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Where are the flavours?

This is a respectful moan....
How come on the Nexus forums all the roms are the same????
Now let me get one thing cleared up first, I am not a developer, I have rudimentary knowledge and know enough to get by and install the mods on this forum. I am not aiming this at any developer in particular and I am very grateful to those who spend their time making these Roms and for that I thank you.
But with other phones Ive owned (Sony, HTC and Samsung) the forums are filled with stock roms + AOSP / AOKP and MIUI, Gaming Roms, Light roms, Various ports of Sense, Xperia or Touchwiz and thats what I like to have on my device.
Here on our forums are 10 shades of the same look, and im just wondering why? how? Just pure coincidence? Is it because a Nexus device is similar to AOSP by default??
I like my nexus and I love the forum are the hard workers making these free roms but I switched to a Nexus phone and tab because they are developers phones, easy to hack etc but it seems that the creativity on this part of XDA is stunted somehow, Phones that are harder to hack like for example the HTC Desire HD have way more variety like the challenge is worth seeing how much stuff can be ported.
This is not a ***** and is not intended to offend those who work hard on this forum but just food for thought, what are your experiences / thoughts?

exekias said:
But with other phones Ive owned (Sony, HTC and Samsung) the forums are filled with stock roms + AOSP / AOKP and MIUI, Gaming Roms, Light roms, Various ports of Sense, Xperia or Touchwiz and thats what I like to have on my device.
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ppl buy the nexus to run AOSP roms

k786 said:
ppl buy the nexus to run AOSP roms
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Well yes and no....
I bought the Nexus because on most of my phones i ended up running AOSP eventually so this was a logical purchase but i also ran MIUI for such a long time and miss it tbh.
It would be fair to say a segment of Nexus owners buy for the AOSP feel but not all and only, most don't know what they are buying / getting into or some don't see the whole picture (like me)
Cheers

These are personal opinions, aint worth nothing. You want ports? Port it yourself.
Miui? With all xda, and all the devices, you people keep asking for bloated ****, senses and what not. Tsk. Rather use B2G or Flyme.
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bk201doesntexist said:
These are personal opinions, aint worth nothing. You want ports? Port it yourself.
Miui? With all xda, and all the devices, you people keep asking for bloated ****, senses and what not. Tsk. Rather use B2G or Flyme.
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Oh yes how witty of you to jump to the exulted persona of some one who uttered "port it yourself"
I was simply asking for opinions and insights as to why their is less variety on a device that is meant to be modified, as such a visitor to a town comments on what is different in this locale.
Lets apply your logic to a food critic who comments that the food was missing X, Y and Z, by your logic the restaurant in question should say
"you want X? Cook it yourself"
You have misread my intentions in your rush to be oh so common internet troll
And some bloatware is nice, i particular enjoy MIUI because it is aesthetically pleasing despite the fact I turn most features off.
Thank you for your input, Im sure all the developers on this forum feel safe from evil doers like me with you to back them up

I have the same feeling m8, but maybe this is happening because 4.2.1 has lots of bugs and maybe dev's are waiting for google to clean the mess.
I also came from S2 where we had lots of aokp based roms, really, those were my favourite, here I can barely see aokp roms or cm10 based ones.
I havn't bought my Nexus ONLY to try aosp rom's like other said, that makes no sense.
I'm really thankful to dev's that "invest" their time in this community, which is great, and I'm not moaning, it's just like an observation.
And btw, personal opinions matter, that's why this community exists and develops itself, cuz we all have an opinion.

I got hardcore flamed for asking the same question...
people around here are touchy as hell lol

The nexus s and nexus one have a million Roms from other devices ported already.. I imagine the galaxy nexus will receive the same treatment in time.
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akira02rex said:
The nexus s and nexus one have a million Roms from other devices ported already.. I imagine the galaxy nexus will receive the same treatment in time.
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That's because the One and the S are nearly identical, hardware wise, to the HTC Desire and Samsung Galaxy S, while the Galaxy Nexus is quite different compared to the S2
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You should have just looked at the forum before buying the phone. Most people on this forum want to run AOSP. That's just how it works. Quit *****ing.

exekias said:
Oh yes how witty of you to jump to the exulted persona of some one who uttered "port it yourself"
I was simply asking for opinions and insights as to why their is less variety on a device that is meant to be modified, as such a visitor to a town comments on what is different in this locale.
Lets apply your logic to a food critic who comments that the food was missing X, Y and Z, by your logic the restaurant in question should say
"you want X? Cook it yourself"
You have misread my intentions in your rush to be oh so common internet troll
And some bloatware is nice, i particular enjoy MIUI because it is aesthetically pleasing despite the fact I turn most features off.
Thank you for your input, Im sure all the developers on this forum feel safe from evil doers like me with you to back them up
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Epic reply XD
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Yes , I have the same thoughts , Gnex seriously has lack of varities of roms , mostly because I think the HW of gnex is quite different wrt the flagship oem phones , it may be really hard to port it to our beloved gnex

exekias said:
This is a respectful moan....
How come on the Nexus forums all the roms are the same????
Now let me get one thing cleared up first, I am not a developer, I have rudimentary knowledge and know enough to get by and install the mods on this forum. I am not aiming this at any developer in particular and I am very grateful to those who spend their time making these Roms and for that I thank you.
But with other phones Ive owned (Sony, HTC and Samsung) the forums are filled with stock roms + AOSP / AOKP and MIUI, Gaming Roms, Light roms, Various ports of Sense, Xperia or Touchwiz and thats what I like to have on my device.
Here on our forums are 10 shades of the same look, and im just wondering why? how? Just pure coincidence? Is it because a Nexus device is similar to AOSP by default??
I like my nexus and I love the forum are the hard workers making these free roms but I switched to a Nexus phone and tab because they are developers phones, easy to hack etc but it seems that the creativity on this part of XDA is stunted somehow, Phones that are harder to hack like for example the HTC Desire HD have way more variety like the challenge is worth seeing how much stuff can be ported.
This is not a ***** and is not intended to offend those who work hard on this forum but just food for thought, what are your experiences / thoughts?
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Although I haven't noticed such a thing before, I found that your observation is true
Personally, I had my S II and started trying ROMs then could not be satisfied on a ROM choice until I could cook my own ROM Afterwards I switched to GNex and I am following the same way of making my own ROM which I really enjoy a lot more on GNex because I am building from source not just modifying Samsung's ROMs as with S II
So basically I feel that this device is intended more for those who like pure experience, but still in the "Themes and Apps" section there are some ports like S III TouchWiz so probably after reaching a good level of such porting then someone may start implementing it in a ROM thus we have a new ROM style? I hope so

sshede said:
You should have just looked at the forum before buying the phone. Most people on this forum want to run AOSP. That's just how it works. Quit *****ing.
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Again, NOT, *****ing, you have misread the intention
sergini said:
And btw, personal opinions matter, that's why this community exists and develops itself, cuz we all have an opinion.
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Thank you
crixley said:
I got hardcore flamed for asking the same question...
people around here are touchy as hell lol
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Again thank you, you are right people are touchy as hell about this subject, really cant imagine why
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Epic reply XD
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deepayanneogi said:
Yes , I have the same thoughts , Gnex seriously has lack of varities of roms , mostly because I think the HW of gnex is quite different wrt the flagship oem phones , it may be really hard to port it to our beloved gnex
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If thats true, than thats a bit of a bummer, and Exactly what this thread was aimed at finding out, if our Gnex is difficult to code for despite being easy to unlock then thats a perfectly acceptable excuse for the lack of variety, thank you
ahmadallica said:
Although I haven't noticed such a thing before, I found that your observation is true
Personally, I had my S II and started trying ROMs then could not be satisfied on a ROM choice until I could cook my own ROM Afterwards I switched to GNex and I am following the same way of making my own ROM which I really enjoy a lot more on GNex because I am building from source not just modifying Samsung's ROMs as with S II
So basically I feel that this device is intended more for those who like pure experience, but still in the "Themes and Apps" section there are some ports like S III TouchWiz so probably after reaching a good level of such porting then someone may start implementing it in a ROM thus we have a new ROM style? I hope so
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I spend a lot of time in the themes and apps section for that sole purpose as well not to mention spending countless $$ of new launchers just to change the feel. Its a vicious cycle, we have been given the ability to change android how we want and for most of is, it isnt good enough we want more.

Honestly, I think the "lack of variety" (quoted because some agree and some don't) is due to the hardware. If the Gnex had the same processor as some of the other flagships, porting wouldn't be as difficult, or same camera sensor, etc. When everything is different, that makes porting just a ton harder than it already is. Just my 2¢, but hey, what do I know? But the OP has a point, there's CM, AOKP, PA, CNA, and stock. Everything else seems to be a derivative of that, with CNA literally being a conglomeration of the first two. To each his own.

jxr94 said:
Honestly, I think the "lack of variety" (quoted because some agree and some don't) is due to the hardware. If the Gnex had the same processor as some of the other flagships, porting wouldn't be as difficult, or same camera sensor, etc. When everything is different, that makes porting just a ton harder than it already is. Just my 2¢, but hey, what do I know? But the OP has a point, there's CM, AOKP, PA, CNA, and stock. Everything else seems to be a derivative of that, with CNA literally being a conglomeration of the first two. To each his own.
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Well having an open source hardware with all the binaries available seems to be the curse of gnex now, with many of the OEM phone dev's tirelessly working to remake binaries for closed hardware , here we have a completely open device with nothing more then AOSP ! .I'm up for asop as the next person in this forum but how about some innovations that can compete with OEM and eventually be part of android by default ?
As my previous poster says there's AOSP which is same as stock minus the gaaps then there is CM made from AOSP which is the most innovative followed/mirrored closely by aokp and then we have there derivatives with PA being a derivative of CM and CNA being the derivative of both CM and AOKP,
we have a ton of rom's but they are all twins of one another with AOSP being the eldest
Just my thoughts :highfive:

jxr94 said:
Honestly, I think the "lack of variety" (quoted because some agree and some don't) is due to the hardware. If the Gnex had the same processor as some of the other flagships, porting wouldn't be as difficult, or same camera sensor, etc. When everything is different, that makes porting just a ton harder than it already is. Just my 2¢, but hey, what do I know? But the OP has a point, there's CM, AOKP, PA, CNA, and stock. Everything else seems to be a derivative of that, with CNA literally being a conglomeration of the first two. To each his own.
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There's a few others that pop up and down (like BAMF) which are their own flavours and dependent sometimes on exactly which GNex you have. I've occasionally seen links to others that the devs seem to have a personal issue with being mentioned on xda -- and so they're out there but I honestly have no idea where else to look.

exekias said:
Lets apply your logic to a food critic who comments that the food was missing X, Y and Z, by your logic the restaurant in question should say
"you want X? Cook it yourself"
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A restaurant is a business, which exists to make money... the logic of your "rebuttal" implies that rom developers do what they do for the purpose of making a profit, which isn't the case.
This forum isn't a diner where you can complain that your eggs aren't cooked right... everything that's here (roms/themes/mods/etc...) is here because someone devoted their free time and efforts.
If the lack of sense/touchwiz/whatever roms is such a big deal... maybe you should have done your research before buying it.

starnostar said:
A restaurant is a business, which exists to make money... the logic of your "rebuttal" implies that rom developers do what they do for the purpose of making a profit, which isn't the case.
This forum isn't a diner where you can complain that your eggs aren't cooked right... everything that's here (roms/themes/mods/etc...) is here because someone devoted their free time and efforts.
If the lack of sense/touchwiz/whatever roms is such a big deal... maybe you should have done your research before buying it.
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I'm pretty sure a lot of restaurants, especially ones good enough to be critiqued, start their business for the pure joy of their trade. So your argument is invalid.
Food is supposed to be prepared the way you order it. Much in the same way that you look thru the "menu" of xda (ROM features) before you order (download/install). If something is wrong with it (GPS borked, camera fc etc) anyone will send it back to the chef. So again, your argument is invalid.

AmericanCon said:
I'm pretty sure a lot of restaurants, especially ones good enough to be critiqued, start their business for the pure joy of their trade. So your argument is invalid.
Food is supposed to be prepared the way you order it. Much in the same way that you look thru the "menu" of xda (ROM features) before you order (download/install). If something is wrong with it (GPS borked, camera fc etc) anyone will send it back to the chef. So again, your argument is invalid.
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You don't "order" a ROM. You either use it or don't. Nobody is forcing you to use a ROM, if you don't like it then you make your own.
Nobody cares if arguments are "invalid" in your opinion. You don't have one bit of authority to back it up.

new official gapps released for 4.2.2 (20130301)

new official gapps released for 4.2.2 (20130301) http://goo.im/gapps

I don't know why this excited me but it did lol. Thanks.

gpgorbosjr said:
I don't know why this excited me but it did lol. Thanks.
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It excited you because we love flashing zips
Flashaholics
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zephiK said:
It excited you because we love flashing zips
Flashaholics
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Lol! I really liked your answer.

where were these pulled from? can u post original link? please!
eh nevermind should read official cm google apps

HTCore said:
Lol! I really liked your answer.
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Oooh what is that? A shiny ZIP?!?!? I MUST FLASH
.. lol, I get in the habit of flashing nightlies even though its 1 day after and it happens to be 2-3 lines of changed code. Whatever, no big deal! I must flash
Personally for me, I don't like ROM/Kernels or apps that don't get updated frequently. It bothers me and makes me think that the dev is lazy. Always on the go

zephiK said:
Personally for me, I don't like ROM/Kernels or apps that don't get updated frequently. It bothers me and makes me think that the dev is lazy. Always on the go
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That's pretty harsh don't you think? There's Roms made by teams that have many people working on same code while others may work alone and not have the time to build a ROM everyday. Not to mention they do this for free in their own spare time. And really post their work to share with others. Not to make others happy. But hey every one has their opinion I guess. Some people feel the devs are here only for them and feel the Dev must build to make them happy.
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maddoggin said:
That's pretty harsh don't you think? There's Roms made by teams that have many people working on same code while others may work alone and not have the time to build a ROM everyday. Not to mention they do this for free in their own spare time. And really post their work to share with others. Not to make others happy. But hey every one has their opinion I guess. Some people feel the devs are here only for them and feel the Dev must build to make them happy.
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Not harsh at all. Its my own personal opinion because I LIKE to flash ROMs. I have ADHD when it comes to ROMs, I always want something new. I dont care if its the same ROM relabeled with a new date, I'll take it. Franco, one of the most popular kernel devs for the N4 pushes out updates to his kernel every other day while maintaining a full-time job. Its doable, I'm not saying every dev needs to follow his footsteps by any means. I just like flashing stuff.
Yes there are roms made by teams such as CM, AOKP, whatever it may be. All of those ROMs are open sourced and OTHER people kang their ROMs to release a unofficial nightly such as fitsnugly' jellybro and unofficial AOKP releases that are being pushed out on a day-to-day basis.
So no, I'm not being harsh at all. If no one tests the "unofficial nightlies" and tell the devs "hey man there are bugs in here, here and here" with logs. Then that would be a problem and would make it harder for them to release a stable build leading to a LONGER release of a stable release for users who dont want to flash something everyday.
My concept of 'lazy devs' still applies. Would you want to buy a app that hasn't been updated for months and months when there is another competing app that does the same thing that updates frequently? A such example is the famous, Falcon Pro twitter client. Why buy something else when this guy updates his apps all the time? It just means he is commited and really cares about his app.
Same thing when it comes to buying a phone. Do you want a phone by Samsung, LG, Motorola where the manufacturer takes AGES to update their phone? Heck no, that's why we got Nexus devices, so we get updates DIRECTLY from Google themselves. Is that being harsh to Samsung/Motorola/LG? No.

Thanks man!
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zephiK said:
Not harsh at all. Its my own personal opinion because I LIKE to flash ROMs. I have ADHD when it comes to ROMs, I always want something new. I dont care if its the same ROM relabeled with a new date, I'll take it. Franco, one of the most popular kernel devs for the N4 pushes out updates to his kernel every other day while maintaining a full-time job. Its doable, I'm not saying every dev needs to follow his footsteps by any means. I just like flashing stuff.
Yes there are roms made by teams such as CM, AOKP, whatever it may be. All of those ROMs are open sourced and OTHER people kang their ROMs to release a unofficial nightly such as fitsnugly' jellybro and unofficial AOKP releases that are being pushed out on a day-to-day basis.
So no, I'm not being harsh at all. If no one tests the "unofficial nightlies" and tell the devs "hey man there are bugs in here, here and here" with logs. Then that would be a problem and would make it harder for them to release a stable build leading to a LONGER release of a stable release for users who dont want to flash something everyday.
My concept of 'lazy devs' still applies. Would you want to buy a app that hasn't been updated for months and months when there is another competing app that does the same thing that updates frequently? A such example is the famous, Falcon Pro twitter client. Why buy something else when this guy updates his apps all the time? It just means he is commited and really cares about his app.
Same thing when it comes to buying a phone. Do you want a phone by Samsung, LG, Motorola where the manufacturer takes AGES to update their phone? Heck no, that's why we got Nexus devices, so we get updates DIRECTLY from Google themselves. Is that being harsh to Samsung/Motorola/LG? No.
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Everyone has their opinion! Just think calling a dev lazy cause he didn't push updates every day so you can satisfy your ocd is retarded. And that's my opinion. There's a difference in pushing updates to improve something and pushing updates every day to satisfy people with ocd. But hey if that's how you feel good for you bud.
By the way you said you think devs that don't update their Roms or apps FREQUENTLY are lazy. Not months and months. So IDF course I'm not going to be happy with an app that hasn't been updated in months and months. But that's not what you said at first.
Just FYI nightly's are not for people to post bugs. They're exactly for people like you who like to flash every day. That's why you can not post about bugs using a nightly
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maddoggin said:
Everyone has their opinion! Just think calling a dev lazy cause he didn't push updates every day so you can satisfy your ocd is retarded. And that's my opinion. There's a difference in pushing updates to improve something and pushing updates every day to satisfy people with ocd. But hey if that's how you feel good for you bud.
By the way you said you think devs that don't update their Roms or apps FREQUENTLY are lazy. Not months and months. So IDF course I'm not going to be happy with an app that hasn't been updated in months and months. But that's not what you said at first.
Just FYI nightly's are not for people to post bugs. They're exactly for people like you who like to flash every day. That's why you can not post about bugs using a nightly
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I'm not calling a dev lazy because he doesn't push updates every day. I'm talking about devs who leave their works unmaintained and their projects abandoned (LauncherPro.... hello? bunch of people paid for his launcher and the project was left abandoned without any word from the developer). I don't care whether it is a ROM/Kernel/something I bought... I want whatever I'm using to be maintained. I used Rasbeanjelly and that ROM wasn't updated every other day. I like unofficial releases (kangs) of ROMs for particularly CyanogenMod & AOKP.
My point still stands, the majority of us on Nexus devices use Nexus devices for the device to be maintained by Google, not Samsung/LG/HTC/Motorola... because WE LIKE UPDATES AND NOT having to wait 6-7 months after a new Android release to be updated by the manufacturer without any promises that our device will get that particular update. So if I call HTC lazy for not updating all their phones to the newest reiteration of Sense you're going to be offended? No. All of us like update and a sense of being in good hands by having updates, same idea applies to operating systems. Windows.... if Microsoft never updated their OS then we'd have a lot of security problems. Antivirus? .... not updated very often with new virus definitions, you're not in good hands.
I'm not OCD. I just like to FLASH stuff and experiment with my phone. If you want to slam punches over the internet then PM me. Don't try and hijack the thread by trying to bash me because I simply like to flash ROMS/KERNELS/mods/themes on XDA. For some of us, it is a hobby. So if you are going to try and harass me over the internet because flashing stuff is a hobby of mines then you're pretty pathetic by starting a fight over the internet.
Nightlies aren't meant to be posted for bugs, but if they're visible, you go ahead and post them. Especially if its a critical bug, at the end of the day. Nightlies are like "free alpha testers" for your work. In most professional cases, you have to pay people to test your work. The more people "alpha / beta testing" your work ---> faster stable release for the people who want something that is stable. People do post bugs, its apart of the whole system of a nightly. You post on their bug reporter. Bug reports are accepted as long as it includes a sort of logcat, kmsg, etc. It varies on what ROM/kernel you're using.
There are different types of flashers on XDA: 1) Ones that want to flash things just for a stable phone 2) Ones that are the hardcore Android enthusiasts that ALWAYS want the newest and latest. 3) Ones who are just here that want to stay on stock and just come here for the conversation as it is a popular Android forum and do very minimal things to their phone (stock ROM, custom kernel). If you're going to bash a different flasher then you have some serious mental problems.
I don't understand why you're punching blows at me because I PERSONALLY like to flash stuff and don't like to stay on ROMS/KERNELS that rarely get updated. Keep at this and using offensive language and I'll end up ignoring you + reporting you on XDA for calling me a "retard." Not cool.

zephiK said:
I'm not calling a dev lazy because he doesn't push updates every day. I'm talking about devs who leave their works unmaintained and their projects abandoned (LauncherPro.... hello? bunch of people paid for his launcher and the project was left abandoned without any word from the developer). I don't care whether it is a ROM/Kernel/something I bought... I want whatever I'm using to be maintained. I used Rasbeanjelly and that ROM wasn't updated every other day. I like unofficial releases (kangs) of ROMs for particularly CyanogenMod & AOKP.
My point still stands, the majority of us on Nexus devices use Nexus devices for the device to be maintained by Google, not Samsung/LG/HTC/Motorola... because WE LIKE UPDATES AND NOT having to wait 6-7 months after a new Android release to be updated by the manufacturer without any promises that our device will get that particular update. So if I call HTC lazy for not updating all their phones to the newest reiteration of Sense you're going to be offended? No. All of us like update and a sense of being in good hands by having updates, same idea applies to operating systems. Windows.... if Microsoft never updated their OS then we'd have a lot of security problems. Antivirus? .... not updated very often with new virus definitions, you're not in good hands.
I'm not OCD. I just like to FLASH stuff and experiment with my phone. If you want to slam punches over the internet then PM me. Don't try and hijack the thread by trying to bash me because I simply like to flash ROMS/KERNELS/mods/themes on XDA. For some of us, it is a hobby. So if you are going to try and harass me over the internet because flashing stuff is a hobby of mines then you're pretty pathetic by starting a fight over the internet.
Nightlies aren't meant to be posted for bugs, but if they're visible, you go ahead and post them. Especially if its a critical bug, at the end of the day. Nightlies are like "free alpha testers" for your work. In most professional cases, you have to pay people to test your work. The more people "alpha / beta testing" your work ---> faster stable release for the people who want something that is stable. People do post bugs, its apart of the whole system of a nightly. You post on their bug reporter. Bug reports are accepted as long as it includes a sort of logcat, kmsg, etc. It varies on what ROM/kernel you're using.
There are different types of flashers on XDA: 1) Ones that want to flash things just for a stable phone 2) Ones that are the hardcore Android enthusiasts that ALWAYS want the newest and latest. 3) Ones who are just here that want to stay on stock and just come here for the conversation as it is a popular Android forum and do very minimal things to their phone (stock ROM, custom kernel). If you're going to bash a different flasher then you have some serious mental problems.
I don't understand why you're punching blows at me because I PERSONALLY like to flash stuff and don't like to stay on ROMS/KERNELS that rarely get updated. Keep at this and using offensive language and I'll end up ignoring you + reporting you on XDA for calling me a "retard." Not cool.
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Oh my bad forgot we can't use the word retarded to describe something someone does or says anymore. My bad! Report me to who ever you want dude. Just like your adamant about having your opinion so am I!
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Is this just for the nexus or can i use this on an aosp rom on a different phone
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hiz99 said:
Is this just for the nexus or can i use this on an aosp rom on a different phone
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It is not just for the nexus.
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Is the camera app has potosphere and panorama features ?

james300 said:
new official gapps released for 4.2.2 (20130301) http://goo.im/gapps
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what makes these "official", as opposed to the 03/04/2013 gapps that im flashing?

Does anyone know if there has been an inverted set of the new gapps released anywhere. I always keep my eye out for them and usually an update to an inverted app project pops up. I just have not seen one that is based on the new gapps yet (and they usually are pretty quick getting them inverted).
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When using the new gapps zip along with cm10 m2 build , I keep getting doubles of photo frame and photo table under daydreams. Is this common for anyone else ? A Google didn't turn up what I was looking for.

CyanogenMod 7 Project

Hi guys,
So for the past week I think I have at least wiped/flashed/Odin'd different ROMs for my new Captivate Glide at least a hundred times. I've finally settled on thegreatergood's LiteROM 0.9.0 and it's working great for me. Not only the one ROM though as I've had to find many workarounds for different things. Flashables/kernels/apks you name it. Although I have no regrets and I'm really proud of how It's like a beast in my pocket, I am quite bothered by one thing which is that the whole thing feels like a big piece of patchwork..
Coming from a HTC Desire Z running CM7 serving me loyally for many years, I miss that officiality (<-- oops, red snakes.. not sure that's a word. Whatever. Shakespeare made his own words too right? ) and the stability that CM7 offered.
I'm a humble man, and possibly carry the apologetic traits of a typical Canadian. Instead of whining and/or nagging some senior developer to hurry up on their ICS or JB development I've decided to build my own CM instead.
However some thought, I think the reason why the JB based experimental CM 10.1s for the Captivate Glide have been a difficult task is because it's probably quite a challenge to build something from something that's not currently very well understood, namely the JB. So I thought, why not just build I nice and stable ROM based off of GB and if it does well it could probably officiated as a CM7 port for the Captivate Glide.
I have a feeling that this is a very plausible task. But I have no way to do it alone.. I have zilch experience in development in anything, had to drop out of my C++ course and have been doing nothing but lurking and leeching since I started modding when I was eleven. All I have is a vision. If someone could point me in the right direction or even form a development team with me, I would be very grateful.
And if this goes well, I will have gained some long overdue experience
So.. Anyone?
P.S. I guess this goes in this forum too. But my phone gets real angry when I flash certain things onto it. The biggest issue currently is that it will freeze and crash (more specifically the screen will freeze and fade into white lines..) whenever I try to use ClockWorkMod Recovery.. I dunno if the crappy 1500 mAh China battery I got ripped off with is an issue but I'm waiting on an OEM one in the mail..

Post in general not development bub...
And were on cm 10. Why fall back?
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I intend to turn it into development thread. But will have a better audience over General?
And maybe see it more like an educational project with a usuable product?
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hey bud im with you ... though I think CM9 would be better as ICS has been released, stable, and has a few more tweaks and features that CM7 didn't ... things like in JB where we have a transparent notification pull down, control over the dpi of certain apps etc.
First thing you should do is readup on the compile cm10 from source thread, get your feet wet there it'll get you all setup with a development system .. Linux is a must so I hope that you're savvy in the *nix shell or things will be antagonistic right off the start ...
I installed the CM9 recently and radio etc didn't work .. Guaranteed there is tonnes of information across all devices on xda-developers and even in general development threads.
Scroll through these forums, find the github links and learn how to setup your own, download the sources for the kernels from the other devs (theres a couple CM10.1s out there).
CM7 .. while I appreciate where you're coming from as i LOVED having CM7 on my Galaxy ACE - everything just worked... battery was great, it looked cool, and it was just off the stock enough to be unique and rub in iPhone users' faces
If I had the time I'd take it on with you .. chart your work and links that have helped you as you go along.

maybe he say that, because the glide have GB and ics officialy and not JB, so, if i understand what he say, maybe a romCM based y that version can be more stable, and less bugs, i was thinking about a CM9 too. But, if i remember correctly, it must create a device tree and a lot of thing, but i am not sure becausea never do a rom.

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maybe he say that, because the glide have GB and ics officialy and not JB, so, if i understand what he say, maybe a romCM based y that version can be more stable, and less bugs, i was thinking about a CM9 too. But, if i remember correctly, it must create a device tree and a lot of thing, but i am not sure becausea never do a rom.
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CM9 is based on ICS 4.0.4 ...
Check this link, not for our device but it offers some good insight to CM7 : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1273718
Another one for CM9 : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=20844007
.... maybe I should just build a linux VM and give it a go in my spare time .... we're so starved for developers for our glides even amateur contributions can't hurt .... in the 2nd link the guy said it took him 11 months to learn how to mod for ICS from no experience so ..... depends on how much you want to commit to it ..

yohan4ws said:
CM9 is based on ICS 4.0.4 ...
Check this link, not for our device but it offers some good insight : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1273718
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yes, i know that, and i was thinking that a cm9 (because there is a ics fully working in the glide) can be a good option, but not sure

This doesn't belong here, please, some mod, move this to General. Thanks

chrisyjwai said:
I intend to turn it into development thread. But will have a better audience over General?
And maybe see it more like an educational project with a usuable product?
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Flagged to be moved to general. If this turns into a dev thread, then you can flag to move it to the dev section, but you only post in the dev sections if you actually have a product or are actively working on something.
Your intentions seem great, but never wait for someone else to help you, otherwise it will never get done. No one is going to carry you through learning this.
There's a ton of guides out there on how to build, port, cherry pick CM commits, etc. etc. Go find them and start learning. Ask SPECIFIC questions if you have any.
No one shows up to college on day 1 and says I'd like to learn how to be a doctor, engineer, pharmacist, journalist, etc. There's a lot of steps in between. So go and get started.

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No one shows up to college on day 1 and says I'd like to learn how to be a doctor, engineer, pharmacist, journalist, etc.
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That doesn't make any sense.... lots of people show up to college and say that, and then enroll in the courses to do that ..

I feel like expressing myself about the roms and kernels available right now for S3;

I've been around since cyanogenmod was just another rom along with bugless beast and whatever the hell was running things on eclair/mytouch and ive compiled kernels hundreds of times back when slackware linux 3.5 was out so i feel like im somewhat of a vet and i appreciate the fact that i have a nice little linux device permanently connected to a broadband connection with so much support in a neat little package.
=)!
and yet i never say anything on XDA i just appreciate... unfortunately i cant post in the development forum because i dont say much ;/
big thumbs up to cyanogenmod for taking their work so seriously and being so persistent, you guys must really love what you do, trust me i know the feeling =]
i just got this phone last week and before i did anything i rooted and installed the latest CM with whatever kernel appealed to me in the dev forum and i thought seriously my screen was defective i had no idea it was just a rom/kernel issue so im glad that over with.
i updated to cm22, and the flicker started again when using the 4/20 KT kernel so ill just stick with cm20 +kt420 for now what an unbelievable combo!
and i'm kinda disappointed in AOKP every time i check the AOKP/task thread somebody is always complaining about something that doesn't work... AOKP used to be my favorite. (when the ICS days began atleast.. i loved it on my gnex)
and by the way... to people having problems flashing between kernels, when you flash a kernel, wipe cache/dalvik, then flash the rom again, then gapps, then the new kernel. kernels include more things than just addition lines of code nowadays and thats the simplest way to work around most issues i see people posting about.
that is all!

Somebody is always complaining about things not working? I see every post in my thread and I don't see what you are talking about. 99.9% of the people that post state how well everything works. The people that complain are the ones that don't follow the simple installation instructions. You might need to read through the thread again. Or just try it out for yourself.

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Somebody is always complaining about things not working? I see every post in my thread and I don't see what you are talking about. 99.9% of the people that post state how well everything works. The people that complain are the ones that don't follow the simple installation instructions. You might need to read through the thread again. Or just try it out for yourself.
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+1, agreed.
Just like the guy who wants to request a theme for a rom, that morphology has for that same rom.
READ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Coming from the skyrocket which had a pretty good community I am really pleased with what developers do in their spare time and decide to share when it comes to this device.
There are so many options it can keep a flash junkie busy for a while.
Keep up the great work devs!
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I love these threads....I have an idea: If you are disappointed why don't you step up and create a solution or make your own ROM? Its easy to complain about FREE work when you don't contribute whatsoever.

True, don't complain about something people spend all their time on and give away for free ...
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We have a large dev community compared to many devices out there. I actually came from a galaxy nexus because I got bored of only aosp roms that were all pretty much the same.

(sorry, had to do it )

Tasks AOKP is by far the best ROM out there for the AT&T S3. I have run it longer than any other ROM i've tried and have had absolutely zero problems with it. I will never use anything else for this phone. Just my personal experience of course.

Whoaa guys ease up on the bashing... OP had only one sentence in his post that was negative everything else was positive.
I think everyone appreciates the hard work and time that devs put into all the different roms/kernels available out there.

Up until the late, I can agree that the 3.4 kernel builds (for any ROM including Tasks) weren't all that great which is why I was using CarbonROM with the BMS kernel (3.0).
But I updated to Tasks 4/23 and everything has been great...super super smooth.

Tasks updated kernel has been smooth. I'm running his newest now, flashes it a few hours ago and love it. The devs for the S3 are wonderful. So many more options than other android phones I've had in the past.
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If I'm reading right, OP is disappointed in AOKP and Task's AOKP.... and hasn't tried them yet?
It takes me longer to download a ROM than it does to flash it, restore data and check out all the main features for functionallity..... and you're calling them out by name without trying them?
Gutsy move.

Nothing wrong with AOKP and we have a fantastic aosp community. They seem to be more active then the original development. If anything I'm disappointed with the lack of touchwiz ROMs. All and all. We have a good community and a good group of developers here. /end thread.
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This thread sucks, I want the last 5 minutes back

3rd party ROMs are always works in progress. its not like anyone here is hiding the fact that these are all "in development". not all ROMs are "for" everyone, but that's the beauty of it, there's a flavor for everyone.
I personally prefer ROMs that are subtle improvements to the stock experience which give me a more enhanced version of what Samsung intended. BUT, there are times I'll think about getting a nexus 4, so I'll run a aosp/cm/aokp based ROM while scratching that itch. or those days I wished I had a note 2, we've got options with multi window and page buddy fully working.
if you don't like it, don't use it... simple as that. I've never critisized a ROM or developer if I don't "get" their work, that just means its not a good fit for me and I move on.

andy55 said:
This thread sucks, I want the last 5 minutes back
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Here you go, enjoy!

Task and his minions bashing another nice guy stating his appreciation...... Big surprise.
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Task and his minions bashing another nice guy stating his appreciation...... Big surprise.
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Huh?
1.) Looks as though you forgot something as simple as reading. Read my post again. If you consider any of that one post as bashing then I think you might need to check the emotional state you are in at the time that you read it.
2.) You're definitely not reading the OP. He pretty much stated that he hasn't even tried the ROM before judging it. That right there speaks for itself.
3.) Please do yourself a favor and grow up a little. Stirring up the pot with the highschool antics doesnt accomplish anything.
4.) Gold stars for you dude. Keep on contributing this wasteful drama here in a development site. That makes a ton of sense.

MIUI V5

WHERE IS MIUI V5 FOR OUR GALAXY S3? INSTEAD OF MAKING 30 MILLION VERSIONS OF AOSP THAT ARE ALL THE SAME IN FEATURES(NOT SAYING IM NOT THANKFUL FOR OUR DEVS) BUT WHERE IS MIUI V5???WHERE ARE THE 30 MILLION VERSIONS WITH EMOJI SUPPORT SMOOTHNESS ENHANCED, KERNEL SUPPORTED MIUI ROMS? It's starting to get overwhelming with the over exceeding amounts of aosp roms but no miui roms. I'm not mad, i'm just fed up with scavenging to look for miui rom for our phone.

You are more than welcome to get one going yourself if you are sick of looking for one. I mean, that is what XDA is about.
It looks as though MIUI isn't something that the devs around here want to deal with at the moment. With it being closed sourced (if I remember correctly) I can see why.

If you want it buy a phone that comes with it on it. Or learn to port it, it is closed source so it isn't easy to port, the devs have better stuff to do then please you.
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All the miui devs go with officially supported devices nowadays. If your into miui you should get one of those. I think they support the nexus line.

cmay said:
WHERE IS MIUI V5 FOR OUR GALAXY S3? INSTEAD OF MAKING 30 MILLION VERSIONS OF AOSP THAT ARE ALL THE SAME IN FEATURES(NOT SAYING IM NOT THANKFUL FOR OUR DEVS) BUT WHERE IS MIUI V5???WHERE ARE THE 30 MILLION VERSIONS WITH EMOJI SUPPORT SMOOTHNESS ENHANCED, KERNEL SUPPORTED MIUI ROMS? It's starting to get overwhelming with the over exceeding amounts of aosp roms but no miui roms. I'm not mad, i'm just fed up with scavenging to look for miui rom for our phone.
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Where exactly did your manners go? Maybe I'm wrong but I read this as if you are a self entitled brat demanding something with no concern for the process it takes to port such a ROM. Port it yourself.
You are not paying for these ROMs man, chill out and talk with a little more decency and respect for our devs, or as suggested above, buy a compatible phone.
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RPelham said:
Where exactly did your manners go? Maybe I'm wrong but I read this as if you are a self entitled brat demanding something with no concern for the process it takes to port such a ROM. Port it yourself.
You are not paying for these ROMs man, chill out and talk with a little more decency and respect for our devs, or as suggested above, buy a compatible phone.
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Clap clap. The flaming hath commenced

MIUI is available via the "Chameleon ROM" for our d2att:
http://www.chameleonos.org/downloads.php
For screenshots, just go to the d2vzw thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2235486
I don't know why they haven't posted it in the AT&T side of the house yet, but they do have the ROM for us.
I was going to post about it, but someone else got cyber-slapped by the mods for starting threads, posting links to other ROM's in other threads.

Ayo thanks the guy who posted the rom link, instead of actually trying to start a flame war that i could careless about. I have respect for our devs like i clearly said in the post. What i said was instead of doing the same thing everybody else is doing why not try something else different and port MIUI. Guy who said I had no manners, sorry if it came across to you as if I don't have any manners or "whinning". But personally I'm just tired of seeing the same 50 same roms clogging the got damn forums. This goes with any phone GS3, NXS, LG NITRO ETC

...wow

cmay said:
Ayo thanks the guy who posted the rom link, instead of actually trying to start a flame war that i could careless about. I have respect for our devs like i clearly said in the post. What i said was instead of doing the same thing everybody else is doing why not try something else different and port MIUI. Guy who said I had no manners, sorry if it came across to you as if I don't have any manners or "whinning". But personally I'm just tired of seeing the same 50 same roms clogging the got damn forums. This goes with any phone GS3, NXS, LG NITRO ETC
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No offence but you clearly don't belong on XDA.
Its not the same thing, each AOSP has its unique features, features that run better or worse depending in the unique kernel also provided that none are the same.
I can see you don't read OP and see which ROM has what. You see "AOSP based" and you flip out.
You want MiUi V5 so bad you should of done a little search and find that there is already the V5 launcher ported to all devices with theme support, there is also various ROMs outside XDA that are MiUi.
Instead of ranting and expressing your personal feelings, which XDA isn't about, you should of searched. But you didn't like most.
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Demanding development isn't tolerated on XDA. Development is a volunteer, perhaps team, perhaps individual effort, and there are other places where MIUI is under development. A google search should find you what you want.