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[Q] HTC Wildfire S - Marvel - Shipped as S-off

Hi to all !
Three weeks ago I got my HTC Wildfire S and it was shipped as S-off.
This is what I get if I access HBOOT mode:
MARVEL PVT SHIP S-OFF RL
HBOOT-0.90.0000
MICROP-0451
RADIO-7.46.35.08
Apr 8 2011, 17:45:10
I tried: Gingerbreak 1.20, SuperOneClick v2.0, Z4Root, Unrevoked 3.32 and all without succes to root my phone.
Is there any other way to do this ?
Can I flash Wildfire S with one custom ROM and then try to get root ?
I read about that this official ROM with Gingerbread 2.3.3 still have kind of NAND security.
Is it possible even if the phone is S-Off ?
Can I downgrade to one other, lower version then 2.3.3 of Android and get the root and then again come back to higher version of Android but then with root access, and if yes could someone explain how to do this please ?
Are the ROM's from old Wildfire (Buzz) compatible with Wildfire S (Marvel) and what is the risk to test them and still not to brick my phone ?
Thanks in advance to all !

Since your phone is S-OFF, you could try flashing the official ROM :http://shipped-roms.com/index.php?category=android&model=Marvel
On that ROM, Gingerbreak is guaranteed to work (I've done it twice already).

Interesting ,
Shipped as S-Off by mistake ?!?

Some devices are shipped S-off.

This thread is ready to be moved to the General section
O.K.
But is there any chance that later, after update, it will not work anymore as it should work or something like that ?
And how can I preserve (BackUp) this original ROM from this device without root access and before flashing, because if something go wrong then I can restore the original ROM ...?
Greetz !
And to Mods I owe an apologie for posting in wrong section, sorry.

Rooted
I did what LeeCHeSSS has me suggested and now is my Wildfire S rooted and with SuperUser. I didn't use custom recovery.
Thanks LeeCHeSSS !
Dankjewel !

Mine also came with S-off. Did anyone rooted this device? Is there any kind of tutorial for this? I am doing this for the first time in my life..

Look in development section.
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imlgl said:
Look in development section.
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I have already looked everywhere . Did you managed to root your phone? Can you please tell me where to look? I can`t find any information how to do this.
Thanks!

Icarus0348 said:
I have already looked everywhere . Did you managed to root your phone? Can you please tell me where to look? I can`t find any information how to do this.
Thanks!
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I found it! I was looking at the wrong thread! I will try the tutorial I found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1195275.

Just did it and it works! Everything is OK! I have root . Thanks and special thanks to Heritz !

Downgrade to older stock ROM
All what you have to do is to download official ROM as LeeCHeSSS has explained up :
"Since your phone is S-OFF, you could try flashing the official ROM :http://shipped-roms.com/index.php?ca...d&model=Marvel
On that ROM, Gingerbreak is guaranteed to work (I've done it twice already). "
After that you have to download Gingerbreak 1.20 and execute it and after that your device will be rooted.
You don't need custom recovery.
Cheers !

Or just flash a custom rom which is pre rooted.
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How to get S-OFF pls ? XTC CLIP DOES NOT WORK ANY MORE
Thanks

XTC clip does work, you are obviously doing it wrong. Or I and everyone else has another phone.

imlgl said:
XTC clip does work, you are obviously doing it wrong. Or I and everyone else has another phone.
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+1 to you
Sent from my magical HTC Wildfire S

my wildfire s is also shipped as s-off
i hacked it by installing cwm recovery and then root script

Q:what is s-off and s-on ?( I am newbee)

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http://bit.ly/TiCg7k

Lol
Skydragon team

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmvCpR45LKA&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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With s-off you Can flash all official rom without worry About CID

How can I know that my device is s-off or s-on?
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nilkar777 said:
How can I know that my device is s-off or s-on?
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http://lmgtfy.com/?q=htc+check+s-off+or+s-on

OK, you could Google it (actually, you would have found it sooner), but a simple explanation is:
There are multiple partitions on the phone for different purposes, like bootloader, system, cache, data... etc.
Without DevUnlock (see below):
S-ON = Security ON which means partitions are protected and cannot be overwritten, it's impossible to brick your phone this way.
You cannot root or ure custom ROMs
S-OFF = Security OFF which means all partitions are unprotected and can be overwritten, it's easy to brick your phone if you do not know what you are doing.
You can do anything
Then there is HTC's DevUnlock, which allows you to overwrite some partitions when the device is S-ON (for development purposes).
You can root or use custom ROMs
With S-OFF, DevUnlock is not needed.
S-OFF for HOX is not available at the moment or you have to be the lucky one who bought the device in a S-OFF state.
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nilkar777 said:
How can I know that my device is s-off or s-on?
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Go into bootloader:
Power down the phone, then start the phone up while keep holding the volume down key. You will enter bootloader mode, there you will find S-ON or S-OFF.

this as protect your phone.
S-ON : you cant flash cook rom or install some app that out of playstore or cracked sofware .
S-OFF : do antthing you want :fingers-crossed:
sorry my english not good

thanhpost said:
this as protect your phone.
S-ON : you cant flash cook rom or install some app that out of playstore or cracked sofware .
S-OFF : do antthing you want :fingers-crossed:
sorry my english not good
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Totally incorrect,
with S-ON you flash cooked rom and install anything you want and even access root privileges. (but needs to unlock the Bootloader first to install custom rom and recovery and rooting)
With S-Off you can downgrade your software or brick your phone, most importantly without voiding your warranty at all.
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thanhpost said:
this as protect your phone.
S-ON : you cant flash cook rom or install some app that out of playstore or cracked sofware .
S-OFF : do antthing you want :fingers-crossed:
sorry my english not good
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I seriously wonder where you got this info ?
How did u get to this answer. Might be a source to some wrong info spreader !

BenPope said:
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bahahaha, that's pretty much it...

(Q) SuperCid

Hello everyone about couple of days I was having issues with my boths cameras on the device I took it to the store I bought it from and they fixed it and also update my device software version after that I noticed that now im S-OFF no S-ON that I was before and my cid also changed from HTC_044 (Asia) to CID-11111111 (supercid I think) and my hboot also changed from 1.36 to 1.39 I also noticed I get faster updates than the cid HTC_044 im know on 3.20.401.1 what does it mean ? that I get every update from every cid or faster updates ? or something else ?
thanks in advance

lucky one yes you can flash roms without needing a pc u dont need to Repack and a lot more ;D

The5alodi said:
lucky one yes you can flash roms without needing a pc u dont need to Repack and a lot more ;D
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my device is also locked and wow that sounds great how I do those things ? :laugh:
and is that good thing or bad thing ?
and I also get OTA faster then other cids?
and if I want to flash new rom I need to open my bootloader again ? because IM S-OFF

yuval111 said:
my device is also locked and wow that sounds great how I do those things ? :laugh:
and is that good thing or bad thing ?
and I also get OTA faster then other cids?
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1 here is a thread that will help u
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2140308
2 a GREAT thing !
3 if i am not wrong the updates come to u first :good:
http://www.pocketables.com/2012/08/...nlocked-bootloader-in-the-htc-evo-series.html
read this^^^
hit the thanks button if i helped:angel:

The5alodi said:
1 here is a thread that will help u
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2140308
2 a GREAT thing !
3 if i am not wrong the updates come to u first :good:
http://www.pocketables.com/2012/08/...nlocked-bootloader-in-the-htc-evo-series.html
read this^^^
hit the thanks button if i helped:angel:
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I still did not understand I want to move to ARHD ROM how do I it without PC ?
I want to move to other rom because stock one is suck my battery drain very fast and it not hardware problem because it has been replaced with OEM battery about couple of day ago
so how I do that ?

Just unlock the bootloader then flash a custom recovery the flash the rom zip.
When u flash the rom u dont need to flash the boot.img
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i see that you are getting help but if you want to keep the superCID do not flash any RUU, that will remove it...

matt95 said:
i see that you are getting help but if you want to keep the superCID do not flash any RUU, that will remove it...
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Nice 2 know but if it's gone can i regain it?
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The5alodi said:
Nice 2 know but if it's gone can i regain it?
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what do you mean by "gone"?

NVM thanks for the info BTW
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matt95 said:
what do you mean by "gone"?
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By "gone" I think he means that he uses a RUU and loses the SuperCID, how will he get it back.
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athulele said:
By "gone" I think he means that he uses a RUU and loses the SuperCID, how will he get it back.
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he can't... once you flash the RUU your phone becomes normal as pretty much every One on this forum... you'll only be able to go back to superCID only if we discover a way to S-OFF

Maybe you can find some more useful info here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2222115

but Im S-OFF so I will lose the supercid if I flash RUU ?
and I read that I dont have too unlock bootloader if I S-OFF is that true ?

Yes you need to unlock the bootloader before you can flash !
Edit :
You won't loose s-off by unlocking the bootloader. The possibility is there when you install a ruu.....

so how exactly S-OFF help me here ? XD
thatp pretty weird before i take my HOX to fix it was on Relock cause I opened the bootloader then relock to use waranty and now it says LOCKED no RELOCKED how is this possible ?
and how the technican made my device S-OFF and SUEPRCID 1111111 ?

That's something i don't know exactly, they probably have HTC certified methods of unlocking and relocking to fix certain locked partitions of the phone.

Mr Hofs said:
That's something i don't know exactly, they probably have HTC certified methods of unlocking and relocking to fix certain locked partitions of the phone.
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ok so if I want to flash rom I dont need to flash the kernel (boot.img) because I S-OFF Right ?
and if I want to go back to stock I can't flash RUU file because it will change my Super Cid to regular Cid ?

yuval111 said:
ok so if I want to flash rom I dont need to flash the kernel (boot.img) because I S-OFF Right ?
and if I want to go back to stock I can't flash RUU file because it will change my Super Cid to regular Cid ?
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Lets assume that to be safe. Always do it via a firmware flash or a stock nandroid backup. Just to be safe.
And yes you don't need to flash the boot.img manually. But as additional info :
A lot of devs have taken out the script that flashes the boot.img when installing the rom. So with a lot of roms you still have to flash the boot.img with fastboot commands.

and one more question super cid devices (non rooted or bootloader unlocked) get OTA updates faster then other cids ?
and if I go back to stock via RUU it wont change my device to S-ON right ? and there's anyway to bring the Super cid back ?

[Q] about firewater s-off and temp root

well guys i search about it but didnt know what it is
im coming from samsung device and i dont know what does (firewater s-off ) means
so can you please tell what is it? and is it needed to make the htc one m8 rooted and flash roms?
and what is the temproot?
thanks in advance

Galaxy_Guy said:
well guys i search about it but didnt know what it is
im coming from samsung device and i dont know what does (firewater s-off ) means
so can you please tell what is it? and is it needed to make the htc one m8 rooted and flash roms?
and what is the temproot?
thanks in advance
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If you don't know what S-OFF is, then you don't need it...all you need is to unlock the bootloader with HTCDev.com and then flash a custom recovery and then flash a custom ROM (or just root your existing one)
Also, read this...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2711073

EddyOS said:
If you don't know what S-OFF is, then you don't need it...all you need is to unlock the bootloader with HTCDev.com and then flash a custom recovery and then flash a custom ROM (or just root your existing one)
Also, read this...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2711073
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no please i want to know about all the stuff below and i read this thread im not a noob dude

EddyOS said:
If you don't know what S-OFF is, then you don't need it...all you need is to unlock the bootloader with HTCDev.com and then flash a custom recovery and then flash a custom ROM (or just root your existing one)
Also, read this...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2711073
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please answer me

Galaxy_Guy said:
please answer me
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You said you're not a n00b mate, so I stopped looking...read the S-OFF guide in General on how to attempt to S-OFF your device but you don't need it if you just wanna flash a new ROM

Soff unlocks the whole system to be written or something.
Some mods require this.
You can try temproot before unlocking your device with htcdev.
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Shebee said:
You can try temproot before unlocking your device with htcdev.
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Only if you have a Verizon M8...never heard of it work on any other M8 to date

Shebee said:
Soff unlocks the whole system to be written or something.
Some mods require this.
You can try temproot before unlocking your device with htcdev.
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Can you give an example which mods, when you unlock the bootloader and flash a custom recovery you can push superuser to gain root on your stock rom. Or install any rom you like including mods......they mostly just need root.

S off will allow you to change cid (carrier I'd) of phone, you can make it super cid which will allow you to flash a y firmware you like for any m8 varient.
You will also be able to flash the adsp hk update for hk sound to work fully on models that the normal mod won't work
It will also allow you to switch between GPE and sense so long as you have a ruu image for each
It will also allow you to totally brick your phone if you don't understand what your doing
Better stick to HTC dev unlock as Rom and kernals can be flashed no problem , if it's a sense device GPE, cyan, asop and sense roms should work fine
Only issue you might get is Verizon or other USA specific
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HTC Desire EYE S-OFF?

Anyone have s-off or OPFHDIAG.nbh file?
thanks!!

onaikel said:
Anyone have s-off or OPFHDIAG.nbh file?
thanks!!
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no s-off yet but i was told that sunshine 3.0 should be able to give us s-off when it is released in early january.

S-OFF
htc desire EYE s-off with htc java card

I used the htc boot unloader my phone now says unlocked s is still on and my phone isnt rooted what did i do wrong what can i do now...sorry first time doin this
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irishmarine0311 said:
I used the htc boot unloader my phone now says unlocked s is still on and my phone isnt rooted what did i do wrong what can i do now...sorry first time doin this
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you didnt do anything wrong. right now theres no public way to get s-off. the guy above bought a very expensive java card to achieve s-off. a app called sunshine should be able to get us s-off in January with its version 3.0

Oh ok thanks
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ccb101 said:
you didnt do anything wrong. right now theres no public way to get s-off. the guy above bought a very expensive java card to achieve s-off. a app called sunshine should be able to get us s-off in January with its version 3.0
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This is my first HTC phone, so I'm just wondering, what is S-OFF or S-ON? And why is it in place?

sidle said:
This is my first HTC phone, so I'm just wondering, what is S-OFF or S-ON? And why is it in place?
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its a extra security measure HTC phones have. the biggest issue with s-on is flashing kernels. with s-on you have to manually flash them using fastboot commands. With s-off you can do other things like flash firmware from other regions or run RRU's from other countrys as well, it would help with sim unlock and changing your model id.

ccb101 said:
its a extra security measure HTC phones have. the biggest issue with s-on is flashing kernels. with s-on you have to manually flash them using fastboot commands. With s-off you can do other things like flash firmware from other regions or run RRU's from other countrys as well, it would help with sim unlock and changing your model id.
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Alright, thanks for your answer

onaikel said:
htc desire EYE s-off with htc java card
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Hi
Just got a java card. I'm wondering if you can help me with the diag file, or which one to use.
Thanks a million

I just used Sunshine 3.0.6 and successfully S-Offed my Desire Eye.

How did you get S-off? When I run sunshine I get this error: Sunshine cannot function on devices which are set to debuggable ramdisk/kernel (boot.img). please help!

sammor20 said:
How did you get S-off? When I run sunshine I get this error: Sunshine cannot function on devices which are set to debuggable ramdisk/kernel (boot.img). please help!
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I had to flash the stock boot.img since I was using a custom kernel to disable write protection.

How is you software status still as Official please tell

[email protected] said:
How is you software status still as Official please tell
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mmcblk0p6

s6511435 said:
mmcblk0p6
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How do I edit the mmcblk06 is it in Emmc?

I have sunshine S-Off my desire eye, easy and quick!

We have to pay like $25 for that right?
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[email protected] said:
We have to pay like $25 for that right?
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Yes.

sunshine should be installed on phone?