[Q] about firewater s-off and temp root - One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

well guys i search about it but didnt know what it is
im coming from samsung device and i dont know what does (firewater s-off ) means
so can you please tell what is it? and is it needed to make the htc one m8 rooted and flash roms?
and what is the temproot?
thanks in advance

Galaxy_Guy said:
well guys i search about it but didnt know what it is
im coming from samsung device and i dont know what does (firewater s-off ) means
so can you please tell what is it? and is it needed to make the htc one m8 rooted and flash roms?
and what is the temproot?
thanks in advance
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If you don't know what S-OFF is, then you don't need it...all you need is to unlock the bootloader with HTCDev.com and then flash a custom recovery and then flash a custom ROM (or just root your existing one)
Also, read this...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2711073

EddyOS said:
If you don't know what S-OFF is, then you don't need it...all you need is to unlock the bootloader with HTCDev.com and then flash a custom recovery and then flash a custom ROM (or just root your existing one)
Also, read this...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2711073
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no please i want to know about all the stuff below and i read this thread im not a noob dude

EddyOS said:
If you don't know what S-OFF is, then you don't need it...all you need is to unlock the bootloader with HTCDev.com and then flash a custom recovery and then flash a custom ROM (or just root your existing one)
Also, read this...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2711073
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please answer me

Galaxy_Guy said:
please answer me
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You said you're not a n00b mate, so I stopped looking...read the S-OFF guide in General on how to attempt to S-OFF your device but you don't need it if you just wanna flash a new ROM

Soff unlocks the whole system to be written or something.
Some mods require this.
You can try temproot before unlocking your device with htcdev.
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Shebee said:
You can try temproot before unlocking your device with htcdev.
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Only if you have a Verizon M8...never heard of it work on any other M8 to date

Shebee said:
Soff unlocks the whole system to be written or something.
Some mods require this.
You can try temproot before unlocking your device with htcdev.
Sent from my HTC One_M8 using XDA Free mobile app
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Can you give an example which mods, when you unlock the bootloader and flash a custom recovery you can push superuser to gain root on your stock rom. Or install any rom you like including mods......they mostly just need root.

S off will allow you to change cid (carrier I'd) of phone, you can make it super cid which will allow you to flash a y firmware you like for any m8 varient.
You will also be able to flash the adsp hk update for hk sound to work fully on models that the normal mod won't work
It will also allow you to switch between GPE and sense so long as you have a ruu image for each
It will also allow you to totally brick your phone if you don't understand what your doing
Better stick to HTC dev unlock as Rom and kernals can be flashed no problem , if it's a sense device GPE, cyan, asop and sense roms should work fine
Only issue you might get is Verizon or other USA specific
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[Q] Rooting international HTC One X with HTC Patch

Hi,
I've been trying to root my HOX using oneclick with no success, I keep getting a "permission denied" message. I've tried to find an answer on XDA and via google but couldn't find one.
All I want to do is root my device in order to restore apps data from my old Desire using Titanium Backup, I don't want to unlock the bootloader or flash a new recovery (I want to still be able to get OTA updates as JB is about to be release later this month).
Is there a way to do so ?
I also tried the method from XDA (HTC_QuickRoot_1.1.13_Release) but I get a message stating that my device is patched (my software version is 2.18.751.7 if thats help).
Thanks a lot guys !
Rotem_46 said:
Hi,
I've been trying to root my HOX using oneclick with no success, I keep getting a "permission denied" message. I've tried to find an answer on XDA and via google but couldn't find one.
All I want to do is root my device in order to restore apps data from my old Desire using Titanium Backup, I don't want to unlock the bootloader or flash a new recovery (I want to still be able to get OTA updates as JB is about to be release later this month).
Is there a way to do so ?
I also tried the method from XDA (HTC_QuickRoot_1.1.13_Release) but I get a message stating that my device is patched (my software version is 2.18.751.7 if thats help).
Thanks a lot guys !
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Those One Click Tools are going through HTCDev then unlock bootloader too, at least for HOX since we have no other method to gain permenant root.
You can still receving OTA from HTC if you stayed on stock ROM. However, you will need stock recovery and stock-like ROM(not altering too much likes uninstalling certains system app.. blah~ blah~ blah~) to properly flash the OTA.
I know that there is a way to root the HOX without unlocking the bootloader or flashing a different recovery, the problem I have is that my device seems to have some kind of a patch thats preventing the root exploit to work.
Are you saying I can't root my device unless I'll use HTCDev? Because I don't think its true...
I don't want to mess with custom ROMs right now as my phone is still under warranty and I would hate it to be void, I know I can go back (ie unroot and flash stock recovery) I just don't want to mess with it right now.
I use to do it with my good old Desire (flashed it like a 1000 times) and right now I want to use the stock ROM.
Does anyone has an idea of how I can get simple root permission?
You cannot root with a locked bootloader on the HOX. Simply not possible. But feel free to waste your time trying.
Your in the wrong forum, this is for the tegra3 one x. We can't root without unlocking via htcdev.
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I have the same phone. There is no recovery image that i can find. Does anyone one know what would be the most similar? I want to still get the OTA jellybean update!
http:// http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1927206
I had to get the unlock from htcdev.
Michealtbh said:
You cannot root with a locked bootloader on the HOX. Simply not possible. But feel free to waste your time trying.
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Well I won't be waisting my time, If you're saying its not possible then I guess its not.
Do I have to use the HTCDev first to unlock it? I'm sure HTC keeps a list of devices that has been unlocked using their website. Then if one of them devices will be sent back for repairs they will say the warranty has been void....
Is it possible to unlock the bootloader and root the phone without using HTCDev, then lock it again and keep the root permissions?
bogfather said:
Your in the wrong forum, this is for the tegra3 one x. We can't root without unlocking via htcdev.
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Mine is the Tegra3 One X...I read that there is a oneclick tool to root any HTC and I tried it on mine, I get a message that the phone has been patched so the root process failed. Why does it matter if the its the Tegra3 CPU or Snapdragon S4 ? I mean root wise?
Thanks guys !
Rotem_46 said:
Well I won't be waisting my time, If you're saying its not possible then I guess its not.
Do I have to use the HTCDev first to unlock it? I'm sure HTC keeps a list of devices that has been unlocked using their website. Then if one of them devices will be sent back for repairs they will say the warranty has been void....
Is it possible to unlock the bootloader and root the phone without using HTCDev, then lock it again and keep the root permissions?
Mine is the Tegra3 One X...I read that there is a oneclick tool to root any HTC and I tried it on mine, I get a message that the phone has been patched so the root process failed. Why does it matter if the its the Tegra3 CPU or Snapdragon S4 ? I mean root wise?
Thanks guys !
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Currently you have to unlock bootloader to root. Easy through htc.dev
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Bigleg75 said:
Currently you have to unlock bootloader to root. Easy through htc.dev
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Look, I know I can use HTCDev but I don't want to do it through their site.
Is there a different method to unlock and root an HOX?
Thanks.
Rotem_46 said:
Look, I know I can use HTCDev but I don't want to do it through their site.
Is there a different method to unlock and root an HOX?
Thanks.
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NO!
do u dare to try dis LOL, it say nearlly can root all ics/Jb device
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1886460

[Q] How can i unlock my WFS?

Hello.
I readed some forum, some topic but i'm in a hell....
My WFS:
HBOOT: 1.09.0099
Android vers: 2.3.5
Software vers: 2.26.401.3
Build number: 2.26.401.3 CL362953 relase-keys
I want my S-ON mobile to S-OFF.
Please help me.
Thank you.
If you want S-OFF then use XTC-Clip
If you want to unlock your bootloader,go to HTCDev.com
Man, i tried this. But it doesn't work. I give some error.. (190,140). I tried zergRush i give 'perminission denied'.
If You have GSM phone, then forget it (unless You have XTC Clip). Official support guy told me they don't provide S-OFF solution because technitians don't want for us to lose warranty. He also said that all solutions on S-OFF can be found on this forum. So good luck.
Sent from my HTC Wildfire S A510e
willand said:
If You have GSM phone, then forget it (unless You have XTC Clip). Official support guy told me they don't provide S-OFF solution because technitians don't want for us to lose warranty. He also said that all solutions on S-OFF can be found on this forum. So good luck.
Sent from my HTC Wildfire S A510e
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Agreed.
Moerover better to unlock bootloader then to buy xtc-clip to gain s-off
And with unlocked bootloader u can flash custom roms then y to go for s-off
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One more...
I want unlock my bootloader. But the forum theards doesn't work.
My mobile: T-Mobile Hungary..
I tried with RUU EUROPE. I have 190 error. I tried zergRush... i give perminission denied..
Help.
Speederes said:
One more...
I want unlock my bootloader. But the forum theards doesn't work.
My mobile: T-Mobile Hungary..
I tried with RUU EUROPE. I have 190 error. I tried zergRush... i give perminission denied..
Help.
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Skip RUU section and proceed to step 1 n follow the instructions, u vl hav unlocked bootloader
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Thanks. But..
Now i See "Unlocked" But S-ON...
How can i get S-OFF? I don't want pay for XTP-CLIP.
I tried rooting but i give read only file system. :-/
You can only get S-OFF by XTC-Clip
And i can root or setup other rom without s-off?
Yes,you can root without S-OFF.i have S-ON and i flashed a lot of ROM's on my phone.
Press thanks if i helped you !
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an how to? Can you help me?
Speederes said:
an how to? Can you help me?
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How to root?
Have you unlocked your bootloader?
How can i unlock my WFS?
Speederes said:
an how to? Can you help me?
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To unlock your bootloader you need to visit HTCDEV.com register (its free), and then follow the instructions to unlocking you boot loader by choosing the HTC Wildfire S. it is very siple.
If you need to get the files that it will suggest at some point you can find them on this post.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1474956
Also this is a post with a similar question that was replied to... maybe you can sind some info in there.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1946346
Speederes said:
And i can root or setup other rom without s-off?
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Yaa u can.... search a bit for recovery and roms there are alot of threads on it
Enjoy
Sent from my Android lappy
Speederes said:
And i can root or setup other rom without s-off?
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Not to my knowledge. I have been trying to install custom ROM with S-ON for 6 months now. I'm just here checking to see if there were any new developements an noticed your post.
with an unlocked boot loader it is possible to root de wildfire S, but I have not been able to install custom ROM. The main reason is that it is not possible to access keyareas in de operating system. So far I know without S-off you can only flash a new boot.img and a new system img.
It is best to unlock the bootloader and flash a pre-rooted system.img.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1664533
At least this way you can use Link2SD so that the 150Mb internal storage in no longer an issue and you have root access so al other fun rooted phone stuff is available to you. You just cannot flash custom roms unfotunately...

(Q) SuperCid

Hello everyone about couple of days I was having issues with my boths cameras on the device I took it to the store I bought it from and they fixed it and also update my device software version after that I noticed that now im S-OFF no S-ON that I was before and my cid also changed from HTC_044 (Asia) to CID-11111111 (supercid I think) and my hboot also changed from 1.36 to 1.39 I also noticed I get faster updates than the cid HTC_044 im know on 3.20.401.1 what does it mean ? that I get every update from every cid or faster updates ? or something else ?
thanks in advance
lucky one yes you can flash roms without needing a pc u dont need to Repack and a lot more ;D
The5alodi said:
lucky one yes you can flash roms without needing a pc u dont need to Repack and a lot more ;D
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my device is also locked and wow that sounds great how I do those things ? :laugh:
and is that good thing or bad thing ?
and I also get OTA faster then other cids?
and if I want to flash new rom I need to open my bootloader again ? because IM S-OFF
yuval111 said:
my device is also locked and wow that sounds great how I do those things ? :laugh:
and is that good thing or bad thing ?
and I also get OTA faster then other cids?
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1 here is a thread that will help u
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2140308
2 a GREAT thing !
3 if i am not wrong the updates come to u first :good:
http://www.pocketables.com/2012/08/...nlocked-bootloader-in-the-htc-evo-series.html
read this^^^
hit the thanks button if i helped:angel:
The5alodi said:
1 here is a thread that will help u
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2140308
2 a GREAT thing !
3 if i am not wrong the updates come to u first :good:
http://www.pocketables.com/2012/08/...nlocked-bootloader-in-the-htc-evo-series.html
read this^^^
hit the thanks button if i helped:angel:
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I still did not understand I want to move to ARHD ROM how do I it without PC ?
I want to move to other rom because stock one is suck my battery drain very fast and it not hardware problem because it has been replaced with OEM battery about couple of day ago
so how I do that ?
Just unlock the bootloader then flash a custom recovery the flash the rom zip.
When u flash the rom u dont need to flash the boot.img
Sent from my HTC One X using xda app-developers app
i see that you are getting help but if you want to keep the superCID do not flash any RUU, that will remove it...
matt95 said:
i see that you are getting help but if you want to keep the superCID do not flash any RUU, that will remove it...
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Nice 2 know but if it's gone can i regain it?
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The5alodi said:
Nice 2 know but if it's gone can i regain it?
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what do you mean by "gone"?
NVM thanks for the info BTW
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matt95 said:
what do you mean by "gone"?
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By "gone" I think he means that he uses a RUU and loses the SuperCID, how will he get it back.
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athulele said:
By "gone" I think he means that he uses a RUU and loses the SuperCID, how will he get it back.
Sent from my HTC One X using xda app-developers app
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he can't... once you flash the RUU your phone becomes normal as pretty much every One on this forum... you'll only be able to go back to superCID only if we discover a way to S-OFF
Maybe you can find some more useful info here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2222115
but Im S-OFF so I will lose the supercid if I flash RUU ?
and I read that I dont have too unlock bootloader if I S-OFF is that true ?
Yes you need to unlock the bootloader before you can flash !
Edit :
You won't loose s-off by unlocking the bootloader. The possibility is there when you install a ruu.....
so how exactly S-OFF help me here ? XD
thatp pretty weird before i take my HOX to fix it was on Relock cause I opened the bootloader then relock to use waranty and now it says LOCKED no RELOCKED how is this possible ?
and how the technican made my device S-OFF and SUEPRCID 1111111 ?
That's something i don't know exactly, they probably have HTC certified methods of unlocking and relocking to fix certain locked partitions of the phone.
Mr Hofs said:
That's something i don't know exactly, they probably have HTC certified methods of unlocking and relocking to fix certain locked partitions of the phone.
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ok so if I want to flash rom I dont need to flash the kernel (boot.img) because I S-OFF Right ?
and if I want to go back to stock I can't flash RUU file because it will change my Super Cid to regular Cid ?
yuval111 said:
ok so if I want to flash rom I dont need to flash the kernel (boot.img) because I S-OFF Right ?
and if I want to go back to stock I can't flash RUU file because it will change my Super Cid to regular Cid ?
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Lets assume that to be safe. Always do it via a firmware flash or a stock nandroid backup. Just to be safe.
And yes you don't need to flash the boot.img manually. But as additional info :
A lot of devs have taken out the script that flashes the boot.img when installing the rom. So with a lot of roms you still have to flash the boot.img with fastboot commands.
and one more question super cid devices (non rooted or bootloader unlocked) get OTA updates faster then other cids ?
and if I go back to stock via RUU it wont change my device to S-ON right ? and there's anyway to bring the Super cid back ?

S-off Benefits.

I'm going to start with an apology if my searching skills aren't that great,but I've searched all around and find nothing.. ok..question...
Can someone name some benefits a user can gain by getting s-off on this device...? I thought unlocked and rooted was enough to flash roms....now I have to get s-off??
Thanks in advance...
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Slicktune said:
I'm going to start with an apology if my searching skills aren't that great,but I've searched all around and find nothing.. ok..question...
Can someone name some benefits a user can gain by getting s-off on this device...? I thought unlocked and rooted was enough to flash roms....now I have to get s-off??
Thanks in advance...
Sent from my HTC One_M8 using Tapatalk
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Edit: You don't need S-Off to flash custom roms/kernels/recoveriers - it's for people that want to tinker at a deeper level.
From what I remember from my DNA days, S-Off removes the security flag on HTC devices and allows you to flash a different h-boot, change the CID - which allows you to flash firmware from different carriers (BE CAREFUL DOING THIS), and remove the "unlocked/tampered" text from the fastboot menu.
Also, check out the 2nd half of the article in this link: http://www.pocketables.com/2013/04/why-you-want-root-and-s-off-on-htc-devices.html
Again, be careful with S-Off. If you ever go back to S-On and have the wrong h-boot or firmware installed I believe it will brick the device.
mcdsmaster8824 said:
Edit: You don't need S-Off to flash custom roms/kernels/recoveriers - it's for people that want to tinker at a deeper level.
From what I remember from my DNA days, S-Off removes the security flag on HTC devices and allows you to flash a different h-boot, change the CID - which allows you to flash firmware from different carriers (BE CAREFUL DOING THIS), and remove the "unlocked/tampered" text from the fastboot menu.
Also, check out the 2nd half of the article in this link: http://www.pocketables.com/2013/04/why-you-want-root-and-s-off-on-htc-devices.html
Again, be careful with S-Off. If you ever go back to S-On and have the wrong h-boot or firmware installed I believe it will brick the device.
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Thanks bro, I have s-on/unlocked but it doesn't say anything about being "tampered" I did notice around the threads that everyone that wanted to convert to gpe or flash a GPE Rom needs s-off?
Thanks in advance
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Slicktune said:
Thanks bro, I have s-on/unlocked but it doesn't say anything about being "tampered" I did notice around the threads that everyone that wanted to convert to gpe or flash a GPE Rom needs s-off?
Thanks in advance
Sent from my HTC One_M8 using Tapatalk
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Well that's new to me. If the developer of the ROM says to have your phone S-OFF then definitely go with their instructions. I haven't seen the S-OFF method on the forums here, but I'm sure a google search will get you to the needed file(s) and instructions. If I remember correctly, actually achieving S-OFF wasn't too complicated/dangerous as long as you're comfortable using adb/fastboot - it's just what you can do to your phone once you've achieved S-OFF that can be dangerous.
Slicktune said:
Thanks bro, I have s-on/unlocked but it doesn't say anything about being "tampered" I did notice around the threads that everyone that wanted to convert to gpe or flash a GPE Rom needs s-off?
Thanks in advance
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If you fully convert to gpe I think you need s-off because you use the ruu. But with an unlocked bootloader, you can just flash the gpe ROM instead of fully converting the phone.
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otariq said:
If you fully convert to gpe I think you need s-off because you use the ruu. But with an unlocked bootloader, you can just flash the gpe ROM instead of fully converting the phone.
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I'm sorry, but I have to ask...what's the benefit of a full gpe conversion? Does it run faster...Will it update if the HTC gpe edition gets updated and will I have trouble with the T-Mobile bands? Thank you so much
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That's exactly why most people do the ruu conversion, when there's an ota they will get the update too as long as you keep the stock Google recovery. Although on my m7 I was able to get ota with twrp. On m7 I kept Google radio and had no problems with T-Mobile. I think it should be the same for m8 since on the play store it says the phone supports T-Mobile. Just go check out the thread for the conversion if you need help.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2708589
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Htc noob basics rundown

Hi guys, so as it states im new to htc, ive only in the past 2 years been an android user and i owned sammy devices, so the change is a little overwhelming, s-off hboot, and other things that seem to be important to flashing are a mystery to me so any help would be awesome, and sorry if there was already a thread explaining all this
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LiLPurP said:
Hi guys, so as it states im new to htc, ive only in the past 2 years been an android user and i owned sammy devices, so the change is a little overwhelming, s-off hboot, and other things that seem to be important to flashing are a mystery to me so any help would be awesome, and sorry if there was already a thread explaining all this
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This should give u some pointers
If firewater does not work for your device go to the sunshine thread here
Should be all u need to unlock, root and s off and install custom recovery, then u can install roms etc.
Also any help requests belong in q&A section
shout me if u need help
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I have asked mods to move into Q&A mate
Lots of the basic terms explained well here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=52484527
Don't feel too overwhelmed, every manufacturer has their own idiosyncrasies. There is always a learning curve if you switch or buy a new brand device. Just stick with it, be patient and read up.
Thanks, im getting a little confused but its geting clear for me, heres a question, when i press and hold my home button, a pie type menu comes up, but only has google in it, ive looked everywhere, and i cant find how to set up shortcuts for this, anyone have any clues?
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LiLPurP said:
Thanks, im getting a little confused but its geting clear for me, heres a question, when i press and hold my home button, a pie type menu comes up, but only has google in it, ive looked everywhere, and i cant find how to set up shortcuts for this, anyone have any clues?
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That is google now. You cannot change it on sense roms to my knowledge. GPE you can used xposed and gravity box to create new "ring" shortcuts.
Thanks, ive actually been looking into the GPE ROM but not sure if i would need S-Off to use it, (S-Off is still kinda confusing) ive tried to use firewater but got a whelp error saying my device wouldnt work, and from my understanding, SunShine is the only thing that can give me S-Off, i will be doing this as soon as i have the 25 bucks to spend lol, id rather have it and not need it rather than need it and not have it
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You can flash gpe Rom. Just don't try ruu convert guide. Get soff while you can. You can do all sorts of stuff plus it lets you easily recover from most bricks.
Btw. Don't use toolkits. Learn adb and fastboot commands. They are easy and will make your life a lot easier.
an0ther said:
You can flash gpe Rom. Just don't try ruu convert guide. Get soff while you can. You can do all sorts of stuff plus it lets you easily recover from most bricks.
Btw. Don't use toolkits. Learn adb and fastboot commands. They are easy and will make your life a lot easier.
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I have small amounts of knowledge with adb, i unlocked using htcdev so adb was required, however not sure what you mean by toolkits, you mean like firewater or sunshine? And i will s off asap, but if i wait to long will i lose the privilege? And i haven't read about this ruu conveet guide, what is that if i may ask? And thanks for all the help guys
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LiLPurP said:
I have small amounts of knowledge with adb, i unlocked using htcdev so adb was required, however not sure what you mean by toolkits, you mean like firewater or sunshine? And i will s off asap, but if i wait to long will i lose the privilege? And i haven't read about this ruu conveet guide, what is that if i may ask? And thanks for all the help guys
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No. Firewater and sunshine are tools for soff. Those are fine. Toolkits flash recoveries, unlock bootlader etc... It's good you did it the manual way. And yes HTC will patch soff method in next update. Ruu are restore files kinda like tar and Odin on your Samsung devices. You can only run one that is made for your device... Unless you have soff. You can truly convert your m8 into any m8 variant. No advantages over just flashing a Rom. But with soff you can upgrade and downgrade firmware and radios. You can remove tampered and red hboot text. You can manualy perform updates with no need to lock bootlader. It gives you full flexibility of the phone.
Once you have soff they can't ever take it away.
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No. Firewater and sunshine are tools for soff. Those are fine. Toolkits flash recoveries, unlock bootlader etc... It's good you did it the manual way. And yes HTC will patch soff method in next update. Ruu are restore files kinda like tar and Odin on your Samsung devices. You can only run one that is made for your device... Unless you have soff. You can truly convert your m8 into any m8 variant. No advantages over just flashing a Rom. But with soff you can upgrade and downgrade firmware and radios. You can remove tampered and red hboot text. You can manualy perform updates with no need to lock bootlader. It gives you full flexibility of the phone.
Once you have soff they can't ever take it away.
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Is there anyway i can block that update from htc? And i have downloaded the liquidsmooth rom 4.4.4 and gapps 4.4.4, now am i ok to flash this?
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LiLPurP said:
Is there anyway i can block that update from htc? And i have downloaded the liquidsmooth rom 4.4.4 and gapps 4.4.4, now am i ok to flash this?
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As long as your running a Rom no update will be applied. Backup stock before flashing anything! So many people don't do this for some reason. You can flash it if you want. Aosp is still a little buggy on the m8. I would recommend gpe over aosp for now but it's up to you. There are some good sense roms too. I wouldn't flash any aosp without soff. Just in case. I've had aosp soft brick when I try to flash another Rom after it before.
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As long as your running a Rom no update will be applied. Backup stock before flashing anything! So many people don't do this for some reason. You can flash it if you want. Aosp is still a little buggy on the m8. I would recommend gpe over aosp for now but it's up to you. There are some good sense roms too. I wouldn't flash any aosp without soff. Just in case. I've had aosp soft brick when I try to flash another Rom after it before.
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Awesome thanks for the advice, guess that download wont be used for now, do you have any recommendations on roms? I have the att version if that makes a difference. And yea i made a backup in TWRP as soon as i unlocked the bootloader. I want to start slow and learn as i go, i will most likely pay the 25 for the sunshine app to s-off tomorrow, i got the phone about 3 days ago so i want it custom while i have the chance lol seems android is starting to be less open source every time i get a new phone
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No. Firewater and sunshine are tools for soff. Those are fine. Toolkits flash recoveries, unlock bootlader etc... It's good you did it the manual way. And yes HTC will patch soff method in next update. Ruu are restore files kinda like tar and Odin on your Samsung devices. You can only run one that is made for your device... Unless you have soff. You can truly convert your m8 into any m8 variant. No advantages over just flashing a Rom. But with soff you can upgrade and downgrade firmware and radios. You can remove tampered and red hboot text. You can manualy perform updates with no need to lock bootlader. It gives you full flexibility of the phone.
Once you have soff they can't ever take it away.
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If you paid for sunshine it will always work not like Firewater...even if it's patched or not
One-M8-Master said:
If you paid for sunshine it will always work not like Firewater...even if it's patched or not
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Well i have tried firewater, and it said no amount of flashing, ruu, ect will make it work, so i assume that means SunShine is my only option. And has anyone used the Android Revolution HD ROM, ive been looking and it has awesome features
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LiLPurP said:
Well i have tried firewater, and it said no amount of flashing, ruu, ect will make it work, so i assume that means SunShine is my only option. And has anyone used the Android Revolution HD ROM, ive been looking and it has awesome features
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ARHD is as close to stock as you can find. But this is a matter of preference. There are many ROMs to choose from and only after you test them, you can decide what suits you best.
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ARHD is as close to stock as you can find. But this is a matter of preference. There are many ROMs to choose from and only after you test them, you can decide what suits you best.
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Yea near stock is good for me as im used to touchwiz, so id like to learn the sense system before switching around, i just dont want to make a stupid move that could have been avoided with research, but im also a very impatient person lol ok well i guess ill be flashing that tomorrow after i run sunshine. I used App2Zip to backup apps on my gs4, will this work on my m8 aas well? I find titanium backup a bit flashy for me, i need a simple user apps backup and that app works perfect
*HTC One M8 AT&T,Android Version 4.4.2, Unlocked with htcdev.com, Rooted, TWRP installed, Stock ROM with Xposed Framework
*Galaxy S4 AT&T, Android Version 4.3, rooted with SafeRoot, Safestrap 3.71 installed, Stock ROM
Ok so i will be using the sunshine app today (around 12-1 o'clock) to S-Off my m8. Ive noticed talk off WWE, and ppl discusing changing their HBOOT, and im curious if this is important? After i S-Off my device i will be flashing ARHD ROM (later tonight) as this will be my first ROM flash on this phone, im extreamly nervous. Ive made a nandroid backuo in TWRP. I just want to make sure ive covered everything, nobody like a $600 brick and considering i owe my mother-in-law for this phone, id like all to go smooth as i dont want to die lol. So guys any more advice? And other than a nandroid backup, is there any other way to cover my butt just in case?
*HTC One M8 AT&T,Android Version 4.4.2, Unlocked with htcdev.com, Rooted, TWRP installed, Stock ROM with Xposed Framework
*Galaxy S4 AT&T, Android Version 4.3, rooted with SafeRoot, Safestrap 3.71 installed, Stock ROM
LiLPurP said:
Ive noticed talk off WWE, and ppl discusing changing their HBOOT, and im curious if this is important? After i S-Off my device i will be flashing ARHD ROM (later tonight)
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Changing hboot is often not needed just to flash ROMs. However Android 4.4.3 (HTC software 2.22) based ROMs (ARHD 10.2 is one) happens to be an excepton; as you will need to flash what is known around here as the "firmware package" which includes hboot, radio, and other things. If you don't flash the firmware, you will likely get some serious bugs on 2.22 ROMs, including long boot times, as well as broken WiFi and Bluetooth.
You can find the process for flashing firmware below. I used this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/att-htc-one-m8/development/att-4-4-3-2-22-1540-3-debloated-sense-6-t2837365
And specifically in the ARHD thread here also (note that for the AT&T version, firmware 2.22.1540 is recommended as you might get NO SERVICE on the international firmware): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=54408500&postcount=9592
Be very careful you understand the process, as flashing hboot or radio is one of the few ways to actually brick the phone.
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LiLPurP said:
as this will be my first ROM flash on this phone, im extreamly nervous.
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Just flashing a ROM is actually not that risky (although flashing hboot or radio can be, as mentioned). Its actually pretty hard to brick this phone just flashing a ROM, as long as you make sure to only flash ROMs or other mods only meant for the M8 (GSM).
Just be sure not to flash anything meant for other devices (including the Verizon or Spring M8) as you can actually brick the phone this way if the partitioning is different, and you overwrite any critical partitions such as hboot, radio, or the partition table.
If you stick to the correct ROMs, usually the worst that can happen is a boot loop or failure to boot into the OS (phone stuck at boot screen). But if that happens, its usually not that hard to recover. There can be various reasons and different corresponding solutions. But usually reverting to nandroid, flashing a different ROM, or re-installing recovery (and flashing the ROM again) will fix you up.
Although, nervous is a good thing to be; as it will also mean you will be careful. Which is really half the battle.
Ok guys i have gained S-Off on my device, just a quick rundown, and correct me where needed
1. S-Off is not required for rom changing, but helps
2. I have 4.4.2, any rom that has a different version than this you must first flash the firmware package first, and this can only be done in fastbootusb (if step is skipped can expect lots of errors or bootloops)
3. WWE just means roms from america? (Doesnt seem correct)
4. Changing HBOOT is not required for changing roms, unless the rom calls for it
5. Other than the android version, there is a htc version on the phone as well?
This is kind of overwhelming so far, and im not the best at instruction manuals, im more of a visual learner. And it helps when things are explained in detail, for example, explaining that i need a firmware package helps, but why do i need it, the more i understand the better i can make my decisions. And thanks guys, this is huge help, ive always come to xda for help, this free community works better and quicker than anything ive tried
*HTC One M8 AT&T, Android Version 4.4.2, Unlocked with htcdev.com, Rooted, S-Off, TWRP installed, Stock ROM with Xposed Framework (Current Device)
*Galaxy S4 AT&T, Android Version 4.3, rooted with SafeRoot, Safestrap 3.71 installed, Stock ROM (Girlfriends Device)
Downloaded the unmodified 2.22.1540.3.zip firmware, this is the correct firmware for my AT&T M8 right?
And if im right ill:
1. adb and flash the firmware twice to be safe, then reboot the phone
2. adb flash TWRP recovery, then reflash supersu in TWRP to regain root access
3. Then flash the ARHD 10.1 ROM?
*HTC One M8 AT&T, Android Version 4.4.2, Unlocked with htcdev.com, Rooted, S-Off, TWRP installed, Stock ROM with Xposed Framework (Current Device)
*Galaxy S4 AT&T, Android Version 4.3, rooted with SafeRoot, Safestrap 3.71 installed, Stock ROM (Girlfriends Device)

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