Hi guys, so as it states im new to htc, ive only in the past 2 years been an android user and i owned sammy devices, so the change is a little overwhelming, s-off hboot, and other things that seem to be important to flashing are a mystery to me so any help would be awesome, and sorry if there was already a thread explaining all this
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LiLPurP said:
Hi guys, so as it states im new to htc, ive only in the past 2 years been an android user and i owned sammy devices, so the change is a little overwhelming, s-off hboot, and other things that seem to be important to flashing are a mystery to me so any help would be awesome, and sorry if there was already a thread explaining all this
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This should give u some pointers
If firewater does not work for your device go to the sunshine thread here
Should be all u need to unlock, root and s off and install custom recovery, then u can install roms etc.
Also any help requests belong in q&A section
shout me if u need help
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I have asked mods to move into Q&A mate
Lots of the basic terms explained well here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=52484527
Don't feel too overwhelmed, every manufacturer has their own idiosyncrasies. There is always a learning curve if you switch or buy a new brand device. Just stick with it, be patient and read up.
Thanks, im getting a little confused but its geting clear for me, heres a question, when i press and hold my home button, a pie type menu comes up, but only has google in it, ive looked everywhere, and i cant find how to set up shortcuts for this, anyone have any clues?
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LiLPurP said:
Thanks, im getting a little confused but its geting clear for me, heres a question, when i press and hold my home button, a pie type menu comes up, but only has google in it, ive looked everywhere, and i cant find how to set up shortcuts for this, anyone have any clues?
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That is google now. You cannot change it on sense roms to my knowledge. GPE you can used xposed and gravity box to create new "ring" shortcuts.
Thanks, ive actually been looking into the GPE ROM but not sure if i would need S-Off to use it, (S-Off is still kinda confusing) ive tried to use firewater but got a whelp error saying my device wouldnt work, and from my understanding, SunShine is the only thing that can give me S-Off, i will be doing this as soon as i have the 25 bucks to spend lol, id rather have it and not need it rather than need it and not have it
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You can flash gpe Rom. Just don't try ruu convert guide. Get soff while you can. You can do all sorts of stuff plus it lets you easily recover from most bricks.
Btw. Don't use toolkits. Learn adb and fastboot commands. They are easy and will make your life a lot easier.
an0ther said:
You can flash gpe Rom. Just don't try ruu convert guide. Get soff while you can. You can do all sorts of stuff plus it lets you easily recover from most bricks.
Btw. Don't use toolkits. Learn adb and fastboot commands. They are easy and will make your life a lot easier.
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I have small amounts of knowledge with adb, i unlocked using htcdev so adb was required, however not sure what you mean by toolkits, you mean like firewater or sunshine? And i will s off asap, but if i wait to long will i lose the privilege? And i haven't read about this ruu conveet guide, what is that if i may ask? And thanks for all the help guys
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LiLPurP said:
I have small amounts of knowledge with adb, i unlocked using htcdev so adb was required, however not sure what you mean by toolkits, you mean like firewater or sunshine? And i will s off asap, but if i wait to long will i lose the privilege? And i haven't read about this ruu conveet guide, what is that if i may ask? And thanks for all the help guys
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No. Firewater and sunshine are tools for soff. Those are fine. Toolkits flash recoveries, unlock bootlader etc... It's good you did it the manual way. And yes HTC will patch soff method in next update. Ruu are restore files kinda like tar and Odin on your Samsung devices. You can only run one that is made for your device... Unless you have soff. You can truly convert your m8 into any m8 variant. No advantages over just flashing a Rom. But with soff you can upgrade and downgrade firmware and radios. You can remove tampered and red hboot text. You can manualy perform updates with no need to lock bootlader. It gives you full flexibility of the phone.
Once you have soff they can't ever take it away.
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No. Firewater and sunshine are tools for soff. Those are fine. Toolkits flash recoveries, unlock bootlader etc... It's good you did it the manual way. And yes HTC will patch soff method in next update. Ruu are restore files kinda like tar and Odin on your Samsung devices. You can only run one that is made for your device... Unless you have soff. You can truly convert your m8 into any m8 variant. No advantages over just flashing a Rom. But with soff you can upgrade and downgrade firmware and radios. You can remove tampered and red hboot text. You can manualy perform updates with no need to lock bootlader. It gives you full flexibility of the phone.
Once you have soff they can't ever take it away.
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Is there anyway i can block that update from htc? And i have downloaded the liquidsmooth rom 4.4.4 and gapps 4.4.4, now am i ok to flash this?
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LiLPurP said:
Is there anyway i can block that update from htc? And i have downloaded the liquidsmooth rom 4.4.4 and gapps 4.4.4, now am i ok to flash this?
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As long as your running a Rom no update will be applied. Backup stock before flashing anything! So many people don't do this for some reason. You can flash it if you want. Aosp is still a little buggy on the m8. I would recommend gpe over aosp for now but it's up to you. There are some good sense roms too. I wouldn't flash any aosp without soff. Just in case. I've had aosp soft brick when I try to flash another Rom after it before.
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As long as your running a Rom no update will be applied. Backup stock before flashing anything! So many people don't do this for some reason. You can flash it if you want. Aosp is still a little buggy on the m8. I would recommend gpe over aosp for now but it's up to you. There are some good sense roms too. I wouldn't flash any aosp without soff. Just in case. I've had aosp soft brick when I try to flash another Rom after it before.
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Awesome thanks for the advice, guess that download wont be used for now, do you have any recommendations on roms? I have the att version if that makes a difference. And yea i made a backup in TWRP as soon as i unlocked the bootloader. I want to start slow and learn as i go, i will most likely pay the 25 for the sunshine app to s-off tomorrow, i got the phone about 3 days ago so i want it custom while i have the chance lol seems android is starting to be less open source every time i get a new phone
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an0ther said:
No. Firewater and sunshine are tools for soff. Those are fine. Toolkits flash recoveries, unlock bootlader etc... It's good you did it the manual way. And yes HTC will patch soff method in next update. Ruu are restore files kinda like tar and Odin on your Samsung devices. You can only run one that is made for your device... Unless you have soff. You can truly convert your m8 into any m8 variant. No advantages over just flashing a Rom. But with soff you can upgrade and downgrade firmware and radios. You can remove tampered and red hboot text. You can manualy perform updates with no need to lock bootlader. It gives you full flexibility of the phone.
Once you have soff they can't ever take it away.
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If you paid for sunshine it will always work not like Firewater...even if it's patched or not
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If you paid for sunshine it will always work not like Firewater...even if it's patched or not
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Well i have tried firewater, and it said no amount of flashing, ruu, ect will make it work, so i assume that means SunShine is my only option. And has anyone used the Android Revolution HD ROM, ive been looking and it has awesome features
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LiLPurP said:
Well i have tried firewater, and it said no amount of flashing, ruu, ect will make it work, so i assume that means SunShine is my only option. And has anyone used the Android Revolution HD ROM, ive been looking and it has awesome features
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ARHD is as close to stock as you can find. But this is a matter of preference. There are many ROMs to choose from and only after you test them, you can decide what suits you best.
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ARHD is as close to stock as you can find. But this is a matter of preference. There are many ROMs to choose from and only after you test them, you can decide what suits you best.
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Yea near stock is good for me as im used to touchwiz, so id like to learn the sense system before switching around, i just dont want to make a stupid move that could have been avoided with research, but im also a very impatient person lol ok well i guess ill be flashing that tomorrow after i run sunshine. I used App2Zip to backup apps on my gs4, will this work on my m8 aas well? I find titanium backup a bit flashy for me, i need a simple user apps backup and that app works perfect
*HTC One M8 AT&T,Android Version 4.4.2, Unlocked with htcdev.com, Rooted, TWRP installed, Stock ROM with Xposed Framework
*Galaxy S4 AT&T, Android Version 4.3, rooted with SafeRoot, Safestrap 3.71 installed, Stock ROM
Ok so i will be using the sunshine app today (around 12-1 o'clock) to S-Off my m8. Ive noticed talk off WWE, and ppl discusing changing their HBOOT, and im curious if this is important? After i S-Off my device i will be flashing ARHD ROM (later tonight) as this will be my first ROM flash on this phone, im extreamly nervous. Ive made a nandroid backuo in TWRP. I just want to make sure ive covered everything, nobody like a $600 brick and considering i owe my mother-in-law for this phone, id like all to go smooth as i dont want to die lol. So guys any more advice? And other than a nandroid backup, is there any other way to cover my butt just in case?
*HTC One M8 AT&T,Android Version 4.4.2, Unlocked with htcdev.com, Rooted, TWRP installed, Stock ROM with Xposed Framework
*Galaxy S4 AT&T, Android Version 4.3, rooted with SafeRoot, Safestrap 3.71 installed, Stock ROM
LiLPurP said:
Ive noticed talk off WWE, and ppl discusing changing their HBOOT, and im curious if this is important? After i S-Off my device i will be flashing ARHD ROM (later tonight)
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WWE = world wide English
Changing hboot is often not needed just to flash ROMs. However Android 4.4.3 (HTC software 2.22) based ROMs (ARHD 10.2 is one) happens to be an excepton; as you will need to flash what is known around here as the "firmware package" which includes hboot, radio, and other things. If you don't flash the firmware, you will likely get some serious bugs on 2.22 ROMs, including long boot times, as well as broken WiFi and Bluetooth.
You can find the process for flashing firmware below. I used this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/att-htc-one-m8/development/att-4-4-3-2-22-1540-3-debloated-sense-6-t2837365
And specifically in the ARHD thread here also (note that for the AT&T version, firmware 2.22.1540 is recommended as you might get NO SERVICE on the international firmware): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=54408500&postcount=9592
Be very careful you understand the process, as flashing hboot or radio is one of the few ways to actually brick the phone.
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LiLPurP said:
as this will be my first ROM flash on this phone, im extreamly nervous.
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Just flashing a ROM is actually not that risky (although flashing hboot or radio can be, as mentioned). Its actually pretty hard to brick this phone just flashing a ROM, as long as you make sure to only flash ROMs or other mods only meant for the M8 (GSM).
Just be sure not to flash anything meant for other devices (including the Verizon or Spring M8) as you can actually brick the phone this way if the partitioning is different, and you overwrite any critical partitions such as hboot, radio, or the partition table.
If you stick to the correct ROMs, usually the worst that can happen is a boot loop or failure to boot into the OS (phone stuck at boot screen). But if that happens, its usually not that hard to recover. There can be various reasons and different corresponding solutions. But usually reverting to nandroid, flashing a different ROM, or re-installing recovery (and flashing the ROM again) will fix you up.
Although, nervous is a good thing to be; as it will also mean you will be careful. Which is really half the battle.
Ok guys i have gained S-Off on my device, just a quick rundown, and correct me where needed
1. S-Off is not required for rom changing, but helps
2. I have 4.4.2, any rom that has a different version than this you must first flash the firmware package first, and this can only be done in fastbootusb (if step is skipped can expect lots of errors or bootloops)
3. WWE just means roms from america? (Doesnt seem correct)
4. Changing HBOOT is not required for changing roms, unless the rom calls for it
5. Other than the android version, there is a htc version on the phone as well?
This is kind of overwhelming so far, and im not the best at instruction manuals, im more of a visual learner. And it helps when things are explained in detail, for example, explaining that i need a firmware package helps, but why do i need it, the more i understand the better i can make my decisions. And thanks guys, this is huge help, ive always come to xda for help, this free community works better and quicker than anything ive tried
*HTC One M8 AT&T, Android Version 4.4.2, Unlocked with htcdev.com, Rooted, S-Off, TWRP installed, Stock ROM with Xposed Framework (Current Device)
*Galaxy S4 AT&T, Android Version 4.3, rooted with SafeRoot, Safestrap 3.71 installed, Stock ROM (Girlfriends Device)
Downloaded the unmodified 2.22.1540.3.zip firmware, this is the correct firmware for my AT&T M8 right?
And if im right ill:
1. adb and flash the firmware twice to be safe, then reboot the phone
2. adb flash TWRP recovery, then reflash supersu in TWRP to regain root access
3. Then flash the ARHD 10.1 ROM?
*HTC One M8 AT&T, Android Version 4.4.2, Unlocked with htcdev.com, Rooted, S-Off, TWRP installed, Stock ROM with Xposed Framework (Current Device)
*Galaxy S4 AT&T, Android Version 4.3, rooted with SafeRoot, Safestrap 3.71 installed, Stock ROM (Girlfriends Device)
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How to extract stock Rom? The case is that I haven't done backup of my stock Rom branded by era provider.
Now some guy told me that he just bought desire z from era and his Rom is identical to RUU_Vision_HTC_WWE_1.72.405.2_R_Radio_12.28e.60.14 0f_26.04.02.17_M2_SF_release (available on this forum)
except radio code which is ending with fU instead f.
So if I would like to get Rom which is flashed on his device, to have exactly what was on mine on the beginning what and how it should be done?
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Searching XDA found this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=Flashing_Guide_-_Android#RUU_Flashing
I think it's just connect phone, run RUU*.exe
tan-ce said:
Searching XDA found this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=Flashing_Guide_-_Android#RUU_Flashing
I think it's just connect phone, run RUU*.exe
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Ok thanks it is for sure usefully guide but I'd like to know how to retrieve or backup stock Rom from the phone with original stock?
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Ok, if I understand you right, you currently have a phone with stock ROM, and you want to take a backup of that phone, correct?
If that's the case, I think you'll still need to root the phone in order to install Clockwork recovery. Once you have Clockwork, then you can take a nandroid backup of your phone. So I don't think you can grab a backup of stock ROM before it was rooted.
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Ok, if I understand you right, you currently have a phone with stock ROM, and you want to take a backup of that phone, correct?
If that's the case, I think you'll still need to root the phone in order to install Clockwork recovery. Once you have Clockwork, then you can take a nandroid backup of your phone. So I don't think you can grab a backup of stock ROM before it was rooted.
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Yeah so this a problem. During rooting it is necessary to downgrade your soft to 1.34 what automatically force you to loose your stock Rom. :/
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Oh right, now I remember. I think if you can't find the exact RUU, you're out of luck. What do you want that backup for anyway?
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Oh right, now I remember. I think if you can't find the exact RUU, you're out of luck. What do you want that backup for anyway?
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No no I wanted only to have a possibility to back to the stock Rom if my phone will have to be sent to service on warranty.
I know one guy from Poland who also bought a phone from the same telcom operator - era.
He gave me info that the stock Rom on his phone is:
12.28e.60.140fU_26.04.02.17_M2
While on the forum can be find the same but with one difference in radio code - only f instead fU
12.28e.60.140f_26.04.02.17_M2 and can be found in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=879384
But what does it mean this difference mentioned above and if it is negligible or not?
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Well, unless you've flashed a custom radio, another option could be to extract everything from that RUU you found in the forum and flashing everything except the radio.
Although if you want to send your phone for warranty you'll probably have to do a bit more work to get s-on again...
tan-ce said:
Well, unless you've flashed a custom radio, another option could be to extract everything from that RUU you found in the forum and flashing everything except the radio.
Although if you want to send your phone for warranty you'll probably have to do a bit more work to get s-on again...
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I've flashed two ROMs first one was CM7-R2 and then I've decided to use Virtuous 1.0.1. I don't know if during that process also radio was flashed :/ Was it? I am new Android so I don't know some things yet.
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Sebalos said:
I've flashed two ROMs first one was CM7-R2 and then I've decided to use Virtuous 1.0.1. I don't know if during that process also radio was flashed :/ Was it? I am new Android so I don't know some things yet.
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I'm quite sure that flashing those ROMs do not change your radio. So if you need to send for warranty, I think you'll just need to flash the ROM part of the RUU (should be able to find a post somewhere which tells you how to extract just certain parts of the RUU) and then reflash partition 7 to get S-OFF. If you used gfree, it would have made a backup of that partition before it gave you S-OFF. Hopefully you still have it.
Actually, have you taken a look at this?
Hey all,
I've come over from a DesireZ where I never had to flash the kernel itself, I simply use CWM to flash different Firmware Roms.. I flashed MIUI,CM9 and varients of ...
Now with the HTC One V, I've discovered that the CM9 Rom/Firmware requires a specific kernel (Titanium Kiss) to work, and considering that the version of TK is prefixed with CM9 Im also guessing that I cant use that kernel with other firmwares (like SuPrimo)...
Reading the CM9 Wiki page on fastboot (http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/Fastboot) is the following true.
1. As my HTC OneV is S/OFF - engineering SPL & unlocked (via htc), ive discovered that I can use fastboot and flash kernel, cwm or all roms etc.. So if Im right I can totally goof up a kernel flash (ie wrong one) but it doesnt matter because i can always reflash the right one??
2. CWM (Recovery) doesnt use the same kernel as the ROM, it has it own right?
or more importantly, this all sounds like the phone is brick proof... im guessing its not, what should I be careful flashing...
thanks all and hope this is in the right area
I've just found this thread http://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/archive/t-1505233.html on another forum and it states you cant brick a phone by flashing, boot, kernels or roms.. or even recoveries as its always possible to go back to "fastboot" or SPL ..
However replacing radios &/or SPLs can brick a phone..
Anyone disagree? if not then thread closed
asantaga said:
Hey all,
I've come over from a DesireZ where I never had to flash the kernel itself, I simply use CWM to flash different Firmware Roms.. I flashed MIUI,CM9 and varients of ...
Now with the HTC One V, I've discovered that the CM9 Rom/Firmware requires a specific kernel (Titanium Kiss) to work, and considering that the version of TK is prefixed with CM9 Im also guessing that I cant use that kernel with other firmwares (like SuPrimo)...
Reading the CM9 Wiki page on fastboot (http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/Fastboot) is the following true.
1. As my HTC OneV is S/OFF - engineering SPL & unlocked (via htc), ive discovered that I can use fastboot and flash kernel, cwm or all roms etc.. So if Im right I can totally goof up a kernel flash (ie wrong one) but it doesnt matter because i can always reflash the right one??
2. CWM (Recovery) doesnt use the same kernel as the ROM, it has it own right?
or more importantly, this all sounds like the phone is brick proof... im guessing its not, what should I be careful flashing...
thanks all and hope this is in the right area
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No these kernels are specifically made for that specific ROMS, there is a high chance u will brick ur phone if u do
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don't screw up, cause kernels are like ur motherboard
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hum... that now confuses me, Reading the document at the cyanogenmod wiki, and the other forum, implies that with fastboot you can flash kernel,recovery & roms..
I think fastboot is like your BIOS, and yes v. dangerous to flash, but kernel+rom is just a linux kernel +related filesystems...you can screw it up because you can always use fastboot to flash the right kernel+rom
The documentation also says that you can delete the kernel + recovery to make it easier for kernel developers to develop kernels.. if this were the case then the phone would be bricked?
I do understand though that some kernels dont work with all roms, so yes kernel+rom are related also the doc is generic not specific to the htc one v..
comments?
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No these kernels are specifically made for that specific ROMS, there is a high chance u will brick ur phone if u do
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don't screw up, cause kernels are like ur motherboard
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He means hard brick.
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?but If im right if your kernel & rom are toast, you can still reflash them, providing you can get to fastboot right?
asantaga said:
?but If im right if your kernel & rom are toast, you can still reflash them, providing you can get to fastboot right?
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yes
Thanks maxwen
Last question... Im assuming Fastboot is very low level.. (like BIOS). What tools would one use to flash the "fastboot".. As my phone is now running unlocked SOFF from HTC I dont think I ever need to tinker with the radio or SPL..
Im only asking so that I keep well clear of these tools.. or if I do i'll be extra extra extra extra extra careful.
thanks again
asantaga said:
Last question... Im assuming Fastboot is very low level.. (like BIOS). What tools would one use to flash the "fastboot".. As my phone is now running unlocked SOFF from HTC I dont think I ever need to tinker with the radio or SPL..
Im only asking so that I keep well clear of these tools.. or if I do i'll be extra extra extra extra extra careful.
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Dont use anything beside fastboot and adb then you are safe
And since only a handful of people have S-OFF on their One V right now you are
wrong here to ask about such things anyway
maxwen said:
Dont use anything beside fastboot and adb then you are safe
And since only a handful of people have S-OFF on their One V right now you are
wrong here to ask about such things anyway
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Thanks there!
mmm Im asssuming I have S-OFF.. I unlocked my phone using the standard HTC "unlock" process. When it now boots it says "This build is for development purposes etc etc etc", from what I understand this means its an "engineering firmware/fastboot" and impllicitly "S-OFF"..... .
I didnt do anything special, just followed the steps from htc..
go into the bootloader at the top it will either say S-ON or S-OFF and by the way i highly doubt your S-OFF just by rooting your phone....all of us get that message....
Lloir said:
go into the bootloader at the top it will either say S-ON or S-OFF and by the way i highly doubt your S-OFF just by rooting your phone....all of us get that message....
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your absolutely right.. it says
**** UNLOCKED ****
PRIMOU PVT SHIP S-ON RL
HBOOT-1.18.0000
eMMC-boot
Jul 2 2012,20:51:45
So im guessing I can only flash signed roms??
Doing some R&D, found this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=29844067#post29844067 and specifically this.. paragraph which explains all
1) HTCdev.com's "Bootloader Unlock":
Basically this leaves the bootloader's (ie, Hboot 1.50 & 1.58) security flag on (S-On) but "unlocks the bootloader" (kinda like the phones Bios) so that you can manually flash everything except for Radios (Baseband) and Boot Logo's (Splash Screen). Kernels & roms can be flashed once a custom recovery is installed, but there are "extra" steps involved because the /boot partition (kernel/zImage) can only be set to write access from the Android OS or by initiating custom recovery from a pc's "Fastboot Command Prompt". There are workarounds, some work better than others. To flash Radio updates, you have to relock the bootloader and flash an OEM Full Stock Ruu (Rom Update Utility), kinda like Samsung's Sw Updater for the Transform. You also have to register your device with HTC and it "may void your warranty"
IF U HARD brick u ****ed man...ur phone won't boot....so just don't mess around with things u don't know about
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Cybervibin,
".so just don't mess around with things u don't know about", precisely why Im asking the questions
I totally understand that if I flash the wrong thing I can brick the phone , and trust me , its not my plan
asantaga said:
Cybervibin,
".so just don't mess around with things u don't know about", precisely why Im asking the questions
I totally understand that if I flash the wrong thing I can brick the phone , and trust me , its not my plan
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Soft brick.happens allot i almost soft brick.my phone ever.day
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I have received an upgrade from my network - Three UK - htc One X
I rooted my unlocked Evo 3D previously, but reading into One X root, I'm finding conflicting information and no straight forward solutions. I have had 2 software updates already - 4.0.4 now. Sense 4.1
Does it matter that I have these updates and that the phone came from the carrier?
Anyone know the best way to get it rooted, so that I can backup the stock Rom before choosing a custom?
Thanks
Altermatik83
UK
Please explain what you want ? Are on complete stock and want to update or are you on a custom rom and want to update ?
And is there still an update available or did you update it to the latest 4.0.4 sense 4.1 ?
I'm a little confused reading your text !
Update 4.0.4 comes with sense 4.1 this is one update not 2 separate updates !
Please give the proper info so i can help you with this
If you want to root you must unlock via HTC dev first . And second there are devs that has made it easy for you .there's apps in the dev section that will do it all for you here's one i found for you http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1604439 and once you install your recovery you would want to make a back up of your stock Rom
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MarcelHofs said:
Please explain what you want ? Are on complete stock and want to update or are you on a custom rom and want to update ?
And is there still an update available or did you update it to the latest 4.0.4 sense 4.1 ?
I'm a little confused reading your text !
Update 4.0.4 comes with sense 4.1 this is one update not 2 separate updates !
Please give the proper info so i can help you with this
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It is stock, just thought I'd mention that it updated to 4.0.4 recently. Wasn't sure if it would affect the rooting process.
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If you want to root you must unlock via HTC dev first . And second there are devs that has made it easy for you .there's apps in the dev section that will do it all for you here's one i found for you http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1604439 and once you install your recovery you would want to make a back up of your stock Rom
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Thanks for the reply. Do you have to go the HTCdev route with this? I don't mind doing it a harder way, just the best way. I'm guessing it doesnt matter that the phone is locked to a carrier.
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It is stock, just thought I'd mention that it updated to 4.0.4 recently. Wasn't sure if it would affect the rooting process.
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You can still root it following the rooting instructions, there are even video guides for it. It is something everyone can successfully do
If you use that app that I recommended in the previous post HTC dev is built in the app
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Altermatik83 said:
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It is stock, just thought I'd mention that it updated to 4.0.4 recently. Wasn't sure if it would affect the rooting process.
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No problem at all, and after the install of the cwm recovery please make a backup of your rom...
And read in on flashing boot.img files with fastboot commands, very important to know and learn how to use them !
MarcelHofs said:
No problem at all, and after the install of the cwm recovery please make a backup of your rom...
And read in on flashing boot.img files with fastboot commands, very important to know and learn how to use them !
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All done and rooted! Only, bootloader says S-ON... but Super user is installed. Nandroid backing up as I write this.
Now, I guess I'll be looking at Roms now, I enjoyed Leedroid on my previous (EVO 3D). Any thoughs on this?
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All done and rooted! Only, bootloader says S-ON... but Super user is installed. Nandroid backing up as I write this.
Now, I guess I'll be looking at Roms now, I enjoyed Leedroid on my previous (EVO 3D). Any thoughs on this?
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S-on is normal ! We don't have s-off yet that's why you have to flash the boot.img file with fastboot commands !!!
Well i don't want to sound as a fanboy but i'm with team venom from the beginning (team pokemon in the beginning) it has some really nice features and customizing stuff !!!
If you need any help you can always PM me ! :thumbup:
I'm going to start with an apology if my searching skills aren't that great,but I've searched all around and find nothing.. ok..question...
Can someone name some benefits a user can gain by getting s-off on this device...? I thought unlocked and rooted was enough to flash roms....now I have to get s-off??
Thanks in advance...
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Slicktune said:
I'm going to start with an apology if my searching skills aren't that great,but I've searched all around and find nothing.. ok..question...
Can someone name some benefits a user can gain by getting s-off on this device...? I thought unlocked and rooted was enough to flash roms....now I have to get s-off??
Thanks in advance...
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Edit: You don't need S-Off to flash custom roms/kernels/recoveriers - it's for people that want to tinker at a deeper level.
From what I remember from my DNA days, S-Off removes the security flag on HTC devices and allows you to flash a different h-boot, change the CID - which allows you to flash firmware from different carriers (BE CAREFUL DOING THIS), and remove the "unlocked/tampered" text from the fastboot menu.
Also, check out the 2nd half of the article in this link: http://www.pocketables.com/2013/04/why-you-want-root-and-s-off-on-htc-devices.html
Again, be careful with S-Off. If you ever go back to S-On and have the wrong h-boot or firmware installed I believe it will brick the device.
mcdsmaster8824 said:
Edit: You don't need S-Off to flash custom roms/kernels/recoveriers - it's for people that want to tinker at a deeper level.
From what I remember from my DNA days, S-Off removes the security flag on HTC devices and allows you to flash a different h-boot, change the CID - which allows you to flash firmware from different carriers (BE CAREFUL DOING THIS), and remove the "unlocked/tampered" text from the fastboot menu.
Also, check out the 2nd half of the article in this link: http://www.pocketables.com/2013/04/why-you-want-root-and-s-off-on-htc-devices.html
Again, be careful with S-Off. If you ever go back to S-On and have the wrong h-boot or firmware installed I believe it will brick the device.
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Thanks bro, I have s-on/unlocked but it doesn't say anything about being "tampered" I did notice around the threads that everyone that wanted to convert to gpe or flash a GPE Rom needs s-off?
Thanks in advance
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Thanks bro, I have s-on/unlocked but it doesn't say anything about being "tampered" I did notice around the threads that everyone that wanted to convert to gpe or flash a GPE Rom needs s-off?
Thanks in advance
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Well that's new to me. If the developer of the ROM says to have your phone S-OFF then definitely go with their instructions. I haven't seen the S-OFF method on the forums here, but I'm sure a google search will get you to the needed file(s) and instructions. If I remember correctly, actually achieving S-OFF wasn't too complicated/dangerous as long as you're comfortable using adb/fastboot - it's just what you can do to your phone once you've achieved S-OFF that can be dangerous.
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Thanks bro, I have s-on/unlocked but it doesn't say anything about being "tampered" I did notice around the threads that everyone that wanted to convert to gpe or flash a GPE Rom needs s-off?
Thanks in advance
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If you fully convert to gpe I think you need s-off because you use the ruu. But with an unlocked bootloader, you can just flash the gpe ROM instead of fully converting the phone.
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If you fully convert to gpe I think you need s-off because you use the ruu. But with an unlocked bootloader, you can just flash the gpe ROM instead of fully converting the phone.
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I'm sorry, but I have to ask...what's the benefit of a full gpe conversion? Does it run faster...Will it update if the HTC gpe edition gets updated and will I have trouble with the T-Mobile bands? Thank you so much
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That's exactly why most people do the ruu conversion, when there's an ota they will get the update too as long as you keep the stock Google recovery. Although on my m7 I was able to get ota with twrp. On m7 I kept Google radio and had no problems with T-Mobile. I think it should be the same for m8 since on the play store it says the phone supports T-Mobile. Just go check out the thread for the conversion if you need help.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2708589
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Hi guys I have a T-mobile M8 and I am trying to get it s-off. I tried using firewater from the below link. Whenever I try to run the firewater app from adb nothing happens and it actually deletes the file. I have root and a custom rom already. How can I get it s-off?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2708464
putnum said:
Hi guys I have a T-mobile M8 and I am trying to get it s-off. I tried using firewater from the below link. Whenever I try to run the firewater app from adb nothing happens and it actually deletes the file. I have root and a custom rom already. How can I get it s-off?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2708464
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Sunshine s-off
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Make sure you are on a rom closely based on stock, or even one of the stock nandroids before using sunshine for s-off.
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Sunshine s-off
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I was hoping for a free option.... Can I not s-off for free?
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I was hoping for a free option.... Can I not s-off for free?
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Just went through the process of trying to find a free alternative, but I wasn't able to.
But Sunshine worked like a treat. The funny/unfortunate thing was that my first M8 (sent it back for the loose volume rocker issue) was S-Off'd via firewater without a hitch.
Second time around, I got walled at "chugging" before the 2nd bottle without fail, no matter what I tried. I attempted while I was on stock Sense, GPe 4.4.3 ROM, and finally CM11, all to no avail. I reverted to stock Sense (pre-requisite for Sunshine), and completed S-Off in a matter of minutes (and $25 poorer).
esuohe said:
Just went through the process of trying to find a free alternative, but I wasn't able to.
But Sunshine worked like a treat. The funny/unfortunate thing was that my first M8 (sent it back for the loose volume rocker issue) was S-Off'd via firewater without a hitch.
Second time around, I got walled at "chugging" before the 2nd bottle without fail, no matter what I tried. I attempted while I was on stock Sense, GPe 4.4.3 ROM, and finally CM11, all to no avail. I reverted to stock Sense (pre-requisite for Sunshine), and completed S-Off in a matter of minutes (and $25 poorer).
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Specifically, what ROM's work with Sunshine? I'm T-Mobile 4.4.2. I know it says original, sense-based ROM's, but nothing I've tried has worked. Do I need to un-root?
Thanks.
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Specifically, what ROM's work with Sunshine? I'm T-Mobile 4.4.2. I know it says original, sense-based ROM's, but nothing I've tried has worked. Do I need to un-root?
Thanks.
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All the custom rom's I have tried, and when you root, all warn you to make a nandroid backup. If you did that, you can make another nandroid backup of your current rom, restore the backup when you first rooted, use sunshine, then restore your custom rom. At least that is what worked for me. If you didn't, you may have to restore the rom using the HTC updater and then go through the unroot process again. But do the s-off before installing the custom rom.
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All the custom rom's I have tried, and when you root, all warn you to make a nandroid backup. If you did that, you can make another nandroid backup of your current rom, restore the backup when you first rooted, use sunshine, then restore your custom rom. At least that is what worked for me. If you didn't, you may have to restore the rom using the HTC updater and then go through the unroot process again. But do the s-off before installing the custom rom.
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Thanks for the reply. I don't have a pre-root backup. So, I guess I'll have to unroot.
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Thanks for the reply. I don't have a pre-root backup. So, I guess I'll have to unroot.
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But think of all the fun you will have. Plus a 2nd chance to do a nandroid backup of the stock rom. One reason I came back to Android is because I think loading and doing roms is fun. I bought a 2nd M8 so I can try other roms without taking a chance of bricking my main phone. Well, good luck and hope everything works fine for you, but remember the #1 rule... Backup up often!!! Nandroid backups are your friends. :laugh: