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Hey, XDA
I'm having strange issues with fresh 16 GB microSDHC (Class 4) and Starburst ROM (Lite 1.3.3.3), both with Data2SD and without it.
I get up to 2200 in Quadrant Advanced, XviD and FLAC seems to play fine, but actual performance is much worse. Sometimes it won't ask for PIN, won't turn on WiFi, fail to wake up, apps load very slowly. No F/Cs, luckily.
That card doesn't have any manufacturer info written on it (bought it in store however, packaging said "Nokia", who knows). It seems to work fine, full 16 GB, connected to PC, though, no write speed issues, too.
Finally, I've restored to stock 2.2 ROM so as to exclude phone hardware and flaky sdcard issues. It works like a charm, so problem seems to be in software.
Also, Starburst ROM has worked fine for months on stock 4 GB SanDisk (Class 4), including Data2SD feature (the best thing made for Desire, hands down).
If DroidZone or Sibere sees this thread, big ups, guys - you've made one of the best ROM / feature for Desire
If you have some ideas of what I might've done wrong or whether it could be an issue with Starburst ROM, I'd be thankful for some clarification.
P.S. Running with S-OFF & ClockworkMod 2.5.1.8
P.S. I'd put this in the Starburst ROM thread, but can't due to this being my first post.
Hey cralias,
you said that "Starburst ROM has worked fine for months on stock 4 GB SanDisk (Class 4), including Data2SD feature". Is it the same rom and the same data2sd, which you have installed at the new card? Nothing changed?
That was an older version, 1.2 Lite (I think?) when there was only one Data2SD version available.
However, 1.3.3.3 Lite seems to work fine with the 4 GB card, both with and without Data2SD (Uberfast edition).
I will try Standard Edition today, to see if maybe updated kernel fixes stuff...
cralias said:
Hey, XDA
I'm having strange issues with fresh 16 GB microSDHC (Class 4) and Starburst ROM (Lite 1.3.3.3), both with Data2SD and without it.
I get up to 2200 in Quadrant Advanced, XviD and FLAC seems to play fine, but actual performance is much worse. Sometimes it won't ask for PIN, won't turn on WiFi, fail to wake up, apps load very slowly. No F/Cs, luckily.
That card doesn't have any manufacturer info written on it (bought it in store however, packaging said "Nokia", who knows). It seems to work fine, full 16 GB, connected to PC, though, no write speed issues, too.
Finally, I've restored to stock 2.2 ROM so as to exclude phone hardware and flaky sdcard issues. It works like a charm, so problem seems to be in software.
Also, Starburst ROM has worked fine for months on stock 4 GB SanDisk (Class 4), including Data2SD feature (the best thing made for Desire, hands down).
If DroidZone or Sibere sees this thread, big ups, guys - you've made one of the best ROM / feature for Desire
If you have some ideas of what I might've done wrong or whether it could be an issue with Starburst ROM, I'd be thankful for some clarification.
P.S. Running with S-OFF & ClockworkMod 2.5.1.8
P.S. I'd put this in the Starburst ROM thread, but can't due to this being my first post.
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When you very first installed starburst did you restart right away and install the data2sd installer?
I been running starburst now for over 1 month and had no problems also using a 16gb PNY sd card from play.com
shankly1985 said:
When you very first installed starburst did you restart right away and install the data2sd installer?
I been running starburst now for over 1 month and had no problems also using a 16gb PNY sd card from play.com
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Yup. Didn't configure Wifi nor Google account, just Language, Timezone and then reboot to recovery.
No luck with 1.3.3.5 either.
Could it be an issue with FAT32 allocation unit size? I've set 8K (using EASEUS here, it's default).
cralias said:
Yup. Didn't configure Wifi nor Google account, just Language, Timezone and then reboot to recovery.
No luck with 1.3.3.5 either.
Could it be an issue with FAT32 allocation unit size? I've set 8K (using EASEUS here, it's default).
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Try using the newer data 2sd scripts with xe or we. they're on the beta section. Try a re partition and install the rom followed by new script. Should eliminate lags for slow cards
Swyped with my Starburst based Desire. Forgive any typos!
No luck.
Well, I've come to a conclusion that all problems come from a flaky SD card, whatsoever. Phone doesn't like it. I will use it for some other purpose until it dies of old age.
Just another lesson for me not to buy crap at stores.
Thanks everyone.
And once again a special one for Droidzone and all involved for Starburst ROM/Data2SD. This thing roxx0rz
Hi Cralias, you've already drawn the correct conclusion, but just to reassure you, I've had exactly the same kinds of problems with Starburst and kingston sdhc cards. Starburst worked fine on the sandisk that came with the phone but not on two brand new kingston 16gb class 4 cards. Got a sandisk 16gb class 4 and Starburst was fine.
You're right, Droidzone and Sibre desrve mad props for this ROM, it's how the device should have come out of the box.
As you've correctly deduced, the key to making Starburst reach it's potential is a reliable and quick SDHC card.
Booce
Hey guys.
A while ago I`ve rooted my hTC Desire and did an S-OFF, to be able to install custom ROMs.
I`ve "tested" a few custom ROMs, but none of them seemed to be stable.
Currently I`m on SuperNova_Classic_2.0.2.0 with built in Data2SD (iData2SD)(the idea is to have a stable rooted ROM, with DATA2SD and Sense), but every time I flash the rom, then install my fav apps, the phone keeps freezing at certain points, sometimes it runs OK for a week - with no freezing - other times it freezes in the first couple of days after ROM flash. I`ve tried not to install that many apps, but I`m still facing this freeze problem.
Has anyone experienced this before?
Here are the steps I took for ROM flashing
1. Created a 1GB ext4 partition on SD-CARD, preceded by a FAT32 partition(as required in the tutorial of Supernova)
2. Rebooted into Recovery - wiped data/factory reset; wiped cache partition; wiped Dalvik Cache
3. Installed the ROM zip file from SD-CARD; on first boot, except for the Wi-Fi connection, I haven`t touched anything(google accounts etc. - skipped all steps - ), waited for the system to stabilyze, then did a normal reboot in order for the DATA2SD function to work. After next reboot, DATA2SD was working properly(I even had the pink LED light up), Storage Information was showing the 1GB ext partition as an internal memory.
4. Installed all my apps, configured phone, widgets etc.
This way, at a certain point, the phone simply freezes, have to remove the battery to be able to use it again.
Here are my phone specs:
Bravo PVT1 SHIP S-OFF
HBOOT-6.93.1002
MICROP-031d
TOUCH PANel-SYNT0101
RADIO-5.17.05.23
ClockworkMod Recovery v5.0.2.0
Transcend class 4 - 16GB microSD card
I`ve searched and searched on xda-developers, but haven`t found an answer for my problem, yet.
What am I doing wrong here?
Any help would be DEEPLY appreciated !!!
This is no help to you.... but I'm having exactly the same issue.
Sometimes it freezes when starting a game, but most of the time it won't unlock(ie phone unresponsive when I try to wake it).
This is not ROM related as it happened on several different Roms, with a full wipe between. I'm not overclocking.
The only things I can think of are:
-Partially corrupt ext partition on SD.
-failing hardware.
-some other sw issue ie radio(which has worked for a while before this started happening).
Thanks for your reply, Shaun - it does help, at least now I`m not alone in this
You`re right, it`t not ROM related, I`ve tried different ROMs myself, same problem.
I`ve also tried another SD CARD (class 2).
I don`t think it`s the radio, I have the latest version, the version required on Supernova tutorial for best compliance.
I really don`t want to believe that it`s a hardware fault, as I didn`t overclock either and always read/followed the exact right/official steps in root-ing/flashing ROMs.
I`ve reinstalled Supernova now, with absolutely no additional installation of fav apps. Going on 2 days with no freezeing, so far.
I`ll keep post-ing if any new developments occur.
Cheers.
You've not installed any apps at all? hmmm.
When you do re-install your apps(I assume from Titanium backup?), it'd be interesting to see if it starts freezing again.
This would then suggest either a dodgy app that we both have, or titanium backup itself causing the issue.
What SD card specs?
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rootSU said:
What SD card specs?
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I'm using the same card that i've had for the last 18 months-
it's an 8gb class 2 card with 768mb partition, the rest is Fat32.
I`ve started reinstalling some of the apps, the most important ones, like iGo, YahooMessenger, YahooMail, etc., but didn`t use Titanium Backup, installed them manually using Market.
So far, so good, no freezing.
My SD CARD specs: Transcend Class 4 - 16GB; 1GB ext2 partition for apps, and the rest is FAT32.
LE
I could be wrong, but from what I`ve seen so far, I would recommend NOT to use widgets that require superuser permissions. Also, before flashing any pre-rooted ROM, be sure to turn "Signature verification" OFF, in the phone`s "Recovery" screen options. If your ROM has any kind of "Data2SD" scripts integrated, after flashing ROM - at first boot, DO NOT configure anything (google account, sync, etc.), DO NOT download/install any apps yet, ONLY enter the Wi-Fi settings(if that is the case); leave the system to stabylize, then do a normal reboot(if the ROM supports "Fast boot" - turn it OFF before rebooting). At second normal boot, the DATA2SD scripts should kick in ( u should see the phone`s notification LED turn to: pink or blue - depending on the script used by the ROM).
A class 2 is a definite no no for Data2sd IMHO. Class 4 is debatable. I had a bit of lag with an older version of data2sd on a class 4. It may be better now, Depends what speed the card writes at really. If its minimum for class (4 MB/s) that could be a bit touch and go. EXT 4 would be the best option for the 2nd partition
I recommend using an a2sd+ solution temporarily to see if the freezes go away
I would mind the lag, I didn`t get any lag using my card though, but just saying, would mind if it would be laggy, the real problem is the constant freezing I`ve had.
If it`ll freeze again, I think I`ll go back to stock Froyo, use Apps2SD and install only the bare minimum.
U know, another thing I never quite understood, I think hTC makes one of the best smartphones on the market, but they limit their possibilites with small batteries and very little internal storage space. What`s up with that?
rootSU said:
A class 2 is a definite no no for Data2sd IMHO.
I recommend using an a2sd+ solution temporarily to see if the freezes go away
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I'm not using Data2SD. I'm using A2sd+. Same partition that I used on my Hero, and now my Desire for the last 14 months. Still getting freezes.
I don't think it's a speed issue.
a2sd should be fine on a class 2. What a2sd solution is it? Did you move dalvik too?
Its just a logical approach thats needed.
1) Eliminate the SD card by not running from it.
2) Change the rom
3) RUU
If after all that it still freezes, sounds like HW....
rootSU said:
a2sd should be fine on a class 2. What a2sd solution is it? Did you move dalvik too?
Its just a logical approach thats needed.
1) Eliminate the SD card by not running from it.
2) Change the rom
3) RUU
If after all that it still freezes, sounds like HW....
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Yeah that's pretty much what I was thinking.
I'm currently on InsertCoin with A2SD+. I was on LeeDroid, then RunnyMede before that with the same issue. I did a full wipe when swapping Roms. Not sure about Dalvik- if it's done in the Rom then yes, otherwise I haven't consciously moved it.
1) I might try a different SD that i have lying around- Nandroid it etc.
2) As above, already done that.
3) Last resort. Although a rooted RUU wouldn't be a massive issue for a day or 2.
If it's HW, I better get some insurance.
Edited to add: my SD card is actually a class 4. SD card tests suggests read speeds of 19-20mb/s and write speeds of 7-9mb/s.
Fixed my issue. It's the Kernel. Apparently the latest 2 kernels have the ability to undervoltage when not in use. Unfortunately, this can also cause the lockups i've(and possibly you've) been experiencing.
The last kernel without this in is: 2.6.35.14_110911.
This has 100% solved my issue and I recommended flashing it if you still having the same issue.
Great.
If I get another freeze, I`ll flash the 2.6.35.14_110911 kernel u`ve recommended.
Thanks a lot, dude.
If ever in Romania, look me up, got a few beers with your name on them
LE
If it`s not too much to ask, could you possibly post a download link for that kernel version?
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Great.
If I get another freeze, I`ll flash the 2.6.35.14_110911 kernel u`ve recommended.
Thanks a lot, dude.
If ever in Romania, look me up, got a few beers with your name on them
LE
If it`s not too much to ask, could you possibly post a download link for that kernel version?
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No problem.
I've never been to Romania...
Kernel at the bottom of this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=18894823&postcount=10450
Did you flash the kernel while on existing ROM, or did you reflash de ROM as well?
And what ROM are u using with this kernel?
try using the earlier versions of super nova and data2sd, I also had the freezing problem but that was AFTER I upgraded to the newest version of supernova and data2sd
I`m using the 2.0.2.0 version, not the latest 2.4.0.0.
Earlier than 2.0.2.0?
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Did you flash the kernel while on existing ROM, or did you reflash de ROM as well?
And what ROM are u using with this kernel?
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Flashed straight over the top. Insertcoin ROM.
Use the latest Supernova and see. It has a pretty good kernel.
Hey all,
Hoping there are peeps that can help with some suggestions.
I was on .42, rooted with bloatware removed. I used Link2SD with 2 partitions (done in linux) for all my apps to be on the SD.
I did have a 16GB class 10, all was fine. I switched about roms etc (tried ICS and Jokerwild) but decided to come back to stock .42 until the official ICS comes out. I've got same as above now but with DoomKernel 3013
Anyways at time of coming off Jokerwild I purchased a sandisk 32GB class 4 and did all the Link2SD stuff when putting a clean .42 rom on.
But its sluggish as hell.
I THINK it's the SD card. But how to tell? Anyone recommend any apps (PC or android) that can test the card and also what rates I need to be looking for?
Or has anyone got some helpers for me?
Thanks in advance all
Try either of these 2:
http://www.appbrain.com/app/br.com.fast4ward.sdcardspeedtester
http://www.softpedia.com/get/System/System-Miscellaneous/H2testw.shtml
Hope this helps
I had bought the Desire in July 2011. I used it for sometime (3 months) until I got a new phone. The Desire was laying unused for more than a year now. It earlier had InsertCoin ROM and worked pretty well. Some months ago I installed 4EXT Recovery and BCM's ICS ROM. Played with it a for a day or two and it went into the drawer again never to be used, until now. I had installed a custom ROM only for the sake of the low internal memory issue. I had bought a SanDisk 16GB Class 4 card and made a 1GB EXT4 partition in it. The Insertcoin ROM worked okay and solved the memory problem.
When ICS came out, I wanted to try it. I looked for ICS ROMs for Desire and installed the BCM's ROM. This was a few months ago and I wasn't happy with it so turned it off and wanted to sell the Desire ever since. Recently, my friend became interested in it and bought it from me. He is a complete n00b when it comes to Custom ROM and things like that. I installed SpazeDog's ROM before giving it to him. The ROM presented some issues, it won't install apps like Facebook, Whatsapp. It said "Insufficient Memory Available". The ROM thread said that it came with some sort of m2sd script which was enabled by default. If it was then I was wondering why did I get the Insufficent memory issue. I disabled it rebooted it and the home button stopped working and all sorts of nasty things happened.
So, I need a stable ICS ROM which will show internal memory as 1GB and shouldn't throw any problems that my friend won't be able to handle.
I am back to the Android scene after more than a year. I was only familiar with a2sd and data2sd. This m2sd thing is new for me. I want a no-nonsense ROM that will show 1GB internal memory as opposed to the current one which shows a few MBs even though it claims that it has m2sd.
TL;DR
I sold my Desire to a friend and need a stable ICS ROM which won't have "Insufficient Memory" problems. I have 1GB EXT4 partition on a SanDisk 16GB Class4 card.
Use any rom you want + INT2EXT+
I dont think there is stable ICS/ROM though. (didnt tried them for quite some time, but pretty sure none of them is bug free - pretty sure all of them have camcorder with 15fps recording which is far from good as you can guess)
Or use amarullz ad2sdx,should work with most Roms.
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if you want stability, use qiss rom; i recommend JB version though as a2sd scripts don't work with ICS version(u can use link2sd from market as an alternative). m2sd works fine on JB version.
other ics/jb have all some issues(camera, notifications etc..) which are quite annoying for everyday use.
edit: if you want it to show 1gb internal storage; when installing m2sd, choose r-mount
And what about the radio? Which one are you using? I've found problems with them, but I'm not sure if the problems are because of the ROMs or because of the radios.
Thank you very much!
I've tried multiboot with the turbokernel but the ROM (first slot ICS ROM, second slot GB ROM) I put on the second slot was slow as hell and it was also crashing and soft-rebooting continuously I know that the speed of the ROM in the second slot depends on the speed of the SDcard and I was wondering how much fast should be a SDcard to run the ROM without lags ?
I've tried with a 4 class 16GB SDcard but I also have a 10 class SDcard but it has got just 8 GB of storage anyway can the 10 class SDcard run the ROMs on the second slot smoothly ?
I hope you can tell me this cuz I don't really want to test this since I use my 8GB sdcard on another phone and it will take me too much time to backup, test and eventually restore everything...I know I'm lazy
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I've tried multiboot with the turbokernel but the ROM (first slot ICS ROM, second slot GB ROM) I put on the second slot was slow as hell and it was also crashing and soft-rebooting continuously I know that the speed of the ROM in the second slot depends on the speed of the SDcard and I was wondering how much fast should be a SDcard to run the ROM without lags ?
I've tried with a 4 class 16GB SDcard but I also have a 10 class SDcard but it has got just 8 GB of storage anyway can the 10 class SDcard run the ROMs on the second slot smoothly ?
I hope you can tell me this cuz I don't really want to test this since I use my 8GB sdcard on another phone and it will take me too much time to backup, test and eventually restore everything...I know I'm lazy
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Yes with 10class sd card u will have smooth rom on other slots
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raminta said:
Yes with 10class sd card u will have smooth rom on other slots
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Uhm, ok, I'm very curious to see how this will work so I'm definitely gonna try this. I'll report back my experience for who's interested to this :good:
Ok finished testing. Tried the following ROMs:
Slot1: ICS Stock ROM: Ultimate HD v6 by smokerman
Slot2: GB Stock ROM: BOS by Pizza_Dox
Lag on second slot is much reduced as expected (il still laggy on the Settings menu, don't understand why), no forced reboots. Tried GTA VC but the game wasn't enjoyable (1,4 GHz OC): it was laggy most of the time but on some places it was running without any lag.
So I think that the best thing to do is always putting the gaming ROM on the first slot and the daily use ROM on the second since it will run smoothly enough if you use a 10class microSD.