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Just got my desire friday. It's awesome! But the lags are killing me! I'd like JIT, SetCPU, power managment, cool themes and better music player, that's all! It should be easy, just to hack android to get access to ROOT...
But seriously, I don't want to lose any settings and apps I've set-up. Also the process is complicated, and there is nothing like "one click ROOT access". Although I already have Android SDK(for testing purposes), I am maybe just a bit lazy
So what do you think, to root or not to root.
had to bump so fast!? is here anyone reading this?!
Desire forums seem kinda dead today. Everyone's probably got the World Cup fever lol
I personally would say no, but that's my opinion - I wouldn't wanna risk bricking my new device, I should also say though that I have no previous Android experience, so I don't know about you. So I'm waiting, hopefully an official release isn't too far off, and if my carrier doesn't release it quick, I will be goldcarding
I would go ahead and do it, even though the above poster stated that there is a strong possibility of bricking your device, this is true, but there have been recent developments made for this kind of issue - there are now complete guides in the ROM dev section detailing how to unbrick your device, or even run recovery from your phone without connecting to the PC lessening your chances of bricking it, and there is a Recovery mod also, so I would say it's safe to go ahead and root/flash.
Ok il'll try it, but i have some questions:
Will I lose any data or applications? I can't backup, I have 1gb left on my hdd.
Will I have to do factory or soft reset after flashing to custom rom?
Does flashing relace or "update" the system?
Is desire really having the CPU clocked at 1ghz or is it 720mhz like in HD2? Will overclocking it to 1ghz make the battery last less? How much then? Can you overclocking the graphics chip?
Thank you in advance.
Dany0 said:
Ok il'll try it, but i have some questions:
Will I lose any data or applications? I can't backup, I have 1gb left on my hdd.
Will I have to do factory or soft reset after flashing to custom rom?
Does flashing relace or "update" the system?
Is desire really having the CPU clocked at 1ghz or is it 720mhz like in HD2? Will overclocking it to 1ghz make the battery last less? How much then? Can you overclocking the graphics chip?
Thank you in advance.
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Yes, if you attempt to a flash a custom rom that includes Apps2SD/A2SD, then you should backup the data on your SD card. The reason for this is because, with many (if not all) custom roms, excluding the Froyo roms, come with Apps2SD baked/cookef into the rom, requiring you to partition the SD card (which will also format your SD card, wiping everything) after flashing a custom rom. new rom then this will remove all data and apps, but nothing will be deleted on the sd card. I suggest you try backing up your sd card data to some storage media before attempting root and flashing to another rom.
You will notice that before flashing the rom of your choice, it is advised to wipe storage, cache, etc before flashing in recovery mode. After flashing, you can always perform a hard reset if you like, especially if you encounter any niggling bugs.
Yes, flashing will replace your stock rom image with the custom rom image.
You can flash Richard Trip's modified kernal, which allows you to perform undervolting and overclocking of the processor to run at faster or slower speeds. Overclocking will result in better performance but drain the battery quicker, Underclocking will save battery life.
Please read the second link in my sig for an in-depth explanation for rooting, flashing, and Apps2SD.
Note: if your phone is network branded then you will also be required a Gold Card and have an additional Micro SD card.
Note: if your rom comes with Apps2SD preinstalled, then do not install Apps2SD, only partition your sd card after flashing thr rom while still in recovery mode.
The process is:
Backup
Create Gold Card (if necessary)
Root
Place rom in root of sd card
Boot into recovery
Wipe everything
Flash rom in recovery
Partition sd card in recovery
Reboot
Restore backup to sd card.
That's all just too complicated, why is there no wizard application for it? I may make one, but it's still too complicated.
Can't you just open up cmd and type login: root pass: root?
To be honest, it's not too complicated, daunting at first, but when you read the nimbu guide (see my sig for Windows only method) for example, it makes perfect sense and it easy to follow. Just try it step-by-step and you will do it no probs.
All you have to remember is...
Dont install Apps2SD if it is already included in the custom rom you want to flash.
Create a Gold Card only if your phone is software branded. If it is generic, then you will not require a Gold Card.
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Ok I get myself a class 6(maybe class 10) 8gb card and try it, then I'll pick up wxPython and try to make a wizard
Just to add, for the Gold Card itself, you dont need to buy a large capacity sd card, even a 2GB one will do fine.
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I will gold card my old Nokia 5310 2gb card(although it has some undeletable extras... hmm..) or the one shipped with the phone. I want a lot space for movies, music and apps. So 8GB will be fine.
And most importantly I don't want ANY lag. **** driving me NUTS!
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Just saw the tut again, hey this should be easy! K going on...
Dany0 said:
I will gold card my old Nokia 5310 2gb card(although it has some undeletable extras... hmm..) or the one shipped with the phone. I want a lot space for movies, music and apps. So 8GB will be fine.
And most importantly I don't want ANY lag. **** driving me NUTS!
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Just saw the tut again, hey this should be easy! K going on...
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Ok matey, that sounds absolutely fine. You could even go for a Class 2 SD Card. I currently have a Transcend 8GB Class 6 but to be honest, I have not really noticed any differences in speed with the applications.
Yes, it's not so bad when you read the guide first, it's looks a lot at first but it's just because all the steps are appropriately broken down, which makes things easier to understand. Give it a stab and if you get any problems, just post back here and I will help you out, if necessary.
Good luck
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It's awesome! But the lags are killing me!
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is it a branded phone?
I have no lag
in future froyo 2.2 will there be root option?
I doubt it, HTC and Google would not want to have you "hacking" their phones... not that we do that on XDA
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jimlad said:
is it a branded phone?
I have no lag
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unbranded
lagging everywhere, menus, camera, gallery, videos, games(especially), apps, market, browser, settings, sdcard explorer, music player, and when you swipe over the trackball in home screens fast... LAG
Okay I got stuck at error 170, where do I download the drivers? I don't even know which do I need, do I need the HTC Sync or what? Or should I uninstall some drivers?
thanks
Yes, you need HTC Sync installed (this is on your sd card or you can download the latest version via HTC website). Also, ensure that you have USB debugging enabled (Menu > Settings > Applications > Development).
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Hi All,
my 2p worth (for what it's worth)
I rooted my desire and installed apps2sd and all was going well, until I discovered dust (a lot)under my screen and it has to go back to voda.
As there still isnt an RUU for voda uk I have had to install a generic wwe rom. It took me 6 hrs, and the fantastic help I received at modaco, to unroot and reflash the rom.
To say it was brown trouser time is an understatement lol
The only reason I rooted was for apps2sd and seeing as FroYo is going to include that facility, I don't think I will root again in the future.
I'm not saying don't root, but just make sure you can unroot if you need to.
I hope this helps?
Daz.
I rooted the same day it came out but only because i wanted paid apps available. And now its there i definately do not wanted to unroot
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got 155 unkown error
What!?
EDIT:
not bricked.... phew
EDIT2:
Okay got to the wiping, tried to do the flash but it said I had no zip file on the sd card, so I thought that in the end I need a goldcard, btw can someone tell me what happens if you have branded phone but no goldcard? thanks, so back to what I was writing, so I downloadedthe hex editor, almost got to inserting the image, when i remembered that I already formatted the card already... boom! Of course it wasn't there! soo.. loading up hoping that FAT32 is still okay...
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phew... ROOTING!! yay ^^
Hey, XDA
I'm having strange issues with fresh 16 GB microSDHC (Class 4) and Starburst ROM (Lite 1.3.3.3), both with Data2SD and without it.
I get up to 2200 in Quadrant Advanced, XviD and FLAC seems to play fine, but actual performance is much worse. Sometimes it won't ask for PIN, won't turn on WiFi, fail to wake up, apps load very slowly. No F/Cs, luckily.
That card doesn't have any manufacturer info written on it (bought it in store however, packaging said "Nokia", who knows). It seems to work fine, full 16 GB, connected to PC, though, no write speed issues, too.
Finally, I've restored to stock 2.2 ROM so as to exclude phone hardware and flaky sdcard issues. It works like a charm, so problem seems to be in software.
Also, Starburst ROM has worked fine for months on stock 4 GB SanDisk (Class 4), including Data2SD feature (the best thing made for Desire, hands down).
If DroidZone or Sibere sees this thread, big ups, guys - you've made one of the best ROM / feature for Desire
If you have some ideas of what I might've done wrong or whether it could be an issue with Starburst ROM, I'd be thankful for some clarification.
P.S. Running with S-OFF & ClockworkMod 2.5.1.8
P.S. I'd put this in the Starburst ROM thread, but can't due to this being my first post.
Hey cralias,
you said that "Starburst ROM has worked fine for months on stock 4 GB SanDisk (Class 4), including Data2SD feature". Is it the same rom and the same data2sd, which you have installed at the new card? Nothing changed?
That was an older version, 1.2 Lite (I think?) when there was only one Data2SD version available.
However, 1.3.3.3 Lite seems to work fine with the 4 GB card, both with and without Data2SD (Uberfast edition).
I will try Standard Edition today, to see if maybe updated kernel fixes stuff...
cralias said:
Hey, XDA
I'm having strange issues with fresh 16 GB microSDHC (Class 4) and Starburst ROM (Lite 1.3.3.3), both with Data2SD and without it.
I get up to 2200 in Quadrant Advanced, XviD and FLAC seems to play fine, but actual performance is much worse. Sometimes it won't ask for PIN, won't turn on WiFi, fail to wake up, apps load very slowly. No F/Cs, luckily.
That card doesn't have any manufacturer info written on it (bought it in store however, packaging said "Nokia", who knows). It seems to work fine, full 16 GB, connected to PC, though, no write speed issues, too.
Finally, I've restored to stock 2.2 ROM so as to exclude phone hardware and flaky sdcard issues. It works like a charm, so problem seems to be in software.
Also, Starburst ROM has worked fine for months on stock 4 GB SanDisk (Class 4), including Data2SD feature (the best thing made for Desire, hands down).
If DroidZone or Sibere sees this thread, big ups, guys - you've made one of the best ROM / feature for Desire
If you have some ideas of what I might've done wrong or whether it could be an issue with Starburst ROM, I'd be thankful for some clarification.
P.S. Running with S-OFF & ClockworkMod 2.5.1.8
P.S. I'd put this in the Starburst ROM thread, but can't due to this being my first post.
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When you very first installed starburst did you restart right away and install the data2sd installer?
I been running starburst now for over 1 month and had no problems also using a 16gb PNY sd card from play.com
shankly1985 said:
When you very first installed starburst did you restart right away and install the data2sd installer?
I been running starburst now for over 1 month and had no problems also using a 16gb PNY sd card from play.com
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Yup. Didn't configure Wifi nor Google account, just Language, Timezone and then reboot to recovery.
No luck with 1.3.3.5 either.
Could it be an issue with FAT32 allocation unit size? I've set 8K (using EASEUS here, it's default).
cralias said:
Yup. Didn't configure Wifi nor Google account, just Language, Timezone and then reboot to recovery.
No luck with 1.3.3.5 either.
Could it be an issue with FAT32 allocation unit size? I've set 8K (using EASEUS here, it's default).
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Try using the newer data 2sd scripts with xe or we. they're on the beta section. Try a re partition and install the rom followed by new script. Should eliminate lags for slow cards
Swyped with my Starburst based Desire. Forgive any typos!
No luck.
Well, I've come to a conclusion that all problems come from a flaky SD card, whatsoever. Phone doesn't like it. I will use it for some other purpose until it dies of old age.
Just another lesson for me not to buy crap at stores.
Thanks everyone.
And once again a special one for Droidzone and all involved for Starburst ROM/Data2SD. This thing roxx0rz
Hi Cralias, you've already drawn the correct conclusion, but just to reassure you, I've had exactly the same kinds of problems with Starburst and kingston sdhc cards. Starburst worked fine on the sandisk that came with the phone but not on two brand new kingston 16gb class 4 cards. Got a sandisk 16gb class 4 and Starburst was fine.
You're right, Droidzone and Sibre desrve mad props for this ROM, it's how the device should have come out of the box.
As you've correctly deduced, the key to making Starburst reach it's potential is a reliable and quick SDHC card.
Booce
Hi all,
I've had my EVO 4g for nearly 2 years now and recently stepped up to the 3D.
Over the last summer I had a terrible problem with my EVO rebooting using two different MicroSD 8 GB cards taking it into the Sprint store they said both cards are defective. So I bought a 4GB card and it worked nearly flawlessly since then (maybe a reboot once a month)
I had not rooted my phone until last fall when I bought a WIFI only iPad and needed to get the wireless tether option enabled...
Not knowing much about rooting or flashing ROMS and any of that stuff, I followed a sticky guide to rooting and went with the Warm 2.2 ROM from last fall.
When I got my EVO 3D I decided to sell my EVO 4G to my 20 year old granddaughter, I did a Wipe and installed CleanROM 2.0 which had rave reviews and I thought it would be as close to stock as possible.
I hadn't gotten around to wiping the SD card is it is 3/4 filled with my junk on it still.
2 days into her having the phone it is rebooting a dozen times a day for her.
Not good. I'm not sure if it's the new ROM or a corrupted spot on the SD card now?
If I just reflash the CleanROM 2.0 and then have the phone format the SD card might that clear it up?
No point doing a nandroid backup since that would have all my apps that wouldn't work for her, correct?
She really doesn't care about it being rooted, so what would be the easiest way to get it work for her in a stable way?
I apologize in advance if the solution seems easy to people hear, it seems complicated to me.
Thanks Crodley
Personally I would do a complete wipe and do a fresh partition on the SD card to remove anything you had on there. After that I would suggest installing MikG 3.11 as it is probably the most stable of the Sense ROMS.
I try other ROMs but keep going back to MikG as it performs flawlessly for me with no restarts or crashes of any kind.
ItsLasher said:
Personally I would do a complete wipe and do a fresh partition on the SD card to remove anything you had on there. After that I would suggest installing MikG 3.11 as it is probably the most stable of the Sense ROMS.
I try other ROMs but keep going back to MikG as it performs flawlessly for me with no restarts or crashes of any kind.
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Sounds like a good plan. Partition the SD card? Not sure how to do that part. I can do a google I guess.
Thanks
Crodley said:
Sounds like a good plan. Partition the SD card? Not sure how to do that part. I can do a google I guess.
Thanks
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The option is in the recovery but there are some easy to follow guides around the site.
Here are the basic settings and it's pretty straight forward in the recovery.
- Swap partition = 0mb ( If you must have it but doubtful, 32mb should be enough.)
- Ext partition = 512mb to 1gb (MAX 2Gb if you have loads of APPs)
- Upgrade ext2 to an ext3 partition (but not 4).
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GUIDE <<< It's quick and easy.
ItsLasher said:
The option is in the recovery but there are some easy to follow guides around the site.
Here are the basic settings and it's pretty straight forward in the recovery.
GUIDE <<< It's quick and easy.
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Thanks yet again, I just woke up and am off to work, I'll give it a try went I get home and let you know how it went.
Crodley
You shouldn't need to partition the card if you are going to have mikg on there.
It sounds like your granddaughter doesn't need anything that would require any extra steps on her part.
Just reformat the card so that its a fresh start. Put any ROM on there (mikg is pretty much maintenance free). And boot it up and test it out before you give it to her...
A partition would be necessary only if you or your granddaughter have a huge amount of apps. Something tells me that she's not a power user...
~ I'm a fungi
Your other option is that if she isn't going to use any root functions, just unroot it for her. You don't have to bother with s-on or relocking the bootloader, just run an RUU to get it back to stock. This should eliminate any problems, unless the rebooting issue is a hardware problem. You also don't have to worry about her messing anything up with root, since she won't have that ability.
Of course if she uses any of the root functions - wireless tether, overclocking/undervolting, removing bloatware, etc, then this isn't the way to go. You could just flash a rooted stock rom as well.
In my opinion, if someone doesn't know what to do with root, or if they don't use it, they shouldn't have it. It'll just complicate things.
Thanks for all the information, I wiped the SD card and installed the Miks rom so far all smooth as silk.
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Thanks for all the information, I wiped the SD card and installed the Miks rom so far all smooth as silk.
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Nope still rebooting about a dozen times a day, we're going to swap the 4gb sd card with an old 8gb card and see if that helps...
Well, it seems the 4GB card was the culprit. After swapping in another card, no reboots. Yay!
Hi guys !
I have a little problem with my Arc S.
In short: i used stock GB (2.3.4 0.62) for last 7 mounths with attached 8gb microsd card.
Last week ago i bought a new microsd (sandisk mobile ultra 32gb) and I reached a conclusion that i should finally change my ROM.
So I made a downgrade to GB (0.42), root and install cwm.
I found a cool ROM (X-gamer for GB).
Everything was great ... for about 2 days :/
On avarage 4-5 times daily all my aplications are dying. The last one is proces "system" and my Xperia making reboot.
I tried to use another ROM, but I had the same problem.
I lost somewhere my old microsd so I cannot check whether it is a problem of card or phone.
I'm certain in 99% that mirosd is ok, because I put it into the PC and everything was ok, always.
Sometimes phone and card are working all day without any restart ...
Can some1 help me? Is it possible that something is wrong with hardware ?
Sorry for my english..
Chinchill4 said:
Hi guys !
I have a little problem with my Arc S.
In short: i used stock GB (2.3.4 0.62) for last 7 mounths with attached 8gb microsd card.
Last week ago i bought a new microsd (sandisk mobile ultra 32gb) and I reached a conclusion that i should finally change my ROM.
So I made a downgrade to GB (0.42), root and install cwm.
I found a cool ROM (X-gamer for GB).
Everything was great ... for about 2 days :/
On avarage 4-5 times daily all my aplications are dying. The last one is proces "system" and my Xperia making reboot.
I tried to use another ROM, but I had the same problem.
I lost somewhere my old microsd so I cannot check whether it is a problem of card or phone.
I'm certain in 99% that mirosd is ok, because I put it into the PC and everything was ok, always.
Sometimes phone and card are working all day without any restart ...
Can some1 help me? Is it possible that something is wrong with hardware ?
Sorry for my english..
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What kernel are you using (and what Rom)? ----> Kernel and Rom must be compatible with each other, but there are Roms and kernels not so good
Did you overclocked your phone`s CPU ??? ----> Overclocking CPU too much (Arc recommended is max 1,2 GHz and ARC S 1,4 GHz) may result in system rebooting
Are you using v6 supercharger ??? -----> If using supercharger multitasking is not recommended, Dalvik is instructed to be very aggressive killing apps for having as free Ram free.
Hi everyone, I've recently done an update that took my device to MH1. It took a while and I thought it was 4.2.2 but it wasn't unfortunately. I heard the Russian version of 4.2.2 was out for a while so just wondering has everyone else got it and its just me without? I'm on 4.1.2 I9082ZTAMH1 atm, no idea what that means but I'm guessing its my current version?
Also, there are many games that I can't get to even install such as GTA 3, Real Racing 2, Asphalt 8 as it says its not compatible but it should be. Another thing is, I'm running out of internal storage for apps and have a 32GB Micro SD card, is there any way I can move the apps to the SD like I could do with my previous phone (motorola atrix). Additionally, is the 4.2.2 update going to solve this? Or am I going to have to root my phone or install a custom ROM? If so, which one do you recommend that has most/everything working?
Thanks in advance,
Anthony.
Go to the games hub thread here as all your apps are games. All are discussed there.
4.2.2 is good for gaming
Use gl2sd or external to internal or else, u need to be rooted
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