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Hi there,
I've been using Froyo 2.2 for some time but had some SD Card issues (Unexpected SD Card removal) and decided to check if flashing a new ROM will do any good. I've installed Cyanogen Mod 7 but after using it for half a day I wanted stock Sense back so flashed AuraxTSense v8.3. It looks nice, works quite fast at the beginning (and not knowing why it becomes slower after some time - observed during mass sms deletion) but boots ~7 mins - that's way tooooo long. Which one should I try next? Or maybe there is something wrong I've done while flashing? Wiped everything but dalvik before flashing.
LeeDroid's i believe is the best sense rom.
Sent from my LeeDroided Desire HD
Boots 7 MINS?
For the first time or always?
Because if you install anew ROM, it will take some time to rebulid the cache and get ready, so 7 mins at the first boot is normal.
But if it boots 7 mins always, you've done something wrong.
Also LeeDroid is fast. Boots up very quickly - at least for me it did.
Indeed it boots slower than Leedroid, but not 7 minutes. Both are good ROMs, but the current (and some of the previous) version of ROM has some memory leaks reported from some users including me. I switched to Aura in hope to find remedy for this, and been good so far.
Also both have issues with the Internet app, googling freezes the browser and it force closes itself after a minute.
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yeah, it was first boot, other took something like 3-4 minutes, and that's still too long :/
what if my Desire is S-On even if I have rooted it with Unrevoked? also, Hboot is 0.93. does it make any difference when trying to flash different roms?
EDIT:
ok, trying to flash LeeDroid 2.3d A2SD, will see how long will it take.
EDIT2:
16 mins of first boot, keep fingers crossed for my problems with unexpected SD removal
I've flashed LeeDroid 2.3d A2SD for the second time and there's no A2SD actually!! or I'am so tired that I can't find settings to force apps to install in SD. all apps install in internal storage and only some can be moved to SD... sooooooo annoying, it's 3:50 am here and I am so fuc*ing tired but have to have phone fully working today :/ aaaaargh!!!!
ReflexTSense HD is pretty nice and fast
got it on SD too so I'll probably try it now as AuraxTSense had A2SD brilliantly working.
How do you inspect if a2sd is working? Coz I think u r doing it wrong. Install Quick system info and check what it says under a2sd storage and if it slowly decreases when you install apps, which means it is working. You don't have to set default install location anywhere, the script does that for you.
What you are referring to here, is Froyo's built-in a2sd which requires the app to be optimized for app2sd, that's why only some of your apps seem to be on the SD card. Furthermore, it will transfer the apps to FAT32 partition, that you don't want for it to do since Android first loads apps which need to be loaded at startup, and afterwards it mounts the SD card, which will lead to some apps failing to start after boot.
a2sd tricks the phone into thinking that ext partition is it's internal memory. Froyo app2sd != a2sd script, don't confuse those two, they are not the same.
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Apps2sd is working perfect in leedroid. Your reading is what fails.
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with regard to first boot im always pleasantly surprised with AOSP roms esp Oxygen and Gingervillain ...they boot very fast and have gprs configured and working from the very beginning !
GV booted really fast for me.
stability is another issue
oops sorry - i read the title of the thread properly now....you meant sense roms....please ignore
leedroid roms do not take too long to boot. ap2sd feature work 100 percent..i guess the no ap2sd rom would boot up faster than the one with.
starburst is the best so far av got 700mb internal memory and rom is super fast
ok guys, it was my mistake (or rather lack of knowledge), so I'm coming back to LeeDroid. but will try No-A2SD first because I think those SD Card issues are not gone so moving Dalvik to SD would be risky.
i know this question has been asked many a tyms ,....but still i want to start using 1 stable rom for a long tym.
..i jus want to know the most stable desire froyo or gingerbread rom with sence or without and how to get maximum space in my phone using d2sd or the other ways ...m pretty much a nube.. so please ..tel me... which when why and how...
...it wl be greatly appreciated......
.. thanks in advance..
insertcoin 2.0.1 hd rom, very stable, been running it since it was released without a single problem.
easy to setup your sdcard for it.
use mini tool partition wizard
http://www.partitionwizard.com/free-partition-manager.html
large fat32 partition using all your space bar 1.4gb
1gb primary ext3 partition
300mb primary ext3 partition
100mb linux swap partition
Then flash your rom
simples
thanks mate..!!!
Tried to reply to your pm but its not working for some reason..
but heres what i was trying to send..
if you have set it up as stated and it has .94gb of internal memory then its already working fine..
The scripts are already within the rom and it sets up the data2ext on the first boot.
if you want more internal memory than that you need to make a bigger 1st ext partition than 1gb to start with, but its not recommended, and 1gb should be more than enough for app storage, i have like 300 apps and still 300mb free space.
All apps installed are sutomatically installed on the ext partition from first boot
I would recommend Redux as your ROM.
It is fast, stable and I have not had a single issue with it.
All of the info you need on App2SD+ is available through this webiste, but you are going to have to read a fair amount of information (some conflicting) to work out what is best for you.
I would watch the video tutorial http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016084
Always do a Nandroid backup (boot from recovery, backup) before flashing, especially between different ROMs (I even do it between releases of Redux just to be safe).
Cheers
If you haven't chosen already you should consider going with an RCMixHD rom or perhaps SupeROM HD
There are no best ROM for Desire.
Every ROM has its limitation and good side.
Try them one by one and decide. I know this will take longer but this is the best way.
Info:
I am using InsertCoin 2.0.1 Data2Ext and have been using InsertCoin since it was still called Baadnewz 1.3.
Before that, I have been using LeeDroids, RCmixHD, RCs Z, DeFrost, and one of the MIUI (I don't like MIUI)...InsertCoin is the best for me after trying those ROMs.
Same for me here, InsertCoin is very fast (try Data++), stable and reliable. I've been using it for months now after trying out over a dozen roms.....
But as already stated, there is no such thing as a 'best' rom. Everybody has a different taste, invest some time an find your favorite.
RCMixHD gets my vote
i think RcMixHD is the best Rom.
I use it since 2MOnth and had no Problems until now.
aaa said:
There are no best ROM for Desire.
Every ROM has its limitation and good side.
Try them one by one and decide. I know this will take longer but this is the best way.
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That's the only truth
Try many and give yourself what you like
For me, Oxygen is the best 1
As a newbie I've tried a few out, and just put leedroid 2.4 on and will hopefully be sticking with it.
I was just after more space really (and improved battery would be a bonus). I tried StarBurst as it seemed the best for space and it was great for a couple of days, but then it rebooted randomly and just about everything I tried to run FC'd. As far as I could tell it was something to do with Data2SD not being stable enough and due to my limited skills I had to abandon it.
To sum up, as a newbie I found I was best off sticking with the tried and tested ones that use A2SD as they're more stable. Also tried Teppics which was good until I started playing with things I didn't understand (Kernels) and broke it!
Just my 2p worth as a beginner!
Miui 1.4.1 for the moment the best rom out there
After i rooted i have tried many roms
but after a more then a half year with leedroids rom without any problem i would suggest it.
It has decent speed is very stable and sensebased if you prefer it
Try some roms and see which is the best for you.
If you make a nandroid backup you can switch very fast back
Hey, XDA
I'm having strange issues with fresh 16 GB microSDHC (Class 4) and Starburst ROM (Lite 1.3.3.3), both with Data2SD and without it.
I get up to 2200 in Quadrant Advanced, XviD and FLAC seems to play fine, but actual performance is much worse. Sometimes it won't ask for PIN, won't turn on WiFi, fail to wake up, apps load very slowly. No F/Cs, luckily.
That card doesn't have any manufacturer info written on it (bought it in store however, packaging said "Nokia", who knows). It seems to work fine, full 16 GB, connected to PC, though, no write speed issues, too.
Finally, I've restored to stock 2.2 ROM so as to exclude phone hardware and flaky sdcard issues. It works like a charm, so problem seems to be in software.
Also, Starburst ROM has worked fine for months on stock 4 GB SanDisk (Class 4), including Data2SD feature (the best thing made for Desire, hands down).
If DroidZone or Sibere sees this thread, big ups, guys - you've made one of the best ROM / feature for Desire
If you have some ideas of what I might've done wrong or whether it could be an issue with Starburst ROM, I'd be thankful for some clarification.
P.S. Running with S-OFF & ClockworkMod 2.5.1.8
P.S. I'd put this in the Starburst ROM thread, but can't due to this being my first post.
Hey cralias,
you said that "Starburst ROM has worked fine for months on stock 4 GB SanDisk (Class 4), including Data2SD feature". Is it the same rom and the same data2sd, which you have installed at the new card? Nothing changed?
That was an older version, 1.2 Lite (I think?) when there was only one Data2SD version available.
However, 1.3.3.3 Lite seems to work fine with the 4 GB card, both with and without Data2SD (Uberfast edition).
I will try Standard Edition today, to see if maybe updated kernel fixes stuff...
cralias said:
Hey, XDA
I'm having strange issues with fresh 16 GB microSDHC (Class 4) and Starburst ROM (Lite 1.3.3.3), both with Data2SD and without it.
I get up to 2200 in Quadrant Advanced, XviD and FLAC seems to play fine, but actual performance is much worse. Sometimes it won't ask for PIN, won't turn on WiFi, fail to wake up, apps load very slowly. No F/Cs, luckily.
That card doesn't have any manufacturer info written on it (bought it in store however, packaging said "Nokia", who knows). It seems to work fine, full 16 GB, connected to PC, though, no write speed issues, too.
Finally, I've restored to stock 2.2 ROM so as to exclude phone hardware and flaky sdcard issues. It works like a charm, so problem seems to be in software.
Also, Starburst ROM has worked fine for months on stock 4 GB SanDisk (Class 4), including Data2SD feature (the best thing made for Desire, hands down).
If DroidZone or Sibere sees this thread, big ups, guys - you've made one of the best ROM / feature for Desire
If you have some ideas of what I might've done wrong or whether it could be an issue with Starburst ROM, I'd be thankful for some clarification.
P.S. Running with S-OFF & ClockworkMod 2.5.1.8
P.S. I'd put this in the Starburst ROM thread, but can't due to this being my first post.
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When you very first installed starburst did you restart right away and install the data2sd installer?
I been running starburst now for over 1 month and had no problems also using a 16gb PNY sd card from play.com
shankly1985 said:
When you very first installed starburst did you restart right away and install the data2sd installer?
I been running starburst now for over 1 month and had no problems also using a 16gb PNY sd card from play.com
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Yup. Didn't configure Wifi nor Google account, just Language, Timezone and then reboot to recovery.
No luck with 1.3.3.5 either.
Could it be an issue with FAT32 allocation unit size? I've set 8K (using EASEUS here, it's default).
cralias said:
Yup. Didn't configure Wifi nor Google account, just Language, Timezone and then reboot to recovery.
No luck with 1.3.3.5 either.
Could it be an issue with FAT32 allocation unit size? I've set 8K (using EASEUS here, it's default).
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Try using the newer data 2sd scripts with xe or we. they're on the beta section. Try a re partition and install the rom followed by new script. Should eliminate lags for slow cards
Swyped with my Starburst based Desire. Forgive any typos!
No luck.
Well, I've come to a conclusion that all problems come from a flaky SD card, whatsoever. Phone doesn't like it. I will use it for some other purpose until it dies of old age.
Just another lesson for me not to buy crap at stores.
Thanks everyone.
And once again a special one for Droidzone and all involved for Starburst ROM/Data2SD. This thing roxx0rz
Hi Cralias, you've already drawn the correct conclusion, but just to reassure you, I've had exactly the same kinds of problems with Starburst and kingston sdhc cards. Starburst worked fine on the sandisk that came with the phone but not on two brand new kingston 16gb class 4 cards. Got a sandisk 16gb class 4 and Starburst was fine.
You're right, Droidzone and Sibre desrve mad props for this ROM, it's how the device should have come out of the box.
As you've correctly deduced, the key to making Starburst reach it's potential is a reliable and quick SDHC card.
Booce
Hey guys.
A while ago I`ve rooted my hTC Desire and did an S-OFF, to be able to install custom ROMs.
I`ve "tested" a few custom ROMs, but none of them seemed to be stable.
Currently I`m on SuperNova_Classic_2.0.2.0 with built in Data2SD (iData2SD)(the idea is to have a stable rooted ROM, with DATA2SD and Sense), but every time I flash the rom, then install my fav apps, the phone keeps freezing at certain points, sometimes it runs OK for a week - with no freezing - other times it freezes in the first couple of days after ROM flash. I`ve tried not to install that many apps, but I`m still facing this freeze problem.
Has anyone experienced this before?
Here are the steps I took for ROM flashing
1. Created a 1GB ext4 partition on SD-CARD, preceded by a FAT32 partition(as required in the tutorial of Supernova)
2. Rebooted into Recovery - wiped data/factory reset; wiped cache partition; wiped Dalvik Cache
3. Installed the ROM zip file from SD-CARD; on first boot, except for the Wi-Fi connection, I haven`t touched anything(google accounts etc. - skipped all steps - ), waited for the system to stabilyze, then did a normal reboot in order for the DATA2SD function to work. After next reboot, DATA2SD was working properly(I even had the pink LED light up), Storage Information was showing the 1GB ext partition as an internal memory.
4. Installed all my apps, configured phone, widgets etc.
This way, at a certain point, the phone simply freezes, have to remove the battery to be able to use it again.
Here are my phone specs:
Bravo PVT1 SHIP S-OFF
HBOOT-6.93.1002
MICROP-031d
TOUCH PANel-SYNT0101
RADIO-5.17.05.23
ClockworkMod Recovery v5.0.2.0
Transcend class 4 - 16GB microSD card
I`ve searched and searched on xda-developers, but haven`t found an answer for my problem, yet.
What am I doing wrong here?
Any help would be DEEPLY appreciated !!!
This is no help to you.... but I'm having exactly the same issue.
Sometimes it freezes when starting a game, but most of the time it won't unlock(ie phone unresponsive when I try to wake it).
This is not ROM related as it happened on several different Roms, with a full wipe between. I'm not overclocking.
The only things I can think of are:
-Partially corrupt ext partition on SD.
-failing hardware.
-some other sw issue ie radio(which has worked for a while before this started happening).
Thanks for your reply, Shaun - it does help, at least now I`m not alone in this
You`re right, it`t not ROM related, I`ve tried different ROMs myself, same problem.
I`ve also tried another SD CARD (class 2).
I don`t think it`s the radio, I have the latest version, the version required on Supernova tutorial for best compliance.
I really don`t want to believe that it`s a hardware fault, as I didn`t overclock either and always read/followed the exact right/official steps in root-ing/flashing ROMs.
I`ve reinstalled Supernova now, with absolutely no additional installation of fav apps. Going on 2 days with no freezeing, so far.
I`ll keep post-ing if any new developments occur.
Cheers.
You've not installed any apps at all? hmmm.
When you do re-install your apps(I assume from Titanium backup?), it'd be interesting to see if it starts freezing again.
This would then suggest either a dodgy app that we both have, or titanium backup itself causing the issue.
What SD card specs?
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What SD card specs?
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I'm using the same card that i've had for the last 18 months-
it's an 8gb class 2 card with 768mb partition, the rest is Fat32.
I`ve started reinstalling some of the apps, the most important ones, like iGo, YahooMessenger, YahooMail, etc., but didn`t use Titanium Backup, installed them manually using Market.
So far, so good, no freezing.
My SD CARD specs: Transcend Class 4 - 16GB; 1GB ext2 partition for apps, and the rest is FAT32.
LE
I could be wrong, but from what I`ve seen so far, I would recommend NOT to use widgets that require superuser permissions. Also, before flashing any pre-rooted ROM, be sure to turn "Signature verification" OFF, in the phone`s "Recovery" screen options. If your ROM has any kind of "Data2SD" scripts integrated, after flashing ROM - at first boot, DO NOT configure anything (google account, sync, etc.), DO NOT download/install any apps yet, ONLY enter the Wi-Fi settings(if that is the case); leave the system to stabylize, then do a normal reboot(if the ROM supports "Fast boot" - turn it OFF before rebooting). At second normal boot, the DATA2SD scripts should kick in ( u should see the phone`s notification LED turn to: pink or blue - depending on the script used by the ROM).
A class 2 is a definite no no for Data2sd IMHO. Class 4 is debatable. I had a bit of lag with an older version of data2sd on a class 4. It may be better now, Depends what speed the card writes at really. If its minimum for class (4 MB/s) that could be a bit touch and go. EXT 4 would be the best option for the 2nd partition
I recommend using an a2sd+ solution temporarily to see if the freezes go away
I would mind the lag, I didn`t get any lag using my card though, but just saying, would mind if it would be laggy, the real problem is the constant freezing I`ve had.
If it`ll freeze again, I think I`ll go back to stock Froyo, use Apps2SD and install only the bare minimum.
U know, another thing I never quite understood, I think hTC makes one of the best smartphones on the market, but they limit their possibilites with small batteries and very little internal storage space. What`s up with that?
rootSU said:
A class 2 is a definite no no for Data2sd IMHO.
I recommend using an a2sd+ solution temporarily to see if the freezes go away
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I'm not using Data2SD. I'm using A2sd+. Same partition that I used on my Hero, and now my Desire for the last 14 months. Still getting freezes.
I don't think it's a speed issue.
a2sd should be fine on a class 2. What a2sd solution is it? Did you move dalvik too?
Its just a logical approach thats needed.
1) Eliminate the SD card by not running from it.
2) Change the rom
3) RUU
If after all that it still freezes, sounds like HW....
rootSU said:
a2sd should be fine on a class 2. What a2sd solution is it? Did you move dalvik too?
Its just a logical approach thats needed.
1) Eliminate the SD card by not running from it.
2) Change the rom
3) RUU
If after all that it still freezes, sounds like HW....
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Yeah that's pretty much what I was thinking.
I'm currently on InsertCoin with A2SD+. I was on LeeDroid, then RunnyMede before that with the same issue. I did a full wipe when swapping Roms. Not sure about Dalvik- if it's done in the Rom then yes, otherwise I haven't consciously moved it.
1) I might try a different SD that i have lying around- Nandroid it etc.
2) As above, already done that.
3) Last resort. Although a rooted RUU wouldn't be a massive issue for a day or 2.
If it's HW, I better get some insurance.
Edited to add: my SD card is actually a class 4. SD card tests suggests read speeds of 19-20mb/s and write speeds of 7-9mb/s.
Fixed my issue. It's the Kernel. Apparently the latest 2 kernels have the ability to undervoltage when not in use. Unfortunately, this can also cause the lockups i've(and possibly you've) been experiencing.
The last kernel without this in is: 2.6.35.14_110911.
This has 100% solved my issue and I recommended flashing it if you still having the same issue.
Great.
If I get another freeze, I`ll flash the 2.6.35.14_110911 kernel u`ve recommended.
Thanks a lot, dude.
If ever in Romania, look me up, got a few beers with your name on them
LE
If it`s not too much to ask, could you possibly post a download link for that kernel version?
i_cs_u said:
Great.
If I get another freeze, I`ll flash the 2.6.35.14_110911 kernel u`ve recommended.
Thanks a lot, dude.
If ever in Romania, look me up, got a few beers with your name on them
LE
If it`s not too much to ask, could you possibly post a download link for that kernel version?
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No problem.
I've never been to Romania...
Kernel at the bottom of this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=18894823&postcount=10450
Did you flash the kernel while on existing ROM, or did you reflash de ROM as well?
And what ROM are u using with this kernel?
try using the earlier versions of super nova and data2sd, I also had the freezing problem but that was AFTER I upgraded to the newest version of supernova and data2sd
I`m using the 2.0.2.0 version, not the latest 2.4.0.0.
Earlier than 2.0.2.0?
i_cs_u said:
Did you flash the kernel while on existing ROM, or did you reflash de ROM as well?
And what ROM are u using with this kernel?
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Flashed straight over the top. Insertcoin ROM.
Use the latest Supernova and see. It has a pretty good kernel.
Hi
I set my desire up with the supernova rom but had to ditch it after a couple of days due to very frequent random freezes. (data2sd)
Now I've got Leedroid 3.0.8.2 and that's giving me random freezes though to a much lesser extent.(a2sd+)
The Rom before I used Oxygen with no A2SD and this gave me no crashes but I desperately need the space due to my works email taking up all my storage!
So basically I wonder what I should do next. Is there anything I could try to fix my current setup. Is it worth reflashing? What's the likely culprit for the pull battery freezes?
My SD Card is a class 4 sandisk 8gb.
Alternatively I need a ROM which has
Very Stable!
A2SD+
Sense (Any version) OR…
Equivalent to 'Lock phone after' in Screen Unlock dialog*
*My work requires a PIN but the above dialog stops the pin being required if I have used the phone within 5 minutes!
I'm not bothered about the latest sense or loads of bells and whistles.
Thanks for any help!
Check Runnymede AIO.
I'd repartition the sd card before I do anything else.
SwiftKeyed from my HTC Desire using Tapatalk.
I got a class 6 4gb ad and I tried several ROM all with the CM7 and 1gb part.
I experienced just 1 freeze with the insert coin.
My old sd just burned out on the cool3d
Now I'm on revolution, pretty much visual stunning but have bugs on fast boot
Is cm7 extending the memory as you want?
Dallatorre said:
I got a class 6 4gb ad and I tried several ROM all with the CM7 and 1gb part.
I experienced just 1 freeze with the insert coin.
My old sd just burned out on the cool3d
Now I'm on revolution, pretty much visual stunning but have bugs on fast boot
Is cm7 extending the memory as you want?
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Try the rom and kernel from my signature. IMHO the best rom for desire.
erklat said:
I'd repartition the sd card before I do anything else.
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Sorry to jump in here, but I had issues along the lines of the OP, your post caught my eye.
I went from an 8GB card to a 16GB card and my Desire would freeze at least twice per day. It sometimes went a whole day, but when I woke up, it would have crashed, always required a battery out and in to fix.
Went back to my 8GB card yesterday and its been fine since!
Is partitioning required to solve this? Would love to go back to my 16GB card!
Cheers
Check your sd card, if not - ask sandvold he lost one this way. Can be a NAND bug.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
Likely to be a problem with the SD card; as others have said, re-format is a good place to start. Personally I'm enjoying the MildWild ROM (3.2). Can't find a lock phone after xx option though, sorry. It's very quick and seems very stable.
erklat said:
I'd repartition the sd card before I do anything else.
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Yeah people try this one first. Sd cards can go bonkers sometimes and a fresh repartition/format can do wonders.
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just like everyone else has said...repartition your sd...now for the second question I recommend using AN-droid 2.1.0 for a new rom....its stock GB, fast, smooth and really responsive...hope it helps bud...
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If you're looking for stable and fast ROM with a2sd method, I'll recommend you CyanogenMod 7.1 with int2sd script. It's really fast and works fine on most popular HBOOTS (stock, data++, CM7 r2).
Remember the order of flashing!
first: cyanogenmod 7.1
then: gapps
and after that: INT2SD
I have MildWild on my HTC Desire, its small enough to fit on the Internal Storage and give you approx 240mb for data/apps or it can be installed on EXT4 SD card partition.