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Ok, so with the issues that EB13 has, will Sprint just correct the issues and release EB13 again with the fixes or will it be a new update? Maybe just some patches? IDK! Does anyone know how they will go about doing this?
Im pretty sure it will have a different name.
Sent from my always stock, froyo Epic
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Im pretty sure it will have a different name.
Sent from my always stock, froyo Epic
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That's a given since the name is indicative of when it was compiled.
Most likely we won't see any kind of fix before the 20th at the earliest, and if it doesn't come before April then it's probably never coming and we will be SOL like the Moment users who were stuck with a ridiculously buggy 2.1 with no support from Samsung/Sprint.
Hmm well good point guys. Would you suggest running EB13 with the patched kernel(s) and/or a custom ROM? I'm looking for something stable and plan on using it for a while...
Go with Syndicate frozen or Bonsai 3.0
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Go with Syndicate frozen or Bonsai 3.0
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Yea I was looking into either one of those, but what about the EB13 data and sd card issues? Also the bugs that are currently in both roms? I've heard Truly Epic v3 is extremely stable.
Theyll just take Frozen or Bonsai or ACE, slap some Sprint footprints here and there to make it their own, remove OC from the kernels and make it their official release.
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Theyll just take Frozen or Bonsai or ACE, slap some Sprint footprints here and there to make it their own, remove OC from the kernels and make it their official release.
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LOL, na then that would have happen months ago!
Once they put out a product, they only update it in response to mass outrage. Google keeps popping out updates and the manufactures and carriers can't slap bloatware on fast enough, so they lose incentive to update at all. They clearly don't focus their efforts as hard as these wonderful developers do! But why would they? They're hoping you'll get so frustrated that you'll move on to their next, barely-improved device!
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Once they put out a product, they only update it in response to mass outrage. Google keeps popping out updates and the manufactures and carriers can't slap bloatware on fast enough, so they lose incentive to update at all. They clearly don't focus their efforts as hard as these wonderful developers do! But why would they? They're hoping you'll get so frustrated that you'll move on to their next, barely-improved device!
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SO TRUE, exactly what i have been sayin. I really dont even think we will see gingerbread, and if we do that will most likley be it for this failure of a phone. If it wasnt for custom roms and all the hard work around here i would have taken my epic back to the ****ing sprint store and threw it at the lying rep that sold it to me.
Same here. This phone has so Mich.potential that it will never see. Yeah the developers here are amazing but it would help them.out so.much.if Samsung gave.more support. If it wasn't for our developers I wouldn't have this phone right now.
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SO TRUE, exactly what i have been sayin. I really dont even think we will see gingerbread, and if we do that will most likley be it for this failure of a phone. If it wasnt for custom roms and all the hard work around here i would have taken my epic back to the ****ing sprint store and threw it at the lying rep that sold it to me.
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Hmm well good point guys. Would you suggest running EB13 with the patched kernel(s) and/or a custom ROM? I'm looking for something stable and plan on using it for a while...
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I first used Bonsai 3.0 and restored everything using Titanium Backup and had FC's and data problems.
I Odined back to Stock EB13 Extended and then reflashed Bonsai 3.0.1 and DID NOT restore via TB rather just installed everything I needed from the Market and synced all my contacts back, and Bingo. Everything is flawless... I mean flawless. I have not had ONE FC or data problems. I even got Wifi Tether 3.0 Pre-11 working great! (Haven't used it long enough to see if it crashes, only two days so far with spans of 2 hours at a time)
I think thats what's causing many problems with current flash junkies; they flash so much that they rely on backups like TB or even NANDROID backup that sometimes all they need is a fresh install of EVERYTHING.
I hope this helps
This phone was decent out of the box, but no huge improvement over many of the other android phones... But after Midnight and Bonsai and Syndicate roms, it's many times better than any stock phone out there! Granted, the same is true for most of the top phones once given their own custom roms... but I bought this one. And my only regret is that I can't take half that money back and give it to K0nane and the others for doing Sprint and Samsung's work for them!
EC05 was actually great (if you were lucky to catch it the week it was released, if not, it is on this forum somewhere.) The only reason I rooted was to delete some apps, to overclock, and to try out 2.3.3. I can't wait until CM7 is done. I currently use Red Beast with the new Genocide kernel. I have overclocked it to 1.12 Ghz and undervolted it to 1200 mV (the amount of energy used at the stock 800 mhz. It is extremely fast and saves me tons of battery. So if you are done messing around with sprint, start making your phone your own.
Maybe its just me, but when I first got the phone I had no problems.. Now after rooting and flashing custom roms I get random freezes, crazy battery drain and the infamous LOS.. and contrary to popular belief it has something to do with root.. I didn't root my phone or anything for at least a week after having it and none of the problems started until after.. Most people are having are probably having the same issues but since members on here always want to bite your head off anytime you say something they don't agree with, noone says anything. Im just making an observation and if you don't like it, feel free to hit the back button anyways, anyone feel the same way? BTW this isn't a rant against the developers. They are all great and I appreciate all the hard work.. I just feel like theres a missing link or something causing the problems.. what are ypur thoughts
Tapatalkin' it from my Epic Touch 3g
Lol, no.
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I feel the same way... I'm getting serious battery loss after flashing a few of these roms.. with stock Rom I was getting a good 20 hours moderate use.. now with custom roms I'm getting like 10 hourz... I'm In noway knocking on any devs.. I do appreciate everyones contribution... I think it's a lil still early in the galaxy development
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Mine ran great fresh out the box for sure, but thats also because it was fresh and had no apps installed etc lol.
Some roms seem to work better than others. Running Starbust 1.2 with zedo's 4.1 kernel and it's running absolutely great now, better than unrooted IMO.
Could be grass in greener on the other side syndrome, try unrooting and see if you still feel that it runs better stock. With ODIN it's pretty quick and easy to jump back from rooted to not and back again.
I will always be rooted because I love trying out new things and custom roms and overclocking/undervolting etc.. it's fun, like a hobby for sure. And sometimes that hobby especially with beta stuff isnt that stable lol!
Just having adfree and wifi tethering is more than enough reason for me to root. But when the really cool custom roms start coming out, it's gunna be on like donkey kong
I did run a rooted rom with the stock kernel, and I have to say I like zedo's better.
My 2 cents
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Maybe its just me, but when I first got the phone I had no problems.. Now after rooting and flashing custom roms I get random freezes, crazy battery drain and the infamous LOS.. and contrary to popular belief it has something to do with root.. I didn't root my phone or anything for at least a week after having it and none of the problems started until after.. Most people are having are probably having the same issues but since members on here always want to bite your head off anytime you say something they don't agree with, noone says anything. Im just making an observation and if you don't like it, feel free to hit the back button anyways, anyone feel the same way? BTW this isn't a rant against the developers. They are all great and I appreciate all the hard work.. I just feel like theres a missing link or something causing t runninghe problems.. what are ypur thoughts
Tapatalkin' it from my Epic Touch 3g
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I'm running stock + root.
There's nothing even remotely interesting to me in the current incarnations of the 3-4 roms available - they are all stock+ mods+ bugs.
Thank you very much but I can install those mods myself.
It's your own fault your phone is running like crap - don't mod it if you don't know what you are doing.
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Source?
My stock-rooted E4GT is working just fine. No LoS, no random reboots, no freezing up, no locking up... no bloat, great battery life, no BS.
I had a ton of issues with LOS and some random reboots on Zedomax's root kernel. Flashed to the stock + CMR and havent had an issue since.
I'll be serious now.
Aside from me disagreeing that root is the cause of LOS issues (I got them stock too) this is all part of the fun of modifying your gadgets.
Fun? Yeah, I said fun. These are insanely complex devices and it is still very early in their development cycle. If you aren't game then style out of it for a while until things mature. Hacking around ain't for everybody... As long as I maintain basic functionality I/we will (eventually) figure out the rest. That's the fun part.
That said I haven't experienced any of what you describe, besides a few unexpected FCs.
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I'm running stock + root.
There's nothing even remotely interesting to me in the current incarnations of the 3-4 roms available - they are all stock+ mods+ bugs.
Thank you very much but I can install those mods myself.
It's your own fault your phone is running like crap - don't mod it if you don't know what you are doing.
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Haha ur a clown.. I've probably been modding my phones before you had your first smartphone. I've been modding smartphones since the T-Mobile mda days and Ive had 8 or 9 since then all modded. I know the risks that come with modding. So don't assume because you jus make an ass out of... well you know the rest. Anyway.. I was just making a statement to maybe see if others are having the same issues, or if maybe its just my handset. I'm going to try going back to Stock rooted and see if the issues continue.. right now I'm on starburst 1.2 with zedo 4.1.
Tapatalkin' it from my Epic Touch 3g
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I'll be serious now.
Aside from me disagreeing that root is the cause of LOS issues (I got them stock too) this is all part of the fun of modifying your gadgets.
Fun? Yeah, I said fun. These are insanely complex devices and it is still very early in their development cycle. If you aren't game then style out of it for a while until things mature. Hacking around ain't for everybody... As long as I maintain basic functionality I/we will (eventually) figure out the rest. That's the fun part.
That said I haven't experienced any of what you describe, besides a few unexpected FCs.
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I agree with the fun part.. I mod anything I get my hands on. Not only my phones. Computers, cars you name it.. its in my nature.
Tapatalkin' it from my Epic Touch 3g
I'm stock with root, and it runs smoother than when I was on oc kernel
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I agree that LOS is not caused by rooted kernal. But, I did experience LOS alot more often than stock kernal. When I got the phone I stayed unrooted for a little over a week. I experienced 2 LOS during that time period. Once I finally rooted I was experiencing LOS @ least 3 times a day. LOS also drains the battery like crazy. One night I left the phone off the charger with 100% battery life. When I woke up, the phone was in LOS and only had 40% battery life. Well, today last night I finally switched to stock kernal. So far today no LOS.
I digress. Stock rom works perfect but I needed so mods that require root. The battery percent mod, wireless tether, and roam control. I think I'll wait for an AOSP rom before I try anything different roms.
I've tried all the currently available kernals for ths phone. I've rooted and unrooted. Right now, i'm on stock rooted. I'm still experiencing LOS, but it seems less frequent than when I was on custom kernals. It could be other criteria, though. I haven't tried any of the ROMs, only because I want a stock ROM to flash, if something goes wrong. I don't remember the epic taking this long to get the stock ROM available to us. My memory may be slipping, though.
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Haha ur a clown.. I've probably been modding my phones before you had your first smartphone. I've been modding smartphones since the T-Mobile mda days and Ive had 8 or 9 since then all modded. I know the risks that come with modding. So don't assume because you jus make an ass out of... well you know the rest. Anyway.. I was just making a statement to maybe see if others are having the same issues, or if maybe its just my handset. I'm going to try going back to Stock rooted and see if the issues continue.. right now I'm on starburst 1.2 with zedo 4.1.
Tapatalkin' it from my Epic Touch 3g
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Stop whining!
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Stop whining!
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Not really sure where you see whining. But I do see a clown who has nothing better to do that reply to my "whining". thanks for the post bump though. Now back on topic.. lets keep this sucka free please
Tapatalkin' it from my Epic Touch 3g
this is why I will wait another week or 2 before rooting....this phone is awe sum as stock, but, like any newly released phone, it takes a few weeks before all the truly revolutionary stuff gets developed.
Most devs have a real job, a family, and a real life, so you can't really expect flashing "nirvana" only a week or so after a phone comes out.
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I agree with the fun part.. I mod anything I get my hands on. Not only my phones. Computers, cars you name it.. its in my nature.
Tapatalkin' it from my Epic Touch 3g
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Same mentality here my man. It's either rooted... Overclocked.... Or supercharged. I like things over the top lol. Heck even my gas powered scooters and rc cars are souped up. Sorry.... Back on target.
Samsung Galaxy S II
I'm stock since day 1, when the phone first released, and I get LOS once a day. It's killing me not to have root, but I am not modding unless there is a factory RUU available straight from Samsung. Personally, and to no discredit to the developers, I don't trust the stock rom pulled from another phone. This phone is just a bit too new for me to be permanently altering it without a 100% safe way back. The OG Epic was made almost unbrickable, so it's reasonable to assume that a year from now, we will be rolling like pigs in **** with cool stuff to flash.
But I get what you are saying, and honestly, the community did not explode like I thought it would. Seems to be more HTC fans these days then Samsung, and just judging from Samsung's post launch support, or lack thereof, I can understand why...
Furthermore, my 3G speeds were horrible day 1 and continue to suck balls. Most times at work I can't even browse the market because of timeouts. 4G seems to work good though, and that's the only reason I haven't just returned this phone yet.
Check this thread:
http://community.sprint.com/baw/thread/76962?start=0&tstart=0
This is sprint's official forum, and they are just now admitting to the crappy radio implementation on this phone. Should have seen this coming a mile away, but honestly I was just too busy looking at this gorgeous 4.52" AMOLED+ screen to notice...
This is the first phone I've had were I don't feel the need to root, and I wouldn't have rooted until it had been perfected more.
Swyped from my Samsung Galaxy SII EPIC 4g Touch on XDA Premium!
my main reason for rooting was a few apps i had that needed root. as well as the battery percentage
What roms are those of you who arent crazy (aka those on ICS) using (aka those still using gingerbread roms). Having some odd problems with my rom im on currently, so im looking to see whats still good (Seeing as things havnt been updated for a while).
Check out Blazer ROM, and Calkulins ROM.
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Check out Blazer ROM, and Calkulins ROM.
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Ahh is blazer still being update? or atleast updated since the beginning of this year? and as far as calks gingerbread rom, i wasnt a fan. to many tweaks that caused random issues for me ( think it had to do with some of the powersaver scripts and whatnot). But yeah if blazer is still smooth and awesome i might give that a try.
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Ahh is blazer still being update? or atleast updated since the beginning of this year? and as far as calks gingerbread rom, i wasnt a fan. to many tweaks that caused random issues for me ( think it had to do with some of the powersaver scripts and whatnot). But yeah if blazer is still smooth and awesome i might give that a try.
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Im on blazer 4.0 smooth as butter
Back from my "scotsman vacation"
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Im on blazer 4.0 smooth as butter
Back from my "scotsman vacation"
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holy crap blazer 4.0 DOES look awesome. Thanks guys. Totally goin to blazer
On Blazer 3.5 and FB27 modem.
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Ahh is blazer still being update? or atleast updated since the beginning of this year? and as far as calks gingerbread rom, i wasnt a fan. to many tweaks that caused random issues for me ( think it had to do with some of the powersaver scripts and whatnot). But yeah if blazer is still smooth and awesome i might give that a try.
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Yep, last updated February 20th.
Blazer 4.1
Too sexy
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Blazer 4.1
Too sexy
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Show off........ Lol
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Blazer 4.1
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your old siggy was much more sexy
I didn't realize ics was bricking phones. I've been going to and from ics since the initial release. I think it's more that people are just being careless and not paying attention to what they are doing *or* they are doing something like using rom manager or touch recovery. Which if you haven't heard, DO NOT USE EITHER OF THESE ON OUR PHONES.
What I've learned through out my time flashing is:
1. Use the one-click ODIN+Root+Data Wipe for EL29 (Latest GB release).
2. If a custom recovery is required, wait for one to be created which matches the current build you have, ex. FB21 + FB21 Repack w/CWM. Usually the dev's are pretty good at getting one put together.
3. Do not restore back ups, ever. I repeat EVER.
4. Make sure all the drivers are installed before doing anything. (Samsung Kies, etc.)
5. If you need to get custom recovery for EL29, use the AutoRoot stickie, which has a 100% success rate.
6. Wipe, Wipe, Wipe, and more Wipe. I can't repeat that enough, but make sure you wipe every chance you get. Hell, wipe before flashing, after flashing, flash again, etc.
I keep the majority of my apps on Dropbox, and have my contacts synced through Exchange (Sprint server).
I have yet to brick a phone.
Strongsteve's rom. Nothing else need be said.
Up and comming Arts forum http://little-melon.com/Forum
I made a full thread on how to prevent bricking your phone when using ICS roms, it's perfectly fine to use ICS as long as you don't get careless, heres my thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525495
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I didn't realize ics was bricking phones. I've been going to and from ics since the initial release. I think it's more that people are just being careless and not paying attention to what they are doing *or* they are doing something like using rom manager or touch recovery. Which if you haven't heard, DO NOT USE EITHER OF THESE ON OUR PHONES.
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Well i would have to disagree with this. I was in the dev irc when the first bricks happened. Including sbrissen, a few of his testers and then recently steadyhawking (who obviously got another phone already). Has nothing to do with carelessness, theres just some problems with the process as a whole right now.
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I made a full thread on how to prevent bricking your phone when using ICS roms, it's perfectly fine to use ICS as long as you don't get careless, heres my thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525495
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Until I hear from Steady or sbrissen that the issue is completely gone. I appreciate the effort, but since we dont know EXACTLY what it is (hell there could be even more things that we dont know that are causing it) no ICS for this guy.
PS: You should add rouge recovery to the list of bricks suspects. Thats how steady bricked his phone the other day. he was in his own recovery and it still did it.
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Well i would have to disagree with this. I was in the dev irc when the first bricks happened. Including sbrissen, a few of his testers and then recently steadyhawking (who obviously got another phone already). Has nothing to do with carelessness, theres just some problems with the process as a whole right now.
Until I hear from Steady or sbrissen that the issue is completely gone. I appreciate the effort, but since we dont know EXACTLY what it is (hell there could be even more things that we dont know that are causing it) no ICS for this guy.
PS: You should add rouge recovery to the list of bricks suspects. Thats how steady bricked his phone the other day. he was in his own recovery and it still did it.
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WOAHH. I had no idea steady bricked his phone. I knew t.c.p. did. This adds a new dimension to this thing.
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Well i would have to disagree with this. I was in the dev irc when the first bricks happened. Including sbrissen, a few of his testers and then recently steadyhawking (who obviously got another phone already). Has nothing to do with carelessness, theres just some problems with the process as a whole right now.
Until I hear from Steady or sbrissen that the issue is completely gone. I appreciate the effort, but since we dont know EXACTLY what it is (hell there could be even more things that we dont know that are causing it) no ICS for this guy.
PS: You should add rouge recovery to the list of bricks suspects. Thats how steady bricked his phone the other day. he was in his own recovery and it still did it.
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Completely understandable, I would add it but the only problem is there is no way of knowing what he was doing when it bricked, an action has to be done for a phone to brick and without knowing that action I can't say "don't use rogue" or people would think I'm an idiot and nobody would be on ICS if that were the case, but I've been using ICS since the leaks came out and never had an issue once following my own guide (using rogue everytime btw).
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Completely understandable, I would add it but the only problem is there is no way of knowing what he was doing when it bricked, an action has to be done for a phone to brick and without knowing that action I can't say "don't use rogue" or people would think I'm an idiot and nobody would be on ICS if that were the case, but I've been using ICS since the leaks came out and never had an issue once following my own guide (using rogue everytime btw).
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I agree with you and I haven't had any problems either. and I mean since fb09 all the way to the current calk build. If Steady did actually brick his phone like the guy says, then there is probably some other reason that we are unaware of. Steady seems to have a pretty good grasp on what he's doing. That kinda scares me, but I have yet to find where he posted about bricking his device or a warning to stay away from ics or something along those lines :skeptical:
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Completely understandable, I would add it but the only problem is there is no way of knowing what he was doing when it bricked, an action has to be done for a phone to brick and without knowing that action I can't say "don't use rogue" or people would think I'm an idiot and nobody would be on ICS if that were the case, but I've been using ICS since the leaks came out and never had an issue once following my own guide (using rogue everytime btw).
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lol no one would think youre an idiot. Just mention that rouge recovery also runs the risk of bricking and refer anyone that doesnt believe you to steady's bricked phone .
PS: Steady used to brag to me that he used his recovery constantly to flash back and fourth to ICS...and then bricked
After all the playing around I did with ICS, I had to switch back due to the GPS issues and needing it to work for a road trip. I have no idea what bit of flashing/odin magic I did but I have Calkulins ROM running better than I've ever seen - UI is so snappy. I know it's a stock rooted kernel, but I'm not sure about the modem. Is that under "baseband version"?
Well, maybe two and a half.
I was using FB17 on my old black ET (bought on launch week), before it was bricked.
GPS would not connect. Vlingo was very broken - would not work with a bt car kit unless you manually unlocked the screen.
It was very snappy in my testing though.
I now have a brand new white ET, and I tried FC14.
Exact same problems. None of those were fixed in the last 3 1/2 weeks.
Thank god someone has figured out that you can simply remove vlingo garbage and replace it with a number of dialing apps like google voicedialer. I don't know if it can be done on ICS, but it works very well in EL29 gb roms.
So, GPS is a deal breaker right now, possibly on two somewhat different versions of hardware (old black et vs white new et.) What the hell are the developers thinking not fixing gps?
Also, FC14 was noticeably choppier than both EL29 and FB17. Maybe it was because of the particular widgets/software I used, I don't know. Could be a problem too.
Anyway, any thoughts?
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Well, maybe two and a half.
I was using FB17 on my old black ET (bought on launch week), before it was bricked.
GPS would not connect. Vlingo was very broken - would not work with a bt car kit unless you manually unlocked the screen.
It was very snappy in my testing though.
I now have a brand new white ET, and I tried FC14.
Exact same problems. None of those were fixed in the last 3 1/2 weeks.
Thank god someone has figured out that you can simply remove vlingo garbage and replace it with a number of dialing apps like google voicedialer. I don't know if it can be done on ICS, but it works very well in EL29 gb roms.
So, GPS is a deal breaker right now, possibly on two somewhat different versions of hardware (old black et vs white new et.) What the hell are the developers thinking not fixing gps?
Also, FC14 was noticeably choppier than both EL29 and FB17. Maybe it was because of the particular widgets/software I used, I don't know. Could be a problem too.
Anyway, any thoughts?
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When I started flashin ICS Roms...Couldn't get a lock or very spotty coverage...I tried all the Apps out there for GPS...None worked...What worked best has been used by many people on here...for me it worked the first time and I always get a lock...Here's the deal...
If you are willing to take the time to do it, this seems to work for everyone:
Odin one click back to Gingerbread
Odin flash kernel w/ recovery
Restore nandroid (optional)
Get GPS lock on Gingerbread and keep it on.
Boot to recovery and flash format all zip and ROM.
So Odin one click back to el29 GB...
get CWM there as well...Get your lock...leave it on...Go to CWM...restore your ICS Rom of choice...Reboot...ICS will open up and you will have GPS lock...works everytime...At least it has for me and a lot of people on here...
GPS was the Deal breaker for me as well...I use it a lot...Now I have an ICS Rom for my Daily Driver...
Well GPS hasn't been a strong point for Samsung in general. The devs your referring is Samsung, right? They have the necessary tools, like source code and non-gpl drivers. I'm pretty sure Samsung will get GPS better on ics at some point.
El29 is very refined. I would totally expect it to run smoother than any ics leak at this point.
I don't use any car/voice mode, so I cant comment on that.
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When I started flashin ICS Roms...Couldn't get a lock or very spotty coverage...I tried all the Apps out there for GPS...None worked...What worked best has been used by many people on here...for me it worked the first time and I always get a lock...Here's the deal...
If you are willing to take the time to do it, this seems to work for everyone:
Odin one click back to Gingerbread
Odin flash kernel w/ recovery
Restore nandroid (optional)
Get GPS lock on Gingerbread and keep it on.
Boot to recovery and flash format all zip and ROM.
So Odin one click back to el29 GB...
get CWM there as well...Get your lock...leave it on...Go to CWM...restore your ICS Rom of choice...Reboot...ICS will open up and you will have GPS lock...works everytime...At least it has for me and a lot of people on here...
GPS was the Deal breaker for me as well...I use it a lot...Now I have an ICS Rom for my Daily Driver...
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It works for a while. Then you lose gps again. It's too much trouble flashing and reflashing, whereas it should just work.
EL29 calks roms is very nice and smooth. Everything works, with a proper theme it looks a lot like ICS. It's just not worth it putting up with ICS bugs right now.
The only thing I'm really missing from ICS was the browser.
In the two days I've been running FC15 I've experienced none of what you mention. I think it's the luck of the draw with hardware/software and sprint service in your area. Are you updating your profile and PRL after flashing new modems?
FC15 is the smoothest build I've experienced since EL29 (which remains my goto version if the current ICS build doesn't do the job).
Did you do a complete wipe before installing? Did you make sure to flash the full rather than the nodata version if going from GB to ICS?
I'm certainly not insinuating you are incapable of knowing how to flash new builds but sometimes we overlook the simplest steps which leads to major complications.
If you've done all the above (including using Calkulin's format all) and still experience these issues then I'd definitely stick with EL29 for awhile longer.
My gps locks faster than ever. It's insane. I used gps all over CT, RI, and MA this weekend and was perfect. Didn't even get confused by 95 exchange in Providence.
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In the two days I've been running FC15 I've experienced none of what you mention. I think it's the luck of the draw with hardware/software and sprint service in your area. Are you updating your profile and PRL after flashing new modems?
FC15 is the smoothest build I've experienced since EL29 (which remains my goto version if the current ICS build doesn't do the job).
Did you do a complete wipe before installing? Did you make sure to flash the full rather than the nodata version if going from GB to ICS?
I'm certainly not insinuating you are incapable of knowing how to flash new builds but sometimes we overlook the simplest steps which leads to major complications.
If you've done all the above (including using Calkulin's format all) and still experience these issues then I'd definitely stick with EL29 for awhile longer.
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Yeah, I've done all those things and even more you never heard about.
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Well, maybe two and a half.
I was using FB17 on my old black ET (bought on launch week), before it was bricked.
GPS would not connect. Vlingo was very broken - would not work with a bt car kit unless you manually unlocked the screen.
It was very snappy in my testing though.
I now have a brand new white ET, and I tried FC14.
Exact same problems. None of those were fixed in the last 3 1/2 weeks.
Thank god someone has figured out that you can simply remove vlingo garbage and replace it with a number of dialing apps like google voicedialer. I don't know if it can be done on ICS, but it works very well in EL29 gb roms.
So, GPS is a deal breaker right now, possibly on two somewhat different versions of hardware (old black et vs white new et.) What the hell are the developers thinking not fixing gps?
Also, FC14 was noticeably choppier than both EL29 and FB17. Maybe it was because of the particular widgets/software I used, I don't know. Could be a problem too.
Anyway, any thoughts?
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Of course el29 will be smoother it's an official release. It isn't the developers fault GPS is goofy on ics either they been working hard to fix it... maybe you should read the bug list before you flash anything. Nothing will be completely stable until an official release is out thank the devs they got us this far and at least we can use most ics roms as a daily driver... a couple months ago no one can even get ics to function now look were we Are.
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Of course el29 will be smoother it's an official release. It isn't the developers fault GPS is goofy on ics either they been working hard to fix it... maybe you should read the bug list before you flash anything. Nothing will be completely stable until an official release is out thank the devs they got us this far and at least we can use most ics roms as a daily driver... a couple months ago no one can even get ics to function now look were we Are.
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I was talking about Samsung developers, not xda developers. Maybe I should have clarified. But I thought it was self-evident, since there's no source code for ICS available yet (and probably won't be for months.)
As for bug lists - ICS roms threads simply don't have them. So please don't patronize and act all butthurt for no reason.
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Yeah, I've done all those things and even more you never heard about.
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Well if you've tried all those and many you 'assume' I've never heard of then I think you've answered your own question.
Stick with EL29 until the official ICS is available. With any luck we aren't far off.
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Well if you've tried all those and many you 'assume' I've never heard of then I think you've answered your own question.
Stick with EL29 until the official ICS is available. With any luck we aren't far off.
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It's hard.
The flashaholic in me wants to try fc15. I know gps wont work in it, from the review qbking77 posted. But maybe it will be as snappy as FB17 was...
BTW, when is the official Sprint ics release due?
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It's hard.
The flashaholic in me wants to try fc15. I know gps wont work in it, from the review qbking77 posted. But maybe it will be as snappy as FB17 was...
BTW, when is the official Sprint ics release due?
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FC15 gps does work. I'm getting a lock right now on 8 satellites.
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FC15 gps does work. I'm getting a lock right now on 8 satellites.
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It doesn't work for qbking77, so I assumed it won't work for me.
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It's hard.
The flashaholic in me wants to try fc15. I know gps wont work in it, from the review qbking77 posted. But maybe it will be as snappy as FB17 was...
BTW, when is the official Sprint ics release due?
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It is hard to not flash and I'm only a recent flashaholic (boy do I wish I'd paid more attention to XDA when I had my EVO 4G, would've saved me the mistake of buying the POS 3D).
After FC07 I was going to stick with EL29 until the official release came out but then the 13, 14 and 15 leaked builds came out with overall good reviews so I dove in again and so far I haven't regretted it.
Official release date, who knows, this is Sprint after all but with the leaks coming fast and furious common sense would dictate it can't be too far off (at least we hope).
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It doesn't work for qbking77, so I assumed it won't work for me.
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Believe me mine works...EveryTime...Im runnin on FC14 at the moment ...didn't think there is a need to update to 15 since 14 is runnin fine...Everything runs on My Rom...But like I told ya if GPS didn't work Id be back on GB...Right now Im runnin an EL29 Modem on MIJJz BLEND ICS "THE GOODNESS" 2.3...IMO its the hottest ICS Rom out there hands down...Its smooth quick snappy...uou name it...With functioning GPS for me...But if you think you'll be happy with GB go back...Im stickin with the ICS leaks till the final and I think they are Damn close...
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I was talking about Samsung developers, not xda developers. Maybe I should have clarified. But I thought it was self-evident, since there's no source code for ICS available yet (and probably won't be for months.)
As for bug lists - ICS roms threads simply don't have them. So please don't patronize and act all butthurt for no reason.
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You are aware of the difference between "unknown dev-state leaks" versus "official releases", right? Also that devs post leaks for us to test and report back bugs, of which there are multiple threads containing these lists, right? The issues you report have been answered in several threads, several times.
My gps has worked in every FC ICS build so far. (Lucky me I guess)
Few things that don't work, error out.
Accuweather daemon sometimes FC's.
Moving apps to SD card a bit wonkey. Currently doesn't move them to the ACTUAL SD but to "usb storage" on the phone. FC15 only.
A handful of apps still aren't compatible with ICS. (NOT the rom fault).
Signal bar info isn't correct on any build pre FC15.
Market sometimes takes awhile to actually start downloading apps.
GPS sometimes doesn't turn OFF. <- eating your battery VERY quickly.
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You are aware of the difference between "unknown dev-state leaks" versus "official releases", right? Also that devs post leaks for us to test and report back bugs, of which there are multiple threads containing these lists, right? The issues you report have been answered in several threads, several times.
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I wasn't reporting anything. I was just reflecting on how in 3.5 weeks of my absence, the most blatant deal breaker bugs have not been fixed.
I've never flashed an ICS rom but I use FC15 modem with blazer 4.0 and It's possibly the best modem I've used with this phone. Smooth as can be and what seems to be better data speeds than the other modems.
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I've never flashed an ICS rom but I use FC15 modem with blazer 4.0 and It's possibly the best modem I've used with this phone. Smooth as can be and what seems to be better data speeds than the other modems.
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Im on an ICS Rom...just flashed FC15 for test run...
I see 17 and 19 are due out soon...
Hey everyone,
I've been doing lots of ROM homework since the ICS update popped up on my stock but rooted 2.3.6 on tmo. Anyway I decided to freeze that device updater and pick a rom since it sounds like so many people were having issues with stock ICS. However, all the other ICS roms that have come out seem to be lacking functionality with bugs and other problems. Do these really hinder? For instance, I've been eyeing Darkside evo 3 since it seems the best but it sounds like everyone still has app hangs. AOKP has random reboots and call echo, no video cam various other roms have a mixture of those problems. If everyone is reporting problems, I ask myself "What can those ICS roms do that my GB can't that makes it worth it?" Or on the other hand, is the vast majority happy and don't bother to post their happiness and I only hear of the problems which are minority?
I ask because I get really frustrated if things don't work, especially when they did before. I get about 2 days of battery life now anyway and if I can't extend, I don't see much point. If darkside is legit, or another ics rom, should I go ahead and flash v7 or wait till v8? Also, I'm leaving the country on the 7th for a few months so I'd like something stable before then, especially when my phone is practically going to be my mobile computer.
It's really up to u what u would like... Me personally want to try them all that's way I can make my own decision... For example I was running eaglesblood and went to darkside eco. Then came the Ics update which took my root. Rerooted and flashed juggernaut which by the way is a beast. But since I not one to sit back and just settle, I jumped on infamous... There's a lot to learn from each ROM but if u want the tools are there. Don't settle. Always something is getting fixed or updated but whatever u do thank the devs... Without them we wouldn't have any of this happening.
As I said juggernaut is a beast in it's own right, I never had any issues with it. But once I flashed infamous I was super impressed of how fast all worked. Nothing has yet to f/c or give me any issues. The key to doing this is just follow instructions to a T. That's my best advice. Im new to this too but every dev def does their best to answer question as fast as they can.
Darkside 3v7 with venom kernel has been as stable as can be for me.
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If you don't wish to tolerate any issues then i would stick with stock. The name of the site is xda-DEVELOPERS.
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think i'm in the same boat as the op. want to try a custom rom instead of official ics. i tried to flash infamous v2.5 from gb 2.3.6 but i got the dreaded boot loop. flashed it multiple times with no different result so i'm restoring my nandroid backup right now.
i read the whole infamous thread and everyone seems to say it's super stable so i'm not sure what i might have done wrong.
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think i'm in the same boat as the op. want to try a custom rom instead of official ics. i tried to flash infamous v2.5 from gb 2.3.6 but i got the dreaded boot loop. flashed it multiple times with no different result so i'm restoring my nandroid backup right now.
i read the whole infamous thread and everyone seems to say it's super stable so i'm not sure what i might have done wrong.
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you have to do exactly as op directs... im looking to switch here today with the new chimera rom. only issue i had was now with the infamous 2.4.5.1 radio signal is lost. imma research on that later. love infamous but im so always ready to try new things i wana see what the fuzz about chimera is. just recheck your steps and enjoy. took me on the first try to get infamous. but again best of luck on whichever rom you decide to use. everything will have hang ups here and there. its developing, it happens. nothing is perfect but if you know any ways to make it so then implement your own time and start creating your own.
its best i can recommend. then again everyone is entitled to their own opinion.:good:
If you want stable with good support the only one to go with is Cyanogenmod 9.
If you want the second best ROM and the one I use its Root Box Rom.
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Stay away from chimera , infamous, and of course juggernaut. Anything else your good. Don't let them fool you especially with the "opinion" BS. They are the same ones rushing for "first!" Bull**** On the OP and now starting with the "::good::" OR let them say that **** is good and you can listen...you can always re-flash another from not listed above good luck brother
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Stay away from chimera , infamous, and of course juggernaut. Anything else your good. Don't let them fool you especially with the "opinion" BS. They are the same ones rushing for "first!" Bull**** On the OP and now starting with the "::good::" OR let them say that **** is good and you can listen...you can always re-flash another from not listed above good luck brother
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intended in full pun, i did say it was my opinion due to its what i have used, im currently on or wanna try. i didnt put a gun to his head stating he has to get any rom in particular. those are the ones i had flashed and tried out. how can i opiniate on any rom that i havent flashed myself..... does it make any sense? in regards of going for first? what does that even mean? as stated above, i only gave my opinion on working roms that i used. intended in full is the fact that the individual that asked the question asked for the responders personal opinions. so with that said i'll extend my freedom of speech to say, this site is for developers that help us out to get the maximum of our devices, if your a developer then create your own and publish it. dont bash nobodies work. their time invested is FREE. only thing they have its the donations we make. with that said i bid you well and happy flashings
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dont bash nobodies work. their time invested is FREE. only thing they have its the donations we make. with that said i bid you well and happy flashings
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So true. Sorta want to put this in my signature. I was thinking the same thing. Whether ROMs are good or bad is mostly opinion, unless they don't boot or something. I tried most of the ROMs mentioned above and honestly, even though I'm not using any of them now, they were all okay. Just didn't fit my preferences.
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you have to do exactly as op directs... im looking to switch here today with the new chimera rom. only issue i had was now with the infamous 2.4.5.1 radio signal is lost. imma research on that later. love infamous but im so always ready to try new things i wana see what the fuzz about chimera is. just recheck your steps and enjoy. took me on the first try to get infamous. but again best of luck on whichever rom you decide to use. everything will have hang ups here and there. its developing, it happens. nothing is perfect but if you know any ways to make it so then implement your own time and start creating your own.
its best i can recommend. then again everyone is entitled to their own opinion.:good:
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yeah, i followed the exact instructions in the infamous thread. finally got it to work when i used the darkside superwipe prior to flashing the rom. had just been doing the "wipe data/factory reset" option in cwm recovery prior to that.
so far it's great. really smooth. not sure i'll ever take time to learn the programming skills necessary to do any software development so i'm glad there are lots of people here doing it for me. :good:
i just flashed chimera vs hercules and im speachless....it has sooooo many tweaks enabled by user that it just blows your mind.. *just stating my opinion* ill be back later and will let you know how is the vanilla ROM...so far im still loving this chimera with all hits user options but i have to try as many as i can so i can give a true opinion. might ned to do a lil radio research but other than that im deff making chimera my ride or die!!! happy flashings!!:laugh:
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i just flashed chimera vs hercules and im speachless....it has sooooo many tweaks enabled by user that it just blows your mind.. *just stating my opinion* ill be back later and will let you know how is the vanilla ROM...so far im still loving this chimera with all hits user options but i have to try as many as i can so i can give a true opinion. might ned to do a lil radio research but other than that im deff making chimera my ride or die!!! happy flashings!!:laugh:
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Agreed. I had to revert back to Tuesday since I couldn't disable the touch key lights.
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Thanks for the input. Now if info of problems by version could be consolidated to see what I might be getting myself into, to weigh the pros and cons easier...
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Thanks for the input. Now if info of problems by version could be consolidated to see what I might be getting myself into, to weigh the pros and cons easier...
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between the 3 ROMs i addressed the only issue i have had its i lost my 4g on chimeravshercules. but imma do some research and find radios to flash unto it and see if that helps my issue. other issue i seen is the desktop f/c but since yesterday it has only happened twice. its lightning fast for the most part and i LOVE the fact that i can customize as i want.as for juggernaut v5.0, itsa beast no issues i seen and for infamous the only prob i had was it installed team win recovery v*** which i dont care much for. reverted back to my backup and reflashed and worked great again. so until i get the vanilla ROM thats all i can input.:victory:
Im using Mr. X stock tmobile ics version, very stable and i havent had a problem with it so its been my dd since it came out. You should try it out...All you need to do is read the OP carefully and do what it says.
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Agreed. I had to revert back to Tuesday since I couldn't disable the touch key lights.
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Out of curiosity... How is Tuesday better than an ics rom? Not knocking it trust me. I just wanted some info please. Also I hear he is working on an ics version as well
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If your still in gb go with beastMOD 5.0. Hands down the best rom on gingerbread, followed by juggernaut 5.0. If you want a stable ics rom go with DARKSIDE v7. Amazing rom.
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AOKP is working out some final kinks, but once it is done I think it will be the best.
Same boat here. ICS is just trash for me. My calls suck on low signal and wifi calling has a 3-4 second delay and thats with stock. I did all clean installs to ICS and wiped and wiped and wiped and it didn't change a thing. I tried Darkside before the official ICS drop and wifi calling was worse but regular calls were better. I was hoping AOKP would be ready by now. I'm going to have to go back to GB. I don't really want to but I can't really use my phone as a damn phone most of the time. I guess the trade off is having it look cool and making calls with GrooveIP at home.
May try Darkside and Beastmod before restoring GB stock rooted. I really really want to keep Apex.
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Darkside is nice. Camera is better, wifi calling echo is gone too. Getting the weird dialing out after calls drop though.