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What will Sprint/Samsung do?

Ok, so with the issues that EB13 has, will Sprint just correct the issues and release EB13 again with the fixes or will it be a new update? Maybe just some patches? IDK! Does anyone know how they will go about doing this?

Im pretty sure it will have a different name.
Sent from my always stock, froyo Epic

zanderman112 said:
Im pretty sure it will have a different name.
Sent from my always stock, froyo Epic
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That's a given since the name is indicative of when it was compiled.
Most likely we won't see any kind of fix before the 20th at the earliest, and if it doesn't come before April then it's probably never coming and we will be SOL like the Moment users who were stuck with a ridiculously buggy 2.1 with no support from Samsung/Sprint.

Hmm well good point guys. Would you suggest running EB13 with the patched kernel(s) and/or a custom ROM? I'm looking for something stable and plan on using it for a while...

Go with Syndicate frozen or Bonsai 3.0

063_XOBX said:
Go with Syndicate frozen or Bonsai 3.0
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Yea I was looking into either one of those, but what about the EB13 data and sd card issues? Also the bugs that are currently in both roms? I've heard Truly Epic v3 is extremely stable.

Theyll just take Frozen or Bonsai or ACE, slap some Sprint footprints here and there to make it their own, remove OC from the kernels and make it their official release.

Darkshneider said:
Theyll just take Frozen or Bonsai or ACE, slap some Sprint footprints here and there to make it their own, remove OC from the kernels and make it their official release.
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LOL, na then that would have happen months ago!

Once they put out a product, they only update it in response to mass outrage. Google keeps popping out updates and the manufactures and carriers can't slap bloatware on fast enough, so they lose incentive to update at all. They clearly don't focus their efforts as hard as these wonderful developers do! But why would they? They're hoping you'll get so frustrated that you'll move on to their next, barely-improved device!

RandomKing said:
Once they put out a product, they only update it in response to mass outrage. Google keeps popping out updates and the manufactures and carriers can't slap bloatware on fast enough, so they lose incentive to update at all. They clearly don't focus their efforts as hard as these wonderful developers do! But why would they? They're hoping you'll get so frustrated that you'll move on to their next, barely-improved device!
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SO TRUE, exactly what i have been sayin. I really dont even think we will see gingerbread, and if we do that will most likley be it for this failure of a phone. If it wasnt for custom roms and all the hard work around here i would have taken my epic back to the ****ing sprint store and threw it at the lying rep that sold it to me.

Same here. This phone has so Mich.potential that it will never see. Yeah the developers here are amazing but it would help them.out so.much.if Samsung gave.more support. If it wasn't for our developers I wouldn't have this phone right now.
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SO TRUE, exactly what i have been sayin. I really dont even think we will see gingerbread, and if we do that will most likley be it for this failure of a phone. If it wasnt for custom roms and all the hard work around here i would have taken my epic back to the ****ing sprint store and threw it at the lying rep that sold it to me.
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Sent From My Evo Killer!

dcraig723 said:
Hmm well good point guys. Would you suggest running EB13 with the patched kernel(s) and/or a custom ROM? I'm looking for something stable and plan on using it for a while...
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I first used Bonsai 3.0 and restored everything using Titanium Backup and had FC's and data problems.
I Odined back to Stock EB13 Extended and then reflashed Bonsai 3.0.1 and DID NOT restore via TB rather just installed everything I needed from the Market and synced all my contacts back, and Bingo. Everything is flawless... I mean flawless. I have not had ONE FC or data problems. I even got Wifi Tether 3.0 Pre-11 working great! (Haven't used it long enough to see if it crashes, only two days so far with spans of 2 hours at a time)
I think thats what's causing many problems with current flash junkies; they flash so much that they rely on backups like TB or even NANDROID backup that sometimes all they need is a fresh install of EVERYTHING.
I hope this helps

This phone was decent out of the box, but no huge improvement over many of the other android phones... But after Midnight and Bonsai and Syndicate roms, it's many times better than any stock phone out there! Granted, the same is true for most of the top phones once given their own custom roms... but I bought this one. And my only regret is that I can't take half that money back and give it to K0nane and the others for doing Sprint and Samsung's work for them!

EC05 was actually great (if you were lucky to catch it the week it was released, if not, it is on this forum somewhere.) The only reason I rooted was to delete some apps, to overclock, and to try out 2.3.3. I can't wait until CM7 is done. I currently use Red Beast with the new Genocide kernel. I have overclocked it to 1.12 Ghz and undervolted it to 1200 mV (the amount of energy used at the stock 800 mhz. It is extremely fast and saves me tons of battery. So if you are done messing around with sprint, start making your phone your own.

Since ICS is Brick Happy for our phones.....

What roms are those of you who arent crazy (aka those on ICS) using (aka those still using gingerbread roms). Having some odd problems with my rom im on currently, so im looking to see whats still good (Seeing as things havnt been updated for a while).

Check out Blazer ROM, and Calkulins ROM.

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Check out Blazer ROM, and Calkulins ROM.
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Ahh is blazer still being update? or atleast updated since the beginning of this year? and as far as calks gingerbread rom, i wasnt a fan. to many tweaks that caused random issues for me ( think it had to do with some of the powersaver scripts and whatnot). But yeah if blazer is still smooth and awesome i might give that a try.

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Ahh is blazer still being update? or atleast updated since the beginning of this year? and as far as calks gingerbread rom, i wasnt a fan. to many tweaks that caused random issues for me ( think it had to do with some of the powersaver scripts and whatnot). But yeah if blazer is still smooth and awesome i might give that a try.
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Im on blazer 4.0 smooth as butter
Back from my "scotsman vacation"

Bear gri11z said:
Im on blazer 4.0 smooth as butter
Back from my "scotsman vacation"
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holy crap blazer 4.0 DOES look awesome. Thanks guys. Totally goin to blazer

On Blazer 3.5 and FB27 modem.

HaiKaiDo said:
Ahh is blazer still being update? or atleast updated since the beginning of this year? and as far as calks gingerbread rom, i wasnt a fan. to many tweaks that caused random issues for me ( think it had to do with some of the powersaver scripts and whatnot). But yeah if blazer is still smooth and awesome i might give that a try.
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Yep, last updated February 20th.

Blazer 4.1
Too sexy

iSaint said:
Blazer 4.1
Too sexy
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Show off........ Lol

iSaint said:
Blazer 4.1
Too sexy
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your old siggy was much more sexy

I didn't realize ics was bricking phones. I've been going to and from ics since the initial release. I think it's more that people are just being careless and not paying attention to what they are doing *or* they are doing something like using rom manager or touch recovery. Which if you haven't heard, DO NOT USE EITHER OF THESE ON OUR PHONES.

What I've learned through out my time flashing is:
1. Use the one-click ODIN+Root+Data Wipe for EL29 (Latest GB release).
2. If a custom recovery is required, wait for one to be created which matches the current build you have, ex. FB21 + FB21 Repack w/CWM. Usually the dev's are pretty good at getting one put together.
3. Do not restore back ups, ever. I repeat EVER.
4. Make sure all the drivers are installed before doing anything. (Samsung Kies, etc.)
5. If you need to get custom recovery for EL29, use the AutoRoot stickie, which has a 100% success rate.
6. Wipe, Wipe, Wipe, and more Wipe. I can't repeat that enough, but make sure you wipe every chance you get. Hell, wipe before flashing, after flashing, flash again, etc.
I keep the majority of my apps on Dropbox, and have my contacts synced through Exchange (Sprint server).
I have yet to brick a phone.

Strongsteve's rom. Nothing else need be said.
Up and comming Arts forum http://little-melon.com/Forum

I made a full thread on how to prevent bricking your phone when using ICS roms, it's perfectly fine to use ICS as long as you don't get careless, heres my thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525495

Freeroot said:
I didn't realize ics was bricking phones. I've been going to and from ics since the initial release. I think it's more that people are just being careless and not paying attention to what they are doing *or* they are doing something like using rom manager or touch recovery. Which if you haven't heard, DO NOT USE EITHER OF THESE ON OUR PHONES.
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Well i would have to disagree with this. I was in the dev irc when the first bricks happened. Including sbrissen, a few of his testers and then recently steadyhawking (who obviously got another phone already). Has nothing to do with carelessness, theres just some problems with the process as a whole right now.
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I made a full thread on how to prevent bricking your phone when using ICS roms, it's perfectly fine to use ICS as long as you don't get careless, heres my thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525495
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Until I hear from Steady or sbrissen that the issue is completely gone. I appreciate the effort, but since we dont know EXACTLY what it is (hell there could be even more things that we dont know that are causing it) no ICS for this guy.
PS: You should add rouge recovery to the list of bricks suspects. Thats how steady bricked his phone the other day. he was in his own recovery and it still did it.

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Well i would have to disagree with this. I was in the dev irc when the first bricks happened. Including sbrissen, a few of his testers and then recently steadyhawking (who obviously got another phone already). Has nothing to do with carelessness, theres just some problems with the process as a whole right now.
Until I hear from Steady or sbrissen that the issue is completely gone. I appreciate the effort, but since we dont know EXACTLY what it is (hell there could be even more things that we dont know that are causing it) no ICS for this guy.
PS: You should add rouge recovery to the list of bricks suspects. Thats how steady bricked his phone the other day. he was in his own recovery and it still did it.
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WOAHH. I had no idea steady bricked his phone. I knew t.c.p. did. This adds a new dimension to this thing.

HaiKaiDo said:
Well i would have to disagree with this. I was in the dev irc when the first bricks happened. Including sbrissen, a few of his testers and then recently steadyhawking (who obviously got another phone already). Has nothing to do with carelessness, theres just some problems with the process as a whole right now.
Until I hear from Steady or sbrissen that the issue is completely gone. I appreciate the effort, but since we dont know EXACTLY what it is (hell there could be even more things that we dont know that are causing it) no ICS for this guy.
PS: You should add rouge recovery to the list of bricks suspects. Thats how steady bricked his phone the other day. he was in his own recovery and it still did it.
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Completely understandable, I would add it but the only problem is there is no way of knowing what he was doing when it bricked, an action has to be done for a phone to brick and without knowing that action I can't say "don't use rogue" or people would think I'm an idiot and nobody would be on ICS if that were the case, but I've been using ICS since the leaks came out and never had an issue once following my own guide (using rogue everytime btw).

xST4T1K said:
Completely understandable, I would add it but the only problem is there is no way of knowing what he was doing when it bricked, an action has to be done for a phone to brick and without knowing that action I can't say "don't use rogue" or people would think I'm an idiot and nobody would be on ICS if that were the case, but I've been using ICS since the leaks came out and never had an issue once following my own guide (using rogue everytime btw).
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I agree with you and I haven't had any problems either. and I mean since fb09 all the way to the current calk build. If Steady did actually brick his phone like the guy says, then there is probably some other reason that we are unaware of. Steady seems to have a pretty good grasp on what he's doing. That kinda scares me, but I have yet to find where he posted about bricking his device or a warning to stay away from ics or something along those lines :skeptical:

xST4T1K said:
Completely understandable, I would add it but the only problem is there is no way of knowing what he was doing when it bricked, an action has to be done for a phone to brick and without knowing that action I can't say "don't use rogue" or people would think I'm an idiot and nobody would be on ICS if that were the case, but I've been using ICS since the leaks came out and never had an issue once following my own guide (using rogue everytime btw).
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lol no one would think youre an idiot. Just mention that rouge recovery also runs the risk of bricking and refer anyone that doesnt believe you to steady's bricked phone .
PS: Steady used to brag to me that he used his recovery constantly to flash back and fourth to ICS...and then bricked

After all the playing around I did with ICS, I had to switch back due to the GPS issues and needing it to work for a road trip. I have no idea what bit of flashing/odin magic I did but I have Calkulins ROM running better than I've ever seen - UI is so snappy. I know it's a stock rooted kernel, but I'm not sure about the modem. Is that under "baseband version"?

Super slow speeds on any ICS ROM

Someone please help. I've been up and down forums looking for the answer.
I've flashed cm9, aokp, Calkulin's, and quite a few more and now with the official release of ICS for e4gt, the STOCK ROM for it as well.
I've also flashed numerous modems (more than half of what is out there now) and to no avail im getting .16Mb DL and .38Mb UL.
It makes the phone nearly unusable on 3g/4g, yet wifi works perfectly.
I've updated Profile AND PRL, I've done a clean wipe, cache partition, and dalvik. I've pretty much followed every rule there is about rooting and ROMs carefully.
I need some major help or at least someone tell me that I'm doomed with GB for the rest of my phones existence, I really need an answer because its driving me nuts.
All help is beyond greatly appreciated.

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Someone please help. I've been up and down forums looking for the answer.
I've flashed cm9, aokp, Calkulin's, and quite a few more and now with the official release of ICS for e4gt, the STOCK ROM for it as well.
I've also flashed numerous modems (more than half of what is out there now) and to no avail im getting .16Mb DL and .38Mb UL.
It makes the phone nearly unusable on 3g/4g, yet wifi works perfectly.
I've updated Profile AND PRL, I've done a clean wipe, cache partition, and dalvik. I've pretty much followed every rule there is about rooting and ROMs carefully.
I need some major help or at least someone tell me that I'm doomed with GB for the rest of my phones existence, I really need an answer because its driving me nuts.
All help is beyond greatly appreciated.
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I'm sorry if I sound redundant, but have you tried flashing the FF18 Modem? That's the one that just went OTA.

Jeffreycat said:
I'm sorry if I sound redundant, but have you tried flashing the FF18 Modem? That's the one that just went OTA.
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indeed i have. i am currently running the new OTA stock, equip with FF18.
I was on a custom TSM_Revamped so i had to force the update. i did not receive the OTA automatically, if that matters.

I had the same issues with Ics. I reverted back to GB roms for my speeds. All I can say is wait a bit and see if some devs push out re worked kernels for the ics since source is out and about. I had best luck with the ff11 modem. But when I updated the profile and prl it became worse. So keep your head high. and hopefully the awesome devs do some magic for the kernals

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I had the same issues with Ics. I reverted back to GB roms for my speeds. All I can say is wait a bit and see if some devs push out re worked kernels for the ics since source is out and about. I had best luck with the ff11 modem. But when I updated the profile and prl it became worse. So keep your head high. and hopefully the awesome devs do some magic for the kernals
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Thanks man. I guess its back to GB for now.
If by any chance you find an update/fix, try and not forget about me

Rvezz28 said:
Thanks man. I guess its back to GB for now.
If by any chance you find an update/fix, try and not forget about me
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I'll come back to post and I'll let I you know if I come across some worthy mentions

I have been having issues with 4G after upgrading to FF18 and was wondering if you could give me any insight...
Two friends of mine and myself all have the E4GT and have upgraded to FF18 using the One-Click Factory Reset package.
Pretty much what happens is that when I connect to 4G, my upload speeds are now around 150kbps down and 1500kbps up, when they used to hit around 5000kbps up and 1500kbps down. We are all having the same issue and live in NYC.
I've reverted back to EK02 using your One-Click, ran speedtests again and everything worked fine. I then let the OTA of EL29 install and 4G also works fine on that one. I then tried installing FF18 again and 4G speeds were back at 100-150kbps. I've tried the FF18 rooted, FF18 stock, and tried just using the recovery to run the update package from my SDCard while on stock EL29 and they all yield the same result.
Any ideas?
Thanks in advance for all of your help!

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I have been having issues with 4G after upgrading to FF18 and was wondering if you could give me any insight...
Two friends of mine and myself all have the E4GT and have upgraded to FF18 using the One-Click Factory Reset package.
Pretty much what happens is that when I connect to 4G, my upload speeds are now around 150kbps down and 1500kbps up, when they used to hit around 5000kbps up and 1500kbps down. We are all having the same issue and live in NYC.
I've reverted back to EK02 using your One-Click, ran speedtests again and everything worked fine. I then let the OTA of EL29 install and 4G also works fine on that one. I then tried installing FF18 again and 4G speeds were back at 100-150kbps. I've tried the FF18 rooted, FF18 stock, and tried just using the recovery to run the update package from my SDCard while on stock EL29 and they all yield the same result.
Any ideas?
Thanks in advance for all of your help!
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Sorry dude, i'm still running a GB Rom due to this issue. Haven't found any answer yet either. I'm just trying to be patient until cyanogen adds this to the official beta/nightlies list to reflash and try again. This sucks

Rvezz28 said:
Sorry dude, i'm still running a GB Rom due to this issue. Haven't found any answer yet either. I'm just trying to be patient until cyanogen adds this to the official beta/nightlies list to reflash and try again. This sucks
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I notice that under your name it says your from Brooklyn... As mentioned in my post, my 2 friends and I are in NYC also. 2 of us are in Queens and one in Hempstead.
Maybe it is a location based issue. Something with the towers...

crusifier said:
I notice that under your name it says your from Brooklyn... As mentioned in my post, my 2 friends and I are in NYC also. 2 of us are in Queens and one in Hempstead.
Maybe it is a location based issue. Something with the towers...
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That's what i had thought at first but i heard the same from people in DC as well as a few other big cities. However the problem isn't consistent and appears to be few and far between with the users having this problem (or they're just not commenting). No one has a definitive answer yet. I'm in the "wait and see" stage since the official ICS has dropped for the e4gt and hope that someone fixes the problem along the line.
ICS is just too pretty not to have lol. If i hear or do anything that fixes the problem, i'll be sure to post it up.
p.s. data speeds are decent in Manhattan though but still not "4g" even thought it shows the bars. It's better but not top speeds.
Sorry I couldn't be much help

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That's what i had thought at first but i heard the same from people in DC as well as a few other big cities. However the problem isn't consistent and appears to be few and far between with the users having this problem (or they're just not commenting). No one has a definitive answer yet. I'm in the "wait and see" stage since the official ICS has dropped for the e4gt and hope that someone fixes the problem along the line.
ICS is just too pretty not to have lol. If i hear or do anything that fixes the problem, i'll be sure to post it up.
p.s. data speeds are decent in Manhattan though but still not "4g" even thought it shows the bars. It's better but not top speeds.
Sorry I couldn't be much help
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Hey, check out this other thread... we are not alone!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1771294&page=2

Can i flash the newest modem if im running CM9 Rom?

babololo12 said:
Can i flash the newest modem if im running CM9 Rom?
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Yes you can
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I've only noticed ping has really sucked on ICS for this phone.
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http://e4gtcm.blogspot.com/2012/07/progress-towards-offical-cm-status-for.html?m=1
I guess we'll just have to wait and see. I at least take comfort in knowing Cyanogen is taking a crack at the fix
Sent from my SPH-D710

Rvezz28 said:
http://e4gtcm.blogspot.com/2012/07/progress-towards-offical-cm-status-for.html?m=1
I guess we'll just have to wait and see. I at least take comfort in knowing Cyanogen is taking a crack at the fix
Sent from my SPH-D710
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I'm in NYC, just updated to 4.0.4 (FF18) and see that I should have stayed on the leaked 4.0.3 (FD19) ROM I was already on!! I posted in that other thread. I'm calling Sprint now.

wesswei said:
I'm in NYC, just updated to 4.0.4 (FF18) and see that I should have stayed on the leaked 4.0.3 (FD19) ROM I was already on!! I posted in that other thread. I'm calling Sprint now.
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It wouldn't have mattered. If you stood on FD19 the 4g would had crapped out on you sooner or later. I started off good I had perfectly working 4g on every ICS builds even on FF 18. It just crapped out on me out of nowhere. Reverting to an older ICS leak does not fix it. Only gingerbread will fix it..
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In case anyone in here hasn't heard, there are some new leaks, which fix the 4G issue. I'm on FI03 right now. Check it out here and give props to the devs!
These are leaks btw, so you will need to flash your odin skills.

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Look Im seeing A LOT of people complaining about the new update, I want to know which ROM is the best to use without the problems, I prefer to use ODIN and was wondering if the one click full restore for FF18 is having those problems or should I just wait for them to fix this problem before doing a system restore. I just got my phone back from samsung and was waiting to root for the update to come out but if there is problems with it I just prefer to wait.

Just do the one click full restore ff18. There is absolutely nothing wrong with ICS. Don't let anyone tell you there is.
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Just do the one click full restore ff18. There is absolutely nothing wrong with ICS. Don't let anyone tell you there is.
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+1 the ICS is fine. It is different and I think that is causing most of the issues for people.

tFF18 from Agat
AKush1279 said:
Look Im seeing A LOT of people complaining about the new update, I want to know which ROM is the best to use without the problems, I prefer to use ODIN and was wondering if the one click full restore for FF18 is having those problems or should I just wait for them to fix this problem before doing a system restore. I just got my phone back from samsung and was waiting to root for the update to come out but if there is problems with it I just prefer to wait.
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I used the stock leaks for quite a while, then tried out the tFF18 ROM (plus his custom kernal) from Agat. It seems like my battery life may have dropped slightly but overall loving it. There is nothing wrong with stock FF18, it is great also. When I upgraded to tFF18 I didn't wipe the phone and all my apps / settings worked fine still, because it's based on the stock ROM.

Gingerbread is definitely smoother as far as scrolling goes...
Other than that, the improvements in ICS seem to be to my liking. Google is definitely taking after cyanogen and putting in some stuff that more people want to see on the greatest OS Android!
Sent from my Super Galaxy'd SPH-D710

ICS
yeah dude, dont let anyione tell you that you get ****ty battery life, scrolling is like a crazy whore running after crack, the buttons sometimes dont work, the settings crash, facebook doesnt sync, exchange has problems. also
* Roaming Guard now ignores settings and alerts you continuously to improve your awareness.
* Adds a cool stuttering effect to chrome browser just in case you missed it the first time.
* Allows you to better focus on your phone while running or driving by not taking commands from a Bluetooth headphone set while the screen is of.
* Allows you to scroll from top to bottom of a list in .02 seconds even when you dont mean to for faster navigation.
* And many more!
It's all a small base of about 60% of the users that are experiencing this. And even thou our devs are great its hard to make a diamond out of ****.
Just saying FF18 should have just been a leak. Nothing more. There's a lot of really cool features ICS brings, but all the ICS roms that are there now are just themed versions of stock with different launchers. Just saying... 14 roms with all different colors... wtf?
This update, of course, does nothing to fix Sprint's horrid network. So, if you have a crumby data connection now you'll have one after as well =)

alexpatcas said:
yeah dude, dont let anyione tell you that you get ****ty battery life, scrolling is like a crazy whore running after crack, the buttons sometimes dont work, the settings crash, facebook doesnt sync, exchange has problems.
It's all a small base of about 60% of the users that are experiencing this. And even thou our devs are great its hard to make a diamond out of ****.
Just saying FF18 should have just been a leak. Nothing more. There's a lot of really cool features ICS brings, but all the ICS roms that are there now are just themed versions of stock with different launchers. Just saying... 14 roms with all different colors... wtf?
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Just because you have issues does not mean there are issues. I can have a ferrari that does not run right, that does not mean that ferrari's are bad. I sync exchange with no issues, never had bad battery, and settings do not crash. I would check your own setup and not blame ICS.

rujelus22 said:
Just because you have issues does not mean there are issues. I can have a ferrari that does not run right, that does not mean that ferrari's are bad. I sync exchange with no issues, never had bad battery, and settings do not crash. I would check your own setup and not blame ICS.
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yeah its stock.
and funny thing theres a **** load of forums that have these problems. people that dont want to root. look on sprints forums.
btw funny ears...lol

alexpatcas said:
yeah its stock.
and funny thing theres a **** load of forums that have these problems. people that dont want to root. look on sprints forums.
btw funny ears...lol
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Stock does not really mean anything, It could be apps your running in the background. I have used the leaks since day 1 and have my own ROM, and the only one I can say is an issue is scrolling.

http://community.sprint.com/baw/com...nes-and-devices/samsung/samsung_epic_4g_touch - check this **** out
see how applauded the update is.

Do you even know what you are talking about? Obviously not. Had you actually installed one of the '14 different colors' you would realize there are significant differences between custom roms. These devs spend vast amounts of time making these roms, various tweaks for battery life and performance , custom interfaces, and a ton of added features you will not see on any stock device. There is a hell of a lot more to it than choosing that perfect shade of blue. Don't discredit others hard work when you obviously have not made the slightest effort to educate yourself beyond looking at a couple of screen shots.

To answer the OP most of the roms are good, try them for yourself everybody has a different style. Start with a few of the Team Venum roms and go from there.

OP, if i were u, try out a few cuatom ics roms to see how u feel about them. I myself tried 2 - supernova and blu kuban. I ditched supernova bc it was laggy and slower than calkulin's v3.0 gb rom. But it was stable for me. I ditched blu kuban bc it wouldnt let kakaotalk work correctly and some apps would crash a few times. Otherwise, i loved it and wished i could've kept it on my phone. For now, i'm back with calkulin and just waiting for an ics setup that can meet and/or exceed the calkulin 3.0.

Ravaged Pheonix said:
Do you even know what you are talking about? Obviously not. Had you actually installed one of the '14 different colors' you would realize there are significant differences between custom roms. These devs spend vast amounts of time making these roms, various tweaks for battery life and performance , custom interfaces, and a ton of added features you will not see on any stock device. There is a hell of a lot more to it than choosing that perfect shade of blue. Don't discredit others hard work when you obviously have not made the slightest effort to educate yourself beyond looking at a couple of screen shots.
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did you just get mad? chill out bro. and as i said before is not the devs fault. It's hard to make the ff18 into anything slightly functional, sprint just threw **** at us.
I'm working on a rom with a dev right now, i haven't released a rom since the days of the diamond, so i wanna test it all the way. I'm leaving the rest to the public.

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did you just get mad? chill out bro. and as i said before is not the devs fault. It's hard to make the ff18 into anything slightly functional, sprint just threw **** at us.
I'm working on a rom with a dev right now, i haven't released a rom since the days of the diamond, so i wanna test it all the way. I'm leaving the rest to the public.
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It is not hard and FF18 is not crap. Just my opinion.

FF18 plays nice on some devices, bad for other devices since the FF builds. I'm running the calk 1.6 ICS ROM with agats custom kernel and I honestly couldn't be any happier... I can keep my captive button lights on and haptic feedback on. It's a dream. On stock ff18 or custom ROMs, it all goes wrong out of no where with issues like captive buttons not working sometimes unless I turn off screen and on or hit the vol button. I guess its a 50/50 chance.
I haven't tried the blu k ROM simply because it is over themed for my usage... maybe if there was a non themed version I would.

I just find it funny people have been begging for ics since forever.. Now it's here and people like "aww man f*ck ics.. It's not all that"... Don't let anybody steer you from going to ICS.. I was using GB since forever and like ics better &haven't had bad battery life.. Actually been better... People Also need to take in consideration what they run and have more realistic standards for battery life... It may take a while to find a set up you like but it's possible
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so...what ics roms do you guys like?
i'm using super galaxy

noahsarky said:
so...what ics roms do you guys like?
i'm using super galaxy
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I love Calks 1.6 ICS ROM with agats new kernel built from source sadly a game I love isn't that friendly with ICS so I might go back to Blazer 4.1 till some game devs learn to update their games for new OS updates lol

noahsarky said:
so...what ics roms do you guys like?
i'm using super galaxy
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I'm using the blu kuban rom.. I love the rom, all the features, battery life, and stability.. He put a lot of attention and hard work into the rom & supports it constantly...My only regret is not trying it sooner but I was still a noob and stock on GB (haven't had this phone long)
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Has development for the glide gone belly up?

I've loved this phone since I got it, and was terribly excited when it was successfully rooted. Many roms sprung up by a few devs, such as dman, and thegreatergood. But now, dman is prioritizing his daily driver, which is fine. Thegreatergood has disappeared due to personal reasons, which is also fine. I don't demand updates or anything, however it seems all the other smaller devs abandoned the device. Thegreatergood has 5 jellybean roms in the dev forum, and sadly none of them have been touched by anyone in almost a month. I'm starting to see issues with every 4.2.2 rom spontaneously fast booting, and there is no mention of any updates on Jelly Bean.
Basically, what I'm trying to ask is, is anyone out there working on something? I know asking for ETA's is a no-no, but I'm just asking if anyone has adopted development for this device? I use this phone for everything, and I'm not able to change to some of the more "preferred" devices such as the Nexus series. Is there anyone who knows of anything coming soon?
Sorry for the little wall of text, I'm just kinda sad that the glide seems to be dying off.

Worried about this too, the DEV section of forum seems to be totally dead.
AT&T seems to abandon this device too, since hasnt release a proper ICS ROM (It was like "Oh, ICS didnt work, lets leave it on GB").
Have to stay at GB because of that

dman with do what he can, I am sure. Other than that, I think development is dead.
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Moving off from rhis phone onto something nnewer
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Are there any decent QWERTY phones out there or any coming up this year?
I love this phone and it seems like there is no suitable replacement out there.

i would have to say that development isnt exactly dead... but its dying quickly... this phone isnt the main focus of the devs that hash out roms and tweaks for it anymore (for some not sure it ever was)... its an older phone now, there are bigger better phones out there (have been for a while). granted this is probably still the best qwerty phone, the interest to develop full time for it isnt.
i am sure here soon dman will put out whatever he is working on.... eventually...
in my opinion dont expect a 100% fully functional custom rom that isnt based on the stock ics... the only one i could say that is there is literom... all others out there arent even close.... we wont ever see 100% working JB...

Yeah, for a while I was checking in daily and flashing some patch, mod or rom like once a week! I am still happier on CM 10.1 than I was on GB or even the very nice ICS literom, but it would be great to see the list of fixes get worked on like they were.
I guess we are being put out to pasture, but I sure appreciate all the Devs did to help keep this phone feel great as long as it did!
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I'm part of the Covenant Team as well as a co-dev for the IcePop rom. All I can say. Is that I know most of the other devs are either spending more time with their families with the near stable roms having been released, and maybe a few are back in school for the spring semester. I personally looked into the graphical and appearance of the roms, not as much of the coding due to computer technical issues and spacial issues with my hard drive. But don't give up hope just yet! Our glide may have a comeback soon. who knows. There are still a ton of we glide users in this community that are working behind the scenes to push out either patches or completely new roms.

Nevermind.

You are kidding right? The dev forum is full of different roms for all tastes, ICS, JB, the like. As far as I am aware, nobody got a "free phone" as you say. People just donated to dman (who paid for his Cappy out of his own pocket), and rightfully so because he and thegreatergood put our phone on the map again with great ROMs and updates.

Vanilla Rootbox has been my DD for a while now. The 4.2.2 roms have very few issues and none of those affect me fortunately.
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Worried about this too, the DEV section of forum seems to be totally dead.
AT&T seems to abandon this device too, since hasnt release a proper ICS ROM (It was like "Oh, ICS didnt work, lets leave it on GB").
Have to stay at GB because of that
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Hmm, I don't think this is true. I got the busted ICS update for these devices when it was out before it was pulled. It was then posted a few weeks later again with the proper fix. You have to go through Kies, but you should have an ICS update for your device, at least to 4.0.4..

Really hope it hasn't died but at this point I am considering moving back to ICS just so my sound works properly. Sucks. If my VOIP calling worked correctly, CM10 is exactly what I want. Its so smooth and less bloated than the official ICS ROMs. I wouldn't even be considering a new device this year if we could get the sound issues fixed. But its gone on so long now that I would just like a straight answer from the few devs we have - is this issue ever going to be addressed?
I'm as happy as anyone to have any sort of development for the Glide and none of the developers owe us a thing. But this has been an issue for so long now, I wish we could just get a straight answer. Working on it, can't be fixed or they just don't care. Any answer is better than nothing at this point.

I really like the glide, because a like the tegra graphics for games, but, i like switch roms too. I hope that someone come to help us. Maybe we must wait a little more

Hi to all. I've tryed different roms till now. Im a noob still regarding android development, but i'm trying to learn a bit. I would definately love to have the VOIP calling enabled, photosphere less lag at wakeup for 4.2.2 and no lag for voice calls. Regarding photosphere, i've tryed it with every rom available i set permissions and everything. As far as what i observed is on 4.2.2 I can get 1 photo and then the app simply close. On ICS i can take up to 7 - 8 pics and after that the app close.

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Hmm, I don't think this is true. I got the busted ICS update for these devices when it was out before it was pulled. It was then posted a few weeks later again with the proper fix. You have to go through Kies, but you should have an ICS update for your device, at least to 4.0.4..
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I would be happy to be wrong, but as far as I know ATT has released ICS with much errors, after that released the GB again to roll everyone back.
Also, all the versions of ICS have the deep sleep issue, so they are totally unusable as a phone itself.
People that asked ATT support for a solution had unacceptable answer like "Reboot your phone once a day".
As for Kies, my phone is not recognized with any rom to update so I do everything manually.

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I would be happy to be wrong, but as far as I know ATT has released ICS with much errors, after that released the GB again to roll everyone back.
Also, all the versions of ICS have the deep sleep issue, so they are totally unusable as a phone itself.
People that asked ATT support for a solution had unacceptable answer like "Reboot your phone once a day".
As for Kies, my phone is not recognized with any rom to update so I do everything manually.
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The best answer I can give... Actually read the development section for our device...
ICS IcePop Rom -modded UCLJ3)
UCLJ3 rooted (ICS -the fixed one-)
you guys complaining about ICS need to read up through the development forum before coming here to complain...
as for JB users (including myself)
Liquid Smooth (has working panorama, video (with sound), sound recording, and skype like apps work)

To be honest, liquid smooth i dont try it a lot, but in the issues say, that skype doesnt work

Rawr0w0 said:
you guys complaining about ICS need to read up through the development forum before coming here to complain..
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Lol, and what?
I've mainly been reading the dev section for all the time, and tried most of the roms availible there.
Stock and modified 4.0.4 has problems with the GSM deep sleep issue, so do all the roms above 4.0.4 (4.1 and 4.2). All this makes a good toy out of the phone, but looses the main purpose - recieve calls and sms on time.
And yes, I've already tested the 4.2.2 version of liquid smooth, but skype and bluetooth are not working, as stated in OP.

braintweaker said:
Lol, and what?
I've mainly been reading the dev section for all the time, and tried most of the roms availible there.
Stock and modified 4.0.4 has problems with the GSM deep sleep issue, so do all the roms above 4.0.4 (4.1 and 4.2). All this makes a good toy out of the phone, but looses the main purpose - recieve calls and sms on time.
And yes, I've already tested the 4.2.2 version of liquid smooth, but skype and bluetooth are not working, as stated in OP.
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use Wake My Android Pro < for the deep sleep. it's a free app and it works on everything from GB + and it works