Anyone else feel like the phone ran better stock? - Samsung Epic 4G Touch

Maybe its just me, but when I first got the phone I had no problems.. Now after rooting and flashing custom roms I get random freezes, crazy battery drain and the infamous LOS.. and contrary to popular belief it has something to do with root.. I didn't root my phone or anything for at least a week after having it and none of the problems started until after.. Most people are having are probably having the same issues but since members on here always want to bite your head off anytime you say something they don't agree with, noone says anything. Im just making an observation and if you don't like it, feel free to hit the back button anyways, anyone feel the same way? BTW this isn't a rant against the developers. They are all great and I appreciate all the hard work.. I just feel like theres a missing link or something causing the problems.. what are ypur thoughts
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Lol, no.
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I feel the same way... I'm getting serious battery loss after flashing a few of these roms.. with stock Rom I was getting a good 20 hours moderate use.. now with custom roms I'm getting like 10 hourz... I'm In noway knocking on any devs.. I do appreciate everyones contribution... I think it's a lil still early in the galaxy development
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Mine ran great fresh out the box for sure, but thats also because it was fresh and had no apps installed etc lol.
Some roms seem to work better than others. Running Starbust 1.2 with zedo's 4.1 kernel and it's running absolutely great now, better than unrooted IMO.
Could be grass in greener on the other side syndrome, try unrooting and see if you still feel that it runs better stock. With ODIN it's pretty quick and easy to jump back from rooted to not and back again.
I will always be rooted because I love trying out new things and custom roms and overclocking/undervolting etc.. it's fun, like a hobby for sure. And sometimes that hobby especially with beta stuff isnt that stable lol!
Just having adfree and wifi tethering is more than enough reason for me to root. But when the really cool custom roms start coming out, it's gunna be on like donkey kong
I did run a rooted rom with the stock kernel, and I have to say I like zedo's better.
My 2 cents

jok3sta said:
Maybe its just me, but when I first got the phone I had no problems.. Now after rooting and flashing custom roms I get random freezes, crazy battery drain and the infamous LOS.. and contrary to popular belief it has something to do with root.. I didn't root my phone or anything for at least a week after having it and none of the problems started until after.. Most people are having are probably having the same issues but since members on here always want to bite your head off anytime you say something they don't agree with, noone says anything. Im just making an observation and if you don't like it, feel free to hit the back button anyways, anyone feel the same way? BTW this isn't a rant against the developers. They are all great and I appreciate all the hard work.. I just feel like theres a missing link or something causing t runninghe problems.. what are ypur thoughts
Tapatalkin' it from my Epic Touch 3g
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I'm running stock + root.
There's nothing even remotely interesting to me in the current incarnations of the 3-4 roms available - they are all stock+ mods+ bugs.
Thank you very much but I can install those mods myself.
It's your own fault your phone is running like crap - don't mod it if you don't know what you are doing.

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Most people are having are probably having the same issues
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Source?
My stock-rooted E4GT is working just fine. No LoS, no random reboots, no freezing up, no locking up... no bloat, great battery life, no BS.

I had a ton of issues with LOS and some random reboots on Zedomax's root kernel. Flashed to the stock + CMR and havent had an issue since.

I'll be serious now.
Aside from me disagreeing that root is the cause of LOS issues (I got them stock too) this is all part of the fun of modifying your gadgets.
Fun? Yeah, I said fun. These are insanely complex devices and it is still very early in their development cycle. If you aren't game then style out of it for a while until things mature. Hacking around ain't for everybody... As long as I maintain basic functionality I/we will (eventually) figure out the rest. That's the fun part.
That said I haven't experienced any of what you describe, besides a few unexpected FCs.
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nabbed said:
I'm running stock + root.
There's nothing even remotely interesting to me in the current incarnations of the 3-4 roms available - they are all stock+ mods+ bugs.
Thank you very much but I can install those mods myself.
It's your own fault your phone is running like crap - don't mod it if you don't know what you are doing.
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Haha ur a clown.. I've probably been modding my phones before you had your first smartphone. I've been modding smartphones since the T-Mobile mda days and Ive had 8 or 9 since then all modded. I know the risks that come with modding. So don't assume because you jus make an ass out of... well you know the rest. Anyway.. I was just making a statement to maybe see if others are having the same issues, or if maybe its just my handset. I'm going to try going back to Stock rooted and see if the issues continue.. right now I'm on starburst 1.2 with zedo 4.1.
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daneurysm said:
I'll be serious now.
Aside from me disagreeing that root is the cause of LOS issues (I got them stock too) this is all part of the fun of modifying your gadgets.
Fun? Yeah, I said fun. These are insanely complex devices and it is still very early in their development cycle. If you aren't game then style out of it for a while until things mature. Hacking around ain't for everybody... As long as I maintain basic functionality I/we will (eventually) figure out the rest. That's the fun part.
That said I haven't experienced any of what you describe, besides a few unexpected FCs.
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I agree with the fun part.. I mod anything I get my hands on. Not only my phones. Computers, cars you name it.. its in my nature.
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I'm stock with root, and it runs smoother than when I was on oc kernel
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I agree that LOS is not caused by rooted kernal. But, I did experience LOS alot more often than stock kernal. When I got the phone I stayed unrooted for a little over a week. I experienced 2 LOS during that time period. Once I finally rooted I was experiencing LOS @ least 3 times a day. LOS also drains the battery like crazy. One night I left the phone off the charger with 100% battery life. When I woke up, the phone was in LOS and only had 40% battery life. Well, today last night I finally switched to stock kernal. So far today no LOS.
I digress. Stock rom works perfect but I needed so mods that require root. The battery percent mod, wireless tether, and roam control. I think I'll wait for an AOSP rom before I try anything different roms.

I've tried all the currently available kernals for ths phone. I've rooted and unrooted. Right now, i'm on stock rooted. I'm still experiencing LOS, but it seems less frequent than when I was on custom kernals. It could be other criteria, though. I haven't tried any of the ROMs, only because I want a stock ROM to flash, if something goes wrong. I don't remember the epic taking this long to get the stock ROM available to us. My memory may be slipping, though.
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jok3sta said:
Haha ur a clown.. I've probably been modding my phones before you had your first smartphone. I've been modding smartphones since the T-Mobile mda days and Ive had 8 or 9 since then all modded. I know the risks that come with modding. So don't assume because you jus make an ass out of... well you know the rest. Anyway.. I was just making a statement to maybe see if others are having the same issues, or if maybe its just my handset. I'm going to try going back to Stock rooted and see if the issues continue.. right now I'm on starburst 1.2 with zedo 4.1.
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Stop whining!

nabbed said:
Stop whining!
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Not really sure where you see whining. But I do see a clown who has nothing better to do that reply to my "whining". thanks for the post bump though. Now back on topic.. lets keep this sucka free please
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this is why I will wait another week or 2 before rooting....this phone is awe sum as stock, but, like any newly released phone, it takes a few weeks before all the truly revolutionary stuff gets developed.
Most devs have a real job, a family, and a real life, so you can't really expect flashing "nirvana" only a week or so after a phone comes out.

jok3sta said:
I agree with the fun part.. I mod anything I get my hands on. Not only my phones. Computers, cars you name it.. its in my nature.
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Same mentality here my man. It's either rooted... Overclocked.... Or supercharged. I like things over the top lol. Heck even my gas powered scooters and rc cars are souped up. Sorry.... Back on target.
Samsung Galaxy S II

I'm stock since day 1, when the phone first released, and I get LOS once a day. It's killing me not to have root, but I am not modding unless there is a factory RUU available straight from Samsung. Personally, and to no discredit to the developers, I don't trust the stock rom pulled from another phone. This phone is just a bit too new for me to be permanently altering it without a 100% safe way back. The OG Epic was made almost unbrickable, so it's reasonable to assume that a year from now, we will be rolling like pigs in **** with cool stuff to flash.
But I get what you are saying, and honestly, the community did not explode like I thought it would. Seems to be more HTC fans these days then Samsung, and just judging from Samsung's post launch support, or lack thereof, I can understand why...
Furthermore, my 3G speeds were horrible day 1 and continue to suck balls. Most times at work I can't even browse the market because of timeouts. 4G seems to work good though, and that's the only reason I haven't just returned this phone yet.
Check this thread:
http://community.sprint.com/baw/thread/76962?start=0&tstart=0
This is sprint's official forum, and they are just now admitting to the crappy radio implementation on this phone. Should have seen this coming a mile away, but honestly I was just too busy looking at this gorgeous 4.52" AMOLED+ screen to notice...

This is the first phone I've had were I don't feel the need to root, and I wouldn't have rooted until it had been perfected more.
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my main reason for rooting was a few apps i had that needed root. as well as the battery percentage

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Rooting...good idea or bad??

So im thinkin to root my phone what u guys think should I?? What are the perks of doin it as well??
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Rooting is up to u man. If u want to do it. As far asks what u get it depends on what u flash. If u just want root then u have access to your /system partition. Use apps that require root permission. With a custom recovery U can flash custom kernels for overclock and undervolt purpose. You can flash custom ROMs.
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I would say no right now, to be honest.
I had a ton of troubles finding the right downloads to get it rooted. In the end, I rooted and installed Starburst and wasn't really impressed; I feel like there was nothing to even be able to edit. It was like running the stock ROM with a new lockscreen.
I'd hold off until development increases on this device. I'm probably going to unroot mine.
rooting is lots of fun, IF you know what the hell you are doing, BEFORE you start the process
Most problems that people have come from NOT READING and learning about it before they do it..
Just like anything else in life, if you don't read about it, and learn about it BEFORE you decide to do it, you will have problems.
It just blows my mind how many people get a phone, and root it and start flashing stuff without having any idea what they are doing, and then freak out when some thing goes wrong, and post frantic "please help me" stuff all over the internet..
Take the time to learn about it BEFORE you do it, and ask your questions BEFORE you start messing with your phone..If you won't do that, can't do that, or aren't smart enough to understand what you are reading, then don't root; this is a fantastic phone even if you never root it..
I was pessimistic aswell and took the plunge last night. Running Starburst its not the greatest but MUCH better than stock. Battery life is ludicrous. And much more fluid and responsive... My main reason was battery life and oh boy dose it help!
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See I rooted my evo 4g and I mean I liked it for the fact that I could do hella roms and I could overclock it cuz my friends had updated newer phones and just blowing me out the water with speed so I did it it was nice now in just stuck with this one cuz im not sure if its smart right now to do ya know
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Starbust rom does not come with theme. U have to apply it urself. There are alot of themes out there. SB its main point is to save battery and it did a great job.if u like to customize, remove bloatwares or tweak ur phone, root ur phone.
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I like viperom
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You can always reverse a root. it makes your phone even more functional than it already is.
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I say follow suit and hold off until development actually hatches.
I aint rooted, and will continue to do so until AOSP.
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ipetloudog said:
I say follow suit and hold off until development actually hatches.
I aint rooted, and will continue to do so until AOSP.
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THE root method will be the same.
Yeah, I just unrooted, actually.
I had a lot of fun going from ROM to ROM on my EVO4G, but right now there's just not enough out there for me to run away from the stock ROM. Once development really gets going, and maybe once Cyanogen hops on board with something legit, I'll root again.
..plus, I'm probably going to have to turn this phone in, so I had to unroot. I'm having this weird battery issue where it doesn't charge while the phone is on (well, it charges, but suppppppper slow and the phone gets hot as hell)
Speaking of that, if anyone reads this, any ideas on if I'll be able to get a brand new phone? I had to turn in my Evo once or twice, and they gave me a refurb both times. Screw that, I paid like $450 for this phone only 3ish weeks ago. There's no way I'll take a refurb.
Totally up to you dude. I am rooted myself and so far it's been great. Running Starburst latest ROM with OC. Great stuff so far.
saj1jr said:
Yeah, I just unrooted, actually.
I had a lot of fun going from ROM to ROM on my EVO4G, but right now there's just not enough out there for me to run away from the stock ROM. Once development really gets going, and maybe once Cyanogen hops on board with something legit, I'll root again.
..plus, I'm probably going to have to turn this phone in, so I had to unroot. I'm having this weird battery issue where it doesn't charge while the phone is on (well, it charges, but suppppppper slow and the phone gets hot as hell)
Speaking of that, if anyone reads this, any ideas on if I'll be able to get a brand new phone? I had to turn in my Evo once or twice, and they gave me a refurb both times. Screw that, I paid like $450 for this phone only 3ish weeks ago. There's no way I'll take a refurb.
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Phone is pretty new you may get lucky and there are not enough refurbs out there to give you back a new one
Shimmy808 said:
Totally up to you dude. I am rooted myself and so far it's been great. Running Starburst latest ROM with OC. Great stuff so far.
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I agree its totally up to the person but not like rooting and then unrooting is you difficult.... Hey may favorite line I have read in xda is "It aint yours till you root it" - words to live by....lol
Rooting is pretty easy on this phone, but I know there are not a lot of Devs compared to like the Evo 3d. The Devs we do have are all like pros at developing though, so they will be able to update and bring new things frequently. I rooted on Starburst's rom and I love it, because it's so Stock that it seems like its still and E4GT, but so different that I know its more smooth.
So im sewing u guys all like this starburst rom....I think I will wait lil bit longer to root when more roms comes out
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Two different Epics, two completely different needs

I know it's too late for most to be asking this, but I work 7 days a week from noon to 1am, so these are my actively posting and reading hours...hopefully when I wake up around 10am Pacific Time that I'll have some interesting answers.
So for me...running Legendary 2.2 ROM w/ the kernel that came w/ it, OC'd to 1.5GHZ using ROM Toolbox to control my CPU and SD read speeds. I realize this is only a 2.3.5 ROM running EC05, so I figure it might be time for a change/update. I'm happy w/ the ROM, but I imagine there is faster out there now. I don't care about batter life in the slightest because my phone is charging in it's dock for 4/5ths of my day. I want to get rid of the stupid screen fluttering/flashing that always seems to happen regardless of if I'm running a stock or extended battery, which seems to have been going on for maybe a year or so now...it's embarrassing and I'm tired of telling the same lie that I'm calibrating my battery, which is causing the flickering. I want OBSCENELY fast, no lagging, and no issues, ie no random reboots, locking, fast one moment that falls on it's face and laggy the next. I use my phone for streaming Pandora at work, surfing the internet and I'm a texting whore. I know NOTHING of ICS or of some of the latest GB ROMS, MTL vs BTL, pros and cons of any of the latest radios, but I've gotten the general idea that I'm going to steer clear of Cyanogen as I don't wanna be on anything that is still experimental and doesn't have 100% function of things like Bluetooth, WiFI, WiFi tethering (I tether to my car stereo everyday since it's an Android based 7" double din deck), making random calls w/o radio issues, etc.
For my friend...she's running a bone stock Epic on 2.3.6 running EL30. She has no root, no nothing...and she probably wouldn't know the wiser until I get my hands on it. She says she hates the phone compared to the EVO she lost, so I'm trying to revive her faith that she's holding onto a powerhouse w/ the right ROM and kernel combo. She's a lady in her late 40's to early 50's, could care less about fancy tweaks, etc...she just wants it to work, period. Apparently the proximity sensor isn't working since she complained to me that she'll be talking and suddenly the phone is muted and people can't hear her....could be her, could be lag in the phone, who's to say. I assume she wants a plain Jane ROM, just that I root it, delete some of the bloat and I'm guessing battery life is important since most women I know never remember to throw their phones on the charger until it's about to die anyways,,,sucks during those peak bootycall hours
Anyways, I'd love to hear opinions, preferably concrete from those who've tried one vs the other, for both her and my situations. I've been on Legendary so long now that mods I used to follow are gone, understanding what the acronyms between the []'s boxes has become confusing, and I swear there forums have jumped leaps and bounds in terms of complexity in deciding on which ROM to run.
In doing some quick reading tonight, I'm guessing CleanGB 2.2 for her, but I have no clue for my particular needs/issues.
Wrong section. Post it in Q&A.
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Don't know how you think cyanogen is expieremental. Its pretty stable, well cm9 is anyhow, cm7 has a video issue for some. But I run aokp, with the samurai kernel which is what legendary had in it. That kernel has come a long way since that ROM. If you click my banner it will take you to the site for them =] he has multiple platform kernels. Bml touchwiz or mtd, miui and miuiV4, cm7 and cm9/aokp. anyways not to persuade you once you try ICS you can't really go back... unless you have a extremely bad expierence for whatever reason. If you wish to stick to touchwiz, the peoples rom... is the way to go.
As for the lady friend, the same the peoples ROM. Its simple already removed of the bloat, and comes with a stable kernel, until earthbound releases his fc09 kernel for peoples rom. If she likes pink there is a nice dream of pink theme in the themes section by travmofosho. Its in the thread with bloody survival.
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phonehunter59 said:
Wrong section. Post it in Q&A.
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First off, what he said. After 400+ posts, you should know this. Kenny will move this shortly, I'm sure.
Secondly, MTD is a more stable format with more built-in room for apps for your phone. I highly recommend it.
After that, I recommend any EL30 or newer rom, as they're more stable than previous editions. Everybody has different results. There's a few, try them out.
Finally, if all that you use your phone for is "Pandora at work, surfing the internet and I'm a texting whore," then you should have no problem with your phone appearing "OBSCENELY fast." I regularly play Mario Kart 64 without so much as a hiccup and I have never overclocked beyond 1 Ghz.
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4am Pacific Time i create a thread. I ask a simple question in the custom ROM's subforum, get four replies within minutes of posting (not w/ the name of a ROM, but told I'm in the wrong place instead), thread gets towed to Q&A subforum, 5hrs later and not another reply since.
Awesome.
Correction - UBER edited his post, thanks for the input. That's all I wanted.
RandomKing also gave you an answer. Some gratitude that your thread was moved instead of deleted would also be nice. You, yourself said it was the middle of the night. Less attitudy would get you more answers.
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ÜBER™ said:
Don't know how you think cyanogen is expieremental. Its pretty stable, well cm9 is anyhow, cm7 has a video issue for some. But I run aokp, with the samurai kernel which is what legendary had in it. That kernel has come a long way since that ROM. If you click my banner it will take you to the site for them =] he has multiple platform kernels. Bml touchwiz or mtd, miui and miuiV4, cm7 and cm9/aokp. anyways not to persuade you once you try ICS you can't really go back... unless you have a extremely bad expierence for whatever reason. If you wish to stick to touchwiz, the peoples rom... is the way to go.
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I've basically stopped reading about CM* ROM's since they're always beta each time I've read about them in the past w/ the list of their various issues of things not working...maybe I'm just generalizing, but that's why I've stopped considering them.
I'm not sure if I've ever read up on AOKP (I will today) but I've run various version of Samurai overtop Legendary ROM and none really gave any differences in performance. I tried 4-5 different version w/ different speeds, not for the sake of trying to get my phone to be faster, but to stop the flickering I seem to get daily now.
I thought Touchwiz was just a launcher, but from your reply, I'm guessing it's more than that. If it's just a style of launcher, I personally use LauncherPro on my phone and my car stereo. I've used 7ZIP countless time to bake in my own custom APK's, battery meters, etc. Of all those names you mentioned, ICS sounds like the way to go. I'm going to go read about People's ROM again, but I'm assuming that's still GB.
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As for the lady friend, the same the peoples ROM. Its simple already removed of the bloat, and comes with a stable kernel, until earthbound releases his fc09 kernel for peoples rom. If she likes pink there is a nice dream of pink theme in the themes section by travmofosho. Its in the thread with bloody survival.
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I mentioned CleanGB since the guy mentioned in the title it'e nothing fancy. If People's ROM is the way to go for her, sounds like I need to find a version that was pre FC09? Has he already released hs FC09 version then, because you're wording makes it sound like it's aleady out and been test and not stable.
I thought about just installing Legendary for her since I've had a generally good experience w/ it (sans my screen fluttering, but I've read it might just be a my phone being old issue), but ever since reflashing it a week or so again (seperate issue), I now get daily updates for install and updated version of Spring trying to push a download to me. I don't wanna flash her phone w/ my ROM, then she has to see an annoying update. Sounds like People's ROM it is.
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First off, what he said. After 400+ posts, you should know this. Kenny will move this shortly, I'm sure.
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My post #5 above is why I posted in "the wrong subforum" as I got more replies there within minutes vs 5hrs later and I've gotten nothing since being told I was in the wrong place.
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Secondly, MTD is a more stable format with more built-in room for apps for your phone. I highly recommend it.
After that, I recommend any EL30 or newer rom, as they're more stable than previous editions. Everybody has different results. There's a few, try them out.
Finally, if all that you use your phone for is "Pandora at work, surfing the internet and I'm a texting whore," then you should have no problem with your phone appearing "OBSCENELY fast." I regularly play Mario Kart 64 without so much as a hiccup and I have never overclocked beyond 1 Ghz.
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I'm still educating myself on MTD, so thanks for that information.
As for any EL30 ROM, that's where I was hoping for an exact answer...someone else who's tried this vs that. Duly note that everyone has different results when running certain ROM's, so I guess I'll just have to try a couple and see where they take me. I work no less that 75hrs a week on the 787 program, which is why I've been on Legendary for so long...I'm always at work. I was hoping for a "just install xxxxxx ROM, I came from Legendary to this and I loved the change".
Granted, I listed my main uses of my phone, but it still has it's little glitches. It's fast, but very occasionally it gets noticeably slower (LauncherPro gets choppy between scrolling screen vs buttery smooth, sometimes the screen takes a few seconds to react vs everything being bam, bam, bam, etc), so I do a reboot and everything is snappy again. Unless the battery is at 100%, I still get the annoying flickering of the screen regardless of how many times I've tried recalibrating the battery, using different version of Samurai kernel. The only thing that stops the flickering (which I hate doing) is to dim the screen. I'm hoping a different ROM will he;p solve my issues across the board.
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RandomKing also gave you an answer. Some gratitude that your thread was moved instead of deleted would also be nice. You, yourself said it was the middle of the night. Less attitudy would get you more answers.
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RandonKing gave me a generalized statement, ie which radio to go with, not a specific name of a specific ROM. That's more or less what I was hoping for. The MTD is good information though.
I posted in the subforum I did because I knew what would happen once it got towed here...which has in fact happened. It's not about showing gratitude or less "attitudy". I just wanted a question answered and posted in the place I new it'd get the most popular exposure to my specific questions vs being thrown into a bowl of questions that range from people favorite themes to how come my WiFi won't connect. I wanted a specific ROM question, so I asked in the subforum that discussed those and those alone.
Just play with some ROMs and see what you like. Like most will say, once you hop on CM9 or AOKP you won't go back. There's 0 reasons to be on ec05.
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Please do not post question threads in the Development section again. I do not like to give infractions but will for people crying for attention.
Now to answer your questions Touchwiz is not a launcher, it has a launcher. It is the default framework used by Samsung for these phones. Anything based on Samsung software such as EL30 or FC09 is Touchwiz. For the best EL30 ROM I feel CleanGB is it. For the best FC09 choose The People's ROM 2.0. Grab the first links stating clean versions.
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Just so you know CM7 is ROCK SOLID!!!!! Both me and the wife are on it with no issues. CM9 is solid but still work in progress I am waiting to make that jump back to 9 once it goes to RC. I have tried the Peoples it is solid as well it really depends on your needs and how your particular phone reacts to a ROM. Both mine and my wife's phone are slightly different with the exact same setup. As far as radios are concerned update to EL30 at least. If you have a hard time locating the files let me know just PM me. I haven't been around much lately real life getting in the way.
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I've basically stopped reading about CM* ROM's since they're always beta each time I've read about them in the past w/ the list of their various issues of things not working...maybe I'm just generalizing, but that's why I've stopped considering them.
I'm not sure if I've ever read up on AOKP (I will today) but I've run various version of Samurai overtop Legendary ROM and none really gave any differences in performance. I tried 4-5 different version w/ different speeds, not for the sake of trying to get my phone to be faster, but to stop the flickering I seem to get daily now.
I thought Touchwiz was just a launcher, but from your reply, I'm guessing it's more than that. If it's just a style of launcher, I personally use LauncherPro on my phone and my car stereo. I've used 7ZIP countless time to bake in my own custom APK's, battery meters, etc. Of all those names you mentioned, ICS sounds like the way to go. I'm going to go read about People's ROM again, but I'm assuming that's still GB.
I mentioned CleanGB since the guy mentioned in the title it'e nothing fancy. If People's ROM is the way to go for her, sounds like I need to find a version that was pre FC09? Has he already released hs FC09 version then, because you're wording makes it sound like it's aleady out and been test and not stable.
I thought about just installing Legendary for her since I've had a generally good experience w/ it (sans my screen fluttering, but I've read it might just be a my phone being old issue), but ever since reflashing it a week or so again (seperate issue), I now get daily updates for install and updated version of Spring trying to push a download to me. I don't wanna flash her phone w/ my ROM, then she has to see an annoying update. Sounds like People's ROM it is.
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Yeah cyanogen is stable for the most part.. there are a few tiny perks but i've never had any issues on it. As for the samurai kernel ... like i've said your probably flashing older versions that are for EI22 which is what legendary is and thats the source of your problem... hes fixed and has perfected his kernels recently. What i mean with fc09 is that there isnt a samurai for fc09 as of yet... but the one that comes with it is nice and stable and simple... its not as tweaked as the samurai kernel.. its relatively stockish. So you dont need a pre fc09 version because there isnt one. So yes the peoples ROM will more than likely be the ROM for her... its still GB smooth and stable, and if she wants so more "taste" to it and she likes pink... go to the themes section and there is one in there for her .
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m5james said:
My post #5 above is why I posted in "the wrong subforum" as I got more replies there within minutes vs 5hrs later and I've gotten nothing since being told I was in the wrong place.
I'm still educating myself on MTD, so thanks for that information.
As for any EL30 ROM, that's where I was hoping for an exact answer...someone else who's tried this vs that. Duly note that everyone has different results when running certain ROM's, so I guess I'll just have to try a couple and see where they take me. I work no less that 75hrs a week on the 787 program, which is why I've been on Legendary for so long...I'm always at work. I was hoping for a "just install xxxxxx ROM, I came from Legendary to this and I loved the change".
Granted, I listed my main uses of my phone, but it still has it's little glitches. It's fast, but very occasionally it gets noticeably slower (LauncherPro gets choppy between scrolling screen vs buttery smooth, sometimes the screen takes a few seconds to react vs everything being bam, bam, bam, etc), so I do a reboot and everything is snappy again. Unless the battery is at 100%, I still get the annoying flickering of the screen regardless of how many times I've tried recalibrating the battery, using different version of Samurai kernel. The only thing that stops the flickering (which I hate doing) is to dim the screen. I'm hoping a different ROM will he;p solve my issues across the board.
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OH and the flickering.. is the RGB values and the Gama values being to high... its does a weird lines accross the screen??? especially on white screens? Then thats to blame. Get voodoo sound from the market and go to the voodoo color settings and lower the RGB's and the Gama.. As i said previously... your flashing old versions of the Samurai kernels... his newest ones arent for ei22 but EL30 so if you update... you will have a much smoother phone. Also... if you phone is being used for more than 15 hours.. the cache builds... then it forces apps to use more RAM... and this slows stuff down... Reboots are nessecary. Also the newest samurai has much better memory management... which will do this for you.. i got more than a day without a reboot and its just as smooth as it was when i first put in the battery... and im on ICS.. which uses a TON of RAM and requires more to run... and its still as slick as GB.
IMO nothing g is better than CleanGB EL30 MTD.
CM roms are always buggy it seems to me, no matter who likes them or says they are stable/great. I'd never use one, and certainly would never put one on another persons phone.
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kennyglass123 said:
Please do not post question threads in the Development section again. I do not like to give infractions but will for people crying for attention.
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Crying? Over-exaggerate, don't you think? I got the point, you don't have to belittle me as well for asking a question on a subforum that spoke of nothing more than the ROM's I'm in question about.
m5james said:
Crying? Over-exaggerate, don't you think? I got the point, you don't have to belittle me as well for asking a question on a subforum that spoke of nothing more than the ROM's I'm in question about.
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Probably not smart to argue with the mod... Just saying
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m5james said:
Crying? Over-exaggerate, don't you think? I got the point, you don't have to belittle me as well for asking a question on a subforum that spoke of nothing more than the ROM's I'm in question about.
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Yes you were *****ing in android development to get attention... id suggest removing this post before the mod removes you from xda.
I have given a ton of help you'd be smart to help your self and remove you post. And I will remove my quote.
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You admitted to deliberately posting in Development to get attention for a non-emergency question no less...big cry for attention. I suggest you read the forum rules.

Best ICS Rom

Look Im seeing A LOT of people complaining about the new update, I want to know which ROM is the best to use without the problems, I prefer to use ODIN and was wondering if the one click full restore for FF18 is having those problems or should I just wait for them to fix this problem before doing a system restore. I just got my phone back from samsung and was waiting to root for the update to come out but if there is problems with it I just prefer to wait.
Just do the one click full restore ff18. There is absolutely nothing wrong with ICS. Don't let anyone tell you there is.
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revamper said:
Just do the one click full restore ff18. There is absolutely nothing wrong with ICS. Don't let anyone tell you there is.
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+1 the ICS is fine. It is different and I think that is causing most of the issues for people.
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AKush1279 said:
Look Im seeing A LOT of people complaining about the new update, I want to know which ROM is the best to use without the problems, I prefer to use ODIN and was wondering if the one click full restore for FF18 is having those problems or should I just wait for them to fix this problem before doing a system restore. I just got my phone back from samsung and was waiting to root for the update to come out but if there is problems with it I just prefer to wait.
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I used the stock leaks for quite a while, then tried out the tFF18 ROM (plus his custom kernal) from Agat. It seems like my battery life may have dropped slightly but overall loving it. There is nothing wrong with stock FF18, it is great also. When I upgraded to tFF18 I didn't wipe the phone and all my apps / settings worked fine still, because it's based on the stock ROM.
Gingerbread is definitely smoother as far as scrolling goes...
Other than that, the improvements in ICS seem to be to my liking. Google is definitely taking after cyanogen and putting in some stuff that more people want to see on the greatest OS Android!
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ICS
yeah dude, dont let anyione tell you that you get ****ty battery life, scrolling is like a crazy whore running after crack, the buttons sometimes dont work, the settings crash, facebook doesnt sync, exchange has problems. also
* Roaming Guard now ignores settings and alerts you continuously to improve your awareness.
* Adds a cool stuttering effect to chrome browser just in case you missed it the first time.
* Allows you to better focus on your phone while running or driving by not taking commands from a Bluetooth headphone set while the screen is of.
* Allows you to scroll from top to bottom of a list in .02 seconds even when you dont mean to for faster navigation.
* And many more!
It's all a small base of about 60% of the users that are experiencing this. And even thou our devs are great its hard to make a diamond out of ****.
Just saying FF18 should have just been a leak. Nothing more. There's a lot of really cool features ICS brings, but all the ICS roms that are there now are just themed versions of stock with different launchers. Just saying... 14 roms with all different colors... wtf?
This update, of course, does nothing to fix Sprint's horrid network. So, if you have a crumby data connection now you'll have one after as well =)
alexpatcas said:
yeah dude, dont let anyione tell you that you get ****ty battery life, scrolling is like a crazy whore running after crack, the buttons sometimes dont work, the settings crash, facebook doesnt sync, exchange has problems.
It's all a small base of about 60% of the users that are experiencing this. And even thou our devs are great its hard to make a diamond out of ****.
Just saying FF18 should have just been a leak. Nothing more. There's a lot of really cool features ICS brings, but all the ICS roms that are there now are just themed versions of stock with different launchers. Just saying... 14 roms with all different colors... wtf?
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Just because you have issues does not mean there are issues. I can have a ferrari that does not run right, that does not mean that ferrari's are bad. I sync exchange with no issues, never had bad battery, and settings do not crash. I would check your own setup and not blame ICS.
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Just because you have issues does not mean there are issues. I can have a ferrari that does not run right, that does not mean that ferrari's are bad. I sync exchange with no issues, never had bad battery, and settings do not crash. I would check your own setup and not blame ICS.
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yeah its stock.
and funny thing theres a **** load of forums that have these problems. people that dont want to root. look on sprints forums.
btw funny ears...lol
alexpatcas said:
yeah its stock.
and funny thing theres a **** load of forums that have these problems. people that dont want to root. look on sprints forums.
btw funny ears...lol
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Stock does not really mean anything, It could be apps your running in the background. I have used the leaks since day 1 and have my own ROM, and the only one I can say is an issue is scrolling.
http://community.sprint.com/baw/com...nes-and-devices/samsung/samsung_epic_4g_touch - check this **** out
see how applauded the update is.
Do you even know what you are talking about? Obviously not. Had you actually installed one of the '14 different colors' you would realize there are significant differences between custom roms. These devs spend vast amounts of time making these roms, various tweaks for battery life and performance , custom interfaces, and a ton of added features you will not see on any stock device. There is a hell of a lot more to it than choosing that perfect shade of blue. Don't discredit others hard work when you obviously have not made the slightest effort to educate yourself beyond looking at a couple of screen shots.
To answer the OP most of the roms are good, try them for yourself everybody has a different style. Start with a few of the Team Venum roms and go from there.
OP, if i were u, try out a few cuatom ics roms to see how u feel about them. I myself tried 2 - supernova and blu kuban. I ditched supernova bc it was laggy and slower than calkulin's v3.0 gb rom. But it was stable for me. I ditched blu kuban bc it wouldnt let kakaotalk work correctly and some apps would crash a few times. Otherwise, i loved it and wished i could've kept it on my phone. For now, i'm back with calkulin and just waiting for an ics setup that can meet and/or exceed the calkulin 3.0.
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Do you even know what you are talking about? Obviously not. Had you actually installed one of the '14 different colors' you would realize there are significant differences between custom roms. These devs spend vast amounts of time making these roms, various tweaks for battery life and performance , custom interfaces, and a ton of added features you will not see on any stock device. There is a hell of a lot more to it than choosing that perfect shade of blue. Don't discredit others hard work when you obviously have not made the slightest effort to educate yourself beyond looking at a couple of screen shots.
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did you just get mad? chill out bro. and as i said before is not the devs fault. It's hard to make the ff18 into anything slightly functional, sprint just threw **** at us.
I'm working on a rom with a dev right now, i haven't released a rom since the days of the diamond, so i wanna test it all the way. I'm leaving the rest to the public.
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did you just get mad? chill out bro. and as i said before is not the devs fault. It's hard to make the ff18 into anything slightly functional, sprint just threw **** at us.
I'm working on a rom with a dev right now, i haven't released a rom since the days of the diamond, so i wanna test it all the way. I'm leaving the rest to the public.
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It is not hard and FF18 is not crap. Just my opinion.
FF18 plays nice on some devices, bad for other devices since the FF builds. I'm running the calk 1.6 ICS ROM with agats custom kernel and I honestly couldn't be any happier... I can keep my captive button lights on and haptic feedback on. It's a dream. On stock ff18 or custom ROMs, it all goes wrong out of no where with issues like captive buttons not working sometimes unless I turn off screen and on or hit the vol button. I guess its a 50/50 chance.
I haven't tried the blu k ROM simply because it is over themed for my usage... maybe if there was a non themed version I would.
I just find it funny people have been begging for ics since forever.. Now it's here and people like "aww man f*ck ics.. It's not all that"... Don't let anybody steer you from going to ICS.. I was using GB since forever and like ics better &haven't had bad battery life.. Actually been better... People Also need to take in consideration what they run and have more realistic standards for battery life... It may take a while to find a set up you like but it's possible
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so...what ics roms do you guys like?
i'm using super galaxy
noahsarky said:
so...what ics roms do you guys like?
i'm using super galaxy
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I love Calks 1.6 ICS ROM with agats new kernel built from source sadly a game I love isn't that friendly with ICS so I might go back to Blazer 4.1 till some game devs learn to update their games for new OS updates lol
noahsarky said:
so...what ics roms do you guys like?
i'm using super galaxy
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I'm using the blu kuban rom.. I love the rom, all the features, battery life, and stability.. He put a lot of attention and hard work into the rom & supports it constantly...My only regret is not trying it sooner but I was still a noob and stock on GB (haven't had this phone long)
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Sorry but I may be leaving the root community for good

I've suspected for a long time that custom ROMs have been the source of all my frustrations with the Gnex. I unlocked and rooted on the first day and even though there wasn't much in the way of custom Roms with 4.0 I was excited to try all the different mods that were slowly flooding XDA and RootzWiki.
This wasn't my 1st experience with root either. I owned the Dinc and loved the idea of tinkering with my device. I learned a lot. Mainly that you should ALWAYS MAKE A BACKUP. and take the extra minute to wipe everything. I don't even use TI backup anymore because I wanted to start over from scratch any time I flashed a new ROM.
I say this because I know there are ppl in the forums that are smarter than I when it comes to Android. There are also some of those same ppl that will assume that I made some sort of noob mistake and I should try "wiping data" or something. Trust me, I've tried that and it doesn't fix it.
My main issues have been:
*losing data connection for no reason and eventually having to reboot in order to restore data.
*Weak network/WiFi.
Now I know there is a thread on rootz that addresses the bars and how inaccurate they are. But when two identical devices sit down in the same place and run speed test. My Gnex can slow to a snails pace at times. The wierdest thing about this is that it only seems to do it sporadically, which makes recreating it almost impossible. Although it seems most frequent at work, but that maybe because I spend an ungodly amount of time at my office.
*Lag/freezes
I know its not gonna work perfectly all the time and sometimes you have to reboot your phone just to give it a chance to reset itself and that's cool but when you do that and it doesn't fix the sluggishness of the phone then I feel there is a problem.
* problems with certain system functions like Bluetooth or GPS
Now this may be only an issue with particular Roms which may be known to have problems with certain aspects of the system. For instance, it seems pretty common from what I've seen on the forums that GPS is an issue for some on 4.2. I was actually on 4.2 this morning until I went to punch in an address from a text msg to Navigation and it wouldn't lock on my location. I got frustrated and decided to wipe and install the AOKP milestone I had saved and when I set everything back up guess what? Navigation still wouldn't lock on. I ended up having to bail out on some guys because I could find there house. I got home and found a stock ROM online. I wiped, flashed and setup my phone for the second time today. I downloaded Maps and immediately went to find the address and it was insane how fast it locked on a location.
There are other issues but I'm becoming long winded so I'll try to wrap it up.
Now I'm not one to dismiss my own part in my problems. I've certainly tried to address them when/if they arise with what little knowledge I have and the ability to learn what I can. I e emailed devs amd talked to others and sometimes it helps, but sometimes like this morning you just want things to work when you need them to without wasting your time having to revert to a nandroid or doing some other wizardry.
"Well, why don't you just go buy an iPhone then?" you might say
I've actually contemplated it but I do really like android, Google Maps are the **** (I depend on Navigation a lot )and I like to be able to customize. And I also don't really want to pay the money to terminate my contract so I'm kinda just stuck. But I thought about doing one thing.
A couple weeks ago, I unrooted and relocked my phone and flashed stock images for JB on CDMA and from there all I did was unlock and root keeping it stock and I tell you I glad I did because all my problems no longer seem to exist. My battery life might not be what I was getting on 4.2 these last couple days but I think I'm willing to stick with this for now until Verizon gets off their ass and pushes an update to us.
I'm not trying to rant to the Dev community or complain that y'all aren't living up to my satisfaction. Hell, maybe somebody might have a solution I haven't tried yet. I'm just putting this out there in case someone was having the same trouble and could get some help.
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On ParanoidAndroid 2.54 + franco.kernel r300. None of the problems you mentioned are present or has ever happened with me. Perhaps if you didn't mod your phone so much as to NOT be able to pinpoint a problem is where you went wrong.
Who knows? I surely don't. Don't know you but I don't think I'll be noticing your absence. Good luck with everything!
automaddux said:
I've suspected for a long time that custom ROMs have been the source of all my frustrations with the Gnex. I unlocked and rooted on the first day and even though there wasn't much in the way of custom Roms with 4.0 I was excited to try all the different mods that were slowly flooding XDA and RootzWiki.
This wasn't my 1st experience with root either. I owned the Dinc and loved the idea of tinkering with my device. I learned a lot. Mainly that you should ALWAYS MAKE A BACKUP. and take the extra minute to wipe everything. I don't even use TI backup anymore because I wanted to start over from scratch any time I flashed a new ROM.
I say this because I know there are ppl in the forums that are smarter than I when it comes to Android. There are also some of those same ppl that will assume that I made some sort of noob mistake and I should try "wiping data" or something. Trust me, I've tried that and it doesn't fix it.
My main issues have been:
*losing data connection for no reason and eventually having to reboot in order to restore data.
*Weak network/WiFi.
Now I know there is a thread on rootz that addresses the bars and how inaccurate they are. But when two identical devices sit down in the same place and run speed test. My Gnex can slow to a snails pace at times. The wierdest thing about this is that it only seems to do it sporadically, which makes recreating it almost impossible. Although it seems most frequent at work, but that maybe because I spend an ungodly amount of time at my office.
*Lag/freezes
I know its not gonna work perfectly all the time and sometimes you have to reboot your phone just to give it a chance to reset itself and that's cool but when you do that and it doesn't fix the sluggishness of the phone then I feel there is a problem.
* problems with certain system functions like Bluetooth or GPS
Now this may be only an issue with particular Roms which may be known to have problems with certain aspects of the system. For instance, it seems pretty common from what I've seen on the forums that GPS is an issue for some on 4.2. I was actually on 4.2 this morning until I went to punch in an address from a text msg to Navigation and it wouldn't lock on my location. I got frustrated and decided to wipe and install the AOKP milestone I had saved and when I set everything back up guess what? Navigation still wouldn't lock on. I ended up having to bail out on some guys because I could find there house. I got home and found a stock ROM online. I wiped, flashed and setup my phone for the second time today. I downloaded Maps and immediately went to find the address and it was insane how fast it locked on a location.
There are other issues but I'm becoming long winded so I'll try to wrap it up.
Now I'm not one to dismiss my own part in my problems. I've certainly tried to address them when/if they arise with what little knowledge I have and the ability to learn what I can. I e emailed devs amd talked to others and sometimes it helps, but sometimes like this morning you just want things to work when you need them to without wasting your time having to revert to a nandroid or doing some other wizardry.
"Well, why don't you just go buy an iPhone then?" you might say
I've actually contemplated it but I do really like android, Google Maps are the **** (I depend on Navigation a lot )and I like to be able to customize. And I also don't really want to pay the money to terminate my contract so I'm kinda just stuck. But I thought about doing one thing.
A couple weeks ago, I unrooted and relocked my phone and flashed stock images for JB on CDMA and from there all I did was unlock and root keeping it stock and I tell you I glad I did because all my problems no longer seem to exist. My battery life might not be what I was getting on 4.2 these last couple days but I think I'm willing to stick with this for now until Verizon gets off their ass and pushes an update to us.
I'm not trying to rant to the Dev community or complain that y'all aren't living up to my satisfaction. Hell, maybe somebody might have a solution I haven't tried yet. I'm just putting this out there in case someone was having the same trouble and could get some help.
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Thats cool, you already tried your fair share of roms, if none of them worked for you the stock is the best with unsurpassed stability. Despite whats advertised about the nexus, the stock android firmware is excellent too, specially when you want something that just plain works.
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Great story brother. Thanks for sharing.
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bk201doesntexist said:
Great story brother. Thanks for sharing.
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Keep coming..it works if you work it
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goodbye person ive never seen post before. hope you figure out your problems
Stock is the way to go, but you don't have to leave the xda because you no longer run a custom ROM. there is a lot of useful information that is shared here that doesn't necessarily apply to custom ROM.
I am also running stock rom from now on.
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automaddux said:
I've suspected for a long time that custom ROMs have been the source of all my frustrations with the Gnex. I unlocked and rooted on the first day and even though there wasn't much in the way of custom Roms with 4.0 I was excited to try all the different mods that were slowly flooding XDA and RootzWiki.
This wasn't my 1st experience with root either. I owned the Dinc and loved the idea of tinkering with my device. I learned a lot. Mainly that you should ALWAYS MAKE A BACKUP. and take the extra minute to wipe everything. I don't even use TI backup anymore because I wanted to start over from scratch any time I flashed a new ROM.
I say this because I know there are ppl in the forums that are smarter than I when it comes to Android. There are also some of those same ppl that will assume that I made some sort of noob mistake and I should try "wiping data" or something. Trust me, I've tried that and it doesn't fix it.
My main issues have been:
*losing data connection for no reason and eventually having to reboot in order to restore data.
*Weak network/WiFi.
Now I know there is a thread on rootz that addresses the bars and how inaccurate they are. But when two identical devices sit down in the same place and run speed test. My Gnex can slow to a snails pace at times. The wierdest thing about this is that it only seems to do it sporadically, which makes recreating it almost impossible. Although it seems most frequent at work, but that maybe because I spend an ungodly amount of time at my office.
*Lag/freezes
I know its not gonna work perfectly all the time and sometimes you have to reboot your phone just to give it a chance to reset itself and that's cool but when you do that and it doesn't fix the sluggishness of the phone then I feel there is a problem.
* problems with certain system functions like Bluetooth or GPS
Now this may be only an issue with particular Roms which may be known to have problems with certain aspects of the system. For instance, it seems pretty common from what I've seen on the forums that GPS is an issue for some on 4.2. I was actually on 4.2 this morning until I went to punch in an address from a text msg to Navigation and it wouldn't lock on my location. I got frustrated and decided to wipe and install the AOKP milestone I had saved and when I set everything back up guess what? Navigation still wouldn't lock on. I ended up having to bail out on some guys because I could find there house. I got home and found a stock ROM online. I wiped, flashed and setup my phone for the second time today. I downloaded Maps and immediately went to find the address and it was insane how fast it locked on a location.
There are other issues but I'm becoming long winded so I'll try to wrap it up.
Now I'm not one to dismiss my own part in my problems. I've certainly tried to address them when/if they arise with what little knowledge I have and the ability to learn what I can. I e emailed devs amd talked to others and sometimes it helps, but sometimes like this morning you just want things to work when you need them to without wasting your time having to revert to a nandroid or doing some other wizardry.
"Well, why don't you just go buy an iPhone then?" you might say
I've actually contemplated it but I do really like android, Google Maps are the **** (I depend on Navigation a lot )and I like to be able to customize. And I also don't really want to pay the money to terminate my contract so I'm kinda just stuck. But I thought about doing one thing.
A couple weeks ago, I unrooted and relocked my phone and flashed stock images for JB on CDMA and from there all I did was unlock and root keeping it stock and I tell you I glad I did because all my problems no longer seem to exist. My battery life might not be what I was getting on 4.2 these last couple days but I think I'm willing to stick with this for now until Verizon gets off their ass and pushes an update to us.
I'm not trying to rant to the Dev community or complain that y'all aren't living up to my satisfaction. Hell, maybe somebody might have a solution I haven't tried yet. I'm just putting this out there in case someone was having the same trouble and could get some help.
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I hope you really didn't write all of this from your nexus lol. But just go to stock...simple :thumbup:
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I see how you feel abouyt this. I have had issues as well. It really stems from what Roms are and what we expect from them. The term Night lies have lost a little bit of its worry recently because they are fairly bug free. But that doesn't mean that little tweaks and mods aren't killing battery life and deteriorate over time due to bad patches and coding.
That said I would highly recommend checking out BuglessBeast. They are not night lies by any means. They are highly stable AOSP Roms that perform much better then anything else on the market. He has few commits aside from under the hood tweaks. Reboot menu, emoji and a slight few other things are it. I have never had an issue with them and recommend checking them out. Also they are pretty much the only VZW app compatible ROM. Peter has been building BuglessBeast since Eclair on the Droid1 (almost 3 years now). Always providing an excellent experience.
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Flashaholics anonymous?
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Stock + root is the way to go for me on Nexus phones. On my last non Nexus (SGS3) I was always flashing new roms trying to look for something that just works, but I am tired of it. On my Nexus S and GNexus, stock rom is amazing, I don't need anything else.
automaddux said:
I've suspected for a long time that custom ROMs have been the source of all my frustrations with the Gnex. I unlocked and rooted on the first day and even though there wasn't much in the way of custom Roms with 4.0 I was excited to try all the different mods that were slowly flooding XDA and RootzWiki.
This wasn't my 1st experience with root either. I owned the Dinc and loved the idea of tinkering with my device. I learned a lot. Mainly that you should ALWAYS MAKE A BACKUP. and take the extra minute to wipe everything. I don't even use TI backup anymore because I wanted to start over from scratch any time I flashed a new ROM.
I say this because I know there are ppl in the forums that are smarter than I when it comes to Android. There are also some of those same ppl that will assume that I made some sort of noob mistake and I should try "wiping data" or something. Trust me, I've tried that and it doesn't fix it.
My main issues have been:
*losing data connection for no reason and eventually having to reboot in order to restore data.
*Weak network/WiFi.
Now I know there is a thread on rootz that addresses the bars and how inaccurate they are. But when two identical devices sit down in the same place and run speed test. My Gnex can slow to a snails pace at times. The wierdest thing about this is that it only seems to do it sporadically, which makes recreating it almost impossible. Although it seems most frequent at work, but that maybe because I spend an ungodly amount of time at my office.
*Lag/freezes
I know its not gonna work perfectly all the time and sometimes you have to reboot your phone just to give it a chance to reset itself and that's cool but when you do that and it doesn't fix the sluggishness of the phone then I feel there is a problem.
* problems with certain system functions like Bluetooth or GPS
Now this may be only an issue with particular Roms which may be known to have problems with certain aspects of the system. For instance, it seems pretty common from what I've seen on the forums that GPS is an issue for some on 4.2. I was actually on 4.2 this morning until I went to punch in an address from a text msg to Navigation and it wouldn't lock on my location. I got frustrated and decided to wipe and install the AOKP milestone I had saved and when I set everything back up guess what? Navigation still wouldn't lock on. I ended up having to bail out on some guys because I could find there house. I got home and found a stock ROM online. I wiped, flashed and setup my phone for the second time today. I downloaded Maps and immediately went to find the address and it was insane how fast it locked on a location.
There are other issues but I'm becoming long winded so I'll try to wrap it up.
Now I'm not one to dismiss my own part in my problems. I've certainly tried to address them when/if they arise with what little knowledge I have and the ability to learn what I can. I e emailed devs amd talked to others and sometimes it helps, but sometimes like this morning you just want things to work when you need them to without wasting your time having to revert to a nandroid or doing some other wizardry.
"Well, why don't you just go buy an iPhone then?" you might say
I've actually contemplated it but I do really like android, Google Maps are the **** (I depend on Navigation a lot )and I like to be able to customize. And I also don't really want to pay the money to terminate my contract so I'm kinda just stuck. But I thought about doing one thing.
A couple weeks ago, I unrooted and relocked my phone and flashed stock images for JB on CDMA and from there all I did was unlock and root keeping it stock and I tell you I glad I did because all my problems no longer seem to exist. My battery life might not be what I was getting on 4.2 these last couple days but I think I'm willing to stick with this for now until Verizon gets off their ass and pushes an update to us.
I'm not trying to rant to the Dev community or complain that y'all aren't living up to my satisfaction. Hell, maybe somebody might have a solution I haven't tried yet. I'm just putting this out there in case someone was having the same trouble and could get some help.
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I'm with this guy as well... I upgraded to a stock 4.2 rom (with root, but not a custom build).. and I have been smooth sailing since. It seems with all these custom roms and kernels there are nothing but issues. Sure, they're a TAD faster or offer little tweaks but when you need to use your device in the real world and it f*cking reboots while navigating somewhere because of a stupid tweak you made.. well, I can't see why it's even needed.
This phone runs very well with Stock+Root. I normally root devices because of different apps I like to use, and the ability to make custom backups...but I dont normally try anything bleeding edge...lol.
Partly because of my experience on an HTC phone...hated Sense and bought the GNex because of the AOSP.
akira02rex said:
I'm with this guy as well... I upgraded to a stock 4.2 rom (with root, but not a custom build).. and I have been smooth sailing since. It seems with all these custom roms and kernels there are nothing but issues. Sure, they're a TAD faster or offer little tweaks but when you need to use your device in the real world and it f*cking reboots while navigating somewhere because of a stupid tweak you made.. well, I can't see why it's even needed.
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No need to bash the custom roms that some devs here work so hard to make, i agree that stock is amazing but android would be a boring scene without the custom roms out there
We would just be like Ios, Wp and blackberry users, stuck with what we've got
Others wouldnt even have the chance to use a newer OS version because their phone has been abandoned by official support.
Or many of u guys would have crappy colors or other issues that custom roms and kernels DID fix
I use stock but i love the fact that there are custom roms around
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No need to bash the custom roms that some devs here work so hard to make, i agree that stock is amazing but android would be a boring scene without the custom roms out there
We would just be like Ios, Wp and blackberry users, stuck with what we've got
Others wouldnt even have the chance to use a newer OS version because their phone has been abandoned by official support.
Or many of u guys would have crappy colors or other issues that custom roms and kernels DID fix
I use stock but i love the fact that there are custom roms around
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No I get that, it's good to see support for older devices but c'mon have you counted the amount of 4.1.2 roms that are available for the gnex? If I build android I'm automatically called a developer? Because that's the way it seems here...
I don't know why people keep bringing up the so crappy colors. In reality, the crappy colors are the ones custom ROM offer.
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Soldier 2.0 said:
I don't know why people keep bringing up the so crappy colors. In reality, the crappy colors are the ones custom ROM offer.
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its the kernels that offer the colors(the kernels that the ROM developers include too). of all the kernels available, only a very few distinguish themselves from the stock crappy colors.
This is ridiculous... who obligated you to install a custom ROM? F*cking emos.
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I've suspected for a long time that custom ROMs have been the source of all my...
Blah blah blah.....
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No, please stay! We'll never survive without you! [/SARCASM]
GhoXt said:
This is ridiculous... who obligated you to install a custom ROM? F*cking emos.
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Alright Captain, you keep Franco deep in your throat.
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Is there an equivalent ROM?

I found this ROM:
http://www.gearengine.it/?page_id=2
...and would LOVE to run it on my AT&T GSIII but it says they're running it on the international version. I was planning on giving it a shot anyway but, while I'm working on rooting, I'd ask a few questions.
Think it'd work on the AT&T version?
If not, is there an equivalent ROM that will?
I want to keep ALL the stock functionality...camera wise, hardware wise (NFC, Bluetooth, etc) yet still getting the customization that that ROM afforded (I loved the Aroma installer, the inverted apps, etc) while running an overclock/undervolt kernel so I can juice this thing!
What are you guys running?!
One word of advice would be not to flash an international ROM on your AT&T device. I think that would lead to a brick.
Do some reading in the development sections to familiarize yourself with the basics.
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CamFlawless said:
One word of advice would be not to flash an international ROM on your AT&T device. I think that would lead to a brick.
Do some reading in the development sections to familiarize yourself with the basics.
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I have to agree. I actually just commented in a thread before coming across this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2056655
Foxhound was flashed to their device, and their device was hard bricked. Please do not flash i9300 ROMs to US device variants.
I am currently running cm10.0.0 stable. It runs like a dream, not one issue with it so far. I would not recommend the new cm10.1 nightly builds until the data problem is fixed however.
LOL!!!
Well...this website was down for a few and I though ah hell, why not.
smh
Never actually heard of anyone hard bricking a phone. Awesome. This rounds out my Android experience nicely. Just as dude says, it doesn't do a damn thing. No power, not light, no vibration, nothing.
I can't believe there's no way to fix something like this. I'm all around amazed...I must say.
But yea...so...AT&T I go in the morning to test my acting skills I guess. *shrug*
And the Aroma installer was SO COOL!!!! What a shame...
Had I known the consequences could be so dire...
rmp5s said:
LOL!!!
Well...this website was down for a few and I though ah hell, why not.
smh
Never actually heard of anyone hard bricking a phone. Awesome. This rounds out my Android experience nicely. Just as dude says, it doesn't do a damn thing. No power, not light, no vibration, nothing.
I can't believe there's no way to fix something like this. I'm all around amazed...I must say.
But yea...so...AT&T I go in the morning to test my acting skills I guess. *shrug*
And the Aroma installer was SO COOL!!!! What a shame...
Had I known the consequences could be so dire...
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Very sorry to hear your luck =( Good luck at AT&T... Don't let this deter you from future ROM flashes, just make sure you are flashing the correct GS3 variant. If you are on AT&T your device is model# i747 and the codename is d2att when flashing ROMs.
I didn't need too many acting skills, I just told them I woke up in the morning and my phone would no longer turn on. They swapped it out pretty quickly =) My hard brick came from a CWM flash when I was inexperienced at flashing. (I came from an iPhone... bleh). I had used a terminal emulator and used some commands to install CWM. Big mistake. I then followed Cyanogenmod's WIKI on installing CWM and it worked like a charm. =)
Of course, in my opinion, nothing beats TWRP recovery installation... Step 1: Download Goo Manager from the PlayStore. Step 2: Click menu and "Install OpenRecovery Script" Step 3: Wait for your phone to reboot into recovery =)
Well now that I'm done with my tangent, I think I'm heading to bed for the night lol. Good luck at the AT&T store tomorrow! ...and have a Happy Holiday! =)
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Very sorry to hear you luck =( Good luck at AT&T... Don't let this deter you from future ROM flashes, just make sure you are flashing the correct GS3 variant. If you are on AT&T your device is model# i747 and the codename is d2att when flashing ROMs.
I didn't need too many acting skills, I just told them I woke up in the morning and my phone would no longer turn on. They swapped it out pretty quickly =)
Again, good luck, and have a Happy Holiday!
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Hey...it's all good man. I've been in the Android game since the G1 and STILL I'm getting firsts. LOL!!! I will ALWAYS hack, tinker and tweak. That's the fun of it...this included.
I KNEW it was the wrong version. However...what I DIDN'T know was the likely outcome! Had no idea. Only ever heard of hard bricks as a mythical monster-like sorta thing. Through my G1 days, GS days, HTC Doubleshot, HTC One S and AAAAAAAAAAALL the devices I've rooted and ROM'd in between (my tablets and who knows how many friend's devices), I've never seen or had a true hard brick happen. Had a close call sorta with the ex-wife's GS, but I fixed it.
Honestly didn't think this was something that could ACTUALLY happen!!!
We'll see what happens.
Thanks everyone!!
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Hey...it's all good man. I've been in the Android game since the G1 and STILL I'm getting firsts. LOL!!! I will ALWAYS hack, tinker and tweak. That's the fun of it...this included.
I KNEW it was the wrong version. However...what I DIDN'T know was the likely outcome! Had no idea. Only ever heard of hard bricks as a mythical monster-like sorta thing. Through my G1 days, GS days, HTC Doubleshot, HTC One S and AAAAAAAAAAALL the devices I've rooted and ROM'd in between (my tablets and who knows how many friend's devices), I've never seen or had a true hard brick happen. Had a close call sorta with the ex-wife's GS, but I fixed it.
Honestly didn't think this was something that could ACTUALLY happen!!!
We'll see what happens.
Thanks everyone!!
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I have been with Android through the GS1, GS2, and now GS3. I totally agree with you. I have done some really stupid stuff, but have always been able to fix the problem, mostly from help from this forum.
It may be just me, but it seems that it is a lot easier to brick the GS3 than its predecessors. Not from personal experience (knock on wood), but from reading through these forums.
Let us know what happens at the AT&T store. As an aside, does anyone ever know what happens in the long run when you turn in a hard brick to AT&T and get it replaced? I would imagine that once they JTAG it they would see that it was flashed. Could they charge you for the device?
cjranucci said:
I have been with Android through the GS1, GS2, and now GS3. I totally agree with you. I have done some really stupid stuff, but have always been able to fix the problem, mostly from help from this forum.
It may be just me, but it seems that it is a lot easier to brick the GS3 than its predecessors. Not from personal experience (knock on wood), but from reading through these forums.
Let us know what happens at the AT&T store. As an aside, does anyone ever know what happens in the long run when you turn in a hard brick to AT&T and get it replaced? I would imagine that once they JTAG it they would see that it was flashed. Could they charge you for the device?
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That is a fantastic question. I was concerned about that myself the first time it happened. From my experience I was never charged when I went into the store to do the exchange. No bills came later in regards to it either. I think its pretty safe, but I wouldn't make any guarantees.
I also agree with you in that the GS3 seems a lot easier to brick than other phones I've dealt with.
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Well...they gave me another one. Couldn't get another red one like I wanted since they didn't have any in stock which kinda sucks so I got the blurple one. Looks cool.
Obviously, I can't agree with the comments on the GSIII's resistance to bricking since I had something happen with this device that I've never seen or even HEARD of anyone doing. lol But it's all good. Time to start tinkering again.
Think I'm going to go the CM10 route since that is apparently a good ROM. However...does everything work with it? NFC and all? And...is there an OC/UV kernel that is compatible with that ROM?
As far as what they do with it after, I don't really know. I had to take it back to Best Buy since that's where I got it and it was so soon after getting it. I only had the thing...for...like...4 hrs when it got killed. lol I would imagine that they have the resources to easily fix a device that has had this happen. If they didn't replace it, I was just going to make a JIG for it (http://www.androidnova.org/unbrick-your-hard-bricked-smartphone/).
Thanks for all the help, guys!!!
Well...I didn't kill it. lol
So...first setup I tried:
ROM - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1766684
Kernel - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1756776
My ratings, out of 10?
Look and feel: 7...I only give it so low since it's EXACTLY the same as the HTC One S ROM I was running. This is usually a good thing but I was wanting something different.
Functionality: 4...every time I send a text, the damn thing says it didn't send! But it does! Very strange, very annoying, very unusable.
Customizability: 12...it's an AOKP ROM...with the Nova launcher...there are a mind bending number of options. I love it!
Quadrant score: 3...What the hell is an overclocked, current gen phone juiced to over 2.1GHZ doing getting ~3600 pts in quadrant? EXTREMELY disappointing.
Final words: Running Android 4.2...awesome. I love being cutting edge, but there isn't anything really awe-inspiring about it aside from the Jelly Bean 4.2 but the text messaging problem is just insurmountable.
Next is going to be this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1949025
Going to keep the kernel and we'll see what happens! I'll let you know!
Glad it worked out. =) Just a heads up 4.2 has a lot of common bugs with it being so new. That texting problem is among many. Bluetooth issues, USB MTP issues, internal/external storage swapped, mobile data and WiFi issues to name a few.. I'd recommend sticking to 4.1 unless you don't mind the above annoyances. =p They will get ironed out soon enough I'm sure. =)
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That ROM flat out didn't work...it booted and everything but the keyboard kept giving me an FC. No bueno.
Back to the other I go!
Can anyone recommend a ROM that is as customizable as the AWESOME AOKP ROMs but still retain a bit of the Samsung-ness? Like...I like having the burst shot in the camera, the cool gesture and motion stuff they have, etc. Is there a middle ground?
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That ROM flat out didn't work...it booted and everything but the keyboard kept giving me an FC. No bueno.
Back to the other I go!
Can anyone recommend a ROM that is as customizable as the AWESOME AOKP ROMs but still retain a bit of the Samsung-ness? Like...I like having the burst shot in the camera, the cool gesture and motion stuff they have, etc. Is there a middle ground?
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Checkout NexusMOD in the development forum. Its a touchwiz ROM with AOSP messaging and email. You can still run Nova Launcher if you want, and holo locker if you don't want the TW lock screen.
I'm still tinkering and trying different ROMs. Downloading LiquidSmooth right now, can't find the NexusMOD one mentioned and I just tryed to flash an AOKP ROM and it wouldn't flash.
I SO BADLY want the 4.2 to work. I LOVE it!!! The Camera (wish it had HDR and multi shot modes, though), the stock messenger, LOCK SCREEN WIDGETS...it's just awesome.
I'm with you all the way rmp5s(except the bricking part), I want this ROM sooo bad. It's stockish which I like, yet has a lot of mods, any word yet on it coming to I747?

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