Hey.
I've got a question, my buddy got a Desire (GSM) wich I sold him long time ago.
I had Oxygene and Oxygene hboot on it, now its stock 2.2 Sense and unrooted, cause he is an IT illiterate.
Now he is complaining about lacking internal space, and I will help him root it, and install another Hboot, because that gave me around 300 mb. internal space, when I owned it.
My question is, he will be running rooted stock 2.2, and I will root it and install another HBoot on the phone, to get some more internal space, but wich one should i pick?
Bravo Stock 250M 40M 147M 7bd5234711364880de1fa982dcf3a2d6
Or
Bravo Sense 180M 40M 217M 47d034c8350e665dc20eafbd3a4900de
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I think you should write down what is exactly shown in the bootloader first. You have to be SOFF before changing hboots.
As far as hboots are concerned only use the hboots from alpharev.nl. Totally depends upon the ROM you want to use. Best to go to the ROM thread and see what the dev recommends.
handy5876 said:
I think you should write down what is exactly shown in the bootloader first. You have to be SOFF before changing hboots.
As far as hboots are concerned only use the hboots from alpharev.nl. Totally depends upon the ROM you want to use. Best to go to the ROM thread and see what the dev recommends.
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Either you didn't read the whole topic, or you misunderstood it.
I will gain root and gain s-off, but I won't flash any Rom, I will let it run stock Sense 2.2, and those hboots are taken from the alpharev.nl site.
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How do you think to run stock (which mean factory) 2.2 on custom hboot? Do you know that it requires 250mb system partition to run?
Different thing is if you want custom 2.2 made from the official stock ruu, that could be found.
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How do you think to run stock (which mean factory) 2.2 on custom hboot? Do you know that it requires 250mb system partition to run?
Different thing is if you want custom 2.2 made from the official stock ruu, that could be found.
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I did'nt know, I thought that was possible?
So you can only change hboot if your running a custom rom?
Yes, cause stock OS, or rom, requires 250mb system partition (it's somewhere around 242-243mb leaving 7-8mb of free space). If youre up to extension of memory, choose some custom rom that fits cm7r2 hboot image and flash both.
Ohh okay.
What is the most stable custom rom with sense?
Maybe some Sense 3.0
Here you go:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=809328
Just read, they are all more or less stable...
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HTC is complaining that Desire can't fully run GB with Sennse because of low RAM.
Does this mean that GB uses more RAM than Froyo?
I think you got something wrong. Gingerbread uses less rAm (random access memory) than froyo. The problem was, that it uses more space for rOm (internal phone storage) than froyo. So they had to delete some sense apps to make gingerbread appropriate for the desire's internal storage.
so I just create an SD EXT partition and all is well again, right?
ashrack0 said:
so I just create an SD EXT partition and all is well again, right?
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No, because with the official stock gingerbread you cannot use a2sd/a2sd+. Furthermore, you need root access to use a2sd/a2sd+. And you cannot root the official gingerbread yet.
MatDrOiD said:
No, because with the official stock gingerbread you cannot use a2sd/a2sd+. Furthermore, you need root access to use a2sd/a2sd+. And you cannot root the official gingerbread yet.
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U cant if u run the ruu ( because that one install a new hboot that make ur phone not rootable), otherwise u can flash a lot of rooted custom roms already out in dev section based on the official gb
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U cant if u run the ruu ( because that one install a new hboot that make ur phone not rootable), otherwise u can flash a lot of rooted custom roms already out in dev section based on the official gb
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And I did not post something else.
Of course am not gonna ruin my root and install RUU. ATM I have LeeDroid.
thx for the clarification guys about the ROM vs RAM issue
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And I did not post something else.
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You said "And you cannot root the official gingerbread yet", that not exactly...The rom is rootable if you not flash the new hboot
andQlimax said:
You said "And you cannot root the official gingerbread yet", that not exactly...The rom is rootable if you not flash the new hboot
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As far as I know, you cannot avoid flashing the new hboot when you flash the gingerbread update.
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As far as I know, you cannot avoid flashing the new hboot when you flash the gingerbread update.
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you can, just extract ROM.zip from RUU and delete hboot (or boot) .img from it, then flash with PB99IMG method
but why do that either already a rooted stock or fully custom
Hi,
Just getting back into phone mods (used to own windows Touch HD) and recently did the HTC upgrade to gingerbread (which worked fine).
My problem is running out of space all the time... so I followed the instructions to use unrevoked tool (http://revolutionary.io/) to s-off the phone and install clockwork mod recovery.
But what now?
I would initially just want to have the official rom but be able to use the SD card for more space...
I am confused with talk of cm7r2 hboot, which rom to use, will the rom work with what I have and is my phone even rooted??
I don't suppose there is anyone out there that can spell out clearly my next steps??
Thanks in advance
First of all congrats that you have successfully managed to root and S-Off your phone..
Hboot is something that decides who your phone's internal memory is partitioned..for now you have stock hboot..which has partition like the following system 250MB cache 40MB data 147MB
Cm7r2 has system 145MB cache5MB 287MB
this is because requirement of Stock hboot based roms and Cm7r2 Roms are different..
My advice is for now you can used A2sd+ roms which can be installed on stock hboot with the help of recovery.
You will find roms over here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=809328
If you want basic Gingerbread rom try from Sense 1.9/2.1 (GingerBread): section
Also to use a2sd+ u need to partition your memory card..
you can find all details in this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016084
Hope it helps
Have I actually rooted the phone... I don't think I have???
Oif you read the revolutionary documentation, there is a zip to flash for root
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I think this is what I need... ROM] [20/08] Pre-rooted Stock Gingerbread (3.14.405.1) [Optional Mods]
I didn't use the zip to flash for root as was worried if there were different options...
It is SOOO confusing... need to keep reading!
Im new in rooting and currently using SupernovaRom..
I would like to switch my current rom to Sense 3.5's roms, but i realized that there are different download's link for stockhboot and cm7hboot.
Can someone tell me what are the differences and how to differentiate them??
Thank you very much.
honglajiao said:
Im new in rooting and currently using SupernovaRom..
I would like to switch my current rom to Sense 3.5's roms, but i realized that there are different download's link for stockhboot and cm7hboot.
Can someone tell me what are the differences and how to differentiate them??
Thank you very much.
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Stock hboot has 250mb for /system and 145mb for /data. CM7 hboot has 145mb for /system and around 287mb for /data if I remember correctly. In short, CM7 hboot will enable you to install more apps than stock as you can only use the data partition to install apps.
More info about the different sizes of hboot can be found here. alpharev.nl
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If you use the stock hboot version, many things will remain on /system partition.
If you use cm7 hboot version, many things of /system will be swaped out to an sd-ext partition.
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Since I am new to rooting I d like to ask something myself. I use official 2.3.3 and I d like to root to get Supernova Extreme. But since I can only use the alpharev method I will S-Off my desire. Does this mean I have to use CM7r2 or can I stick with stock Hboot? Which is best for this Rom? Thank you.
thouvou13 said:
Since I am new to rooting I d like to ask something myself. I use official 2.3.3 and I d like to root to get Supernova Extreme. But since I can only use the alpharev method I will S-Off my desire. Does this mean I have to use CM7r2 or can I stick with stock Hboot? Which is best for this Rom? Thank you.
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Quoting from the Rom page itself.
Hboot Required: Stock HTC Hboot if S-ON, or Alpharev Bravo Stock Hboot if S-OFF (If you havent changed Hboot, dont worry! Your phone is compatible!)
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. You cannot use CM7r2 with this Rom. And having S-Off just means you have fastboot commands which is used to flash recovery etc. and have the ability to edit system partition while the phone is booted. It doesn't mean you have to change hboot. You can just stick to stock.
Means If I have 146mb for apps, which mean Im using stock hboot?
In that's the case than I have to download other ROMs in stockhboot version?
honglajiao said:
Means If I have 146mb for apps, which mean Im using stock hboot?
In that's the case than I have to download other ROMs in stockhboot version?
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Yes each rom has to be flashed according to the hboot specified.If it is for cm7r2 or any other hboot it would be specified on the rom page itself.
MatDrOiD said:
If you use the stock hboot version, many things will remain on /system partition.
If you use cm7 hboot version, many things of /system will be swaped out to an sd-ext partition.
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To clarify this, not by deafult. Only if you use a big Sense ROM that has a CM7 hboot version.
how to do this?
What do you mean?
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All instructions are in alpharev.nl, hboots included. You'll need the usb drivers and fastboot program.
Hello,
Cannot post to the the Dev forums yet because I'm mostly reading and posting little (or too noob if you prefer ), so have to put this here:
I want to try an ICS ROM, and I've been following a thread dedicated to it from day one. Now I think it has reached a level I could use it as my daily. One fundamental requirement is to be in stock hboot. I've tried searching but I haven't understood one thing:
Does stock refer to the partition table or to a specific hboot version number?
At a moment my partitions reflect that of the stock i.e. 250M / 40M / 147M, but I'm on a Revolutionary 6.93.1002 hboot (running GingerVillain) instead of 0.93.1003 or something like that.
Thanks for any help and clarifications!
Stock hboot means the default partition table. If you used revolutionary to s-off and have not done anything, then yeah you are on stock s-off hboot.
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that was one quick answer
That's exactly what I've done, so I'm OK to go. Thanks!
Just to continue (and to drive my post count up ) Any benefit to upgrade hboot to a newer version? If yes, which?
Since you are s-off you either use the partition tables available in the alpharev.nl site. There is no such thing as "upgrade" hboot. You only change hboot depending on the rom requirement and your app space requiremment. I use aosp rom that uses less system space so I choose to use CMr2 hboot instead of stock hboot.
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Change HBOOT
I've changed my HBOOT before with the alpharev method, and since bought a rooted phone with the Revelutionary method. (My original Desire died Is the process the same to change the HBOOT on Rev rooted phones?
That is the same proces... Revolutionary is join forces from alpharev and unrevoked
And one more thing revolutionary provides s-off, your Rom becomes rooted after you flash Super user zip from their website via recovery
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Hey Guys,
Longtime no see.
Last Android I ran was a nook color that I flashed with gingerbread and that was a whole other kettle of fish.
I was donated a HTC Desire GSM and couldn't help myself and rooted it with unrevoked.
Then I updated the rom to Nikez Lentes ICS rom and I am very happy with it.
Now, I installed CWM and when it flashes it says that it is V5.0.2 but when I boot into recovery it is actually V2.5.0.
After a bit of reading I see that the author of the ROM and others and now using 4EXT Recovery so I bought that and went to give it a go but the S-ON is stopping it ( I booted into recovery and indeed it is S-ON currently ).
So reading up on how to turn ON to OFF I see unrevoked and alpharev have a solution for windows and linux only. ( I have VM windows and a raspberry pi linux ( but i assume the pi would be too underpowered to do this update))
I have read the wiki and read on the FAQ on this site that if you are not running the stock HTC rom that there could be an issue, is that correct ?
After all this, I am really just trying to make a Ext-SD partition on my SD card, cause the rom is like 120mb of the 140mb internal partition and I can't install enough apps to be happy.. lol.
I have the CWR image of V5.0.2 but am not sure really how to update it ( V2.5 is green text and V5.0 is blue so im sure I have the older version )
Or im happy to use 4EXT for my rom needs, but I need to change my S-ON to OFF to be able to flash the recovery and partition it that way.
If anyone can help that would be great, the whole setup has been rather painless and i'd like to keep it that way, I need the phone to work, but I would like to install more apps on the phone. The ROM also has a script built in so that is not the problem, just making a partition on the SD card really is what I need right now.
Thanks,
Steve
would it be because im currently S-OFF that I can't flash recovery above V2.5.0 or install 4EXT Recovery ?
Are you SON or SOFF ? Write down what your bootloader says.
1. Alpharev quote
Requirements:
The only requirement right now is that the ROM you're running is rooted.
As techniques such as 'data2ext' have been popping up, these might disturb our finely-tuned flashing process.
Please revert to a rooted stock ROM if possible. Your /data partition is used for temporary storage of important files.
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I dont know whether it will work with ICS though. I wouldnt try it since this is a bootloader mod. Maybe best to go stock rooted rom before running alpharev.
Revolutionary is the other option for getting soff.
I am S-ON,
I ran unrevoked to root my phone, I want to make it S-OFF now.
I am asking how I can do it with my ICS rom and I don't want any issues, but I want to be able to make a SD-EXT partition to run apps2sd.
Steve
steveb_123 said:
I am S-ON,
I ran unrevoked to root my phone, I want to make it S-OFF now.
I am asking how I can do it with my ICS rom and I don't want any issues, but I want to be able to make a SD-EXT partition to run apps2sd.
Steve
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Read my post. Best to go to a stock rooted rom before running alpharev. Thereafter flash 4ext. Partition your sdcard with 4ext. Flash rom of your choice.
Can I ask why it is better to go to a stock rooted rom ?
Installing the stock rom, and stock radio, to then run alpharev, to then root, to then install 4ext, sounds like a lot of work just to unlock the S-ON.
That is alpharev requirement. Read my first post.
Link for rooted stock romlink
Where does it say you need to run a stock rooted rom ?
http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/revolutionary
the stock rooted rom that is U (updated) seems to be pulled and this guy has a URL at the top saying he has pulled the rom due to internal XDA fights.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1151765
My suggestion is to run 2.3 ruu from htc dev and then use revolutionary, two flies in one hit, s-off and custom recovery, and then flashing su over recovery. Though you'll get cwm recovery after first boot you'll be able to flash 4ext.
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Thanks for that nloooo,
I downloaded, unrar'd and unzipped the folder and can see the 2.3 RUU exe there, so I just run that in a windows machine ?
then rev, then reflash you are suggesting ?
is it worth trying revolutionary without returning to stock RUU and if it doesn't work, then installing the 2.3 RUU ?
It alk depends on hboit version your phone has. If it is 0.93 or 1.02 than it should work no matter which rom you have. I'm suggesting 2.3 ruu cause you'll get 1.02 hboot and you're good to go.
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My hboot is 0.93.
If 0.93 + revolutionary could work, I would prefer to do it that way because I am very green playing with android (mostly just use non-jailbroken apple gear) But I am loving the desire + ICS.
Thank you handy and nlooo for replying.
NLoooo should I be ok to try revolutionary without returning to stock rooted rom ?
steveb_123 said:
NLoooo should I be ok to try revolutionary without returning to stock rooted rom ?
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You can always try, if it doesn't work you won't have any problems phone will work the same.
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Thanks nlooo, you've been a huge help