Why does GB suffer from low RAM compared to Froyo - Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

HTC is complaining that Desire can't fully run GB with Sennse because of low RAM.
Does this mean that GB uses more RAM than Froyo?

I think you got something wrong. Gingerbread uses less rAm (random access memory) than froyo. The problem was, that it uses more space for rOm (internal phone storage) than froyo. So they had to delete some sense apps to make gingerbread appropriate for the desire's internal storage.

so I just create an SD EXT partition and all is well again, right?

ashrack0 said:
so I just create an SD EXT partition and all is well again, right?
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No, because with the official stock gingerbread you cannot use a2sd/a2sd+. Furthermore, you need root access to use a2sd/a2sd+. And you cannot root the official gingerbread yet.

MatDrOiD said:
No, because with the official stock gingerbread you cannot use a2sd/a2sd+. Furthermore, you need root access to use a2sd/a2sd+. And you cannot root the official gingerbread yet.
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U cant if u run the ruu ( because that one install a new hboot that make ur phone not rootable), otherwise u can flash a lot of rooted custom roms already out in dev section based on the official gb
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andQlimax said:
U cant if u run the ruu ( because that one install a new hboot that make ur phone not rootable), otherwise u can flash a lot of rooted custom roms already out in dev section based on the official gb
Sent from my HTC Desire
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And I did not post something else.

Of course am not gonna ruin my root and install RUU. ATM I have LeeDroid.
thx for the clarification guys about the ROM vs RAM issue

MatDrOiD said:
And I did not post something else.
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You said "And you cannot root the official gingerbread yet", that not exactly...The rom is rootable if you not flash the new hboot

andQlimax said:
You said "And you cannot root the official gingerbread yet", that not exactly...The rom is rootable if you not flash the new hboot
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As far as I know, you cannot avoid flashing the new hboot when you flash the gingerbread update.

MatDrOiD said:
As far as I know, you cannot avoid flashing the new hboot when you flash the gingerbread update.
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you can, just extract ROM.zip from RUU and delete hboot (or boot) .img from it, then flash with PB99IMG method
but why do that either already a rooted stock or fully custom

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HTC Desire update

Hey all,
I've just received an HTC Desire update (Since I'm using the stock ROM with stock radio), my phone downloaded it but it cannot install due to clockwork recovery blocking it (signature failure).
I have the .zip file. How can I customize that .zip to be able to install ?
I am rooted, with clockwork 2.5 (Version before 3.0) and have stock ROM and stock radio.
Please help.
Thank you so much for taking the time to read this topic. Thank you!
Never apply OTA updates on a rooted phone
Find a rom in development and flash that.
TheGhost1233 said:
Never apply OTA updates on a rooted phone
Find a rom in development and flash that.
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Yeah, I found that out on the internet whilst searching for clues.
The thing is, I rather keep the HTC ROM than move onto other ROMs made by other people. It's just my preference. I just want to know how I could modify or something to allow me to install the latest OTA update.
Thanks for the reply.
You can't, simple as that
If you want the new version you'll have to unroot using the RUU and then re-root
EddyOS said:
You can't, simple as that
If you want the new version you'll have to unroot using the RUU and then re-root
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Thanks for the quick reply buddy.
Okay, I must unroot then apply the update.
So, I must uninstall Clockwork recovery then unroot then update then root then install clockwork recovery. Is that right?
What is your software version at present?
EddyOS said:
What is your software version at present?
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Version; 2.10.405.2 (Froyo)
Radio; 32.48.00.32U_5.11.05.14
Using this stock HTC rom => http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=741775
Download this and flash it:
http://shipped-roms.com/download.ph...9.00.32U_5.11.05.27_release_159811_signed.exe
If it doesn't work, try:
http://www.mediafire.com/?bbb7m2b4t5jejhm
http://www.multiupload.com/LEJCW182AH
Then re-root if you want but bare in mind you still won't be able to get OTA updates
if he waqnts to keep root and use stock rom why doesnt he just flash teppics stock rom?
its 2.29.405.5 base, exactly the same
he has clockweork, he can just flash it over the top
True, but they don't say they want a custom ROM
Thanks so much but (you're gonna laugh) I decided to google your ROM, eMIUI and I'm in love.
I looked at the xda topic and well it was overwhelming for my simpleton mind. I really want to install that ROM, is it safe to flash it or must I have EXT2? Cause I see some ROMs require EXT2 while others don't. I don't have EXT2 nor do I know what it is.
Sorry about my "foolishness" but I'm really interested to have the same setup as you Eddy. Tell me all about it.
Oh and since your from Merseyside, can you maybe pop by Anfield and give those excuse of football players a whack on the head for me please?
Could've just clicked the link in my signature and you'd get the page on here
As for hitting Liverpool, I would but I'm a Gooner (from London originally) so kinda funny to see them faulter - if a little sad
Regarding my setup, I have a 1Gb EXT3 partition set purely so that I don't have to worry about space in future. When I rooted with unrEVOked I flashed AmonRA as opposed to CWM as at the time you couldn't partition SD cards in CWM (think you can now). I'm using a 16Gb Class 2 SD card and it works fine.
I tried a few other ROMs before finally giving eMIUI a go and I love it and with a bit of my own work on it (purely cosmetic, nothing under the hood) it does what I want it to and I normally go to bed with 40-50% battery left whereas on stock I'd be neally out on the same usage.
he said no custom rom but tepics is just stock with root and busybox which is what he would be now anyway
anyhow hes looking into miui
Miui is nice, emiui seems to be the most stable but an EXT is needed
How do I get an EXT?
Thanks so much guys!
I'm rooted, with clockwork 2.5 and I have S-ON.
Just run the correct RUU. You have to re-root like but still. Saves farting around
I have sd-ext is that the EXT2?
I don't know, not used CWM in a long time. What version are you using. It normally says at the bottom of CWM when in recovery
I partitioned an EXT2 512MB with 128MB buffer. I'm using 1.01.07, the same link as the one in Eddy's signature. I am wondering..... how do you flash a kernal? Can I do it even with my eMIUI installed or I must wipe?
Thanks!

[Q] Flashed GB official ruu. Can not root. Help...

Hi Fellow xda.
I have flashed the official Gingerbread ota update ruu to my desire.
After that i realized that i couldnt root or go back to Oxygen rom, now that the hboot version is 1.02
Before i had hboot version 0.93 i think.
I have tried the downgrade to 2.1
and root again with unrevoked.
None of these 2 methods work.
Is there any other way to go back to rooted and custom recovery to oxygen rom or hboot 0.93?.
With oxygen and launcherpro my desire feels faster than stock sense
Anyone else have this problem?
There is currently no method of downgrading the hboot or rooting the official GB RUU.
I guess all you can do is wait until somebody figures a way to root and install custom recovery
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
Ops good job I never installed this. I read others having this problem also.
Same situation, precipitaded mself, now can't root and all my backups are Titanium backups, have nandroid backups but can't use them....
damn...
isn't it possible to downgrade hboot?
I am also facing this problem. Is there any solution available now?
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HTC Desire: Android 2.3.3 official Gingerbread rom.
No solution - check Alpharev/Unrevoked updates - if there will be a solution, it will probably be in the developement section.
Someone said that they used a Froyo RUU to downgrade then they just rooted. But it didn't work for other people but I think its with a shot. Otherwise you'll have to wait.
Swyped...
Hmmmm...I did not know about this...
I did not flash the RUU directly but tried to flash the rooted or modified ones from this forum...and decided to keep InsertCoin 1.0.9
How did the devs root it then? Perhaps, try asking Baadnewz and/or NeoPhyTe for help, since they have released the rooted official update.
I don't think they rooted it as such, but more of "ported" it. I don't know a thing about rom development but go and ask him.
aaa said:
Hmmmm...I did not know about this...
I did not flash the RUU directly but tried to flash the rooted or modified ones from this forum...and decided to keep InsertCoin 1.0.9
How did the devs root it then? Perhaps, try asking Baadnewz and/or NeoPhyTe for help, since they have released the rooted official update.
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The difference is that when u run the ruu, it will overwrite ur hboot, ur recovery, ur rom, ecc, everything...So u lost root, because the ruu restore everything as stock.
In particular after run the ruu, the new hboot installed doesn't allow to root again and doesn't allow to change hboot at the moment.
Instead, when u flash the rooted rom based on official gb (u already have root and u don't lost it, simply), the zip contain only the rom part and with inside the super user apk (that allow root permission), so flashing it u will continue to have ur recovery, ur hboot, ur root permissions.
Instead when running the ruu, so u lost root, there is no way to install again a custom recovery and there is no way to push the super user apk into the rom (unrevoked / alpharev doesn't work)..At the moment.
From devs side, create a rooted rom is easy, as they extract from the ruu only the rom and make it rooted pushing in the zip that they are going to create the super user apk and some other tweaks to the kernel as well...All this can be done with the dsixda kitchen
I hope everything is clear now
shankly1985 said:
Ops good job I never installed this. I readothers having this problem also.
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That you did. There are plenty of threads with that information available.
is there a way to root now?
we should wait?
Okay well then i guess im stuck like others :S
i was just thinking if there was a way to get superuser rights by using the terminal or adb.
i did also try the old root method for the desire that came before unrevoked. That didnt work.
Thank goodness...I was tempted to flash the original RUU...but my stomach told me not to do it...I would have been in the same situation if had flashed it too...
I hope there will be an easy solution in the near future for you guys
@andQlimax: Thanks for the information so...so, I hit the thanks button
Popenda said:
Okay well then i guess im stuck like others :S
i was just thinking if there was a way to get superuser rights by using the terminal or adb.
i did also try the old root method for the desire that came before unrevoked. That didnt work.
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and what should we do now?
except waiting
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1151765
That's prob as close as you'll get to the update without flashing the RUU.
Meaple said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1151765
That's prob as close as you'll get to the update without flashing the RUU.
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i can't access recovery
I think gingerbreak can still temp root this build if it helps.
Sent from my HTC Incredible S using XDA App
ste1164 said:
I think gingerbreak can still temp root this build if it helps.
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Have the same problem as others here. Tried both apk and adb with GingerBreak. No luck
...but I'm trying to play around a bit and got a noob idea to use ARUWizard to flash custom rom. I've extracted RUU 2.29 and RUU 2.3.3 and replaced 2.3.3 rom.zip with the one from 2.29. It didn't work of course as newer version has been discovered but I was wondering if it's possible just to root the standard rom.zip and put it back. Is there any chance that it works?
Have anyone rooted htc desire with Gingerbread RUU update ?
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[Q] Differences between STOCK hboot & CM7 hboot

Im new in rooting and currently using SupernovaRom..
I would like to switch my current rom to Sense 3.5's roms, but i realized that there are different download's link for stockhboot and cm7hboot.
Can someone tell me what are the differences and how to differentiate them??
Thank you very much.
honglajiao said:
Im new in rooting and currently using SupernovaRom..
I would like to switch my current rom to Sense 3.5's roms, but i realized that there are different download's link for stockhboot and cm7hboot.
Can someone tell me what are the differences and how to differentiate them??
Thank you very much.
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Stock hboot has 250mb for /system and 145mb for /data. CM7 hboot has 145mb for /system and around 287mb for /data if I remember correctly. In short, CM7 hboot will enable you to install more apps than stock as you can only use the data partition to install apps.
More info about the different sizes of hboot can be found here. alpharev.nl
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If you use the stock hboot version, many things will remain on /system partition.
If you use cm7 hboot version, many things of /system will be swaped out to an sd-ext partition.
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Since I am new to rooting I d like to ask something myself. I use official 2.3.3 and I d like to root to get Supernova Extreme. But since I can only use the alpharev method I will S-Off my desire. Does this mean I have to use CM7r2 or can I stick with stock Hboot? Which is best for this Rom? Thank you.
thouvou13 said:
Since I am new to rooting I d like to ask something myself. I use official 2.3.3 and I d like to root to get Supernova Extreme. But since I can only use the alpharev method I will S-Off my desire. Does this mean I have to use CM7r2 or can I stick with stock Hboot? Which is best for this Rom? Thank you.
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Quoting from the Rom page itself.
Hboot Required: Stock HTC Hboot if S-ON, or Alpharev Bravo Stock Hboot if S-OFF (If you havent changed Hboot, dont worry! Your phone is compatible!)
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. You cannot use CM7r2 with this Rom. And having S-Off just means you have fastboot commands which is used to flash recovery etc. and have the ability to edit system partition while the phone is booted. It doesn't mean you have to change hboot. You can just stick to stock.
Means If I have 146mb for apps, which mean Im using stock hboot?
In that's the case than I have to download other ROMs in stockhboot version?
honglajiao said:
Means If I have 146mb for apps, which mean Im using stock hboot?
In that's the case than I have to download other ROMs in stockhboot version?
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Yes each rom has to be flashed according to the hboot specified.If it is for cm7r2 or any other hboot it would be specified on the rom page itself.
MatDrOiD said:
If you use the stock hboot version, many things will remain on /system partition.
If you use cm7 hboot version, many things of /system will be swaped out to an sd-ext partition.
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To clarify this, not by deafult. Only if you use a big Sense ROM that has a CM7 hboot version.
how to do this?
What do you mean?
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All instructions are in alpharev.nl, hboots included. You'll need the usb drivers and fastboot program.

experience with offical 2.3.3 update

Hey guys
Has anyone of you some experience with the offical 2.3.3 update for our desire?
Is it worth to be installed?
thx for your replies
The official 2.3.3 update is not a good choice due to memory shortage of HTC Desire hardware. S-OFF your Desire then flash it may be a better choice.
I'm already s-off, I just wondered how it works and if it's doing its job.
blacksec said:
I'm already s-off, I just wondered how it works and if it's doing its job.
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in short, it sucks and there's no point in using it when you have a much larer selection of much better rooted ROMs.
When I updated my phone, it was pointless as there not much difference from the previous version! Had same memory problems as before!
Lord Morpheus said:
When I updated my phone, it was pointless as there not much difference from the previous version! Had same memory problems as before!
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Well, that's definitely the fastest and the most stable choice. I used it for a while, but now I'm trying some sense 3.5 roms, but will probably go back to official RUU.
I attached you two files, data2sd by darktremor and boot.img that I edited to support data2sd. Flash boot.img first with fastboot then go straight to recovery (dont boot your phone) and flash dtapps from recovery. You will get stock 2.3 with data2sd support. Try it and I think you will be satisfied.
Of course the phone has to be rooted.
I hope I helped.
P.S. Sorry, I forgot to mention, you will need sd-ext partition - ext3 (any size but I think that 512mb is enough (no swap)) because stock rom kernel doesn't have ext4 support.

Wich hboot

Hey.
I've got a question, my buddy got a Desire (GSM) wich I sold him long time ago.
I had Oxygene and Oxygene hboot on it, now its stock 2.2 Sense and unrooted, cause he is an IT illiterate.
Now he is complaining about lacking internal space, and I will help him root it, and install another Hboot, because that gave me around 300 mb. internal space, when I owned it.
My question is, he will be running rooted stock 2.2, and I will root it and install another HBoot on the phone, to get some more internal space, but wich one should i pick?
Bravo Stock 250M 40M 147M 7bd5234711364880de1fa982dcf3a2d6
Or
Bravo Sense 180M 40M 217M 47d034c8350e665dc20eafbd3a4900de
?
I think you should write down what is exactly shown in the bootloader first. You have to be SOFF before changing hboots.
As far as hboots are concerned only use the hboots from alpharev.nl. Totally depends upon the ROM you want to use. Best to go to the ROM thread and see what the dev recommends.
handy5876 said:
I think you should write down what is exactly shown in the bootloader first. You have to be SOFF before changing hboots.
As far as hboots are concerned only use the hboots from alpharev.nl. Totally depends upon the ROM you want to use. Best to go to the ROM thread and see what the dev recommends.
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Either you didn't read the whole topic, or you misunderstood it.
I will gain root and gain s-off, but I won't flash any Rom, I will let it run stock Sense 2.2, and those hboots are taken from the alpharev.nl site.
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How do you think to run stock (which mean factory) 2.2 on custom hboot? Do you know that it requires 250mb system partition to run?
Different thing is if you want custom 2.2 made from the official stock ruu, that could be found.
nlooooo said:
How do you think to run stock (which mean factory) 2.2 on custom hboot? Do you know that it requires 250mb system partition to run?
Different thing is if you want custom 2.2 made from the official stock ruu, that could be found.
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I did'nt know, I thought that was possible?
So you can only change hboot if your running a custom rom?
Yes, cause stock OS, or rom, requires 250mb system partition (it's somewhere around 242-243mb leaving 7-8mb of free space). If youre up to extension of memory, choose some custom rom that fits cm7r2 hboot image and flash both.
Ohh okay.
What is the most stable custom rom with sense?
Maybe some Sense 3.0
Here you go:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=809328
Just read, they are all more or less stable...
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