Im new in rooting and currently using SupernovaRom..
I would like to switch my current rom to Sense 3.5's roms, but i realized that there are different download's link for stockhboot and cm7hboot.
Can someone tell me what are the differences and how to differentiate them??
Thank you very much.
honglajiao said:
Im new in rooting and currently using SupernovaRom..
I would like to switch my current rom to Sense 3.5's roms, but i realized that there are different download's link for stockhboot and cm7hboot.
Can someone tell me what are the differences and how to differentiate them??
Thank you very much.
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Stock hboot has 250mb for /system and 145mb for /data. CM7 hboot has 145mb for /system and around 287mb for /data if I remember correctly. In short, CM7 hboot will enable you to install more apps than stock as you can only use the data partition to install apps.
More info about the different sizes of hboot can be found here. alpharev.nl
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If you use the stock hboot version, many things will remain on /system partition.
If you use cm7 hboot version, many things of /system will be swaped out to an sd-ext partition.
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Since I am new to rooting I d like to ask something myself. I use official 2.3.3 and I d like to root to get Supernova Extreme. But since I can only use the alpharev method I will S-Off my desire. Does this mean I have to use CM7r2 or can I stick with stock Hboot? Which is best for this Rom? Thank you.
thouvou13 said:
Since I am new to rooting I d like to ask something myself. I use official 2.3.3 and I d like to root to get Supernova Extreme. But since I can only use the alpharev method I will S-Off my desire. Does this mean I have to use CM7r2 or can I stick with stock Hboot? Which is best for this Rom? Thank you.
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Quoting from the Rom page itself.
Hboot Required: Stock HTC Hboot if S-ON, or Alpharev Bravo Stock Hboot if S-OFF (If you havent changed Hboot, dont worry! Your phone is compatible!)
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. You cannot use CM7r2 with this Rom. And having S-Off just means you have fastboot commands which is used to flash recovery etc. and have the ability to edit system partition while the phone is booted. It doesn't mean you have to change hboot. You can just stick to stock.
Means If I have 146mb for apps, which mean Im using stock hboot?
In that's the case than I have to download other ROMs in stockhboot version?
honglajiao said:
Means If I have 146mb for apps, which mean Im using stock hboot?
In that's the case than I have to download other ROMs in stockhboot version?
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Yes each rom has to be flashed according to the hboot specified.If it is for cm7r2 or any other hboot it would be specified on the rom page itself.
MatDrOiD said:
If you use the stock hboot version, many things will remain on /system partition.
If you use cm7 hboot version, many things of /system will be swaped out to an sd-ext partition.
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To clarify this, not by deafult. Only if you use a big Sense ROM that has a CM7 hboot version.
how to do this?
What do you mean?
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All instructions are in alpharev.nl, hboots included. You'll need the usb drivers and fastboot program.
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i used the revolutionary way and s-off/rooted my device. when i go to choose a rom to flash i see many versions depending on the hboot you have. which one should i choose for revolutionary? is it the same as stock hboot or cm7 hboot for example?
sp0r0s said:
i used the revolutionary way and s-off/rooted my device. when i go to choose a rom to flash i see many versions depending on the hboot you have. which one should i choose for revolutionary? is it the same as stock hboot or cm7 hboot for example?
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revolutionary is nothing to do with it. When it says Stock, cm7, data++ etc etc, it means the partition layout (sizes) as per www.alpharev.nl website shows.
Unless you flash any of the other hboots purposely, you are stock.
wow!! that was fast. i think i got it. thank you very much for your quick reply. im going to flash the acemod007 lite!!! i hope its good. thanks again
Hey.
I've got a question, my buddy got a Desire (GSM) wich I sold him long time ago.
I had Oxygene and Oxygene hboot on it, now its stock 2.2 Sense and unrooted, cause he is an IT illiterate.
Now he is complaining about lacking internal space, and I will help him root it, and install another Hboot, because that gave me around 300 mb. internal space, when I owned it.
My question is, he will be running rooted stock 2.2, and I will root it and install another HBoot on the phone, to get some more internal space, but wich one should i pick?
Bravo Stock 250M 40M 147M 7bd5234711364880de1fa982dcf3a2d6
Or
Bravo Sense 180M 40M 217M 47d034c8350e665dc20eafbd3a4900de
?
I think you should write down what is exactly shown in the bootloader first. You have to be SOFF before changing hboots.
As far as hboots are concerned only use the hboots from alpharev.nl. Totally depends upon the ROM you want to use. Best to go to the ROM thread and see what the dev recommends.
handy5876 said:
I think you should write down what is exactly shown in the bootloader first. You have to be SOFF before changing hboots.
As far as hboots are concerned only use the hboots from alpharev.nl. Totally depends upon the ROM you want to use. Best to go to the ROM thread and see what the dev recommends.
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Either you didn't read the whole topic, or you misunderstood it.
I will gain root and gain s-off, but I won't flash any Rom, I will let it run stock Sense 2.2, and those hboots are taken from the alpharev.nl site.
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How do you think to run stock (which mean factory) 2.2 on custom hboot? Do you know that it requires 250mb system partition to run?
Different thing is if you want custom 2.2 made from the official stock ruu, that could be found.
nlooooo said:
How do you think to run stock (which mean factory) 2.2 on custom hboot? Do you know that it requires 250mb system partition to run?
Different thing is if you want custom 2.2 made from the official stock ruu, that could be found.
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I did'nt know, I thought that was possible?
So you can only change hboot if your running a custom rom?
Yes, cause stock OS, or rom, requires 250mb system partition (it's somewhere around 242-243mb leaving 7-8mb of free space). If youre up to extension of memory, choose some custom rom that fits cm7r2 hboot image and flash both.
Ohh okay.
What is the most stable custom rom with sense?
Maybe some Sense 3.0
Here you go:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=809328
Just read, they are all more or less stable...
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hey guys, i have a friend who wants me to make his desire bravo to jelly bean... after searching and reading for a while, i saw many many jb roms for the desire... any suggestions on what to use??
Keep searching and reading
Find the guides to s-off and root if you haven't already, partition your sdcard, then try a few Roms to find the right one for your friend.
Generally they're not as fast or stable as gb roms, but are still getting a lot of attention and development.
Good luck!
I would go for vj builds, cm based v5.41 is pretty stable and remarkably fast, I also like the slim v 2.0.
kevikevs244277 said:
hey guys, i have a friend who wants me to make his desire bravo to jelly bean... after searching and reading for a while, i saw many many jb roms for the desire... any suggestions on what to use??
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Of course it is a matter of taste...
But I have tried lots of jb roms and I would recommend AOKP VJ 4.2.2 Jelly Bean v2.2 because it is fast and has a great memory management.
If you like a little Xperia on your Desire, you could also try RSK TEAM ā
ORIOLA Xperia Zā
with XPERIA Z LOCKSCREEN. It is also very smooth and stable.
eddiehk6 said:
Keep searching and reading
Find the guides to s-off and root if you haven't already, partition your sdcard, then try a few Roms to find the right one for your friend.
Generally they're not as fast or stable as gb roms, but are still getting a lot of attention and development.
Good luck!
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about what you said, is there a chronological order to the tweaks?
like you will have to root first then s-off then etc.??
and ehat is the difference from the rom and hboot??
kevikevs244277 said:
about what you said, is there a chronological order to the tweaks?
like you will have to root first then s-off then etc.??
and ehat is the difference from the rom and hboot??
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In this thread ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2263642), I helped this guy install JellyBean on his Desire. Check it out.
abaaaabbbb63 said:
In this thread ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2263642), I helped this guy install JellyBean on his Desire. Check it out.
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thanks for the link..
so what's hboot all about? didn't read it from your posts..
i saw this
HTML:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2213033
the download link is only the hboot...
what then is the difference from rom and hboot??
thanks for the reply guys..
kevikevs244277 said:
thanks for the link..
so what's hboot all about? didn't read it from your posts..
i saw this
HTML:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2213033
the download link is only the hboot...
what then is the difference from rom and hboot??
thanks for the reply guys..
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A hboot is the partitioning of your internal memory. You have 3 internal partitions: /system, /cache and /data. Hboots change the space allocated for each. These are the Alpharev hboots (You can get them at alpharev.nl)
Hboot Name | /system /cache /data
Bravo Stock 250Mb 40Mb 147Mb
Bravo N1Table 145Mb 95Mb 197Mb
Bravo Data++ 180Mb 5Mb 252Mb
Bravo Sense 180Mb 40Mb 217Mb
Bravo Oxygen r2 100Mb 5Mb 332Mb
Bravo CM7 r2 145Mb 5Mb 287Mb
You now have the stock hboot, the first one. Changing hboot can help with increasing internal memory, like the CM7r2 hboot, which gives you 287mb of internal memory, instead of the stock 147mb.
okay... so they are two independent structures??
or you have to have this specific hboot for a specific rom??
kevikevs244277 said:
okay... so they are two independent structures??
or you have to have this specific hboot for a specific rom??
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ul need stock hboot if ur going to use JellyBean roms. (u have stock hboot)
thanks... one last thing..
how do i s-off the phone which is already rooted?
kevikevs244277 said:
thanks... one last thing..
how do i s-off the phone which is already rooted?
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With revolutionary. You have to be on either a stock rooted rom, or on cm7.
abaaaabbbb63 said:
With revolutionary. You have to be on either a stock rooted rom, or on cm7.
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Also you need to have usb debugging enabled on the device before using Revolutionary. This is in the phone settings>app>development.
Hope this helps.
is there any download mirrors for the hboot driver besides the one at unrevoked? seems that the site is down today...
kevikevs244277 said:
is there any download mirrors for the hboot driver besides the one at unrevoked? seems that the site is down today...
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Lol look 2 threads below this 1.
EDIT: i have my computer on, here u go..
i am now on cm7r2 hboot i found many roms cant be installed on ....
so i used another hboot (alpharev ) as it flashes most of rom
but i need to reset it to stock hboot and i dont know its name ... is it revolutionary or what???
and i want to know which is best ...that hboots or the stock one
ahmed_alaa said:
i am now on cm7r2 hboot i found many roms cant be installed on ....
so i used another hboot (alpharev ) as it flashes most of rom
but i need to reset it to stock hboot and i dont know its name ... is it revolutionary or what???
and i want to know which is best ...that hboots or the stock one
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Flash the stock hboot from alpharev similar to the way you flashed cm7r2.
There is nothing like best hboot. Its just partitions your phones internal memory.
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Do you want to change to Stock ROM?
Hi, can anyone please help me in flashing a rom to my HTC Desire A8181. I am really frustrated with my phone because it has a very limited build-in storage which is a problem when I want to download app that is really big. Besides, it is really slow. So, I have decided that I want to flash a rom to make it runs faster and have more storage after deleting the default OS.
Currently, my OS is Android 2.2.2, I have tried to update it online but it says there's nothing to update to. I have not rooted my device before. Is there a way to just flash the rom and not root the device. If there isn't, doesn't matter. But can you please tell me the process of it, I really don't any of it, I have searched the forum but I am stuck at the s-off because I don't understand anything further than that.
Furthermore, what rom do you recommend so that my device will be running fast and smooth?
Thanks!
This is the process: S-off > install custom recovery > flash rom
To s-off you will need to use revolutionary. Boot into hboot (turn phone off then boot up using volume down + power). You will see the hboot version at the top. In order to use revolutionary your hboot needs to be 0.93.0001 or 1.02.0001, so hope its one of those.
Once youve s-offed Id recommend installing 4ext recovery. You will also need to create an ext partition (and optionally install an optimized hboot to gain more internal space for app data). Once thats done pick a rom and flash it. I would suggest any of mildwilds roms.
Chromium_ said:
This is the process: S-off > install custom recovery > flash rom
To s-off you will need to use revolutionary. Boot into hboot (turn phone off then boot up using volume down + power). You will see the hboot version at the top. In order to use revolutionary your hboot needs to be 0.93.0001 or 1.02.0001, so hope its one of those.
Once youve s-offed Id recommend installing 4ext recovery. You will also need to create an ext partition (and optionally install an optimized hboot to gain more internal space for app data). Once thats done pick a rom and flash it. I would suggest any of mildwilds roms.
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Ok, so 4ext Recovery is to backup my phone? Besides, can you please tell me why do I need to create an ext partition. What is the ext partition for? Thanks! Yes, my hboot is 0.93.0001. BRAVO PVT1 SHIP S-ON
Erenjag said:
Ok, so 4ext Recovery is to backup my phone? Besides, can you please tell me why do I need to create an ext partition. What is the ext partition for? Thanks! Yes, my hboot is 0.93.0001. BRAVO PVT1 SHIP S-ON
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You use 4ext Recovery to Nandroid backup your rom - if anything goes wrong while flashing custom rom you can revert back to previous state.
ext partition (recommend 1gb ext4) is primarily for App2SD (can also be done via 4ext recovery).
Consider changing HBOOT to Oxygen r2 to expand maximum internal memory once s-off have been achieved.
I also recommend Mildwild Roms.
Thanks guys! I have successfully rooted my device, flashed the mildwild rom and created an ext-partition in my sd card. Really appreciate all your help!
Can someone please help give me the procedure to do this flashing process???
n.aris442 said:
Can someone please help give me the procedure to do this flashing process???
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What do You want flash a custom rom? Then you need to s off which will allow you to flash the rom from recovery instead of unlocking the bootloader that u have to use fastboot to flash rom you can also root your phone if u want to.
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lilsafbig said:
What do You want flash a custom rom? Then you need to s off which will allow you to flash the rom from recovery instead of unlocking the bootloader that u have to use fastboot to flash rom you can also root your phone if u want to.
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U dont flash a rom via fastboot, always in recovery.
jmcclue said:
U dont flash a rom via fastboot, always in recovery.
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Even in s on? The boot.IMG
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lilsafbig said:
Even in s on? The boot.IMG
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Yh well the boot.img is not the rom, its basically the kernel.