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[Q] How to find what HBoot?

Hi
I have successfully rooted and s-off'ed my HTC Desire using the guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016084
But im confused by HBOOT and ROM's having CM7 and A2SD versions. I initially flashed the insertcoin ROM using the A2SD version and then decided to try SGBS again using the A2SD version. But am I safe to use the CM7 version? How do I know what HBOOT i have on my phone? If I boot holding down the volume etc i see HBOOT 0.93.0001.
I understand CM7 stores some files on the internal memeory so im thinking things might be slightly quicker if i use the CM7 version ROMS.
Thanks

Did you ever flash a hboot via fastboot? If not, you are on stock hboot.

MatDrOiD said:
Did you ever flash a hboot via fastboot? If not, you are on stock hboot.
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Hi
I dont think so, i followed the guide. How would I know now?
Can i flash new hboot with just the phone via zip file? If so, what file do i need on the alpharev site?

theboss4 said:
Hi
I dont think so, i followed the guide. How would I know now?
Can i flash new hboot with just the phone via zip file? If so, what file do i need on the alpharev site?
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To flash from Your phone via zip you need the pb99img.zip. just make sure you read the steps on the alpharev web site ad you need to rename the file and check the md5
sent from my Oxygen desire

theboss4 said:
Hi
I dont think so, i followed the guide. How would I know now?
Can i flash new hboot with just the phone via zip file? If so, what file do i need on the alpharev site?
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Either download the PB99IMG file from AlphaRev, rename to PB99IMG.zip, place it at the root of your sdcard and flash via bootloader. Or download the IMG file, enter fastboot mode and connect to your computer, then use fastboot flasher or the likes of it or use fastboot flash hboot "name of img" in command prompt.
Eg. To flash CM7r2 hBOOT via command prompt just connect the phone to your computer in fastboot mode, 'fastboot devices' to ensure your phone is recognized and then 'fastboot flash hboot bravo_alphaspl-cm7r2.img'.
Sent from my HTC Original Desire with Beats Audio using Tapatalk

When you enter fastboot mode, youve got your hboot written at the top of the screen (if it says "alpharev" its stock hboot, just s-offed).
Edit:
If you havent flashed any hboot except for having your phone s-offed, you should have stock hboot then. You can change your hboot easily by using android flasher (you can download it from: http://deltaxent.com.au/af/download.php?device=desire), youve got to be in the fastboot mode and have all needed drivers.
And, to be clear, hboot doesnt make any I/O operations faster, it just partition your internal memory for a different parts of a rom (simplified explanation and im not completely sure of that).

Please use the Q&A Forum for questions Thanks
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theboss4 said:
Hi
I have successfully rooted and s-off'ed my HTC Desire using the guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016084
But im confused by HBOOT and ROM's having CM7 and A2SD versions. I initially flashed the insertcoin ROM using the A2SD version and then decided to try SGBS again using the A2SD version. But am I safe to use the CM7 version? How do I know what HBOOT i have on my phone? If I boot holding down the volume etc i see HBOOT 0.93.0001.
I understand CM7 stores some files on the internal memeory so im thinking things might be slightly quicker if i use the CM7 version ROMS.
Thanks
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If your bootloader says hboot 0.93.0001, you're on stock boot.
Also, if you would be on any other, it would be clearly stated in your bootloader (cm7r2 instead of 0.93.0001). I'm on stock myself, but asked the same question couple of days ago .
Sent from my HTC Runnymede using XDA App

Thanks for all the advice and help. I'm going to stick with stock for now.

you might not, because you see, different ROMs need different HBoots. Most work with the stock one, but many require the CM7 r2 too.

[Q] unrevoked unrooted my desire

Hi there,
A year ago or so i got a desire, rooted it with unrevoked (amazing app, thanks to the developers), flashed clockworkmod 2.0.5.X (can't remember) and leedroid's 2.5.0 (after playing around with some others). However, a few months ago it started freezing without reason. Supposedly, a reformat of the sd card would fix that. Therefore, I backed up, installed latest Clockworkmod (5.0.2, with rom manager RM) and used RM to format the sd resulting in an error. When I booted in recovery I realized I already have S-ON and clockworkmod 2.0.5 (altough RM keep saying me i have 5.0.2). After that I used unrevoked 3.32 in an attempt to fix all that mess. However, the only thing I got was to have an unrooted desire!!!
My actual config is:
Bravo PVT1 SHIP S-ON
HBOOT-0.80.0000
MICROP-031d
TOUCH PANEL-SYNT0101
RADIO-5.17.05.08
Mar 29 2010, 21:34:33
I have tried using unrevoked again but nothing. Alphrev to raise the hboot version but my phone is actually unrooted. I don't know what to do, any help please!?!
Thanks in advance and apologies for the long speech

Do you have a custom ROM? then you have root. I don't think you quite grasp the concept of what "root" means.
1) You only need to run unrevoked on the stock 2.2 Froyo ROM if you would like to have that rooted.
2) ROM Manager sucks arse harder than a jet engine on full power. Do not use it, do everything manually through recovery
3) You are rooted, if your phone is giving you issues just do a full wipe and re-flash the ROM.
Full wipe:
/mounts & storage
> format boot
> format data
> format cache
> format system
> format sd-ext (if available)
If you would like to flash a different recovery, it is best to do it through Fastboot. For that, you need to be S-OFF. You have 2 options here.
1) Use the Alpharev live CD to S-OFF
2) Create a goldcard, use the latest WWE RUU to update your phone and it's bootloader, then use revolutionary
Then flash recovery.
You can find lots of help on my guide... it's not that easy to miss...

Hi bortak, thanks for the quick response!!
I'm really kinda newbie in these things. Yeah, i have a custom rom and yes, I was rooted. However, I do really think I am unrooted because titanium backup (through superuser app that comes with leedroid's rom) says at startup that I'm not rooted. Is there any other way to know for sure?
As you suggest, I thought on alpharev to s-off an then flash an updated recovery+rom. But I can't if unrooted (I don't know if that matters but my hboot is 0.80).
Is the goldcard+WWE RUU+revolutionary safe in my case?
Thanks a lot!

bortak said:
Do you have a custom ROM? then you have root. I don't think you quite grasp the concept of what "root" means.
1) You only need to run unrevoked on the stock 2.2 Froyo ROM if you would like to have that rooted.
2) ROM Manager sucks arse harder than a jet engine on full power. Do not use it, do everything manually through recovery
3) You are rooted, if your phone is giving you issues just do a full wipe and re-flash the ROM.
Full wipe:
/mounts & storage
> format boot
> format data
> format cache
> format system
> format sd-ext (if available)
If you would like to flash a different recovery, it is best to do it through Fastboot. For that, you need to be S-OFF. You have 2 options here.
1) Use the Alpharev live CD to S-OFF
2) Create a goldcard, use the latest WWE RUU to update your phone and it's bootloader, then use revolutionary
Then flash recovery.
You can find lots of help on my guide... it's not that easy to miss...
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bortak I've read in your guide (amazing, thanks in the name of humankind ) and found that revolutionary only supports hboots 0.93.0001 and 1.02.0001 but mine is 0.80.0000.
Visionary is useful in case of not having a recovery, but I have clockworkmod 2.0.5. Is there any way to root my desire again so I can use alpharev to get s-off?
With s-off I could install an updated CWM so I can format the sd or install an stock RUU to get the phone to service center, am I right?
Thanks!!!

Dear coriscow
You may follow the below steps:
1. Download and Instal the official Gingerbread update for Desire which is available in developer.htc.com
2. Root the device using Unrevoked method
3. Flash a custom ROM (if you wish)
I hope it will solve your issue.
Thanks-
Shuprio

shuprio said:
Dear coriscow
You may follow the below steps:
1. Download and Instal the official Gingerbread update for Desire which is available in developer.htc.com
2. Root the device using Unrevoked method
3. Flash a custom ROM (if you wish)
I hope it will solve your issue.
Thanks-
Shuprio
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Shuprio I was about to reflash leedroid 2.5 again (formating sdcard and sd-ext). But I'll do as you say, thanks.
One thing, by 'the official Gingerbread update for Desire' you mean an WWE RUU, right?? As my phone has Clockworkmod but S-ON and is unrooted. However, yesterday I could install a new radio and RIL so I think it'll let me flash a ROM. If not (and i don't get a brick ) I think I'll go with the goldcard
Thanks!!

coriscow said:
Shuprio I was about to reflash leedroid 2.5 again (formating sdcard and sd-ext). But I'll do as you say, thanks.
One thing, by 'the official Gingerbread update for Desire' you mean an WWE RUU, right?? As my phone has Clockworkmod but S-ON and is unrooted. However, yesterday I could install a new radio and RIL so I think it'll let me flash a ROM. If not (and i don't get a brick ) I think I'll go with the goldcard
Thanks!!
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Yes Coriscow. It is the RUU. Best of luck! Hope everything will be fine.
Thanks-
Shuprio

Just flash a rooted stock Rom or restore your first nandroid.
Fyi if you run unrevoked, it messes up the super user application so you have to clear data on it to get it working again
Sent from my HTC Desire using xda premium

rootSU said:
Just flash a rooted stock Rom or restore your first nandroid.
Fyi if you run unrevoked, it messes up the super user application so you have to clear data on it to get it working again
Sent from my HTC Desire using xda premium
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rootSU that's it, thanks!
My main concern was that the phone was (seemed to be) unrooted and unrevoked could not change that. However wiping the data through the recovery did it
Now I will try to fix all the other thins like flashing a RUU to update the HBOOT. If so use revolutionary
Thanks you all, i'll keep you posted as I do thing

I did it!!! At this point I'm S-OFF (I never was), updated hboot, rooted (I already was but, as rootsu said, unrevoked messed something up), fresh leedriod install and the problem about the phone freezeing randomly seems to have disappeared after a full sd and sdext format. Thank you all for the help, the guides, and so and so

Need some answer...please!

hi guys,
today i made the s-off on my desire and i've question:
first of all,how can i check if the procedure is gone well?
i was using the cyanogenmod 7 with stock hboot and a 1gb ext3 partition on my sd;i still need the partition now?
how can i install other hboot?
and how can i flash a rom for s-off desire?till now i flash rom from recovery,but now?
thank you very very much guys

renji said:
hi guys,
today i made the s-off on my desire and i've question:
first of all,how can i check if the procedure is gone well?
i was using the cyanogenmod 7 with stock hboot and a 1gb ext3 partition on my sd;i still need the partition now?
how can i install other hboot?
and how can i flash a rom for s-off desire?till now i flash rom from recovery,but now?
thank you very very much guys
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I cannot answer all your questions, but there is a tutorial in the development section, where you can read about most of these things. If you still have questions afterwards, ask then.
Sent from my HTC Runnymede using xda premium

For S-OFF, you should see at the top of hboot screen (Powering with volume button) "S-OFF".
1 GB sd-ext would be enough, i have lots of programs inside, taking just 340 mbs.
For other hboots, please read the first thread about "how to -- root, s-off, hboot etc."
You will use the same way, (recovery-install zip-choose zip..."
Enjoy CM

as quoted above hboot to check your s-off,if you are s-off you have more options available to you,but you can only flash stock hboot roms.if you wish to flash cm7 or cm7/r2 you must flash your hboot to change it...
would recommend ext4 recovery,with this you can partition your sd card,align it,and convert from ext to ext 4 etc.
fastboot comander for flashing your hboot,its more nOOb friendly
please follow all rom instructions to the letter,or you will end up with lagg and freeze issues,read up on the nOOb instructions
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016084

Hi guys,thank you very much for the usefull answears!
Just another question :the ext partition should be 3 or 4?does it depend by the Rom i wanna flash?

renji said:
Hi guys,thank you very much for the usefull answears!
Just another question :the ext partition should be 3 or 4?does it depend by the Rom i wanna flash?
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You need ext4 to most recent ROMs. 4ext recovery can convert partition formats without loss of data.
Sent from my HTC Runnymede using xda premium

Thx coempi

Desire Bravo. I have s-off want to root (or flash runnyRom)

Hello guys, I bought an HTC Desire Bravo from ebay. It is already S-OFF but the rom is not rooted. I want to either root the current rom or even better install runnyRom. I tried unrevoked and I get a "CID is missing" error. From what I read it has to do with my phone being already s-off.
Right now it has Android 2.2 running. So what can I do to install runny rom? Thanks in advance.

Wrong section dude, post this on Q&A.

sthbr82 said:
Wrong section dude, post this on Q&A.
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Sorry. If some administrator can move it...please do.

try http://unlockroot.com/

try this http://revolutionary.io/

sthbr82 said:
Wrong section dude, post this on Q&A.
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This is Q&A. Make sure YOU know where u r before having a go at others "dude"! Lol. Go to stickies and read bortaks guide
Sent from my HTC Desire

panagath said:
Hello guys, I bought an HTC Desire Bravo from ebay. It is already S-OFF but the rom is not rooted. I want to either root the current rom or even better install runnyRom. I tried unrevoked and I get a "CID is missing" error. From what I read it has to do with my phone being already s-off.
Right now it has Android 2.2 running. So what can I do to install runny rom? Thanks in advance.
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U r already s-off... Hope u r sure about that... Coz that means u r already rooted...
To flash runny Rom u vll need a touch recovery.... I would recommend 4ext recovery.... Link in my signature...
Also partition ur sd card... 1gb should be enough... Do it by 4ext recovery...

akhillad said:
U r already s-off... Hope u r sure about that... Coz that means u r already rooted...
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s-off and rooted are actually slightly different. you can be s-off but not rooted as stated in the OP
s-off fully disables nand security, rooted means you have root privileges
@panagath
do you have a custom recovery installed? (power off your phone, then power and vol-down, wait a little then select recovery).
if not install a recovery, i would recommend 4ext as above. flash the recovery.img through fastboot (google how to install drivers)
to root your current rom (if you want to install something like titanium backup and transfer apps across to new rom), flash the superuser zip in recovery from revolutionary page.
to flash a different rom, boot into recovery, wipe everything and flash the rom.zip. check if you require a different hboot and/or an ext partition on your sd card (backup everything to PC first... partition with 4ext or gparted).

eddiehk6 said:
s-off and rooted are actually slightly different. you can be s-off but not rooted as stated in the OP
s-off fully disables nand security, rooted means you have root privileges
@panagath
do you have a custom recovery installed? (power off your phone, then power and vol-down, wait a little then select recovery).
if not install a recovery, i would recommend 4ext as above. flash it through fastboot (google how to install drivers) or the app
to root your current rom (if you want to install something like titanium backup and transfer apps across to new rom), flash the superuser zip in recovery from revolutionary page.
to flash a different rom, boot into recovery, wipe everything and flash the rom.zip. check if you require a different hboot and/or an ext partition on your sd card (backup everything to PC first... partition with 4ext or gparted).
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Exactly more info in bortaks guide (stickies) go down too Number 11 in guide.
Sent from my HTC Desire

eddiehk6 said:
s-off and rooted are actually slightly different. you can be s-off but not rooted as stated in the OP
s-off fully disables nand security, rooted means you have root privileges
@panagath
do you have a custom recovery installed? (power off your phone, then power and vol-down, wait a little then select recovery).
if not install a recovery, i would recommend 4ext as above. flash the recovery.img through fastboot (google how to install drivers)
to root your current rom (if you want to install something like titanium backup and transfer apps across to new rom), flash the superuser zip in recovery from revolutionary page.
to flash a different rom, boot into recovery, wipe everything and flash the rom.zip. check if you require a different hboot and/or an ext partition on your sd card (backup everything to PC first... partition with 4ext or gparted).
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Thanks for the info....
Never knew this fact...

S-Off / Partition Ext SD Etc

Hey Guys,
Longtime no see.
Last Android I ran was a nook color that I flashed with gingerbread and that was a whole other kettle of fish.
I was donated a HTC Desire GSM and couldn't help myself and rooted it with unrevoked.
Then I updated the rom to Nikez Lentes ICS rom and I am very happy with it.
Now, I installed CWM and when it flashes it says that it is V5.0.2 but when I boot into recovery it is actually V2.5.0.
After a bit of reading I see that the author of the ROM and others and now using 4EXT Recovery so I bought that and went to give it a go but the S-ON is stopping it ( I booted into recovery and indeed it is S-ON currently ).
So reading up on how to turn ON to OFF I see unrevoked and alpharev have a solution for windows and linux only. ( I have VM windows and a raspberry pi linux ( but i assume the pi would be too underpowered to do this update))
I have read the wiki and read on the FAQ on this site that if you are not running the stock HTC rom that there could be an issue, is that correct ?
After all this, I am really just trying to make a Ext-SD partition on my SD card, cause the rom is like 120mb of the 140mb internal partition and I can't install enough apps to be happy.. lol.
I have the CWR image of V5.0.2 but am not sure really how to update it ( V2.5 is green text and V5.0 is blue so im sure I have the older version )
Or im happy to use 4EXT for my rom needs, but I need to change my S-ON to OFF to be able to flash the recovery and partition it that way.
If anyone can help that would be great, the whole setup has been rather painless and i'd like to keep it that way, I need the phone to work, but I would like to install more apps on the phone. The ROM also has a script built in so that is not the problem, just making a partition on the SD card really is what I need right now.
Thanks,
Steve

would it be because im currently S-OFF that I can't flash recovery above V2.5.0 or install 4EXT Recovery ?

Are you SON or SOFF ? Write down what your bootloader says.
1. Alpharev quote
Requirements:
The only requirement right now is that the ROM you're running is rooted.
As techniques such as 'data2ext' have been popping up, these might disturb our finely-tuned flashing process.
Please revert to a rooted stock ROM if possible. Your /data partition is used for temporary storage of important files.
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I dont know whether it will work with ICS though. I wouldnt try it since this is a bootloader mod. Maybe best to go stock rooted rom before running alpharev.
Revolutionary is the other option for getting soff.

I am S-ON,
I ran unrevoked to root my phone, I want to make it S-OFF now.
I am asking how I can do it with my ICS rom and I don't want any issues, but I want to be able to make a SD-EXT partition to run apps2sd.
Steve

steveb_123 said:
I am S-ON,
I ran unrevoked to root my phone, I want to make it S-OFF now.
I am asking how I can do it with my ICS rom and I don't want any issues, but I want to be able to make a SD-EXT partition to run apps2sd.
Steve
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Read my post. Best to go to a stock rooted rom before running alpharev. Thereafter flash 4ext. Partition your sdcard with 4ext. Flash rom of your choice.

Can I ask why it is better to go to a stock rooted rom ?
Installing the stock rom, and stock radio, to then run alpharev, to then root, to then install 4ext, sounds like a lot of work just to unlock the S-ON.

That is alpharev requirement. Read my first post.
Link for rooted stock romlink

Where does it say you need to run a stock rooted rom ?
http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/revolutionary
the stock rooted rom that is U (updated) seems to be pulled and this guy has a URL at the top saying he has pulled the rom due to internal XDA fights.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1151765

My suggestion is to run 2.3 ruu from htc dev and then use revolutionary, two flies in one hit, s-off and custom recovery, and then flashing su over recovery. Though you'll get cwm recovery after first boot you'll be able to flash 4ext.
Sent from my GT-P3100 using Flashes and Thunders

Thanks for that nloooo,
I downloaded, unrar'd and unzipped the folder and can see the 2.3 RUU exe there, so I just run that in a windows machine ?
then rev, then reflash you are suggesting ?
is it worth trying revolutionary without returning to stock RUU and if it doesn't work, then installing the 2.3 RUU ?

It alk depends on hboit version your phone has. If it is 0.93 or 1.02 than it should work no matter which rom you have. I'm suggesting 2.3 ruu cause you'll get 1.02 hboot and you're good to go.
Sent from my GT-P3100 using Flashes and Thunders

My hboot is 0.93.
If 0.93 + revolutionary could work, I would prefer to do it that way because I am very green playing with android (mostly just use non-jailbroken apple gear) But I am loving the desire + ICS.
Thank you handy and nlooo for replying.

NLoooo should I be ok to try revolutionary without returning to stock rooted rom ?

steveb_123 said:
NLoooo should I be ok to try revolutionary without returning to stock rooted rom ?
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You can always try, if it doesn't work you won't have any problems phone will work the same.
Sent from my HTC Desire using Flashes and Thunders

Thanks nlooo, you've been a huge help