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I have been planning to s-off my desire for weeks now, i have some questions just in case i dont brick my phone.
1. i am using coolsense hd v10 rom, is it ok to s-off? or do i need the stock rom
2. if i nid the stock rom, can i just flash the ruu and root again, then s-off
3. can i s-off using alpharev via vmware
4. how to prevent alpharev from changing my splash screen
BRAVO PVT3 SHIP S-ON
HBOOT-0.93.0001
MICROP-051d
TOUCH PANEL-SYNT0101
RADIO-5.09.05.30.2
AUG 10 2010,17:52:10
Are you serious?
what u mean
It doesn't matter, which rom you are using. I used the CD-method to S-Off my Desire, but I think it should also work using vmware.
You can't prevent alpharev from changing your splash screen, but there are tools in this forum, which allow you to change it to whatever you want afterwards.
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You can change the splash screen with Android Flasher - It can be found in the Developement sub-forum: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=794638
If you need a stock ROM, then you can either flash the RUU (You lose Root, S-Off) or flash a pre-rooted stock ROM (can be found in the Developement sub-forum).
S-Off via VMWare can be done, but if you are stuck use the USB or CD method instead (people reported issues with VMWare).
dont try to do S-OFF unless you are running stock rooted ROM
best is to run a RUU, then root, then go s-off
if you try to S-OFF while on a2sd+ or data2xxx rom, procedure will fail, and it might brick your phone (it fails after going past STEP3 - DONT UNPLUG YOUR P_HONE OR U WILL BRICK IT) but i unplugged it, and was ok, then RUU and again whole thing worked
I had problems with s-off on my stock sense rom (rooted).
I made a goldcard, rooted, then alpharev would not recognise my device.
Soon as I switched to rooted aosp rom (oxygen) it was fine!
dzumagos said:
dont try to do S-OFF unless you are running stock rooted ROM
best is to run a RUU, then root, then go s-off
if you try to S-OFF while on a2sd+ or data2xxx rom, procedure will fail, and it might brick your phone (it fails after going past STEP3 - DONT UNPLUG YOUR P_HONE OR U WILL BRICK IT) but i unplugged it, and was ok, then RUU and again whole thing worked
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Just flash stock rooted froyo, done the trick for me.
OP, just search for how to s-off, there are answers to all you questions available. I know that, as i only recently s-offed myself.
So, can i do this?
1. do nandroid backup
2. use froyo asia wwe ruu(im from singapore)
3. root with unrevoked
4. s-off with vmware
5. restore
But err, one question, if i was damn unlucky and brick my device, can i just use the RUU and restore it back?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1069600
Just follow the guide on the thread. If you brick your device, there is no way back. That's why its called brick. There are semi bricks, which can be fixed.
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hi my HTC Desire says PVT1 S-OFF already
this make any difference between AlphaRev S-off?? or i need to go through this method also??
Just install a rom without A2SD (like Leedroid 2.4.1 no-A2SD or Teppic's rom) and then you can S-OFF your desire. I advice you to write the .img on a cd and then boot on this, you won't encounter any issue.
Afterwards you can apply a new splash on your Desire, like the stock one (which is available on alpharev website).
Maikoru said:
Just install a rom without A2SD (like Leedroid 2.4.1 no-A2SD or Teppic's rom) and then you can S-OFF your desire. I advice you to write the .img on a cd and then boot on this, you won't encounter any issue.
Afterwards you can apply a new splash on your Desire, like the stock one (which is available on alpharev website).
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Actully i m asking my Desire shows S-off already and its unrooted, does i have to do S-off in future for all that Splash screen etc stuff...
plz also tell me i want to install Sense 3.0 type Rom which is fully working plz suggest any...
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2020shyboy said:
Actully i m asking my Desire shows S-off already and its unrooted, does i have to do S-off in future for all that Splash screen etc stuff...
plz also tell me i want to install Sense 3.0 type Rom which is fully working plz suggest any...
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pvt-4 desires try to activate bluetooth after alpharev 1.8 if it doesnt activate pm me
Hi. I've had a magic and I was very used to it. I flashed every rom I could find...
Now I got a desire and I've done a lot of reading but still have some questions.
My desire is like this:
bravo pvt1 ship S-off
Hboot - 0.93.1000
MICROP-031D
tOUCH PANEL - SYNW0101
Radio-5.17.05.08
Aug 10 2010, 17:52:18
I bought it this way.
Please tell me if I'm wrong:
From what I've read to flash a rom I just have to be careful with hboot. The question is if it is CM++ or something like this. How can I identify what mine is?
Apart from this I just have to partition my sd card in the way it is described in the topic of the rom.
Is this that easy? In the magic I had to change radio, spl and recovery depending on the rom...
Thanks!
Please write down what you see on the bootloader/hboot. Do you see anything pink on the top? Alpharev maybe?
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bravo pvt1 ship S-off
Hboot - 0.93.1000
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u did not buy it brand-new, right?
i mean its second hand.
what we see here is a rooted, and as dexter93's said, hboot was changed to, maybe using alpharev.
s-off is not default for new devices, it should be S-ON
and 0.93.1000 should be 0.93.0001
these changes r done by alpharev.
Yes, it says alpharev.
BTW I forgot to mention that I've got ultimate droid at the moment.
You have written down your info from thebootloader.
So if there is nothing like ALPHAREV CM7 in pink there, you have the stock HBOOT.
You can download the CM7 from http://alpharev.nl
AFAIK, you can flash CM7++ ROMs, too (not all tough) on the Stock HBOOT, but you will have extremely low space.
And for the SD Card partition - use at least 1GB - recommended for most ROMs.
zedaale said:
Yes, it says alpharev.
BTW I forgot to mention that I've got ultimate droid at the moment.
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What does it say next to alpharev?
Also what's your rom? radio?
Also download titanium backup from the market and tell us what you see on the partition info on the first page
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stinger1 said:
u did not buy it brand-new, right?
i mean its second hand.
what we see here is a rooted, and as dexter93's said, hboot was changed to, maybe using alpharev.
s-off is not default for new devices, it should be S-ON
and 0.93.1000 should be 0.93.0001
these changes r done by alpharev.
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I forgot to mention that, too. Sorry.
I bought it second hand with ultimate droid.
I just have been reading about the way I should flash the roms without bricking the phone...
The first line in the bootloader is: ---alpharev---
So, I preseume I'm on stock hboot, right?
I haven't got a partition on sd card. I would have to partition it, according to rom devs, right?
I'm sorry I can't answer all your questions right away because I'm a still a restricted member in terms of posts.
dexter93 said:
What does it say next to alpharev?
Also what's your rom? radio?
Also download titanium backup from the market and tell us what you see on the partition info on the first page
Sent from my HTC Desire
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Hi:
Is this the information yu want?:
---alpharev--- (pink)
bravo pvt1 ship S-off
Hboot - 0.93.1000
MICROP-031D
tOUCH PANEL - SYNW0101
Radio-5.17.05.08
Aug 10 2010, 17:52:1
zedaale said:
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I forgot to mention that, too. Sorry.
I bought it second hand with ultimate droid.
I just have been reading about the way I should flash the roms without bricking the phone...
The first line in the bootloader is: ---alpharev---
So, I preseume I'm on stock hboot, right?
I haven't got a partition on sd card. I would have to partition it, according to rom devs, right?
I'm sorry I can't answer all your questions right away because I'm a still a restricted member in terms of posts.
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no you are not on stock hboot.
i think the first owner of the device have changed the hboot
mostly he did it using alpharev
check this
http://alpharev.nl/
regarding the partition... you may want to do it in case you want to use app2sd, or data2sd, (app2sd+, data2ext, data2whatever) all this stuff need ext partition on the sdcard.
you can use amonRa or other methods to create a partition.
Hi, thanks for the reply.
But what do I have to do to flash the reflex rom, for example?
Do I need to change hboot? Or do I only need to change hboot if the developer says so?
Otherwise it's just partitioning the sd card and flashing the rom?
zedaale said:
Hi, thanks for the reply.
But what do I have to do to flash the reflex rom, for example?
Do I need to change hboot? Or do I only need to change hboot if the developer says so?
Otherwise it's just partitioning the sd card and flashing the rom?
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yes you have to pay attention to the devs notes, some times they say Stock Hboot, sometimes they say ... its ok any one works, or this one only ...
using any rom ... well you have to check if the size of system partition will fit the size of the rom otherwise it will not install/work.
maybe other members will help you better, cuz i am on stock hboot, and never been in this stuff in details.
You are not on the stock hboot, but youve got the stock mtd partitioning. this means that as long as a developer doesnt mention hboot or says "stock", you are fine just follow the developers instructions to flash the rom. Most of the roms need an additional ext2/3/4 partition on your sd, after the fat one, so if the dev of the rom says so, you might need to make one
Ok. Thank You dexter and every one else for the help.
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hey guys, I'm actually really noobfabulous, and am already proud that I didn't post anything stupid in the devforum but, since this is Q&A, here I go, first post ftw:
I just managed to root my RUU Rom, and to s-off with the alpharev and partitioned, nand-backup ( from the everything desire thread ). Now I do have two questions...
1) is the Hboot I'm currently running the Bravo Stock 1.8? ( havent changed a thing yet )
2) if not, how do I flash this? the installnotes provided on alpharev aren't sufficient for me, i.e., not knowing how to flash something in fastboot, I only know how to flash in recovery...
this is what I currently have, will just write everything down ^^
--- Alpharev --- ( pink )
Bravo PVT4 SHIP S-OFF
Hboot- 0.93.0001
microp-051d
TOUCH PANEL-SYNW0101
radio-5.11.05.27
Edit: Misread your post. Thought you were referring to if you were running AlphaRev or stock hboot.
broshkovischj said:
hey guys, I'm actually really noobfabulous, and am already proud that I didn't post anything stupid in the devforum but, since this is Q&A, here I go, first post ftw:
I just managed to root my RUU Rom, and to s-off with the alpharev and partitioned, nand-backup ( from the everything desire thread ). Now I do have two questions...
1) is the Hboot I'm currently running the Bravo Stock 1.8? ( havent changed a thing yet )
2) if not, how do I flash this? the installnotes provided on alpharev aren't sufficient for me, i.e., not knowing how to flash something in fastboot, I only know how to flash in recovery...
this is what I currently have, will just write everything down ^^
--- Alpharev --- ( pink )
Bravo PVT4 SHIP S-OFF
Hboot- 0.93.0001
microp-051d
TOUCH PANEL-SYNW0101
radio-5.11.05.27
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I kinda figured out that I can just download the hboot table I want, put it on the root of my sdcard and boot in hboot ( as stated on the website, apparantly wasn't thorough enough reading! )
on which rest only one question for me: it's no harm if I have a different hboot, say, that 'Bravo Stock 1.8', and flash another on top of it, say, Bravo CM7? will it just override? Am not gonna trial 'n error on this one, I'm too afraid haha
Great question. I would like to know that, too...
I haven´t understood the hboot thing yet.
broshkovischj said:
I kinda figured out that I can just download the hboot table I want, put it on the root of my sdcard and boot in hboot ( as stated on the website, apparantly wasn't thorough enough reading! )
on which rest only one question for me: it's no harm if I have a different hboot, say, that 'Bravo Stock 1.8', and flash another on top of it, say, Bravo CM7? will it just override? Am not gonna trial 'n error on this one, I'm too afraid haha
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Yes you just follow the instructions on that alpharev site, and flash over the old one. Remember you will be wiping everything afterward, so nandroid backup first. there is more detail in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=794314
for the S-OFF and HBoot questions ... here is what i know ...
btw i am still S-ON (i am too lazy to do all this stuff lol)
you need to do a nand-backup anyways ...
1- first time when you do the alpharev (using the ISO) it will s-off ur device
2- now you can flash any other hboot from the list, using the fastboot
command
3- when you pick an hboot, the partitions size are mentioned next to it.
so if you are planning to still using the same (current) rom u have, u need to pick an hboot that the size of system,data, cache, ... fits the current rom,...
you can know that from the nand-backup u did, go and look at the size of system.img, and other file in the nand-backup folder, and see if they fit the hboot u will flash.
(fit means: the size of the system part of the hboot u want to flash is >= the size of system.img from nand-backup folder) and so on for other parts
otherwise, if you want to flash another rom, then you will pick any hboot u want, or STICK TO THE ROM DEVELOPER REQUEST. (some devs say, we need cm7 hboot for this rom)
so thats it, the main reason is to s-off,
then u can flash anything from fastboot:
radio, receovery img, rom, ... and so on.
hope this helps
great this is giving me a real understanding of what I'm doing
if you don't mind, i'd like to ask another question, feel free to tell me to gtfo
I'd like to take an example ( of which I think is a good example, because it has multiple options:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1040121
the Cool3D Sense rom requires:
either CM7 Hboot 130MB System, 5MB Cache, 302MB Data.
or DATA++ Hboot 180MB System, 5MB Cache, 252MB Data.
or Stock Hboot 250MB System, 40MB Cache, 147MB Data.
Stock Hboot Users need to Flash A2sd+ Script After Installing The ROM.
so if I understand correctly, I can install this rom with the CM7 hboot, without partitioning my SD card? because I don't need to flash A2sd script with that one. It also has the biggest Data partition. Because Stock Hboot only has 147, it needs to transfer the apps to the sdcard...?
I'm sorry if I'm kicking in an open door, but I really don't want to mess up my phone, so it's better to ask ^^
cheers, and thanks for all the help already
hi guys,
I am trying to s-off my Telus Desire GSM with hboot .83.
I tried to use the alpharev cd method and it failed.
I was told i can flash an RUU with an upgraded HBOOT (.93) which would then allow me to use the new revolutionary method of S-OFF.
My question is, which RUU is safe to install that will still allow me to get root after and and also contains the new HBOOT so i can s-off? Or is this not the correct way to go about it?
Thanks
Why did alpharev fail? Did you try to get help in alpharev irc channel?
If you flash official gingerbread update by HTC, hboot gets updated to version 1.xxx and you can try to go s-off and root with revolutionary.
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Alpharev fails with Gingerbread roms.
This is your case?
Use the official RUU from htcdev.com
ironjon said:
Alpharev fails with Gingerbread roms.
This is your case?
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thats not true..alpharev fails with a2sd/data2sd roms and with hboot 1.x
I was using a gingerbread rom without A2SD when I tried the alpharev CD version.
My previous rom was A2SD so i loaded one that wasn't but alpharev still failed with the unary operator expected error.
I went into the IRC channel and they said the CD method was deprecated now in favour of revolutionary. They recommended I flash an RUU with a newer bootloader and then use revolutionary for s-off.
nektario said:
I was using a gingerbread rom without A2SD.....and it failed with the unary operator expected error. I went into the IRC channel and they said the CD method was deprecated now in favour of revolutionary. They recommended I flash and RUU with a newer bootloader and then use revolutionary for s-off.
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probably run the htc gingerbread ruu and then revolutionary is much easy..but the error unary operator is related to a rom with a2sd usually..what the rom u was using when tried with alpharev?
I was using the smallest rom I could find, FLUX without a2sd.
Is rooting/s-off from the stock HTC Gingerbread RUU always successful?
nektario said:
I was using the smallest rom I could find, FLUX without a2sd.
Is rooting/s-off from the stock HTC Gingerbread RUU always successful?
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if u flash succesfull the ruu and the phone boot (some users reported bootloop just after the ruu..i dont know how much true), revolutionary will go easily..u can also try to flash a rom like cm7 or oxygen and try alpharev again
Thanks for the info. I might try it with cyanogen and alpharev and see how it goes.
Hello,
bravo-gsm, rooted by unrevoked, hboot 0.83, radio 5.17 and cm7.1.0rc1: same problem.
phone is stuck after alpharev0.8's first boot (after step 1/3, automatic phone reboot, "Dozing off for about a minute while we wait").
#revolutionary told me to upgrade hboot to 0.93 or 1.02
Is there any other way than playing with hboot (before alpharev/revolutionary plays with it itself) ?
I tried some roms without "data2ext*" with no luck.
I doubt it comes from the rom itself since the process (first alpharev's boot) stays stuck in hboot.
Flashing RUU roms is quite frightening since it is not clear whether they ship hboots, and if yes which versions.
Any suggestion ?
The problem is not your hboot. The problem is you are not using a rooted stock Rom. Flash teppic74's rooted stock Froyo or restore your first nandroid, then it will work
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Thanks !
That worked but that was not the only problem.
The other one was between the chair and the keyboard.
As I did not want to burn a cd for a one time use, I decided that extracting and executing binaries from alpharev's iso would do it. And of course I was wrong. It was (silently!) failing because of probably many reasons, one of them was the use of /data directory which hardly exists in standard linux distributions.
I managed to make a bootable usb stick from the iso thanks to linux's unetbootin.
Then the s-off automagically succeeded. Flashing patched hboot did not succeed using the PB99IMG method (cid problem, probably unknown brand?). But the fastboot method made it.
After nandroid restore, free space jumped from ~20MB to ~150MB.
This is just great. I'm impressed by all the work which is beeing done for our phones.
Thanks everybody.
deyv said:
Thanks !
That worked but that was not the only problem.
The other one was between the chair and the keyboard.
As I did not want to burn a cd for a one time use, I decided that extracting and executing binaries from alpharev's iso would do it. And of course I was wrong. It was (silently!) failing because of probably many reasons, one of them was the use of /data directory which hardly exists in standard linux distributions.
I managed to make a bootable usb stick from the iso thanks to linux's unetbootin.
Then the s-off automagically succeeded. Flashing patched hboot did not succeed using the PB99IMG method (cid problem, probably unknown brand?). But the fastboot method made it.
After nandroid restore, free space jumped from ~20MB to ~150MB.
This is just great. I'm impressed by all the work which is beeing done for our phones.
Thanks everybody.
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Hey!
I have an HTC Desire, PVT4 (era size 40,000) and HBOOT 0.93. I've been wanting to S-OFF it to be able to use a custom ROM and have been using LINKSLOVESANDROID's 'noob-proof guide': http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016084
I am now at step 4, where I have to use Alpharev to S-OFF the HTC Desire. It has been rooted with Unrevoked, but also has ClockworkMod Recovery installed (version 2.5.7 I think), left over from an earlier failed attempt (when I realized I needed to S-OFF it first). I really want to be careful not to mess up my device, so I was wondering:
Will ClockworkMod Recovery (v2.5.7 ?) interfere with the Alpharev procedure, or even possibly brick the HTC Desire?
Thanks for reading and I hope you guys have an answer for me!
No, it won't. At least it did not interfere with mine and never heard of such brick.
Just so you're aware, CWM 2.5.0.7 will NOT work on erase size 40,000.
Once S-off I recommend you flash Amon_RA 2.0.1
You can also use later versions of CWM but personally I can't recommend them. I find them less stable than 2.5.0.7
No it won't conflict but I would suggest u to use the revolutionary tool for s-off it's almost one click business
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Hey.
I've got a question, my buddy got a Desire (GSM) wich I sold him long time ago.
I had Oxygene and Oxygene hboot on it, now its stock 2.2 Sense and unrooted, cause he is an IT illiterate.
Now he is complaining about lacking internal space, and I will help him root it, and install another Hboot, because that gave me around 300 mb. internal space, when I owned it.
My question is, he will be running rooted stock 2.2, and I will root it and install another HBoot on the phone, to get some more internal space, but wich one should i pick?
Bravo Stock 250M 40M 147M 7bd5234711364880de1fa982dcf3a2d6
Or
Bravo Sense 180M 40M 217M 47d034c8350e665dc20eafbd3a4900de
?
I think you should write down what is exactly shown in the bootloader first. You have to be SOFF before changing hboots.
As far as hboots are concerned only use the hboots from alpharev.nl. Totally depends upon the ROM you want to use. Best to go to the ROM thread and see what the dev recommends.
handy5876 said:
I think you should write down what is exactly shown in the bootloader first. You have to be SOFF before changing hboots.
As far as hboots are concerned only use the hboots from alpharev.nl. Totally depends upon the ROM you want to use. Best to go to the ROM thread and see what the dev recommends.
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Either you didn't read the whole topic, or you misunderstood it.
I will gain root and gain s-off, but I won't flash any Rom, I will let it run stock Sense 2.2, and those hboots are taken from the alpharev.nl site.
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How do you think to run stock (which mean factory) 2.2 on custom hboot? Do you know that it requires 250mb system partition to run?
Different thing is if you want custom 2.2 made from the official stock ruu, that could be found.
nlooooo said:
How do you think to run stock (which mean factory) 2.2 on custom hboot? Do you know that it requires 250mb system partition to run?
Different thing is if you want custom 2.2 made from the official stock ruu, that could be found.
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I did'nt know, I thought that was possible?
So you can only change hboot if your running a custom rom?
Yes, cause stock OS, or rom, requires 250mb system partition (it's somewhere around 242-243mb leaving 7-8mb of free space). If youre up to extension of memory, choose some custom rom that fits cm7r2 hboot image and flash both.
Ohh okay.
What is the most stable custom rom with sense?
Maybe some Sense 3.0
Here you go:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=809328
Just read, they are all more or less stable...
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