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ok, been asked to root someone elses phone?

i did mine about a year ago via the ancient gold card method but i assume there's easier ways to do it now?
could i just just straight to getting s-off add the clockwork mod recovery, backup, flash new hboot, install new rom?

Use a app called unrevoked on your pc, very easy to do, no need for s-off.
I have never seen the need to s-off my phone, I stick with stock H-Boot and custom stock ROMs.

Rooting
Hi guys, I'm about to try rooting my desire for the first time. The guides and tutorials on this forum are great but i was just wondering whether if i need to s-off as part of the root process in order to install customer ROMs such as Oxygen's gingerbread rom?
I'm going to use one of the noob guides to rooting here on the forums, one has got s-off as part of the process and the other hasnt. Can anyone advise which one is best to follow?

hiteshjivani said:
Hi guys, I'm about to try rooting my desire for the first time. The guides and tutorials on this forum are great but i was just wondering whether if i need to s-off as part of the root process in order to install customer ROMs such as Oxygen's gingerbread rom?
I'm going to use one of the noob guides to rooting here on the forums, one has got s-off as part of the process and the other hasnt. Can anyone advise which one is best to follow?
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hiteshjivani said:
Hi guys, I'm about to try rooting my desire for the first time. The guides and tutorials on this forum are great but i was just wondering whether if i need to s-off as part of the root process in order to install customer ROMs such as Oxygen's gingerbread rom?
I'm going to use one of the noob guides to rooting here on the forums, one has got s-off as part of the process and the other hasnt. Can anyone advise which one is best to follow?
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no you don't but if you s-off you can install custom hboots which give you more memory, but they are not necessary and you should do fine if you have an ext partition on your sd card. If you run out of memory you can install the zip to move dalvik cache to the sd card.
you can create a ext partition with rom manager just choose 512mb of ext and no swap

Installation
Perform a wipe of /data and /cache if coming from any other ROM
Download and install the ROM via recovery as you would any other ROM
You dont need s-off install on stock H-Boot

theyau said:
no you don't but if you s-off you can install custom hboots which give you more memory, but they are not necessary and you should do fine if you have an ext partition on your sd card. If you run out of memory you can install the zip to move dalvik cache to the sd card.
you can create a ext partition with rom manager just choose 512mb of ext and no swap
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Or better go and install a ROM with data2sd my insternal memory is 2GB

Use the Unrevoked method so easy even i did it first time right all you need is to install android usb drivers and hook the desire up to the PC and the unrevoked program does it for you. the instructions are on their web site. And as to s-off there is not much need for it unless you really want to flash a cm7 hboot or something but there are plenty of roms that dont need it.

usb drivers are all good to go. i use adb on my desire anyway
i'll do the unrevoked method then and s-off after backups. (going to install oxygen for him). he's fed up of his desires battery life

Root
I rooted my desire with unrevoked, a friends hero with one click, another desire with unrevoked, nexus one with gold card and a SE x8 with z4 i think or one click..
I ALWAYS told them i'll be doing it at their own risk!

tommo123 said:
usb drivers are all good to go. i use adb on my desire anyway
i'll do the unrevoked method then and s-off after backups. (going to install oxygen for him). he's fed up of his desires battery life
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Just make sure he knows the risks of rooting, warranty, etc, although nothing will go wrong. As for s-off, I've never really had a need to do it. Also if someone is asking you to root there phone for them do you really want them having full root with s-off. I don't know if I would give someone who doesn't know what they are doing full access to any and all system files. That's just me though because I know some people can be pretty technology stupid.

he just wants the kind of batt life i get with mine and need s-off to flash the cm7 hboot for the extra data space since otherwise would need to throw in an ext partition and if he ever swaps the sd card out ..........
he wouldn't know how to do anything regarding adb to screw things up.
i have mentioned 'at your risk' though.

shankly1985 said:
Installation
Perform a wipe of /data and /cache if coming from any other ROM
Download and install the ROM via recovery as you would any other ROM
You dont need s-off install on stock H-Boot
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But i think you have to renember that you can find two diffetent versions of ROM . Cm7 wich need s off and a2sd or a2sd+ wich works fine on stock hboot.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA Premium App

[Q] How to unroot and get stock Desire ROM?

Hi all,
I've got htc desire (bravo, GSM), but it comes with Cyanogenmod 7, alpharecovery and custom HBOOT (alpha or some like this). I would like to unroot my phone and have stock Htc Desire with stock ROM. I have been searching for any solutions on XDA forums for ages. I found this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6710092&postcount=4.
But I can't understand what i should do to get stock Desire.
Can somebody please help me? Thanks.
Sorry for my english.

Hello. First of all why do you want to unroot? The big part of peoples try to ROOT but are to afraid... You can flash a custom ROM that has only the stock ROM plus a few additions that will make your life easier. (ex.: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=916417).
Anyway if you want to UNROOT be sure to read the ALL of the bellow threads FROM THE BEGINNING TILL END and understand everything it is written there and after this proceed:
1) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016084
2) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=880268

stanomx said:
Hi all,
I've got htc desire (bravo, GSM), but it comes with Cyanogenmod 7, alpharecovery and custom HBOOT (alpha or some like this). I would like to unroot my phone and have stock Htc Desire with stock ROM. I have been searching for any solutions on XDA forums for ages. I found this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6710092&postcount=4.
But I can't understand what i should do to get stock Desire.
Can somebody please help me? Thanks.
Sorry for my english.
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Read the tuts posted above, but also remember to change the HBOOT back to stock, running a RRU will not work on the CM7 HBOOT. Alpharev has the stock HBOOT on there web site, the tuts above will tell you.how to change it
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA Premium App

Ok, i don't need to completly remove root. But I preferably want a stock ROM. And I prefer to update my recovery from this stupid cwm-alpharev(v2.5.1.8), in official last CM7 stable mod, there is application "ROM Manager" and there's an option Flash ClockworkMod Recovery (bla bla u must have CWM to use this app etc). Can I do it? Can I reflash old recovery (alpha rev.)? Newest is 3.X.X.X
PS:
HBOOT 0.93
I want stock ROM because i hate this ext partitioning and all about installing parts of ROM into external SD card. And than I had 1GB ext which I cannot use for apps, and 40mb of internal storage. I HATE IT.

stanomx said:
Ok, i don't need to completly remove root. But I preferably want a stock ROM. And I prefer to update my recovery from this stupid cwm-alpharev(v2.5.1.8), in official last CM7 stable mod, there is application "ROM Manager" and there's an option Flash ClockworkMod Recovery (bla bla u must have CWM to use this app etc). Can I do it? Can I reflash old recovery (alpha rev.)? Newest is 3.X.X.X
PS:
HBOOT 0.93
I want stock ROM because i hate this ext partitioning and all about installing parts of ROM into external SD card. And than I had 1GB ext which I cannot use for apps, and 40mb of internal storage. I HATE IT.
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Well on stock Rom, you get around 75 Mb for installing apps, which would be over with around 20 apps installed. If you're cool with that, install Teppic's stock rooted rom. You dont need to unroot just for using stock rom.

[Q] Help with best Rom for my gingerbread desire with lastest gingerbread ruu

Hi guys
I have a desire bravo that i updated to the new gingerbread ruu when it came out.
Sorry but i have a few questions. Im on holiday at the moment and im using my desire wifi hotspot to use the internet at the moment so i really dont want to mess it up.
1) I used the clockwork mod to S-off and install a custom recovery this morning.
I know that the S-Off worked and i manged to install the custom recovery as the superuser app has shown up in my menu and the hboot menu shows S-Off.
First thing i did was to do a back up that i have saved to my computer..
I then moved on to Root the rom and it showed as being complete
When i installed root check from the market i get some problems. The first is : Application superuser has stopped unexpectedly. I have to force close the app to continue. Root check then tells me that "Root Access is not properly configured or was not granted"
Anyone have any ideas about what i did wrong ???
2) if i cant root the rom should i just install a new custom rom. Does anyone know what is the best GB rom with a new sense (not bothered about what one) i should install. Not worried about App to sd yet as i thought if i start small with a stable rom then i can always change to a rom with app to sd built in at a later time once i get used to changing roms
Thanks for your help as i said i really dont want to brick the phone as i will lost internet access and will be stuck till i get home.
Thanks Guys
BTW big thanks to the clockwork guys for all there hard work

When your phone is s-off, you don't have to root it (or rather the os). So if the s-off process finishes (you cannot s-off with a recovery, so I assume you did it with revolutionary), just flash a rom with root access and you're done.
There is no "best rom". It depends on personal preferences. Just try.

yes i used the revolutionary way to s-off and install the recovery files and i have to say it works very very well very easy to understand
Thanks for the info about rooting the rom. I think i understand now
so can i install any rom now as i updated to the offical gingerbread ruu when it came out ?
If so can you recommend a good gingerbread rom with a newish sense on ?

rosscobley said:
yes i used the revolutionary way to s-off and install the recovery files and i have to say it works very very well very easy to understand
Thanks for the info about rooting the rom. I think i understand now
so can i install any rom now as i updated to the offical gingerbread ruu when it came out ?
If so can you recommend a good gingerbread rom with a newish sense on ?
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After you run the revolutionary process successful, flash a custom recovery with fastboot (how to use fastboot -> see my sig). I recommend 4ext or rmd. Now boot into recovery, make a full wipe and flash any rom you want (save important first). Just follow the given instructions in the corresponding thread.
For the sense rom: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=809328

thanks guys. I think im going to give the AceSMod007-Lite (Sense2.1+3.0 GB ) a go as a lot of people recommend it. 1 quick question.
Can i install this rom even though i installed the offical RUU Gingerbread update and s-off'ed using revolutionary??
Thanks Guys

sorry one more question.
I did a backup of my rom via recovery. If i dont like the new Rom can i just restore to my standard rom via retore in recovery mode?

Yes, you can. Just wipe everything and restore. If you cannot to this, a backup would be senseless, don't you think?
Swyped from Oxygen with Transparent XDA App

Thank you soooooooo much. I just flashed the rom and eveything is working perfect
my phone now shows that i have :
885 MB on Ext Partition
34.27 MB on /data
3.97 MB on /System
Does that sound right?

Looks fine.
Swyped from Oxygen with Transparent XDA App

Need some answer...please!

hi guys,
today i made the s-off on my desire and i've question:
first of all,how can i check if the procedure is gone well?
i was using the cyanogenmod 7 with stock hboot and a 1gb ext3 partition on my sd;i still need the partition now?
how can i install other hboot?
and how can i flash a rom for s-off desire?till now i flash rom from recovery,but now?
thank you very very much guys

renji said:
hi guys,
today i made the s-off on my desire and i've question:
first of all,how can i check if the procedure is gone well?
i was using the cyanogenmod 7 with stock hboot and a 1gb ext3 partition on my sd;i still need the partition now?
how can i install other hboot?
and how can i flash a rom for s-off desire?till now i flash rom from recovery,but now?
thank you very very much guys
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I cannot answer all your questions, but there is a tutorial in the development section, where you can read about most of these things. If you still have questions afterwards, ask then.
Sent from my HTC Runnymede using xda premium

For S-OFF, you should see at the top of hboot screen (Powering with volume button) "S-OFF".
1 GB sd-ext would be enough, i have lots of programs inside, taking just 340 mbs.
For other hboots, please read the first thread about "how to -- root, s-off, hboot etc."
You will use the same way, (recovery-install zip-choose zip..."
Enjoy CM

as quoted above hboot to check your s-off,if you are s-off you have more options available to you,but you can only flash stock hboot roms.if you wish to flash cm7 or cm7/r2 you must flash your hboot to change it...
would recommend ext4 recovery,with this you can partition your sd card,align it,and convert from ext to ext 4 etc.
fastboot comander for flashing your hboot,its more nOOb friendly
please follow all rom instructions to the letter,or you will end up with lagg and freeze issues,read up on the nOOb instructions
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016084

Hi guys,thank you very much for the usefull answears!
Just another question :the ext partition should be 3 or 4?does it depend by the Rom i wanna flash?

renji said:
Hi guys,thank you very much for the usefull answears!
Just another question :the ext partition should be 3 or 4?does it depend by the Rom i wanna flash?
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You need ext4 to most recent ROMs. 4ext recovery can convert partition formats without loss of data.
Sent from my HTC Runnymede using xda premium

Thx coempi

S-Off / Partition Ext SD Etc

Hey Guys,
Longtime no see.
Last Android I ran was a nook color that I flashed with gingerbread and that was a whole other kettle of fish.
I was donated a HTC Desire GSM and couldn't help myself and rooted it with unrevoked.
Then I updated the rom to Nikez Lentes ICS rom and I am very happy with it.
Now, I installed CWM and when it flashes it says that it is V5.0.2 but when I boot into recovery it is actually V2.5.0.
After a bit of reading I see that the author of the ROM and others and now using 4EXT Recovery so I bought that and went to give it a go but the S-ON is stopping it ( I booted into recovery and indeed it is S-ON currently ).
So reading up on how to turn ON to OFF I see unrevoked and alpharev have a solution for windows and linux only. ( I have VM windows and a raspberry pi linux ( but i assume the pi would be too underpowered to do this update))
I have read the wiki and read on the FAQ on this site that if you are not running the stock HTC rom that there could be an issue, is that correct ?
After all this, I am really just trying to make a Ext-SD partition on my SD card, cause the rom is like 120mb of the 140mb internal partition and I can't install enough apps to be happy.. lol.
I have the CWR image of V5.0.2 but am not sure really how to update it ( V2.5 is green text and V5.0 is blue so im sure I have the older version )
Or im happy to use 4EXT for my rom needs, but I need to change my S-ON to OFF to be able to flash the recovery and partition it that way.
If anyone can help that would be great, the whole setup has been rather painless and i'd like to keep it that way, I need the phone to work, but I would like to install more apps on the phone. The ROM also has a script built in so that is not the problem, just making a partition on the SD card really is what I need right now.
Thanks,
Steve

would it be because im currently S-OFF that I can't flash recovery above V2.5.0 or install 4EXT Recovery ?

Are you SON or SOFF ? Write down what your bootloader says.
1. Alpharev quote
Requirements:
The only requirement right now is that the ROM you're running is rooted.
As techniques such as 'data2ext' have been popping up, these might disturb our finely-tuned flashing process.
Please revert to a rooted stock ROM if possible. Your /data partition is used for temporary storage of important files.
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I dont know whether it will work with ICS though. I wouldnt try it since this is a bootloader mod. Maybe best to go stock rooted rom before running alpharev.
Revolutionary is the other option for getting soff.

I am S-ON,
I ran unrevoked to root my phone, I want to make it S-OFF now.
I am asking how I can do it with my ICS rom and I don't want any issues, but I want to be able to make a SD-EXT partition to run apps2sd.
Steve

steveb_123 said:
I am S-ON,
I ran unrevoked to root my phone, I want to make it S-OFF now.
I am asking how I can do it with my ICS rom and I don't want any issues, but I want to be able to make a SD-EXT partition to run apps2sd.
Steve
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Read my post. Best to go to a stock rooted rom before running alpharev. Thereafter flash 4ext. Partition your sdcard with 4ext. Flash rom of your choice.

Can I ask why it is better to go to a stock rooted rom ?
Installing the stock rom, and stock radio, to then run alpharev, to then root, to then install 4ext, sounds like a lot of work just to unlock the S-ON.

That is alpharev requirement. Read my first post.
Link for rooted stock romlink

Where does it say you need to run a stock rooted rom ?
http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/revolutionary
the stock rooted rom that is U (updated) seems to be pulled and this guy has a URL at the top saying he has pulled the rom due to internal XDA fights.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1151765

My suggestion is to run 2.3 ruu from htc dev and then use revolutionary, two flies in one hit, s-off and custom recovery, and then flashing su over recovery. Though you'll get cwm recovery after first boot you'll be able to flash 4ext.
Sent from my GT-P3100 using Flashes and Thunders

Thanks for that nloooo,
I downloaded, unrar'd and unzipped the folder and can see the 2.3 RUU exe there, so I just run that in a windows machine ?
then rev, then reflash you are suggesting ?
is it worth trying revolutionary without returning to stock RUU and if it doesn't work, then installing the 2.3 RUU ?

It alk depends on hboit version your phone has. If it is 0.93 or 1.02 than it should work no matter which rom you have. I'm suggesting 2.3 ruu cause you'll get 1.02 hboot and you're good to go.
Sent from my GT-P3100 using Flashes and Thunders

My hboot is 0.93.
If 0.93 + revolutionary could work, I would prefer to do it that way because I am very green playing with android (mostly just use non-jailbroken apple gear) But I am loving the desire + ICS.
Thank you handy and nlooo for replying.

NLoooo should I be ok to try revolutionary without returning to stock rooted rom ?

steveb_123 said:
NLoooo should I be ok to try revolutionary without returning to stock rooted rom ?
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You can always try, if it doesn't work you won't have any problems phone will work the same.
Sent from my HTC Desire using Flashes and Thunders

Thanks nlooo, you've been a huge help