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Audio quality on Tmobile SG2

I have been considering upgrading from vibrant to GS2, but since I so much enjoy my music on voodoo sound plus powerAmp setup in Vibrant, will it be a let down on GS2 because of inferior DAC? Those who switched from original galaxy s please comment.

rakeshchn said:
I have been considering upgrading from vibrant to GS2, but since I so much enjoy my music on voodoo sound plus powerAmp setup in Vibrant, will it be a let down on GS2 because of inferior DAC? Those who switched from original galaxy s please comment.
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Stock music app has an option for 5.1 surround sound which is very good. also i believe the sound card is yamaha brand.
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rakeshchn said:
I have been considering upgrading from vibrant to GS2, but since I so much enjoy my music on voodoo sound plus powerAmp setup in Vibrant, will it be a let down on GS2 because of inferior DAC? Those who switched from original galaxy s please comment.
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simple....are you an audiophile? I mean a true one. If the answer is yes, then you'll likely be let down because the Yamaha chip isn't as good as the Wolfson according to Supercurio. If the answer is no, then you'll likely not notice the difference

When I had my vibrant, my flac albums sounded absolutely luscious, and I don't get quite the same impression with the sgs2, even before I found out about the yamaha dac. However I left my vibrant like a year ago so this is hardly valid.. I think may have had supercurios sound fix on it too.
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Thanks for the replies. I won't call myself an audiophile, but once i had voodoo on, the sound from Poweramp with equalizer tweaked to my liking is very pleasing. I hope SG2 can provide at least 80% of the fidelity.
One more question. Any issues with A2DP streaming to Bluetooth headphones? Vibrant has lower quality over A2DP in spite of having BT 3.0

rakeshchn said:
Thanks for the replies. I won't call myself an audiophile, but once i had voodoo on, the sound from Poweramp with equalizer tweaked to my liking is very pleasing. I hope SG2 can provide at least 80% of the fidelity.
One more question. Any issues with A2DP streaming to Bluetooth headphones? Vibrant has lower quality over A2DP in spite of having BT 3.0
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Dont know about A2DP... but the best bet to answer your question is Supercurio. Hit him up on twitter he'll likely reply. Also if its straight up streaming to bluetooth head phones it completely bypasses the DAC see the following tweet
http://twitter.com/#!/supercurio/status/169484560827027456
Also.. Supercurio isn't able to pull off anything like voodoo sound on the yamaha DAC.. He did do something for the international/at&t version called Voodoo Louder which i believe only boost the output volume of the headphone jack. I don't know if its coming to our SGS2, but I would say its not likely

rakeshchn said:
I have been considering upgrading from vibrant to GS2, but since I so much enjoy my music on voodoo sound plus powerAmp setup in Vibrant, will it be a let down on GS2 because of inferior DAC? Those who switched from original galaxy s please comment.
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Try this ... its not voodoo but it really helps ..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1434834
poweramp sounds really good on the sgs 2 and with the latest update it just got better ...

Yeah its just as good. I like it alot
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[Q] Bad audio latency?

I've got a Galaxy S3 (hence why I'm in this part of the forums, heh)... I've tried CM11, LiquidSmooth, and now SlimBean... and I seem to have atrocious audio latency on all three (128ms according to Caustic 2). Since all three ROMs have exhibited the exact same audio latency, is there perhaps something else I need, like an OTA firmware update or the like, to fix the audio latency, or is JB on the SGS3 just this terrible with audio latency?
One of my friends is part of a small studio and gave me a copy of his game to try out, but it's a rhythm game... which as you can imagine is unplayable with 128ms audio latency

audio latency.
Doktor Jones said:
I've got a Galaxy S3 (hence why I'm in this part of the forums, heh)... I've tried CM11, LiquidSmooth, and now SlimBean... and I seem to have atrocious audio latency on all three (128ms according to Caustic 2). Since all three ROMs have exhibited the exact same audio latency, is there perhaps something else I need, like an OTA firmware update or the like, to fix the audio latency, or is JB on the SGS3 just this terrible with audio latency?
One of my friends is part of a small studio and gave me a copy of his game to try out, but it's a rhythm game... which as you can imagine is unplayable with 128ms audio latency
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Rather odd.. I have never experienced this myself on CM10 or TW or liquid smooth. I have had some problems with audio glitches in liquidsmooth, but found it was related to the ringtone and notification volume levels being linked. Have you tried installing anything like ac!d audio on any of the ROMs you have used or just used stock audio from the ROM?

Doktor Jones said:
I've got a Galaxy S3 (hence why I'm in this part of the forums, heh)... I've tried CM11, LiquidSmooth, and now SlimBean... and I seem to have atrocious audio latency on all three (128ms according to Caustic 2). Since all three ROMs have exhibited the exact same audio latency, is there perhaps something else I need, like an OTA firmware update or the like, to fix the audio latency, or is JB on the SGS3 just this terrible with audio latency?
One of my friends is part of a small studio and gave me a copy of his game to try out, but it's a rhythm game... which as you can imagine is unplayable with 128ms audio latency
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I could be mistaken, but I think audio latency is an issue concerning not your phone, but Android itself. See here: https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=3434
And just by doing a little research, it seems this company has fixed that and is looking to license the fix to device manufacturers: http://www.sonomawireworks.com/pr/android-low-latency-audio-solution.php
But honestly, I want Google to fix this. Or at least incorporate the fix themselves. The pitiful audio latency on every device I've had just makes me sad, especially as someone who has to use an iPhone 3G to use old versions of audio software that play faster, look nicer, and generally kick more ass than any audio apps on Android. Kinda makes my S3 look like a Kinda Smartphone compared to the almighty iPhone. Don't get me wrong, I love my device and the OS, but even casual phone users love to mess around with a free keyboard app, and bad latency will just send them away.

unfortunately ac!d didn't seem to affect the latency any... I really wish Google would fix it, or SOMEBODY...

getinnocuous said:
I could be mistaken, but I think audio latency is an issue concerning not your phone, but Android itself. See here: https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=3434
And just by doing a little research, it seems this company has fixed that and is looking to license the fix to device manufacturers: http://www.sonomawireworks.com/pr/android-low-latency-audio-solution.php
But honestly, I want Google to fix this. Or at least incorporate the fix themselves. The pitiful audio latency on every device I've had just makes me sad, especially as someone who has to use an iPhone 3G to use old versions of audio software that play faster, look nicer, and generally kick more ass than any audio apps on Android. Kinda makes my S3 look like a Kinda Smartphone compared to the almighty iPhone. Don't get me wrong, I love my device and the OS, but even casual phone users love to mess around with a free keyboard app, and bad latency will just send them away.
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Very interesting.. I have not ran across this issue, but then again, I have not played a game most likely where i could definitely tell. As for the latency solution that Getinnocuous has written about. Have you tried that company's solution? And if you have, did it affect what you heard? Makes me want to check it out myself. The music on my phone sounded fine with Ac!d audio and Jet Audio player, but maybe it could be improved. I have heard the Iphone was superior in many audio facets. Do you hear this on phone calls as well?

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Very interesting.. I have not ran across this issue, but then again, I have not played a game most likely where i could definitely tell. As for the latency solution that Getinnocuous has written about. Have you tried that company's solution? And if you have, did it affect what you heard? Makes me want to check it out myself. The music on my phone sounded fine with Ac!d audio and Jet Audio player, but maybe it could be improved. I have heard the Iphone was superior in many audio facets. Do you hear this on phone calls as well?
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The problem is, they're apparently only licensing the technology out to developers; they have no end product that I can buy to try out

Doktor Jones said:
The problem is, they're apparently only licensing the technology out to developers; they have no end product that I can buy to try out
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Yeah, I read this.. at first I was very hopeful when I read that link about a company looking to do that.. but the licensing could take awhile for there to be an app or something a user can install that can do this vs buying a new phone or device that has this built in... Very frustrating. Hopefully it becomes implemented in a user friendly way / update soon.

[Q] How to have the best audio experience? Suggestions please..apps, tweaks

I need suggestions for the best audio experience on the Nexus 7. Apps, tweaks..

Quality headphones will do much more for you than some random arbitrary tweak or app
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Download poweramp from the play store. My advice is go blow 100+ on some nice bose headphones. Bose also makes a amazing portable speaker that will make your n7 tunes shine.
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If viper audio works on the N7 (I currently only use it on my S4) then that will do wonders for you.
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+1 on viper audio. flash and use some nice IRQ .

ViPER4Android is working great for me but unfortunately only with stock Google music player. The effects are very nice but maximum volume is still very lacking even with +6.0dB Gain compared to my iPhone 4 which has far better audio quality and way higher volume.

Faux Sound, perhaps, if you are rooted, with a rom that supports it.

Beats+xlouder! 4.4
I currently use Misledz BEATS+XLOUDER! 4.4 and a pair of beats Mixr's and the sound is amazing! I have tried Viper and it was also very good I just am a long time BEATS+XLOUDER! 4.4 user. I picked up my beats for $50 on ebay and while a lot of people don't care for them the mixr's are amazing. You can also pick up a pair of Audio Technica ath-M-50's used on ebay for the same price or about a $100 brand new great headphones. Read some reviews you won't be disappointed.

ty949 said:
I currently use Misledz BEATS+XLOUDER! 4.4
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With 4.4.2??

naturecannon said:
With 4.4.2??
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No still on 4.4 I didn't see anything significant in 4.4.1 or 4.4.2 to upgrade not to mention the fact that half my apps didn't work with the updates. I usually wait a little while to let everyone catch up. You are right though I should have mentioned it only works on 4.4. Does Viper work on 4.4.2? Best thing to do is try all of them out there is also Cyanogenmod DSP manager. Just know anything you try on XDA is a step up and the hard work of individuals and teams who make our devices great.

[Q] Sound volume of HTC One M9

Hi everybody, i will soon buy HTC One M9 so i am interested in one thing:
How loud speakers are on the M9?
Because loudness is very important to me because me and my team like to listen alot of music while out.
Are they louder than my friends Galaxy S3? i know they are more quality but i want them to be alot of louder than Galaxy s3 becasue he always tells he has loudest speaker of all of us, so i want to blow him away

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Hi everybody, i will soon buy HTC One M9 so i am interested in one thing:
How loud speakers are on the M9?
Because loudness is very important to me because me and my team like to listen alot of music while out.
Are they louder than my friends Galaxy S3? i know they are more quality but i want them to be alot of louder than Galaxy s3 becasue he always tells he has loudest speaker of all of us, so i want to blow him away
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M9 seems to have the loudest speakers on commerce, and not only loud. Check video comparison on internet. (Definitely more powerful than your s3).

Fycola123 said:
Hi everybody, i will soon buy HTC One M9 so i am interested in one thing:
How loud speakers are on the M9?
Because loudness is very important to me because me and my team like to listen alot of music while out.
Are they louder than my friends Galaxy S3? i know they are more quality but i want them to be alot of louder than Galaxy s3 becasue he always tells he has loudest speaker of all of us, so i want to blow him away
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I have both and m9 is louder! viperone rom even has a loudness booster which with headphones on is twice as loud as stock rom.... I love it

Plus one, viper here too, and the speakers are so loud that I have gotten afraid of max volume when I listen to music...

Fycola123 said:
Because loudness is very important to me
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If your phone is rooted
Go to play store and search for viper4android. In the playstore the app will have a ton of Chinese in it. But when you download it, it is in English. This will make your phone a whole lot louder and it will sound cleaner!
Sent from my HTC One M9 using XDA Free mobile app

I find the quality and loudness of the M9 speaker is far superior to ANY of the Galaxy S series. My mate has the s6 and i had the s4 and my sister has the s5, and it's much better. Louder, better sound quality. It's great, and having it at high volumes doesnt make you feel like the speaker is going to rattle itself to death either.

What about ringtones? they do not seem as loud as all the other phones owned by my co-workers. We always have to listen for our phones since we are on call and when their phones ring they seem much louder than my M9.

I'm gonna be the "odd man out" here.
I've had the M7, M8 and now the M9.... I think the M9 has the best sound, but the quietest of the 3. My step son's iPhone 5s is louder, but sounds really bad.
To me, everything needs to come up a few db.... But then I think you'd lose the sound quality.
Just my $.02 wroth.

tele_jas said:
I'm gonna be the "odd man out" here.
I've had the M7, M8 and now the M9.... I think the M9 has the best sound, but the quietest of the 3. My step son's iPhone 5s is louder, but sounds really bad.
To me, everything needs to come up a few db.... But then I think you'd lose the sound quality.
Just my $.02 wroth.
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I am a new fan of this app... If you are rooted this can bring you quite a few db and you can improve sound quality in the advanced features.. I've never had a cell phone that could sound better than my mp3 player until I learned of this app. The developer should charge for it. IMO it's that good. Let me know what you think and don't worry it is in English.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.vipercn.viper4android_v2_fx&hl=en
Edit-- The best improvements are in headphones and bluetooth. But does bring up the ext speakers quite a bit.
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LibertyMonger said:
What about ringtones? they do not seem as loud as all the other phones owned by my co-workers. We always have to listen for our phones since we are on call and when their phones ring they seem much louder than my M9.
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I have a hard time hearing ringtones too.. Honestly I go to zedge and find the most loud ringtones I can find and that helps. If it's something like being on call I'd look for a loud alarm tone and set that ringtone for my work number. I did that at a baseball game and I could hear it... barely but I heard it as where the stock tones I couldn't hear anything.

bigp951 said:
I am a new fan of this app... If you are rooted this can bring you quite a few db and you can improve sound quality in the advanced features.. I've never had a cell phone that could sound better than my mp3 player until I learned of this app. The developer should charge for it. IMO it's that good. Let me know what you think and don't worry it is in English.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.vipercn.viper4android_v2_fx&hl=en
Edit-- The best improvements are in headphones and bluetooth. But does bring up the ext speakers quite a bit.
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I have a hard time hearing ringtones too.. Honestly I go to zedge and find the most loud ringtones I can find and that helps. If it's something like being on call I'd look for a loud alarm tone and set that ringtone for my work number. I did that at a baseball game and I could hear it... barely but I heard it as where the stock tones I couldn't hear anything.
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On a side note, but still related: I have V4A installed on my current ROM, but it doesn't work for some reason? I've used it on previous phones and know how to get it working, but for some reason it's just not working with my current ROM (Eragon 8.6). I've updated and tried all 3 "driver" installations... I reboot it and check the driver status and it shows it's not working and I hear no difference with any changes I make.

You can use on PC a free program call Audacity to boost the loudness of ringtones. Just load it, use the boost/amplify feature (I forget what it is called), and then export as a new file. You will have to download an additional file called lamemp3 and direct the program to it in order to save as a mp3. This works really well. You can also load a full song and trim out the portion of the song you want as a ringtone.

tele_jas said:
On a side note, but still related: I have V4A installed on my current ROM, but it doesn't work for some reason? I've used it on previous phones and know how to get it working, but for some reason it's just not working with my current ROM (Eragon 8.6). I've updated and tried all 3 "driver" installations... I reboot it and check the driver status and it shows it's not working and I hear no difference with any changes I make.
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I haven't had any issues with it. I'm using ViperOne 3.0 on the 2.8 firmware
But I ran across this the other day that might help.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/one-m9/help/viper4android-t3068278
I am using this version of it
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.vipercn.viper4android_v2_fx&hl=en
Hope it works for you

Sound quality / chip

Hey guys,
maybe some of u can help me.
Im interested in the sound/audio/music quality of the OP3 in compination with headphones.
I know the quality of a Samsung S2 and S4 (both not with Wolfson chip) and i know the S3 and S5 have a variety with a Wolfson chip (never heared them).
Many people say they can hear a different between them.
Maybe some of you know the difference between them and the OP3? Or can compare?
I think about buying a OP3 and i'm really interested in the sound quality with headphones.
Thanks for any answeres and sry for my english

My OnePlus 3 arrived today and I think the quality with headphones is good. Can't hear any difference between my old Nexus 5 and the OP3 both sound good

I doing the return process for that reason, tottally disapointed with the audio quality using headphones

nexus 5 has terrible speaker

knince said:
nexus 5 has terrible speaker
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They are talking about quality of audio on headphones not the speaker.
Shamu by TT

ralph78 said:
They are talking about quality of audio on headphones not the speaker.
Shamu by TT
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got it lol

ichlernungern said:
Hey guys,
maybe some of u can help me.
Im interested in the sound/audio/music quality of the OP3 in compination with headphones.
I know the quality of a Samsung S2 and S4 (both not with Wolfson chip) and i know the S3 and S5 have a variety with a Wolfson chip (never heared them).
Many people say they can hear a different between them.
Maybe some of you know the difference between them and the OP3? Or can compare?
I think about buying a OP3 and i'm really interested in the sound quality with headphones.
Thanks for any answeres and sry for my english
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I believe the audio solution is the same as for all SD820 processors. Built-in 24bit 96khz support. Nothing out of the ordinary and not high-end but good enough for Spotify Premium and stored Flacs etc.
For Premium Audio you are better off adding an outboard DAC such as from Audioquest (Dragonfly) or Meridian Explorer. Built-in ad-hoc sound processors are almost always a compromise.
A few manufacturer, LG and HTC spring to mind, have better, separate built in DAC's and amplifiers which may suit you better if you don't want to shell out for separate ones.
Having said all this, I use an S7Edge (Exynos version) which, like the Snapdragon uses propriatory decoding and I am happy with it for music on the move. (I also use a full Cyrus home system and Grado Headphones for indoor listening to give some perspective).

The headphone quality w/ Bose QC25 is good and a LOT better than the 6P (stock) in my opinion. It still doesn't beat the iPhone 6s+ in loudness and overall sound quality using Spotify or Apple Music. For most people it's good enough and for others Viper should help a ton but for audiophiles and stock out of the box, it's not going to cut it.

latech4832 said:
I doing the return process for that reason, tottally disapointed with the audio quality using headphones
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How? at amazon? bcoz they don't support return for mobile phones in India

I'm coming from iPhone 6s and the only thing that I don't like at this device is the sound quality,external and headphones both.
Hope we can fix it a bit with viper

micr0g said:
I'm coming from iPhone 6s and the only thing that I don't like at this device is the sound quality,external and headphones both.
Hope we can fix it a bit with viper
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My dad has a 6S Plus and every android device (flagships only) I used had much much better quality with V4A installed. Not sure about OP3 though. Yet to test properly.

micr0g said:
I'm coming from iPhone 6s and the only thing that I don't like at this device is the sound quality,external and headphones both.
Hope we can fix it a bit with viper
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I read that in order to install Viper one has to:
"Setup your Device
For Samsung devices,
1. Try install V4A as user app instead of system app if the latter failed doesn’t work.
2. Use Normal Mode and select V4A FX in Settings>Sound>Music Effects.
3. If don’t work, use another player rather than Samsung stock Music player.
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1. ROOT your device.
2. Install busybox if doesn’t come with root.
3. Modify build.prop (Thanks [email protected])
a. Open up /system/build.prop in text editor using any file explorer with root access.
b. Change the line (If you can’t find these lines, skip this step.)
– “Ipa.decode=true” to “lpa.decode=false”
– “tunnel.decode=true” to “tunnel.decode=false”
– “lpa.use-stagefright=true” to “lpa.use-stagefright=false”"
do you know of any other good app to improve the audio quality of the op3 not needing to the root trick?
I find op3 audio rather flat.
Thanks

Could somebody please check if the google play music app offers you the equalizer option in its settings menu? My LG G4 does not and it is one of the (many) things I hate about it

I'm getting really good and rich sound when I use my Sony headphones and when I hook it up to my car stereo it has better sound than my iPhone really impressed with the sound...
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vdundgren said:
do you know of any other good app to improve the audio quality of the op3 not needing to the root trick?
I find op3 audio rather flat.
Thanks
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Viper is by far ur best bet. Using it myself and it improved the sound a lot. Everything else would just be an equalizer since ab adequate driver can't be installed without root.

gusano38 said:
Could somebody please check if the google play music app offers you the equalizer option in its settings menu? My LG G4 does not and it is one of the (many) things I hate about it
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it does indeed! Only way right now I can stand the poor audio quality... Hopefully V4A will work soon on OP3...

I bet some here confuse "audio quality" with "loud" or/and "much bass *LOL*
The audio quality on this device (headphone jack) IS very good, period.
If you want louder signal (and ruin your ears) or more bass (for your lame nts-nts-nts music), install V4A or something like that...
Pocketnow's measurements:
http://pocketnow.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/OnePlus-3-Audio-Stats.jpg

hasenbein1966 said:
I bet some here confuse "audio quality" with "loud" or/and "much bass *LOL*
The audio quality on this device (headphone jack) IS very good, period.
If you want louder signal (and ruin your ears) or more bass (for your lame nts-nts-nts music), install V4A or something like that...
Pocketnow's measurements:
http://pocketnow.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/OnePlus-3-Audio-Stats.jpg
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Agree, limitations are hardware based and no player will improve that. For audiophiles ... use an outboard dac/headphone amplifier.