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Beats audio for any Gingerbread rom

Has anyone given this a shot on our devices?
I am going to try but just haven't had the chance yet
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525226

Go for it and feel the difference.
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Wow, from the screenshots that looks quite terrible. It looks like it colors the sound way too much and just adds noise and volume to the lower 60hz of the spectrum through artificial means. I guess that means I will stay away from this like the plague.
....why must all my hobbies be so expensive!?! (read: audio, Phone ROMing, computers, MTB )
*cries*

No sure.
From a galaxy better than yours.

Just flashed this and I gotta say WOW oh WOW. It freaking sounds awesome. Makes my Skull Candy 50/50 headphones sound even better! Thanks a million!
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To late...already pulled beast audio from sensation to my latest ROM

Does anyone have any idea what this does? The "What is Beats Audio" explains absolutely nothing.
Raistline said:
....why must all my hobbies be so expensive!?! (read: audio, Phone ROMing, computers, MTB )
*cries*
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I hear you -- I am looking to replace my Grados soon and possibly get a headphone amplifier.. :\

I just flashed this, and was skeptic, but must say, you can definitely tell the difference. Sound quality is amazing, and I'm using the stock Samsung earbuds that came with my phone.

OriginalMemnock said:
I just flashed this, and was skeptic, but must say, you can definitely tell the difference. Sound quality is amazing, and I'm using the stock Samsung earbuds that came with my phone.
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Exactly. I'll have to dig out my better headphones now.
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Well use power amp or player pro and the app volume+. Get some quality headphones and not have to flash anything?

Just flashed it, looking forward to hearing it

Let us now if it makes a noticable difference
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Master&Slave™ said:
To late...already pulled beast audio from sensation to my latest ROM
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So you already have this incorporated in Paradox II? No need to flash it since I already have it?

supercurio is saying this is beats audio port is bs on twitter.

well this beats audio went to ***t today. Apparently the wrong dev was getting credit. Here the actual dev
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525226

funeralthirst said:
supercurio is saying this is beats audio port is bs on twitter.
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He also said that about the bravia engine. I am still trying to figure out why people still believe it works.
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Killbynature said:
He also said that about the bravia engine. I am still trying to figure out why people still believe it works.
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Bravia I knew was stupid. I would've thought the decent Samsung sound quality would deter people from using Beats since it's essentially an equalizer that sounds too artificial for me.
There was too much blind emphasis of Beats over on any HTC dual core devices and I hope most of the devs stay away from this.
Plus this:
supercurio said:
Audio is something special.
When you say there is an improvement, people tend to listen closer and perceive something different even if it doesn't exist.
That's called placebo.
All I'm asking is intellectual honesty in order to not abuse of this many times proven fact.
I also think placebo-mods are affecting negatively everyone's work and also the confidence XDA users have in developers.
The solution is simple: It improves audio? That can be measured then!
If you can't measure it, it means it does nothing.
Me, I measured, Galaxy S II. found it wasn't working. It's not an opinion or a critic. It's a fact.
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I'm pretty sure supercurio knows what the heck he's talking about, considering he's the mastermind behind voodoo sound project...

Terrible
Just flashed. Terrible Performance. Sounds Awful. TO ME. JUST MY OPINION.
I like music, and the extra bass with the boosted mid-range is awful, you can't hear some of the good parts of songs at all.
Re-flashing my ROM now, good thing I did an nandroid.
Denon AH-D5000.

dakluck said:
Just flashed. Terrible Performance. Sounds Awful. TO ME. JUST MY OPINION.
I like music, and the extra bass with the boosted mid-range is awful, you can't hear some of the good parts of songs at all.
Re-flashing my ROM now, good thing I did an nandroid.
Denon AH-D5000.
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Exactly. Those who have good cans or IEMs will notice that Beats sound awful.

chlehqls said:
Exactly. Those who have good cans or IEMs will notice that Beats sound awful.
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Dunno why people think beats is anything.........they make horrible headphones and even worse software. It's a gimmick for the most part. The hardware inside our phones for audio is made by Yamaha and they know whats up with sound. Get some better cans & poweramp to unlock the real audio power of our device.

Terrible Audio Playback

Have any of you experienced terrible audio quality (Tinny sound-sorta like the treble is too high) and a very slight hiss when listening to music on the headphones? Ordered 2 phones from AT and T and both of them have the same issue. I am still debating whether this is an issue or is just the way the phone is.
I had a Tmobile G2 previously and the audio quality when listening to Pandora and other internet radio apps was simply awesome. This is especially disturbing to me as I am absolutely thrilled with the phone in other aspects. Based on your responses I will decide if I want to return the phone to get a replacement or simply get the HTC One X.
FYI I have the AT and T Samsung Galaxy S3 with stock ROM from AT and T.

alfredo123 said:
Have any of you experienced terrible audio quality (Tinny sound-sorta like the treble is too high) and a very slight hiss when listening to music on the headphones? Ordered 2 phones from AT and T and both of them have the same issue. I am still debating whether this is an issue or is just the way the phone is.
I had a Tmobile G2 previously and the audio quality when listening to Pandora and other internet radio apps was simply awesome. This is especially disturbing to me as I am absolutely thrilled with the phone in other aspects. Based on your responses I will decide if I want to return the phone to get a replacement or simply get the HTC One X.
FYI I have the AT and T Samsung Galaxy S3 with stock ROM from AT and T.
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I have found that equalizers are very helpful. Try a few from the Play Store.

GbergNYC said:
I have found that equalizers are very helpful. Try a few from the Play Store.
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Thanks Gberg. I tried the equalizer app, didnt do too much to alleviate the issue. I will be trying a friends phone to see if it has the same issue to decide.

I checked a friends S3 and found pretty much the same results. It is very much possible the audio playback sound quality is not as good as some of the other phones.
Will be trying a more expensive headset.
Also, Can anyone let me know if rooting the phone and installing a custom rom would make any difference to the sound quality?

alfredo123 said:
I checked a friends S3 and found pretty much the same results. It is very much possible the audio playback sound quality is not as good as some of the other phones.
Will be trying a more expensive headset.
Also, Can anyone let me know if rooting the phone and installing a custom rom would make any difference to the sound quality?
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Yes...other roms can help/hurt audio as they replace/tweak audio libraries. Cyanogen Mod includes a DSP app. Another thing i have done that helps a lot is to install awesome beats. check the apps and themes forum for installation instructions...of course you must have root.
Hope this helps. Oh BTW..i'm using the Bose MIE2's. While i'm not a huge Bose fan generally....I have found them to be quite satisfactory with equalization.

Try equalizing with DSPManager I know it comes with Gapps on jelly bean it features bass boost and like I said before equalizer that may help or it could just be the device/defected.

Voodoo for Note 2?

What audio chip note 2 has? Will it support voodoo sound like other Galaxies?

lexus232 said:
What audio chip note 2 has? Will it support voodoo sound like other Galaxies?
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Wolfson, the same that S1 and S3 for example..
its confirmed

still no voodoo.from supercurio for the s3 like he promised.
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xiskillo said:
Wolfson, the same that S1 and S3 for example..
its confirmed
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No, its not the same of S1, its not that good, but better than the note 1

kersh said:
its not the same of S1, its not that good
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How pity, I Iove my SGS1 for its sound capabilities.

lexus232 said:
How pity, I Iove my SGS1 for its sound capabilities.
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Don't worry. As far as implemented functionality from Samsung and Android, they should be similar and infact I believe the loudspeaker amplifier seems more powerful in the new chipset (I am inferring through SGS3 specs as I believe its the same for Note 2). More importantly, it should be WAY superior to SGS2 and Note 1 as I find them absolutely useless with my powered headphones.

kersh said:
No, its not the same of S1, its not that good, but better than the note 1
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Source?
EDIT:
Wolfson Micro WM1811 http://www.wolfsonmicro.com/products/audio_hubs/WM1811/
100dB SNR Class W Heapdhone amp output, ReTune DSP, 3x digital interface.
Like WM8994 in Galaxy S / Nexus S, except:
1x stereo DAC instead of 2x.
2x 2W Speaker amp instead of 2x 1W
Smaller and probably cheaper, same sound quality expected.

xiskillo said:
Source?
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Wolfson Micro WM1811 http://www.wolfsonmicro.com/products/audio_hubs/WM1811/
100dB SNR Class W Heapdhone amp output, ReTune DSP, 3x digital interface.
Like WM8994 in Galaxy S / Nexus S, except:
1x stereo DAC instead of 2x.
2x 2W Speaker amp instead of 2x 1W
Smaller and probably cheaper, same sound quality expected.
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Yup, thats what I meant. Thanks for getting the numbers. Unfortunately the stereo speaker output may not help as I believe Note 2 may have a mono speaker like the rest, pity!

Supercurio - Eagerly awaiting an update on this. Hope its coming soon as you tweeted.

People do overestimate the difference in sound quality between the sgs and other phones.
Yes, the chip in the sgs really shines with voodoo sound's amazing mechanics, but this isn't something you'll hear or can take advantage of with stock earbuds, dre or skullcandy headsets. You need at least an entry level hi fi setup or a decent set of headphones. Until you get to that point, you might as well just be using an eq.
I'm not trying to be condescending, but I think many people use a turbo and stuff it into their vw beetle and expect to go 300 kmh
Just ordered a note 2, and will be looking forward to test it beside my sgs!
Sent from horseback.

I have an sgs as well as the note2 now....
I own sony extra bass earphones they sound really awesome in the samsung galaxy S , just a little less in the Note2 but all the difference I see is of the bass ..the galaxy s pumps those beats quite well unlike the note2
And just fyi just throw the stock samsung earphones in the dustbin..they are worst like made in china nit china is to blame but its cheapass ! ( Sony made in Philippines)
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adytum said:
People do overestimate the difference in sound quality between the sgs and other phones.
Yes, the chip in the sgs really shines with voodoo sound's amazing mechanics, but this isn't something you'll hear or can take advantage of with stock earbuds, dre or skullcandy headsets. You need at least an entry level hi fi setup or a decent set of headphones. Until you get to that point, you might as well just be using an eq.
I'm not trying to be condescending, but I think many people use a turbo and stuff it into their vw beetle and expect to go 300 kmh
Just ordered a note 2, and will be looking forward to test it beside my sgs!
Sent from horseback.
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The chip in the SGS really did shine with a bit of Voodoo:
Youtube: watch?v=-c5XOTP77qs
It's really rare for a smartphone to be able to record in extreme environments like that. The Nokia Lumia 920 is another phone with similar capabilities, here's a comparison of that one with the HTC 8x at the same event:
Youtube: watch?v=svM5g_9539Y
Phones in general get the result of the HTC, including the SGS without the Voodoo fix. I Haven't really tried the new gen Samsung's in a location like this, but I know that the SGS3 sounds basically like the HTC above, because the microphone doesn't enable recording for loud environments in the software.
Sure, recording in loud environments isn't something you normally do, but, it's still nice to have the ability to do it.
Sorry for the "broken" youtube links, apparently I'm not old enough to post links...

So we now technically have voodoo for the note2 right? Since scoobydoo is basically voodoo?
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ars_92 said:
So we now technically have voodoo for the note2 right? Since scoobydoo is basically voodoo?
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For international users only from what I see. Which is disappointing.

Check out Pongsters latest red pill kernel. )
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1975938
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Awesome! Now we finally have voodoo like sound on our Note 2.
Couple of things missing in Siyah's implementation:
1. No volume slider hack so to keep digital volume max and tweaking analog one needs to be done through Stweaks app and the change happens after we change and hit "Apply" against realtime hack in voodoo sound app. This means, dynamic range is low in lower volume and noise floor high. Also means we wont get extended volume levels (0-63) instead of only 15 levels in default digital volume slider
2. No video recording DRC hack as in voodoo sound app (haven't tested, may be hidden but atleast no tweaking of DRC possible)
I prefer using voodoo sound app which is not yet detecting these kernels to be compatible with it to enjoy the above features.
Also I prefer the below kernel for this for CPU and GPU overclocking options in Stweaks app:
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1927852
Hope Supercurio adds support for these kernels atleast in his paid app.

so.......
I'm a n00b with all this, so can someone boil it down to a yes/no: Voodoo for Note 2? Sound quality on par with Galaxy 1?
I have Westones, not the usual earbuds, and the S1 is literally the best FLAC player I've ever owned. It's certainly a bit long in the tooth at this point, however, so I'm interested in upgrading but not willing to give up the Wolfson + Voodoo. I'm in the states, but I've got no problem buying an unlocked model from elsewhere if necessary.
Edit: Forgot to mention I'm tied to USCC (job pays for phone), not sure if that matters

caustic386 said:
I'm a n00b with all this, so can someone boil it down to a yes/no: Voodoo for Note 2? Sound quality on par with Galaxy 1?
I have Westones, not the usual earbuds, and the S1 is literally the best FLAC player I've ever owned. It's certainly a bit long in the tooth at this point, however, so I'm interested in upgrading but not willing to give up the Wolfson + Voodoo. I'm in the states, but I've got no problem buying an unlocked model from elsewhere if necessary.
Edit: Forgot to mention I'm tied to USCC (job pays for phone), not sure if that matters
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yes its the same ( but not totally ) with kernel like red pill and Perseus
but i don't think voodoo sound will come any time soon from supercurio

yahyoh said:
yes its the same ( but not totally ) with kernel like red pill and Perseus
but i don't think voodoo sound will come any time soon from supercurio
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Thank you very much. Is scoobydoo on par with voodoo?

caustic386 said:
Thank you very much. Is scoobydoo on par with voodoo?
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This is a question which im dying to know the answer too lol.

Any way to boost audio output power? for headphones

The galaxy vibant had a wolfson DAC. That thing could output some serious power with some kernal tweaks.
Can we do anything with this junk? (intl gs3 also has a wolfson -- dammit tmobile (we dont))

freshjr said:
The galaxy vibant had a wolfson DAC. That thing could output some serious power with some kernal tweaks.
Can we do anything with this junk? (intl gs3 also has a wolfson -- dammit tmobile (we dont))
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Just use Volume+ (Sound Boost) from the play store. Its the best purchase ive ever made. Using it now to listen to pandora with some serious sony headphones. Sounds amazing. Also, i havent found a stereo system which could handle all the boosted power. Its really night and day

elesbb said:
Just use Volume+ (Sound Boost) from the play store. Its the best purchase ive ever made. Using it now to listen to pandora with some serious sony headphones. Sounds amazing. Also, i havent found a stereo system which could handle all the boosted power. Its really night and day
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Is that a dsp? Because I already use dsp manager for equalizing and I dont want to give it up

If I'm not mistaken there is a file or maybe a couple that you can edit to adjust your output. I think I may have seen something about it in the international forum. If I find it again ill post, but I'm sure its out there if you want to look. I just wish I coukd remember which file.
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Is that a dsp? Because I already use dsp manager for equalizing and I dont want to give it up
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Its better than DSP Manager. IMO.

Sound quality / chip

Hey guys,
maybe some of u can help me.
Im interested in the sound/audio/music quality of the OP3 in compination with headphones.
I know the quality of a Samsung S2 and S4 (both not with Wolfson chip) and i know the S3 and S5 have a variety with a Wolfson chip (never heared them).
Many people say they can hear a different between them.
Maybe some of you know the difference between them and the OP3? Or can compare?
I think about buying a OP3 and i'm really interested in the sound quality with headphones.
Thanks for any answeres and sry for my english

My OnePlus 3 arrived today and I think the quality with headphones is good. Can't hear any difference between my old Nexus 5 and the OP3 both sound good

I doing the return process for that reason, tottally disapointed with the audio quality using headphones

nexus 5 has terrible speaker

knince said:
nexus 5 has terrible speaker
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They are talking about quality of audio on headphones not the speaker.
Shamu by TT

ralph78 said:
They are talking about quality of audio on headphones not the speaker.
Shamu by TT
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got it lol

ichlernungern said:
Hey guys,
maybe some of u can help me.
Im interested in the sound/audio/music quality of the OP3 in compination with headphones.
I know the quality of a Samsung S2 and S4 (both not with Wolfson chip) and i know the S3 and S5 have a variety with a Wolfson chip (never heared them).
Many people say they can hear a different between them.
Maybe some of you know the difference between them and the OP3? Or can compare?
I think about buying a OP3 and i'm really interested in the sound quality with headphones.
Thanks for any answeres and sry for my english
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I believe the audio solution is the same as for all SD820 processors. Built-in 24bit 96khz support. Nothing out of the ordinary and not high-end but good enough for Spotify Premium and stored Flacs etc.
For Premium Audio you are better off adding an outboard DAC such as from Audioquest (Dragonfly) or Meridian Explorer. Built-in ad-hoc sound processors are almost always a compromise.
A few manufacturer, LG and HTC spring to mind, have better, separate built in DAC's and amplifiers which may suit you better if you don't want to shell out for separate ones.
Having said all this, I use an S7Edge (Exynos version) which, like the Snapdragon uses propriatory decoding and I am happy with it for music on the move. (I also use a full Cyrus home system and Grado Headphones for indoor listening to give some perspective).

The headphone quality w/ Bose QC25 is good and a LOT better than the 6P (stock) in my opinion. It still doesn't beat the iPhone 6s+ in loudness and overall sound quality using Spotify or Apple Music. For most people it's good enough and for others Viper should help a ton but for audiophiles and stock out of the box, it's not going to cut it.

latech4832 said:
I doing the return process for that reason, tottally disapointed with the audio quality using headphones
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How? at amazon? bcoz they don't support return for mobile phones in India

I'm coming from iPhone 6s and the only thing that I don't like at this device is the sound quality,external and headphones both.
Hope we can fix it a bit with viper

micr0g said:
I'm coming from iPhone 6s and the only thing that I don't like at this device is the sound quality,external and headphones both.
Hope we can fix it a bit with viper
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My dad has a 6S Plus and every android device (flagships only) I used had much much better quality with V4A installed. Not sure about OP3 though. Yet to test properly.

micr0g said:
I'm coming from iPhone 6s and the only thing that I don't like at this device is the sound quality,external and headphones both.
Hope we can fix it a bit with viper
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I read that in order to install Viper one has to:
"Setup your Device
For Samsung devices,
1. Try install V4A as user app instead of system app if the latter failed doesn’t work.
2. Use Normal Mode and select V4A FX in Settings>Sound>Music Effects.
3. If don’t work, use another player rather than Samsung stock Music player.
——————–
1. ROOT your device.
2. Install busybox if doesn’t come with root.
3. Modify build.prop (Thanks [email protected])
a. Open up /system/build.prop in text editor using any file explorer with root access.
b. Change the line (If you can’t find these lines, skip this step.)
– “Ipa.decode=true” to “lpa.decode=false”
– “tunnel.decode=true” to “tunnel.decode=false”
– “lpa.use-stagefright=true” to “lpa.use-stagefright=false”"
do you know of any other good app to improve the audio quality of the op3 not needing to the root trick?
I find op3 audio rather flat.
Thanks

Could somebody please check if the google play music app offers you the equalizer option in its settings menu? My LG G4 does not and it is one of the (many) things I hate about it

I'm getting really good and rich sound when I use my Sony headphones and when I hook it up to my car stereo it has better sound than my iPhone really impressed with the sound...
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vdundgren said:
do you know of any other good app to improve the audio quality of the op3 not needing to the root trick?
I find op3 audio rather flat.
Thanks
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Viper is by far ur best bet. Using it myself and it improved the sound a lot. Everything else would just be an equalizer since ab adequate driver can't be installed without root.

gusano38 said:
Could somebody please check if the google play music app offers you the equalizer option in its settings menu? My LG G4 does not and it is one of the (many) things I hate about it
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it does indeed! Only way right now I can stand the poor audio quality... Hopefully V4A will work soon on OP3...

I bet some here confuse "audio quality" with "loud" or/and "much bass *LOL*
The audio quality on this device (headphone jack) IS very good, period.
If you want louder signal (and ruin your ears) or more bass (for your lame nts-nts-nts music), install V4A or something like that...
Pocketnow's measurements:
http://pocketnow.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/OnePlus-3-Audio-Stats.jpg

hasenbein1966 said:
I bet some here confuse "audio quality" with "loud" or/and "much bass *LOL*
The audio quality on this device (headphone jack) IS very good, period.
If you want louder signal (and ruin your ears) or more bass (for your lame nts-nts-nts music), install V4A or something like that...
Pocketnow's measurements:
http://pocketnow.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/OnePlus-3-Audio-Stats.jpg
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Agree, limitations are hardware based and no player will improve that. For audiophiles ... use an outboard dac/headphone amplifier.