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HTC to unveil new Mango phone on 1st September

Event announced for 1 September. Its on techradar but I'm not allowed to post links here as not made enough posts.
I'm dure for upgrade now too, I hope they have one with a decent screen, battery life and of course beats dr dre sounds integrated.

Here you go:
http://www.techradar.com/news/phone...ws-phone-mango-handsets-on-1-september-995462

Eternity....

the beats by dre is probably a software thing rather than hardware which could be fixed by an update to the sound enhancer.

eric12341 said:
the beats by dre is probably a software thing rather than hardware which could be fixed by an update to the sound enhancer.
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From what I see, Beats is hardware speakers & headphones, not software only (may include software too). This isn't to say that software couldn't help, but the current HTC WP7 devices have pretty poor speaker, at least in my opinion. My old T-Mobile TP2, T-Mobile Dash, & AT&T Tilt had much better sound quality.
Beats by Dr. Dre

Can't wait to see all the new Mangofied devices coming out this Fall. I'm most looking forward to what Nokia has up its sleeve since I think they don't have too long before they need to release their version of a swam song. HTC always makes good phones though, so if I feel the need to supplement my Dell Venue Pro I'll check out their offerings.

drkfngthdragnlrd said:
From what I see, Beats is hardware speakers & headphones, not software only (may include software too). This isn't to say that software couldn't help, but the current HTC WP7 devices have pretty poor speaker, at least in my opinion. My old T-Mobile TP2, T-Mobile Dash, & AT&T Tilt had much better sound quality.
Beats by Dr. Dre
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It's both, but it currently only works with headphones so the speakers will still be crappy (I have an Envy 14 Beats). The software controls the amount of Bass it amplifies in like an Equaliser.
Also, I accidently clicked thanks instead of quote, so you get a free +1 to your thanks meter

brummiesteven said:
It's both, but it currently only works with headphones so the speakers will still be crappy (I have an Envy 14 Beats). The software controls the amount of Bass it amplifies in like an Equaliser.
Also, I accidently clicked thanks instead of quote, so you get a free +1 to your thanks meter
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Thanks for that additional information & the accidental "thank," lol.

drkfngthdragnlrd said:
Thanks for that additional information & the accidental "thank," lol.
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Just to add, to anyone reading this. It might not necessarily be limited to the headphone jack, that's just how it is on HP Envy's.
HTC could decide to add a Beats Speaker aswell... but Beats technology is VERY expensive, the only speaker they have at the moment is the Beat Box which is #300+ (That's pounds, yes my Envy is a US import and I have no pound sign ), Having said all this, HTC do have a controlling share now.
And yes, the difference is amazing but I do use Beats Solos... Not sure how it would sound with standard headphones.

drkfngthdragnlrd said:
From what I see, Beats is hardware speakers & headphones, not software only (may include software too). This isn't to say that software couldn't help, but the current HTC WP7 devices have pretty poor speaker, at least in my opinion. My old T-Mobile TP2, T-Mobile Dash, & AT&T Tilt had much better sound quality.
Beats by Dr. Dre
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They have poor sound period.

Nokia un imo has the best speakers hands down. Matter a fact one of the phones they unveiled today is said to be the best sounding smrtphome to date I believe its the Nokia 800. Wish it was a wp7 device and not Symbian.
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makoute said:
They have poor sound period.
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this is probably a race motivated statement as u probably can't stand that an African American male invented what's possibly the greatest sound ever produced.

eric12341 said:
this is probably a race motivated statement as u probably can't stand that an African American male invented what's possibly the greatest sound ever produced.
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I believe he was talking about HTC Device, not Beats. If that's the case, he's correct. The HTC HD7 has terrible sound from its built in speakers. The TP2 I used to have had much better sound. Still not great, but at least I could hear it.
PS: Even if he's talking about Beats. What makes this a "race motivated statement?" He never used any racist/derogatory comment towards the creator. He just stated his opinion of "something" having poor sound quality. It's these kind of statement you post that get you in trouble with the mods of this forum. Please, just try to not make posts like this anymore. You'll be doing yourself a favor.

drkfngthdragnlrd said:
I believe he was talking about HTC Device, not Beats. If that's the case, he's correct. The HTC HD7 has terrible sound from its built in speakers. The TP2 I used to have had much better sound. Still not great, but at least I could hear it.
PS: Even if he's talking about Beats. What makes this a "race motivated statement?" He never used any racist/derogatory comment towards the creator. He just stated his opinion of "something" having poor sound quality. It's these kind of statement you post that get you in trouble with the mods of this forum. Please, just try to not make posts like this anymore. You'll be doing yourself a favor.
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he could've been more specific in his reply. these speakers are usually only intended for things such as phone calls, alarms, and podcasts/apps not for hardcore things like music and movies, that's how u blow them out. also the SRS enhancement does enhance the sound from the speakers to a degree.

eric12341 said:
he could've been more specific in his reply. these speakers are usually only intended for things such as phone calls, alarms, and podcasts/apps not for hardcore things like music and movies, that's how u blow them out. also the SRS enhancement does enhance the sound from the speakers to a degree.
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I agree, that is what the speakers are designed for, but why put them in a Phone that is meant to be a Media/Social Networking phone. They're fine for dumbphones like the Motorola RAZR, but WP7 is smartphone & is marketed as a media phone. It's essentially a Zune Phone with additional functionality. I may hate the iPhone, but must admit it has amazing sound even on the built in speaker(s). I mean, even some dumbphones like the Nokia Music Express has much better sound quality. We pay good money for these phones, whether they're Android/WP7/iPhone/what ever, they should give us some quality for that money.

Oh, & while we're at it. include a $5 FM antenna in the device so we aren't restricted to using wired headphones to listen to FM radio, granted I'd never use it as I don't listen to music on the radio, but still. Having FM Radio & the sound enhancement of HTC Sound Enhancer restricted to wire headsets/phones is stupid IMO. I mean come on, this is the day of wireless technology such a BT.

drkfngthdragnlrd said:
I agree, that is what the speakers are designed for, but why put them in a Phone that is meant to be a Media/Social Networking phone. They're fine for dumbphones like the Motorola RAZR, but WP7 is smartphone & is marketed as a media phone. It's essentially a Zune Phone with additional functionality. I may hate the iPhone, but must admit it has amazing sound even on the built in speaker(s). I mean, even some dumbphones like the Nokia Music Express has much better sound quality. We pay good money for these phones, whether they're Android/WP7/iPhone/what ever, they should give us some quality for that money.
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the speaker in my arrive sounds tons better than the iPhone. and the Nokia music express is actually a Symbian smartphone, so of course it's gotta have a great speaker since its built for music.

eric12341 said:
the speaker in my arrive sounds tons better than the iPhone. and the Nokia music express is actually a Symbian smartphone, so of course it's gotta have a great speaker since its built for music.
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I'll have to take your word for it, never heard the Arrive's sound quality. I have a HD7. I wouldn't call the music express a smartphone, yes it has Symbian, but an older version of it that's lacking many features of a true smartphone. The Nokia Nuron now, is another story. My room mates have had both & the Nuron is much better & has great sound quality as well.

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Oh, & while we're at it. include a $5 FM antenna in the device so we aren't restricted to using wired headphones to listen to FM radio, granted I'd never use it as I don't listen to music on the radio, but still. Having FM Radio & the sound enhancement of HTC Sound Enhancer restricted to wire headsets/phones is stupid IMO. I mean come on, this is the day of wireless technology such a BT.
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the SRS enhancement within the sound enhancer works without headphones and there are many radio apps that allow listening to local radio in more superior digital audio quality rather than analog which is what's found on FM Radio.

eric12341 said:
the SRS enhancement within the sound enhancer works without headphones and there are many radio apps that allow listening to local radio in more superior digital audio quality rather than analog which is what's found on FM Radio.
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Some of Sound Enhancement works w/o, but the main feature with the most effect does not & never has, even in WinMo. Do those radio apps work without headphones & if so, are they using the FM Receiver or some kind of Data Connection thing? If they aren't working without headphones & not using the FM receiver, than how does this relate to my antenna comment? That'd be an Apples & Oranges thing.

Terrible Audio Playback

Have any of you experienced terrible audio quality (Tinny sound-sorta like the treble is too high) and a very slight hiss when listening to music on the headphones? Ordered 2 phones from AT and T and both of them have the same issue. I am still debating whether this is an issue or is just the way the phone is.
I had a Tmobile G2 previously and the audio quality when listening to Pandora and other internet radio apps was simply awesome. This is especially disturbing to me as I am absolutely thrilled with the phone in other aspects. Based on your responses I will decide if I want to return the phone to get a replacement or simply get the HTC One X.
FYI I have the AT and T Samsung Galaxy S3 with stock ROM from AT and T.

alfredo123 said:
Have any of you experienced terrible audio quality (Tinny sound-sorta like the treble is too high) and a very slight hiss when listening to music on the headphones? Ordered 2 phones from AT and T and both of them have the same issue. I am still debating whether this is an issue or is just the way the phone is.
I had a Tmobile G2 previously and the audio quality when listening to Pandora and other internet radio apps was simply awesome. This is especially disturbing to me as I am absolutely thrilled with the phone in other aspects. Based on your responses I will decide if I want to return the phone to get a replacement or simply get the HTC One X.
FYI I have the AT and T Samsung Galaxy S3 with stock ROM from AT and T.
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I have found that equalizers are very helpful. Try a few from the Play Store.

GbergNYC said:
I have found that equalizers are very helpful. Try a few from the Play Store.
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Thanks Gberg. I tried the equalizer app, didnt do too much to alleviate the issue. I will be trying a friends phone to see if it has the same issue to decide.

I checked a friends S3 and found pretty much the same results. It is very much possible the audio playback sound quality is not as good as some of the other phones.
Will be trying a more expensive headset.
Also, Can anyone let me know if rooting the phone and installing a custom rom would make any difference to the sound quality?

alfredo123 said:
I checked a friends S3 and found pretty much the same results. It is very much possible the audio playback sound quality is not as good as some of the other phones.
Will be trying a more expensive headset.
Also, Can anyone let me know if rooting the phone and installing a custom rom would make any difference to the sound quality?
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Yes...other roms can help/hurt audio as they replace/tweak audio libraries. Cyanogen Mod includes a DSP app. Another thing i have done that helps a lot is to install awesome beats. check the apps and themes forum for installation instructions...of course you must have root.
Hope this helps. Oh BTW..i'm using the Bose MIE2's. While i'm not a huge Bose fan generally....I have found them to be quite satisfactory with equalization.

Try equalizing with DSPManager I know it comes with Gapps on jelly bean it features bass boost and like I said before equalizer that may help or it could just be the device/defected.

Voodoo for Note 2?

What audio chip note 2 has? Will it support voodoo sound like other Galaxies?

lexus232 said:
What audio chip note 2 has? Will it support voodoo sound like other Galaxies?
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Wolfson, the same that S1 and S3 for example..
its confirmed

still no voodoo.from supercurio for the s3 like he promised.
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xiskillo said:
Wolfson, the same that S1 and S3 for example..
its confirmed
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No, its not the same of S1, its not that good, but better than the note 1

kersh said:
its not the same of S1, its not that good
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How pity, I Iove my SGS1 for its sound capabilities.

lexus232 said:
How pity, I Iove my SGS1 for its sound capabilities.
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Don't worry. As far as implemented functionality from Samsung and Android, they should be similar and infact I believe the loudspeaker amplifier seems more powerful in the new chipset (I am inferring through SGS3 specs as I believe its the same for Note 2). More importantly, it should be WAY superior to SGS2 and Note 1 as I find them absolutely useless with my powered headphones.

kersh said:
No, its not the same of S1, its not that good, but better than the note 1
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Source?
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Wolfson Micro WM1811 http://www.wolfsonmicro.com/products/audio_hubs/WM1811/
100dB SNR Class W Heapdhone amp output, ReTune DSP, 3x digital interface.
Like WM8994 in Galaxy S / Nexus S, except:
1x stereo DAC instead of 2x.
2x 2W Speaker amp instead of 2x 1W
Smaller and probably cheaper, same sound quality expected.

xiskillo said:
Source?
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Wolfson Micro WM1811 http://www.wolfsonmicro.com/products/audio_hubs/WM1811/
100dB SNR Class W Heapdhone amp output, ReTune DSP, 3x digital interface.
Like WM8994 in Galaxy S / Nexus S, except:
1x stereo DAC instead of 2x.
2x 2W Speaker amp instead of 2x 1W
Smaller and probably cheaper, same sound quality expected.
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Yup, thats what I meant. Thanks for getting the numbers. Unfortunately the stereo speaker output may not help as I believe Note 2 may have a mono speaker like the rest, pity!

Supercurio - Eagerly awaiting an update on this. Hope its coming soon as you tweeted.

People do overestimate the difference in sound quality between the sgs and other phones.
Yes, the chip in the sgs really shines with voodoo sound's amazing mechanics, but this isn't something you'll hear or can take advantage of with stock earbuds, dre or skullcandy headsets. You need at least an entry level hi fi setup or a decent set of headphones. Until you get to that point, you might as well just be using an eq.
I'm not trying to be condescending, but I think many people use a turbo and stuff it into their vw beetle and expect to go 300 kmh
Just ordered a note 2, and will be looking forward to test it beside my sgs!
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I have an sgs as well as the note2 now....
I own sony extra bass earphones they sound really awesome in the samsung galaxy S , just a little less in the Note2 but all the difference I see is of the bass ..the galaxy s pumps those beats quite well unlike the note2
And just fyi just throw the stock samsung earphones in the dustbin..they are worst like made in china nit china is to blame but its cheapass ! ( Sony made in Philippines)
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adytum said:
People do overestimate the difference in sound quality between the sgs and other phones.
Yes, the chip in the sgs really shines with voodoo sound's amazing mechanics, but this isn't something you'll hear or can take advantage of with stock earbuds, dre or skullcandy headsets. You need at least an entry level hi fi setup or a decent set of headphones. Until you get to that point, you might as well just be using an eq.
I'm not trying to be condescending, but I think many people use a turbo and stuff it into their vw beetle and expect to go 300 kmh
Just ordered a note 2, and will be looking forward to test it beside my sgs!
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The chip in the SGS really did shine with a bit of Voodoo:
Youtube: watch?v=-c5XOTP77qs
It's really rare for a smartphone to be able to record in extreme environments like that. The Nokia Lumia 920 is another phone with similar capabilities, here's a comparison of that one with the HTC 8x at the same event:
Youtube: watch?v=svM5g_9539Y
Phones in general get the result of the HTC, including the SGS without the Voodoo fix. I Haven't really tried the new gen Samsung's in a location like this, but I know that the SGS3 sounds basically like the HTC above, because the microphone doesn't enable recording for loud environments in the software.
Sure, recording in loud environments isn't something you normally do, but, it's still nice to have the ability to do it.
Sorry for the "broken" youtube links, apparently I'm not old enough to post links...

So we now technically have voodoo for the note2 right? Since scoobydoo is basically voodoo?
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ars_92 said:
So we now technically have voodoo for the note2 right? Since scoobydoo is basically voodoo?
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For international users only from what I see. Which is disappointing.

Check out Pongsters latest red pill kernel. )
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1975938
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Awesome! Now we finally have voodoo like sound on our Note 2.
Couple of things missing in Siyah's implementation:
1. No volume slider hack so to keep digital volume max and tweaking analog one needs to be done through Stweaks app and the change happens after we change and hit "Apply" against realtime hack in voodoo sound app. This means, dynamic range is low in lower volume and noise floor high. Also means we wont get extended volume levels (0-63) instead of only 15 levels in default digital volume slider
2. No video recording DRC hack as in voodoo sound app (haven't tested, may be hidden but atleast no tweaking of DRC possible)
I prefer using voodoo sound app which is not yet detecting these kernels to be compatible with it to enjoy the above features.
Also I prefer the below kernel for this for CPU and GPU overclocking options in Stweaks app:
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1927852
Hope Supercurio adds support for these kernels atleast in his paid app.

so.......
I'm a n00b with all this, so can someone boil it down to a yes/no: Voodoo for Note 2? Sound quality on par with Galaxy 1?
I have Westones, not the usual earbuds, and the S1 is literally the best FLAC player I've ever owned. It's certainly a bit long in the tooth at this point, however, so I'm interested in upgrading but not willing to give up the Wolfson + Voodoo. I'm in the states, but I've got no problem buying an unlocked model from elsewhere if necessary.
Edit: Forgot to mention I'm tied to USCC (job pays for phone), not sure if that matters

caustic386 said:
I'm a n00b with all this, so can someone boil it down to a yes/no: Voodoo for Note 2? Sound quality on par with Galaxy 1?
I have Westones, not the usual earbuds, and the S1 is literally the best FLAC player I've ever owned. It's certainly a bit long in the tooth at this point, however, so I'm interested in upgrading but not willing to give up the Wolfson + Voodoo. I'm in the states, but I've got no problem buying an unlocked model from elsewhere if necessary.
Edit: Forgot to mention I'm tied to USCC (job pays for phone), not sure if that matters
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yes its the same ( but not totally ) with kernel like red pill and Perseus
but i don't think voodoo sound will come any time soon from supercurio

yahyoh said:
yes its the same ( but not totally ) with kernel like red pill and Perseus
but i don't think voodoo sound will come any time soon from supercurio
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Thank you very much. Is scoobydoo on par with voodoo?

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Thank you very much. Is scoobydoo on par with voodoo?
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This is a question which im dying to know the answer too lol.

SOUND QUALITY (when compared with devices equipped with the Wolfson DAC )

Just curiuous about the sound quality of the Oppo find 7 compared with those devices carrying the Wolfson DAC .
Regardin headset output
Anyone?

I don't know about headphones but all i know is this phone has the loudest and clearest speakers i have ever seen on a smartphone. I have owned all of the galaxy models, droid dna, xperia z2, optimus g pro, nexus 4, huawei mate; to name a few. Besides the HTC Boom sound i don't think many others come close. Most of the time it is literally too loud for general use at full volume.

Thanks
But I am really interested on the headset sound quality.
No external speaker can match my JBL portable ( for phones) ..
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Actually, it would be interesting to know what is the it's the impact (if any)of the cooperation between Waves and Wolfson ( http://www.analog-eetimes.com/en/mo...-technologies.html?cmp_id=7&news_id=222905459 ) on the find 7, since the Snapdragon processor got its own DAC...

betoNL said:
Just curiuous about the sound quality of the Oppo find 7 compared with those devices carrying the Wolfson DAC .
Regardin headset output
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This is my second device with Snapdragon DAC(first was a Xiaomi Mi-2) and both has a very good sound output with well balance equalizer and 0 distortion. MaxxAudio and DiracHD(in ColorOS) it's DSP and as well they put they signature efects and equalizer, this things I don't like. Comparing to Wolfson DAC in my Galaxy devices ,my iPhone 1st gen and my iPod I can't complain about quality and power output, of course they have diferent signatures of sound but every DAC and headphone has too.

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This is my second device with Snapdragon DAC(first was a Xiaomi Mi-2) and both has a very good sound output with well balance equalizer and 0 distortion. MaxxAudio and DiracHD(in ColorOS) it's DSP and as well they put they signature efects and equalizer, this things I don't like. Comparing to Wolfson DAC in my Galaxy devices ,my iPhone 1st gen and my iPod I can't complain about quality and power output, of course they have diferent signatures of sound but every DAC and headphone has too.
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I am also not that impressed with this "award winning" maxxaudio thing and I wonder if it's any better than Viper4Android as a DSP manager.
I guess I just have to take my headsets to a showroom and run some tests on another device carrying probably the same Qualcomm built-in DAC such as the HTC 1 M8.
However it could be that the HTC got another amp implementation ......
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betoNL said:
I am also not that impressed with this "award winning" maxxaudio thing and I wonder if it's any better than Viper4Android as a DSP manager.
I guess I just have to take my headsets to a showroom and run some tests on another device carrying probably the same Qualcomm built-in DAC such as the HTC 1 M8.
However it could be that the HTC got another amp implementation .......
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As a DSP manager MaxxAudio has a good performance and serve for his purpose that is general public and even Viper has a profile that's similar to it. Equalizers and DSP are fairly wrong because they aren't correct anything but adding something that they don't need used and makes even a great DAC like Wolfson sounds bad.

I'll be able to give you subjective views soon enough
I own the SGS3 (with Boeffla sound) and have the Oppo Find 7 coming to me within a week.
I own the Modded D2Ks (essentailly D5Ks) and Audeo Phonak PFE232s

@TotallydubbedHD
Thank you very much..
I will be looking forward your findings
Cheers

betoNL said:
@TotallydubbedHD
Thank you very much..
I will be looking forward your findings
Cheers
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no worries

betoNL said:
@TotallydubbedHD
Thank you very much..
I will be looking forward your findings
Cheers
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Hey there!
Here's my impressions - I just got the phone today and have been playing around with it.
It's almost 3am here and I've got work tomorrow at 9 lol!
Sound impressions: extremely positive, it sounds great!
If I had to compare, I would say (and this is being EXTREMELY analytical of the sound, A/Bing and trying to listen out to certain parts of songs - difference isn't that obvious):
-S3 has a more meatier sound, little more bass emphasis
-S3 and Find 7 have the same output volume (or very close to it)
-Oppo Find 7 is more mid centric
-S3's soundstage is slightly wider/deeper
-Highs seem very similar
Notes:
-Tests conducted un-amped with my heavily modded D2Ks
-This was tested with the S3 using DeltaROM that has Boeflla kernel, but I made sure to disable Boeffla sound in the configurator, before stating the above results. (With Boeflla enabled, the S3 wins in every way, hands down)
-Oppo Find 7 is running stock ROM Colour OS 1.2.6i.
-Both are running Poweramp (unlocked) with flat EQs
-Both phones are on Android 4.3
End of the day, there's an extremely slight difference between the two. It isn't something like the S2's (yes numero dos) horrible chipset (as far as I'm, aware subjectively speaking), but nor is it better sounding than the S3 nor the beast the S1.
It lies between the S2 and S3's sound. Great but not as good I guess.
I listen to music a heck of a lot on my phone and I think I'll cope with with this initial listen - in other words, it's not something that will make me put it down, it's something I'll stick to and happily listen to
On a separate note: the Oppo Find 7 is an amazing phone, blistering fast, charging was ridiculously good, the camera is decent (especially the front facing one) and the Colour OS skin is the best Android skin I've ever come across (ie HTC's Sense and Samsung's TW).
However, I'm a little disappointed by its overall brightness levels , lack of pull-down notification customisation and little washed out colours.
other than those three points (which can all potentially be sorted out via a custom rom), the phone is so far flawless

TotallydubbedHD said:
Hey there!
Here's my impressions - I just got the phone today and have been playing around with it.
It's almost 3am here and I've got work tomorrow at 9 lol!
Sound impressions: extremely positive, it sounds great!
If I had to compare, I would say (and this is being EXTREMELY analytical of the sound, A/Bing and trying to listen out to certain parts of songs - difference isn't that obvious):
-S3 has a more meatier sound, little more bass emphasis
-S3 and Find 7 have the same output volume (or very close to it)
-Oppo Find 7 is more mid centric
-S3's soundstage is slightly wider/deeper
-Highs seem very similar
Notes:
-Tests conducted un-amped with my heavily modded D2Ks
-This was tested with the S3 using DeltaROM that has Boeflla kernel, but I made sure to disable Boeffla sound in the configurator, before stating the above results. (With Boeflla enabled, the S3 wins in every way, hands down)
-Oppo Find 7 is running stock ROM Colour OS 1.2.6i.
-Both are running Poweramp (unlocked) with flat EQs
-Both phones are on Android 4.3
End of the day, there's an extremely slight difference between the two. It isn't something like the S2's (yes numero dos) horrible chipset (as far as I'm, aware subjectively speaking), but nor is it better sounding than the S3 nor the beast the S1.
It lies between the S2 and S3's sound. Great but not as good I guess.
I listen to music a heck of a lot on my phone and I think I'll cope with with this initial listen - in other words, it's not something that will make me put it down, it's something I'll stick to and happily listen to
On a separate note: the Oppo Find 7 is an amazing phone, blistering fast, charging was ridiculously good, the camera is decent (especially the front facing one) and the Colour OS skin is the best Android skin I've ever come across (ie HTC's Sense and Samsung's TW). the Find 7
However, I'm a little disappointed by its overall brightness levels , lack of pull-down notification customisation and little washed out colours.
other than those three points (which can all potentially be sorted out via a custom rom), the phone is so far flawless
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Thank you again...
I will give the chinese a go ....just ordered the find 7 ...
I am keeping my GNote 2 ( with Wolfson / Voodoo) just in case..
Will post here my findings too ...
Cheers

betoNL said:
Thank you again...
I will give the chinese a go ....just ordered the find 7 ...
I am keeping my GNote 2 ( with Wolfson / Voodoo) just in case..
Will post here my findings too ...
Cheers
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Cool beans!
Please let me know how your screen looks - I've been worried about mine being faulty:
http://www.oppoforums.com/threads/f...on-screen-brightness-issue.19138/#post-275288

TotallydubbedHD said:
Cool beans!
Please let me know how your screen looks - I've been worried about mine being faulty:
http://www.oppoforums.com/threads/f...on-screen-brightness-issue.19138/#post-275288
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No problem.
I am new at the Find 7 forums ( here and there) and I didint even get my Find 7 yet, but if I were you I would not compare the screen with a sAmoled device...and... just flash a CM or AOSP rom to check if the issue is softwarewise
If it's not the hardware, I guess a firmware upgrade will do ( if you want to stick with stock)

betoNL said:
No problem.
I am new at the Find 7 forums ( here and there) and I didint even get my Find 7 yet, but if I were you I would not compare the screen with a sAmoled device...and... just flash a CM or AOSP rom to check if the issue is softwarewise
If it's not the hardware, I guess a firmware upgrade will do ( if you want to stick with stock)
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indeed - I'll be flashing nameless tonight

TotallydubbedHD said:
indeed - I'll be flashing nameless tonight
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Dont forget to report back
Since it's a bit off-topic ( no big deal ) you could start a dedicated thread here at the XDA
My Find 7 is probably arriving tomorrow...
I hope it's from a new batch, even if it's coming from England and not China ....:fingers-crossed:

betoNL said:
Dont forget to report back
Since it's a bit off-topic ( no big deal ) you could start a dedicated thread here at the XDA
My Find 7 is probably arriving tomorrow...
I hope it's from a new batch, even if it's coming from England and not China ....:fingers-crossed:
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flashed nameless - seems like the same thing in terms of brightness - I'm just wondering if it's a device/glass thing, rather than anything else....I'#ms tarting to doubt myself.
But each time I see comparisons on YouTube, the S5 and Oppo look identical in brightness
Btw: Nameless is RIDICULOUSLY fast !

Very disappointed with audio. What are my options

Hey guys.
I have a Pixel 2 XL and have had it for about 6 months now.
Overall I am pretty disappointed with the audio out of the phone. I am using my Ultimate Ears TF10 through a Dragonfly Black and it sounds much worse than just the TF10s through my iPhone 6s (not using the dragonfly)
I can see a few options here and seeking some feedback.
1. Root the phone (I have read on here some custom ROMs will give better gains over USB C.
2. Get a pair of Bluetooth headphones (I don't really want to do this since I already have a good set of IEMs. Also are there any restrictions with Bluetooth such as compression etc.
3. Sell the phone and go get an LG v30 with its quad DAC.
Overall I'm pretty happy with the phone but the audio is very disappointing and I spend a few hours commuting today so it's a real let down.
Let me know what everyone thinks
Thanks guys
Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk

Root using Magisk and install the following modules.
Viper4Android FX Materialized
Ainur Sauron
Audio Compatibility Patch
Audio Modification Library
Those four modules should improve the sound quality.

Thorpef101 said:
Hey guys.
I have a Pixel 2 XL and have had it for about 6 months now.
Overall I am pretty disappointed with the audio out of the phone. I am using my Ultimate Ears TF10 through a Dragonfly Black and it sounds much worse than just the TF10s through my iPhone 6s (not using the dragonfly)
I can see a few options here and seeking some feedback.
1. Root the phone (I have read on here some custom ROMs will give better gains over USB C.
2. Get a pair of Bluetooth headphones (I don't really want to do this since I already have a good set of IEMs. Also are there any restrictions with Bluetooth such as compression etc.
3. Sell the phone and go get an LG v30 with its quad DAC.
Overall I'm pretty happy with the phone but the audio is very disappointing and I spend a few hours commuting today so it's a real let down.
Let me know what everyone thinks
Thanks guys
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-2-xl/themes/pixel-2-usb-audio-control-t3704024/page16

I am surprised you are having such a bad expierience.
The USB only audio (no headset jack) advantage is that you can use better DAC/Amps than on a regular smartphone.
My measurements of the various ones out there all show pretty decent specs (with some exceptions).
The stock Google dongle is excellent (it's a custom Realtec chip), I am testing the new one this weekend. Sure, using my gain control app will get you a bit cleaner tracing but whether that's audible or not, hard to say.
Apt X bluetooth with the Mee BT adapter is also very good.
I wonder if perhaps your transducer(s) in the headphone/IEM aren't working properly. That happened to me a couple of years ago with my SE846 and it drove me nuts until I figured it out.
Another thing to check: What source are you listening to? Your own rips (and what player), Spotify, G music etc? Let me know and we can go from there, as the problems vary between each one. Do you use the on board equalizer or any equalizer? If so what gains, bands?

I just tested the new dongle and re evaluated the USB audio in Pie - the implementation is substantially better and the gains are now properly optimized.
So, I don't think your issue is a Dac dongle problem, unless it is defective.

Thanks for the help so far guys.
Source is Spotify 320 kbps.
I don't think it's the headphones as it sounds fine when I plug back into my iPhone.
I might do some more testing this afternoon when I get home as my wife has the same phone.
I also have a pair of MEE X7 Bluetooth earphones and I am more impressed with these via Bluetooth (yes they are boomy but I can tell that the Bluetooth dac isn't being restricted)
I'll fill in once I have tested on my wife's phone tonight
Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk

Edit: NVM. I see someone else suggested viper

Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
Root using Magisk and install the following modules.
Viper4Android FX Materialized
Ainur Sauron
Audio Compatibility Patch
Audio Modification Library
Those four modules should improve the sound quality.
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Do these work on Pie?

pizza_pablo said:
Do these work on Pie?
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Considering I'm on Android 9 as we speak, yes.

Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
Considering I'm on Android 9 as we speak, yes.
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I couldn't tell you were running the Pie.
Thanks!

pizza_pablo said:
I couldn't tell you were running the Pie.
Thanks!
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I don't exactly advertise it. ?

I'm running those same audio mods and have no complaints with sound... Are you sure you have everything enabled in magisk property? Is V4A showing "processing =yes" when you are playing music?

My P2XL is not rooted and on Pie.
The only thing I've really missed, so far, is Dolby Atmos.
Since it's not available for Pie, I've been holding off rooting.
While searching for an audio booster, I found this app. Believe it, or not, it sounds almost as good as Dolby Atmos. I'm still tweaking it.