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Just wondering if its taking awhile or people have stopped updating roms. like viperrom, midnight, redbeast etc..?
bestcavsfan said:
Just wondering if its taking awhile or people have stopped updating roms. like viperrom, midnight, redbeast etc..?
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First off developers do this as a hobby not a job. They don't get paid for it. Usually ROM updates follow stock updates such as to EC05 or adding voodoo sound and color. So if there is nothing new to add then what would you have them do?
If you have a specific request you can go to development of the ROM you have donated to and request that feature. The other option is to feel free to work on a ROM in your spare time.
Trying to be as nice as possible, you will get some nasty comments from some people.
Do you BONSAI?
kennyglass123 said:
First off developers do this as a hobby not a job. They don't get paid for it. Usually ROM updates follow stock updates such as to EC05 or adding voodoo sound and color. So if there is nothing new to add then what would you have them do?
If you have a specific request you can go to development of the ROM you have donated to and request that feature. The other option is to feel free to work on a ROM in your spare time.
Trying to be as nice as possible, you will get some nasty comments from some people.
Do you BONSAI?
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Ya i know all that, believe me its not my first time doing all this stuff. ha. I was just hoping to get some replies from the developers of the roms. But ya i probably should just contact the actual developers.
bestcavsfan said:
Ya i know all that, believe me its not my first time doing all this stuff. ha. I was just hoping to get some replies from the developers of the roms. But ya i probably should just contact the actual developers.
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Yes, I would PM the developers and see what's up. FYI Bonsai will be releasing a new beta in the coming weeks for donors to test and Rodderick told me he is releasing a new Genocide kernel in the coming weeks.
kennyglass123;13122504[B said:
]First off developers do this as a hobby not a job. They don't get paid for it.[/B] Usually ROM updates follow stock updates such as to EC05 or adding voodoo sound and color. So if there is nothing new to add then what would you have them do?
If you have a specific request you can go to development of the ROM you have donated to and request that feature. The other option is to feel free to work on a ROM in your spare time.
Trying to be as nice as possible, you will get some nasty comments from some people.
Do you BONSAI?
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the first phrase highlighted and the second highlighted phrase directly contridict each other, and that is whats crappy about this community. it used to all be for fun. donation buttons should be banned.
and dont call me a non donator either. ive donated to bonsai lately (or tribal knowledge lmtd. as donators would know it) and many other devs in the past. it should NEVER be a requirement for service though.
austin420 said:
the first phrase highlighted and the second highlighted phrase directly contridict each other, and that is whats crappy about this community. it used to all be for fun. donation buttons should be banned.
and dont call me a non donator. ive donated to bonsai lately and many other devs in the past. it should NEVER be a requirement for service though.
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You are right, it is not a requirement for service, however it should never be requested for Devs to give up their life and time for free to make ROM hungry people happy. I gladly donate to the kernel and ROM devs whose product I find the best and feel no shame in pm'ing them about future products. If ROMs don't come out fast enough for some people they should learn to make their own ROMs. I see too many ungrateful people in these threads that ***** and whine but don't donate as if the DEVs are getting paid by XDA to develop ROMs and we as registered users somehow deserve them.
That's all I am saying. Don't want to turn this into some kind of service/donate debate.
with 2.3 looming, its doubtful any updates with be done. Besides; how much better can they get them??
jdelano said:
with 2.3 looming, its doubtful any updates with be done. Besides; how much better can they get them??
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Yes, I think they are all waiting to get a copy of the source code for 2.3. My phone is ridiculously fast and stable so I am happy right now.
Do you BONSAI?
there are always new roms to me ... i almost never look up newer ones until the one i have limits me somehow or i accidentally do the sprint update and my phone crashes
I can't wait for a 2.3 leak.
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MOD EDIT: I am closing this thread. It has become pathetic the amount of trolling and arguing and complaining - you would think this was a thread with a bunch of high school kids if it wasn't for the timestamps saying otherwise.
In addition, after further review this effort falls short of the general XDA guidelines for bounty threads in that it is not for one specific developer, but instead a free-for-all for whomever gets something *done* first, and then that is a subjective nightmare.
And further, the idea of donating to an effort of this sort always leads to further the sense of entitlement which always infects XDA.
All pledges can be considered moot and you may choose to donate to whomever you want to.
put me down for $20 for full 1.0 release of ROM
Im in for $20 but what are you talking about when you say full code?
There are lots of people that would love this but you also know you posted this in the wrong forum this should be in general... the mod will move this so you will probably need to look for it there .....
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ilostmypistons said:
Im in for $20 but what are you talking about when you say full code?
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Put me down for for 25
wrong section for 1, second ICS will come to our phone as soon as its possible trust me.. your not the only one that wants ICS
put me down for 20 im excited to experience the hype over ics
ehusidic said:
put me down for 20 im excited to experience the hype over ics
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Download the sdk you can play with it a little .....
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20 from me also
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Epix4G said:
Download the sdk you can play with it a little .....
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It just isn't the same unless ive got it in my hand.
Wow! Others want ICS as bad as me!
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20 from me also
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Due to the rapid responses and at least one for even more than $20, we might get this REWARD up to 4 figures within 24 hours which would be an awesome stimulant for thosE capable of compiling a ROM for our beloved Sprint E4GT.
EVERYONE: Seems this thread has been moved to GENERAL. I don't care if they but it under LIEUTENANT or even CORPORAL as long as we get our ROM ASAP! Thanks y'all and tell your friends so we can make the total reward even more enticing and get our ICE CREAM SANDWICH even sooner!
UPDATE: We're already up to $165. GO TEAM GO !!!
I seen bounty threads in the past. The just don't work from what I saw. It's easy to pledge, but, when the day comes to paying it's just as easy to forget.
Personally I believe a bounty should be more organized. There should be a pot that people donate to. So, the money is actually there to help entice any developer to get more motivated. That would eliminate half ass promises. With this system we will be able to tell how much money one can make for fulfilling the desired request. Problem is deciding who is trustworthy enough to handle this pot.
If this system is somehow adopted I will be donating to the cause.
personally i was the first one to provide my confirmed donation for the OG Evo wimax on AOSP thread, so its on the honor policy. True there could be better ways to entice, but this is a start.
@OP - usually the subject of the thread is modified with the date and pledge amount total
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I seen bounty threads in the past. The just don't work from what I saw. It's easy to pledge, but, when the day comes to paying it's just as easy to forget.
Personally I believe a bounty should be more organized. There should be a pot that people donate to. So, the money is actually there to help entice any developer to get more motivated. That would eliminate half ass promises. With this system we will be able to tell how much money one can make for fulfilling the desired request. Problem is deciding who is trustworthy enough to handle this pot.
If this system is somehow adopted I will be donating to the cause.
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exactly! stop promising to donate to whoever does it first when you know more than half of you won't donate anything and reap the benefits...
Ill drop $35.0 if its even possible without source. Which you would probably need lots of luck.
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elliwigy said:
exactly! stop promising to donate to whoever does it first when you know more than half of you won't donate anything and reap the benefits...
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Yep, I wonder how many edited posts we'll see in here. lol
subbed!
dis gon be gud
is dat sum bounty thread?
...this never ends well...
Avoiding Broken Donation Promises
elliwigy said:
exactly! stop promising to donate to whoever does it first when you know more than half of you won't donate anything and reap the benefits...
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Idea: Everyone who posts on this thread is giving us their XDA ID info. When it comes time for all of us to "pay up" I'd be happy to post a Shame Page to let everyone know whose word is worthless.
P.S. I'm also good as exposing "bad people" because criminals routinely try to purchase my software, printers & MICR cartridges or use them to commit crimes so I regularly help law enforcement catch and convict them via my Criminal Alerts page
OK people, let me know what you think or offer your own ideas!
keeping y'all honest !
Here are the people who have promised to donate so far. Maybe they can remove their posts but they can't remove mine!
$20 weltwon
$20 xlGmanlx
$20 ilostmypistons
$25 digweed4me
$20 ehusidic
$20 expr
$35 humdrum2009
$160 Current Total
It's the HONOR SYSTEM. If you want the ROM and have any honor, post your $20 message below. I will continue updating the donors and total until we get the Ice Cream Sandwich ROM for our Galaxy S2 Epic 4G Touch!
PayPal here:
Any donations and/or support are greatly appreciated.
11/14/12: withdrew monies from PayPal. Putting it towards purchases of some more hardware. Leaving the donation link up because this project could surely use much more support! Thanks to everyone who contributed so far!
10/30/12: made a quick update to the chipin site. Still working on getting the chipin site and Paypal to sync properly, but all donations are definitely showing in the Paypal, so no worries.
UPDATE: The first donation of up to $50 dollars, I will match with a donation of $50.
UPDATE 2: Due to popular demand, there will be a "learner box" created for those that want to "experiment" with development on a faster machine. There should be enough parts to put it together and have it running as we approach the current project goal.
This is the official buildbox support thread. Many of you are probably wondering what a buildbox is... I will try to explain without getting too far sidetracked!
---Purpose---We are trying to raise money in support of multiple roms/devs. This is not for one particular dev, nor is it one particular rom. Consider this a donation to the community in which you are a part of. This is helping the devs have more resources at their disposal, and ultimately, helping you have a better rom! Please read below for more of an explanation.
---What is buildbox?---For the open source community (CM10, Paranoid Android, CNA, etc), the roms are built from source. Doing this is not very easy, nor is it quick! It takes a lot of time and effort. I don't want to simply 'thank' the devs and leave it at that. So, I have made a contribution to the open source community. I have commited a powerful server to the devs that choose to use it for building open source roms.
Now you say, "So what... they could use their own computer and build roms..."
Yes, they could. However, look at this. For many devs (especially since ICS and above), the build times have increased significantly!! I'm talking 4+ hours in some cases! In steps the buildbox. The buildbox (in it's current condition) has cut most build times to between 20 and 30 mins.
Then you ask, "Why does that matter to me?" Well, the quicker the rom is done, the quicker we discover bugs, and, in turn, can FIX bugs! Think about it: If you were waiting in the lobby at the car dealership for some work to be done and it was going to take 3 hours to complete the work, you wait. You aren't getting anything done. Now, if you were able to speed the process up to 25 min, you could get much more done that day because you aren't stuck for over 3 hours!
---Why does this matter to you?---Maybe more choices of roms, maybe nightlies of your favorite roms, maybe less bugs! A small donation toward our goal will help keep the hardware current and allow for the devs to get the great benefit of a powerful machine. Hard drive space is quickly filling up, the RAM is over full utilization, and other hardware improvements can be made.
PayPal here:
Any donations and/or support are greatly appreciated.
Currently supported devs (a big thanks goes out to them and their work!): Phantomphreak53 (CM10 nightlies), kbizzle (Paranoid Android), and justlovejoy (CNA)
PS: If anyone is looking for more info, has suggestions, or is interested in the project, feel free to pm me. All of the devs can vouch for me (even a couple not listed here). This is a legitimate request. We are counting on the open source community to keep this project going strong.
tl;dr, support open source development and make a donation to the development tools!
This Dude Is Amazing In his efforts to contribute to the true meaning of AOSP for ALL!
Thank You! Without You CNA wouldnt have moved as fast as it did and my future ROM's
Hopefully too! Thank You Again Sir!
If I had the money to throw down on this I would definitely make a donation for this.
Not only would this help cut build times, this would also speed up the time it takes to sync repositories, depending on the connection that the build box has.
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I use to donate to Developers, because they spend time developing instead studying, hanging with friends or family etc.
But to be honest, and judging about other threads by you. This sounds more like: "i want a new computer" than "lets help the community".
I hope to be wrong.
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This is not a "I want to buy a new computer" type of thread.
This is a thread for donations to help keep his server up and running. Running a cloud based server for building from source requires a good internet connection, and I'm not talking 12, 20, or even 50Mbps... at the minimum it needs a good fiber connection with something like 100Mbps down and at a minimum 50Mbps up.
Just think of this, it is similar to a virtual machine you can run at home.. but you can have multiple sessions running at once. Justlovejoy could be doing something, slick_rick could be doing something, sbrissen, phantomphreak, etc. If one needs to do a sync of the repository, there would be plenty of bandwidth and processing power for all of the developers to do so.
With donations, he could go out and get more memory for making backups. He could set a cron job for something like 6 in the morning after the nightly builds complete to make a backup image of the entire build box. Our developers work is safe if there is ever any failure. That means less time reconfiguring build environment, syncing repositories, building, committing changes to github...
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No love for sbrissen? Pretty sure most (all?) of JB development is using part of his code or chris41g's
rovar said:
No love for sbrissen? Pretty sure most (all?) of JB development is using part of his code or chris41g's
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We would not have jellybean if it was not for sbrissen. End of story. All other developers are secondary.
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csmasn said:
I use to donate to Developers, because they spend time developing instead studying, hanging with friends or family etc.
But to be honest, and judging about other threads by you. This sounds more like: "i want a new computer" than "lets help the community".
I hope to be wrong.
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I invite you to read the information contained in the link to the chipin site. I have tried to elaborate as much as possible to help everyone understand the purpose of this project. I am including a quote from the chipin site (which I plan to update with any future upgrades for the project):
basketthis said:
**Note: This box is used specifically for development. This is not my personal computer. I do not use it to play games, type papers, or do my taxes. It is completely maintained, updated, and kept running by me. On my own donated time and money. And is completely "owned" by others. I do not benefit from any of this directly. The community (users and devs) benefit from this project.**
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I hope that clears some things up for everyone ^
Mattix724 said:
This is not a "I want to buy a new computer" type of thread.
This is a thread for donations to help keep his server up and running. Running a cloud based server for building from source requires a good internet connection, and I'm not talking 12, 20, or even 50Mbps... at the minimum it needs a good fiber connection with something like 100Mbps down and at a minimum 50Mbps up.
Just think of this, it is similar to a virtual machine you can run at home.. but you can have multiple sessions running at once. Justlovejoy could be doing something, slick_rick could be doing something, sbrissen, phantomphreak, etc. If one needs to do a sync of the repository, there would be plenty of bandwidth and processing power for all of the developers to do so.
With donations, he could go out and get more memory for making backups. He could set a cron job for something like 6 in the morning after the nightly builds complete to make a backup image of the entire build box. Our developers work is safe if there is ever any failure. That means less time reconfiguring build environment, syncing repositories, building, committing changes to github...
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We hope to be able to invite more devs in the future. With more power, greater things come.
rovar said:
No love for sbrissen? Pretty sure most (all?) of JB development is using part of his code or chris41g's
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I appreciate everything that sbrissen and chris41g do!
Exit_Only said:
We would not have jellybean if it was not for sbrissen. End of story. All other developers are secondary.
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You are correct, we owe credit to sbrissen for jellbybean. These "secondary devs" have produced many good roms. They have allowed the community more choices. They actively work on fixes. They try to answer the communities requests. They provide you nightlies (for the flash-o-holics out there). It doesn't sound like you are giving these "secondary devs" as much credit as they are due.
This is a completely independent project. Without support from the community, it will be hard for these great devs to continue to put out the work that they do.
rovar said:
No love for sbrissen? Pretty sure most (all?) of JB development is using part of his code or chris41g's
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Exit_Only said:
We would not have jellybean if it was not for sbrissen. End of story. All other developers are secondary.
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Thats not the point of this thread. Everyone here knows sbrissen brought us JB and were all grateful for that.
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That's my point. Why is he not included into this?. Afaik he is the only one developing AOSP as the thread title indicates.
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rovar said:
That's my point. Why is he not included into this?. Afaik he is the only one developing AOSP as the thread title indicates.
Tappin' Typin'
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AOSP stands for android open source project. All of the roms listed are not touchwiz. Hence, they are AOSP. Also, the thread doesn't ever "not include" sbrissen or others. It simply states the devs that use the buildbox that I have created. That is all stated in everything I have written. If you want to donate to sbrissen, that is your choice.
As basketthis has already said... this buildbox is not only limited to the devs that are currently using his server.
I would imagine if the resources like CPUs, RAM, and bandwidth allow for it... any dev that builds from source can use this option to build their source built roms. Even kernel devs such as Agat could use this option to build from source.
The sky is the limit to how many devs could take advantage of this, the only thing that is holding this back is contributions from the community. Instead of donating $5 to a dev, you could donate 3 or 4 and donate 1 or 2 to the build box fund... or you could just donate to the dev and the dev should donate for using the build box. Either way, there will be contributions to help keep the build box up and running.
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rovar said:
That's my point. Why is he not included into this?. Afaik he is the only one developing AOSP as the thread title indicates.
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Umm the point of this thread is for e4gt users to donate (if they want) to this build box so devs can put out their roms quicker and such. Nowhere does it say sbrissen isn't allowed to use it. If he wanted to use it I'm sure he could.
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Hmmmmmm how would one get this build box to try out? I kinda want to "tinker" with source building but my laptop sucks. The specs are horrible
Exit_Only said:
Hmmmmmm how would one get this build box to try out? I kinda want to "tinker" with source building but my laptop sucks. The specs are horrible
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You must challenge and defeat Chuck Norris at a game of thumb wars.
But, seriously, just trying to help out the badasses around here. If more resources become available, I will be happy to invite more.
I would make a donation to say sbrissen before i made a dination like this. This seems highly risky to me.
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Risky??? Your joking right? This is the type of thing the developers you are going to donate to will be using to build ROMs you are donating for...
This community has been scarred by people like SG...
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basketthis said:
You must challenge and defeat Chuck Norris at a game of thumb wars.
But, seriously, just trying to help out the badasses around here. If more resources become available, I will be happy to invite more.
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Its by invite only? No wonder. Fail.
If you can prove you are a good enough dev, you would get an invite to use this service.
How is that a fail? Are you expecting complete noobs to use this and waste resources? If someone wants to get their feet wet with development, run a virtual machine.
This service is for speeding up build times for experienced devs...
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Mattix724 said:
If you can prove you are a good enough dev, you would get an invite to use this service.
How is that a fail? Are you expecting complete noobs to use this and waste resources? If someone wants to get their feet wet with development, run a virtual machine.
This service is for speeding up build times for experienced devs...
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That's fine but it should be a service for everyone who wants to try to develop. I have a itch to learn but like I said I don't have a computer with enough hardware to build a source ROM with. So how can I "prove myself" to anyone. Either way I won't donate to something I got absolutely zero access too. That's just my 2 cents. I'm sure others feel the same.
This is the official buildbox support thread. Many of you are probably wondering what a buildbox is... I will try to explain without getting too far sidetracked!
---Purpose---We are trying to raise money in support of multiple roms/devs. This is not for one particular dev, nor is it one particular rom. Consider this a donation to the community in which you are a part of. This is helping the devs have more resources at their disposal, and ultimately, helping you have a better rom! Please read below for more of an explanation.
---What is buildbox?---For the open source community (CM10, Paranoid Android, CNA, etc), the roms are built from source. Doing this is not very easy, nor is it quick! It takes a lot of time and effort. I don't want to simply 'thank' the devs and leave it at that. So, I have made a contribution to the open source community. I have commited a powerful server to the devs that choose to use it for building open source roms.
Now you say, "So what... they could use their own computer and build roms..."
Yes, they could. However, look at this. For many devs (especially since ICS and above), the build times have increased significantly!! I'm talking 4+ hours in some cases! In steps the buildbox. The buildbox (in it's current condition) has cut most build times to between 20 and 30 mins.
Then you ask, "Why does that matter to me?" Well, the quicker the rom is done, the quicker we discover bugs, and, in turn, can FIX bugs! Think about it: If you were waiting in the lobby at the car dealership for some work to be done and it was going to take 3 hours to complete the work, you wait. You aren't getting anything done. Now, if you were able to speed the process up to 25 min, you could get much more done that day because you aren't stuck for over 3 hours!
---Why does this matter to you?---Maybe more choices of roms, maybe nightlies of your favorite roms, maybe less bugs! A small donation toward our goal will help keep the hardware current and allow for the devs to get the great benefit of a powerful machine. Hard drive space is quickly filling up, the RAM is over full utilization, and other hardware improvements can be made.
-=Current goal=-
buildbox project (must have flash).PayPal here:
Any donations and/or support are greatly appreciated.
Currently supported devs (a big thanks goes out to them and their work!): Phantomphreak53 (CM10 nightlies), kbizzle (Paranoid Android SG3 and SG2), and justlovejoy (CNA). These devs have great talents and more work to come. Support the project for them and for your own benefit.
PS: If anyone is looking for more info, has suggestions, or is interested in the project, feel free to pm me. All of the devs can vouch for me (even a couple not listed here). This is a legitimate request. We are counting on the open source community to keep this project going strong.
tl;dr, support open source development and make a donation to the development tools!
I use to donate to Developers, because they spend time developing instead studying, hanging with friends or family etc.
But to be honest, and judging about other threads by you. This sounds more like: "i want a new computer" than "lets help the community".
I hope to be wrong.
Yeah I'll donate when devs step forward using it. And there is a particular piece of hardware you can mention.. ..also couldn't were just use our if it doesn't exist try to start a opencl/direct compute gcc and so on? Hell air crack NG allows for networked opencl of 32 devices 1 high end graphics card is equal to more then 10 high end cpus
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csmasn said:
I use to donate to Developers, because they spend time developing instead studying, hanging with friends or family etc.
But to be honest, and judging about other threads by you. This sounds more like: "i want a new computer" than "lets help the community".
I hope to be wrong.
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Ok, basketthis first and foremost isn't trying to get a new computer. I personally use his box to build roms for two devices currently. If he hadn't provided the machine to turn my 4 hour build times into 30 min, I would be left standing with my d*ck in my hand, just trying to work with one device in a timely manner. A donation is simply that. So all I ask is that you don't come in here and bash him for just trying to give back to the community in his own way. It's his bandwidth and electronics we are using and over time, they will need to be paid for and upgraded. If you don't know the Devs or use their roms, that's fine but don't throw accusations around to try and deface a member of this great community.
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KBizzle said:
Ok, basketthis first and foremost isn't trying to get a new computer. I personally use his box to build roms for two devices currently. If he hadn't provided the machine to turn my 4 hour build times into 30 min, I would be left standing with my d*ck in my hand, just trying to work with one device in a timely manner. A donation is simply that. So all I ask is that you don't come in here and bash him for just trying to give back to the community in his own way. It's his bandwidth and electronics we are using and over time, they will need to be paid for and upgraded. If you don't know the Devs or use their roms, that's fine but don't throw accusations around to try and deface a member of this great community.
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And there is your Dev stepping forward
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If anyone has any questions or doubts, please click on the "chipin" link I have provided toward the bottom of the first post. There is more info there.
KBizzle said:
Ok, basketthis first and foremost isn't trying to get a new computer. I personally use his box to build roms for two devices currently. If he hadn't provided the machine to turn my 4 hour build times into 30 min, I would be left standing with my d*ck in my hand, just trying to work with one device in a timely manner. A donation is simply that. So all I ask is that you don't come in here and bash him for just trying to give back to the community in his own way. It's his bandwidth and electronics we are using and over time, they will need to be paid for and upgraded. If you don't know the Devs or use their roms, that's fine but don't throw accusations around to try and deface a member of this great community.
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You use his box. That cover it all.
Thank you. I was wrong and thats make me happy.
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The more understanding, the better. This tool is out there for the devs and we want to make it better so more devs can get involved. Who knows, it may be a dev that ends up developing for your next phone... The possibilities are endless with community involvement.
Received a donation. I've committed to match anyone else's donation up to 50 dollars. Would like to see this project continue. I will do everything I can to help. Can't wait to get my hands dirty on some upgrades for these devs! They deserve it!
Got the chipin/PayPal sites working together. The chipin site now reflects donation status.
Bump.
This guy is already hosting a build box for Kbizzle, which has made it easier to build his ROMs. I personally think this is well worth a donation, even if it's just $1...
Next time you donate to your favorite developer, send this guy a small donation to help keep the build boxes up and running.
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Thread Closed, links dead. OP can PM or report post if revival is necessary.
FYI - DerTeufel1980 had a solid kernel working fairly quickly and has since worked on the recovery mods to allow installing two ROMs, etc. He has been working through a few items such as USB only working for charging, etc. He is making progress though.
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DerTeufel1980 has a dual-boot kernel working for the Samsung Galaxy line (Captivate, etc). With our help, he has been able to purchase a Note II to work on and I have been updating this thread with donation promises.
The post is below. You can look at his stats (a recognized developer with close to 13,000 thanks) and know that he can be trusted. Just to have him working on the Note II will be a great addition. I started the thread on the AT&T forum and then added it in the N7100/N7105 forum when I realized he lives in Germany. He and I have committed a fair amount of $ to make this happen so if you feel inclined to help out then it would be appreciated.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=38121246&postcount=27
$200 loan for now. - RichMD
$25 - ceo.mtcl
PAID - $10 - rayandreas
PAID - $50 - mocsab
>=$10 - [email protected]
PAID - $29 - btpd21
PAID - $25 - Jamice4u
PAID - $10 - Shinkinrui
PAID - $5 - muqali
PAID - $10 - rlee008
$5 - kingP1n
$5 - deviusdragger
$5 - lovekeiiy
PAID - $15 CDKJudoka
PAID - $5 ristiisa
PAID - $10 Grant Barker
** After the kernel is working - $100 - PhxDroid86
** After the kernel is working - $20 - Markor13
** After the kernel is working - $15 - trevor7428
** After the kernel is working - $30 - kashortiexda
Update 5/25 - DerTeufel1980 has spent a while perfecting a universal kernel that works on AOSP and Sammy ROMs. The thread is here > http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2239453
He had to work out some bugs that prevented troubleshooting the dual-boot problem. However, he recently returned to the dual-boot problem and has solved it. He has been able to dual-boot with AOSP as primary, Sammy as secondary and vice-versa. He is still fixing some recovery issues, etc but is hopeful that the release will be available tomorrow. This turned out to be much more challenging than other phones but that is probably why nobody else has accomplished it until he had a device to work on...
This is great! Booting aokp and tw rom. Win win!
leprophotography said:
This is great! Booting aokp and tw rom. Win win!
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I want to stress that is a possibility (although probable I believe). DerTeufel1980 has already said that certainly you could boot 2 TW or 2 AOSP ROMs. That would be using the same kernel. He would have to swap kernels during the dual-boot process to switch between ROM types I believe but that probably could be done. If anyone is willing to donate to get him a device to work on, please just post here and I will update the OP.
Changed the OP title to ask if anyone is even willing to risk $5.00 for the capability.
are you ready ?
hepterci said:
are you ready ?
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??? Are you asking if we are ready to accept donations to buy a device yet? The answer to that is not yet. DerTeufel1980 can't afford to spend the additional several hundred dollars needed to buy a Note 2. If I can't gather enough donation promises then it will be pointless to ask anyone to donate yet. If you are willing to donate, just reply and I will add your name to the list. I'll even bump my promise to $75.00 if this thread will generate some more donations.
Re: Would you risk donating $5.00 for dual-boot capability?
I buy apps all the time. But not before they are developed. Seen too many projects dropped right after I pay.
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RonnieRuff said:
I buy apps all the time. But not before they are developed. Seen too many projects dropped right after I pay.
Sent By An Idiot With A Phablet!
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Thanks, but don't you think there is a difference in this case? Anyone can develop and app without the specific device. Nobody could successfully develop a dual-boot capability for a device they don't have to test with. People don't want to donate until after he completes the work. That will not happen if he can't get the device to start the work...
I'm really surprised people aren't willing to "risk" even $5.00 for someone who has already proven he could create a dual-boot kernel.
Re: Would you risk donating $5.00 for dual-boot capability?
RichMD said:
Thanks, but don't you think there is a difference in this case? Anyone can develop and app without the specific device. Nobody could successfully develop a dual-boot capability for a device they don't have to test with. People don't want to donate until after he completes the work. That will not happen if he can't get the device to start the work...
I'm really surprised people aren't willing to "risk" even $5.00 for someone who has already proven he could create a dual-boot kernel.
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Sorry... Seen to many people walk away after I donated.
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Re: Would you risk donating $5.00 for dual-boot capability?
RichMD said:
I've created donation threads to try to gather enough funds to get a Galaxy Note II for DerTeufel1980 who has successfully created a dual-boot for the SamSung Captivate (part of the Galaxy S line). After some interest from the AT&T community, it seems to have stalled. I didn't realize how opposed some people are to donation threads but I would ask the following:
If dual-boot is a capability that you would like to have, do a little research to make sure you feel that DerTeufel can be trusted and then consider donating to bring this capability to our device. If he can quickly/easily swap kernels then AOSP and TW ROMs, you could try both without the significant hassle of creating a nandroid backup and restoring every time you want to swap ROMs. I've copied the OP from one of the other threads below.
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DerTeufel1980 has a dual-boot kernel working for the Samsung Captivate. He has promised to create one for the Note II if we can get him a device to work on. I am updating this thread with donation promises. Once we gather enough for him to purchase a device, I will send PMs to everyone on the list requesting they use his "Donate to me" button. Who's willing to donate?
The post is below. You can look at his stats (a recognized developer with close to 13,000 thanks) and know that he can be trusted. Just to have him working on the Note II would be a great addition. I started the thread on the AT&T forum and then added it in the N7100/N7105 forum when I realized he lives in Germany. I will now add a thread in the Verizon community since that audience would also benefit from this new capability.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...2&postcount=28
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2154151 - International forum which would be the base for many custom US carrier ROMs
$136 - DerTeufel1980 will chip in 100 euros (roughly $136 currently)
AT&T Community
$50 - RichMD
$25 - ceo.mtcl
$10 - rayandreas
$50 - mocsab
>=$10 - [email protected]
$29 - btpd21
N7105 Community
Verizon Community
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When the time is right I'm good for a hunnit, let me know, and to be honest this dude needs to buy the device and then worry about return on investment, in the end isn't any other way against the rules
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PhxDroid86 said:
When the time is right I'm good for a hunnit, let me know
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Wow, $100.00 would be a great donation. I have been trying very hard to get this to work but it seems to be stalled. I just sent a PM to DerTeufel1980 to see what is the minimum he would need to purchase a device. I am considering taking "all the risk" for the gap between what people donate before the fact and what he needs. I would update the OP for each community to see how much people would donate AFTER it is working and ask him to send a certain agreed-upon amount back to me after he receives the funds. Yes, some would call me foolish but I really want the capability for a few reasons (work related, etc) and I am willing to risk trusting him.
Re: Would you risk donating $5.00 for dual-boot capability?
I can spare 10 bucks for the cause.
Would love to have a dual-boot Paranoid Android/Jedi Master setup!
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Updated totals in the OP
Ill motivate him for sure. $5 is easy, when and where
muqali said:
Ill motivate him for sure. $5 is easy, when and where
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Thanks,
When? - hopefully soon I will send PMs to everyone when enough has been promised to get a device.
Where? - He has a "donate to me" you can use - I will include the link to his profile when I send the PM.
count me in for $10. it would be great to trying a different rom while not having to mess with my main one.
Re: Would you risk donating $5.00 for dual-boot capability?
Pm me info as well I can do $5
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Re: Would you risk donating $5.00 for dual-boot capability?
I'm in for 5.
For science
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Thanks all. I was hoping we could get a bunch of $5 or $10 donations since they can add up fast. Updated totals in the OP.