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This is what happens...

http://teamwin-recovery.blogspot.com/2011/12/developer-burn-out-and-addiction.html
He says he will fulfill his obligation to finish our recovery. The point I'd like to make is that people need to backup off developers and just let them work.
This is happening far too often.
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I feel for him because I know what it's like from developing a MUCH MUCH smaller app, it gets very annoying.
At the same time though, I hate seeing these posts and how the devs let the community get them so worked up, we're all human but things like this you need to be able to deal with and know they will happen.
Hope the dev can enjoy his holidays and

He's definitely getting a donation from me when we get TWRP. No question.
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I feel like the ET4G users are more grateful after reading that. I mean, that ICS thread had almost or over $2k in pledges. I'm sure he will be happy with how our community, for the most part, acts and reacts after he releases.

Anyone else know immediately that it was Agraben as soon as they saw Teamwin mentioned?
I "kinda" feel for the guy, but he's always been very much of a "loves to dish it out, but can't take it" kinda guy.
When Team Alpharev or whatever beat them out for s-off on the HTC devices, he about had a meltdown.
He went full-hostile to pretty much the world for a while (on Twitter, at least), so much that the rest of Teamwin was doing the "we don't know this guy" dance for a bit.
Either way, though, I don't wanna wish anyone bad news, so I hope he gets it all worked out, because he's very much a hell of a developer, one of the best. (And it's very right-on for him to fulfill his obligations.)

He wrote they only received $500 on the hdmi port. I thought there was a bounty for that. I don't remember the amount but I think it was larger than $500. I will try to confirm but if it is true, than another bounty that failed.

cdszoke said:
He wrote they only received $500 on the hdmi port. I thought there was a bounty for that. I don't remember the amount but I think it was larger than $500. I will try to confirm but if it is true, than another bounty that failed.
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Which is why bounties need to be done away with completely. Some people seem to pledge just to see the amount get high enough that it will "light a fire" under the devs. Then, when the product is released, they don't follow through on their pledge, but use the product anyway.

I know that the other members from team win haven't been so active and we may be witnessing the end. Heck one of them posts about how much he likes his I phone

stangdriverdoug said:
I know that the other members from team win haven't been so active and we may be witnessing the end. Heck one of them posts about how much he likes his I phone
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Yeah, and he freaking loves it, and won't shut up about it.
(but he's more of a "graphics guy" than a real dev.....)
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Which is why bounties need to be done away with completely. Some people seem to pledge just to see the amount get high enough that it will "light a fire" under the devs. Then, when the product is released, they don't follow through on their pledge, but use the product anyway.
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+ a million to that.

mazook98 said:
Yeah, and he freaking loves it, and won't shut up about it.
(but he's more of a "graphics guy" than a real dev.....)
+ a million to that.
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Shinzul.... Who spearheaded the Wimax movement doesn't seem involved at all and he was part of the heart of the team.

stangdriverdoug said:
Shinzul.... Who spearheaded the Wimax movement doesn't seem involved at all and he was part of the heart of the team.
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Whoa.... I was referring to Shift.
I have no qualms with Shinzul, as I've never exchanged one word with him.
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Just got the Christmas HD wallpaper. Thanks for the info!
This will make my GF jelly belly of my phone lol.

naripsta said:
Just got the Christmas HD wallpaper. Thanks for the info!
This will make my GF jelly belly of my phone lol.
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wrong thread?
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I follow Agraben on twitter, I have noticed his tweets getting more and more crazy! I think part of the problem is everyone was riled up and ready for TWRP2 when he saw the communities excitement he began to add more devices to TWRP2. Daily he would tweet about adding another device whether it was a phone or tablet, his work load was growing. I began to see TWRP2 never being released due to endless device adding, lol. Then I saw the tweet where he wanted $/donations to pay for 1/2 the new Galaxy Nexus, I dont think that panned out to well and it seems he bought the device anyway. That would be enough to tick any one of our wives off! And we all know it the wife isnt happy, neither are we, lol. If he had dropped the recoveries he had for the devices that were ready 2 months ago, things may be a bit different. People might be riled up to send some donations that way, but the endless device adding got everyone down, myself included.

mazook98 said:
Whoa.... I was referring to Shift.
I have no qualms with Shinzul, as I've never exchanged one word with him.
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I was talking about shift also in my original post... I was just stating that also on the team Is Shinzul who has been really quiet. I'm not saying I had qualms about him ust that he has been quiet for a long time. He was really cool and gave updates on stuff he was working on.

cordell12 said:
wrong thread?
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I follow Agraben on twitter, I have noticed his tweets getting more and more crazy! I think part of the problem is everyone was riled up and ready for TWRP2 when he saw the communities excitement he began to add more devices to TWRP2. Daily he would tweet about adding another device whether it was a phone or tablet, his work load was growing. I began to see TWRP2 never being released due to endless device adding, lol. Then I saw the tweet where he wanted $/donations to pay for 1/2 the new Galaxy Nexus, I dont think that panned out to well and it seems he bought the device anyway. That would be enough to tick any one of our wives off! And we all know it the wife isnt happy, neither are we, lol. If he had dropped the recoveries he had for the devices that were ready 2 months ago, things may be a bit different. People might be riled up to send some donations that way, but the endless device adding got everyone down, myself included.
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Yeah, it's not like he's a lead chip designer for Nvidia or anything at his day job... (Oh, wait... he IS...)
Doesn't Nvidia pay their employees a good salary? I would think that they would, but who knows..
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mazook98 said:
Yeah, it's not like he's a lead chip designer for Nvidia or anything at his day job... (Oh, wait... he IS...)
Doesn't Nvidia pay their employees a good salary? I would think that they would, but who knows..
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I would think he brings in a good check, but thats still $750 two weeks before Christmas.

Whoops, wrong thread indeed LOL.

Its a fine line that many dev's have to walk; one side of them loves to work on new devices and the challenge of getting something to work on a device can be very intoxicating..On the other hand, it takes away from your personal life, and, eventually, the moochers, leechers, and the folks who feel they are entitled to everything and anything for free just because the registered of a web forum, drives away the creative, sharing folks who make the great software that we get to play with on our phones..
Frankly, even if he got paid for all the things he has developed for smartphones, it wouldn't make a differences, because, the first jerk bait, who complains about having to wait for an update, would just set him off again..
Any dev posting stuff on XDA, has to think about how they will deal with all the obnoxious ass wipers who seem to have overrun what used to be a fun, and exciting place to interact with others; its not just XDA that has this issue now, its pretty much every "Free" web forum that offers software and programs for anyone who can figure out how to register..
Maybe a "membership fee" type site, would help keep some of the worst, most obnoxious, douchebags out??

^ indeed.
Sent from the future.

Free to read with a small fee to post in Dev forums (free for recognized devs) would work for me.
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Bubby working on our phone? Seems not.

We had a bounty for bubby to get the money to buy our phone. And I remember there was one guy who (was awesome!!) donated over $200 as well as gave bubby a computer for him to work on.
I have been following bubby on his twitter and it doesn't seem that he's working on our phone. He's working every day but just not on our phone, not at all.
But, by simply looking at his twitter it's not entirely clear whether he is or not working on our phone. I hope it's just me that read it wrong.
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Several people confirmed that he's working on his Epic 4G Touch, not our phone. He has not posted a single twit regarding anything he has done / is doing / is considering doing for our phone. He has not been responding to my questions on twitter, and people have been saying he either dance around when asked about our phone or not respond at all.
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I know the concept that a donation is a donation and is not like you are paying for something, but...
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While he has not developed a thing for any phone other than his own Epic 4G Touch, he has been asking for donation for numerous other phones. We should probably interfere and refer the people in other forums (potential victims) to this thread.
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Just a thought, whoever donated, are you able to charge it back through your credit card company with a reason of "service not delivered"? If you are lucky maybe you can get your money back? I know it's a "donation" but bubby did promise in the bounty thread to deliver lots of stuff, he even said he already got ICS booted etc and played us with "here's a bunch of goodies coming up from me just donate to me and stay tuned" ****.

If your following him on twitter you already know the answer to your question.
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Lmao, how pathetic.
Hard lesson learned for those involved? Sure.
Kick in the balls from his part? Absolutely.
How is that not 100% theft? Atleast fundamentally.
To the laptop owner, has he sent that back?

By looking at his twitter it's not exactly clear whether bubby is or not working on our phone. Can someone else share some opinion?

mikeyinid said:
If your following him on twitter you already know the answer to your question.
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+1
There is enough hate in the world. Why can't we all get along here ...?

tweak. said:
Lmao, how pathetic.
Hard lesson learned for those involved? Sure.
Kick in the balls from his part? Absolutely.
How is that not 100% theft? Atleast fundamentally.
To the laptop owner, has he sent that back?
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Maybe he hasn't got around to work on our phone yet I hope?

mikeyinid said:
If your following him on twitter you already know the answer to your question.
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Sorry for my ignorance but what's the answer to my question? Can you please spell it our explicitly for me?

We have the same info as you, dude.
The thread you referenced: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1318854&page=8
And his Twitter. Ask him directly for a 'better answer' but, I think he's made it pretty clear he doesn't know wtf he's doing.
Thread question answered.

Wow.....well I think this is pretty messed up....
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wow this guys gone, he just got a free laptop and a brand new samsung galaxy s2.

an undesrieable leech...
Its sad but truthfully some can be misleading as we all know. What is done here is in fun hobby and practice...to donate is great and needed....but only after said item has been created...
Moral wise...f ya its wrong and ill never support his present or future work.
Reality .... he probably cares less and can only verbally be punished....I think much more in order such as ban of account or other....
To mislead and not give up what was given....well some can be gutter trash here but hopefully not to long........

513263337 said:
We had a bounty for bubby to have our phone. And I remember there was one guy who (was awesome!!) donated over $200 as well as gave bubby a computer for him to work on.
I have been following bubby on his twitter. It doesn't seem that he's working on our phone. He's working hard every day for sure but just not on our phone, not at all.
But, by simply looking at his twitter it's not entirely clear whether he is or not working on our phone. I hope it's me that read it wrong.
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He is not working on our phone... He is working on his personal device Epic 4G Touch
I know... Sucks

its not the first time he does this, maybe you guys should've checked this out:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=926461&page=2

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its not the first time he does this, maybe you guys should've checked this out:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=926461&page=2
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Wow. I'm definitely glad that I didn't donate. I'd only donate to devs that I can vouch for, like Faux, Slayher, etc. Hopefully Bubby didn't violate any of you guys who has donated. Maybe he's working on something big.
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I brought this up in his bounty thread and everyone doubted me. Real devs can get their own phone. Simple as that. Someone should ask luckyduck or something in these forums; claimed to be his "tester".
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I think its effed up especially after just reading what mickeycobra04 posted about other thread. **** is nuts well deja vu if u wanna get technical. And the crazy part is right when the s2 came out he made stock kernel tar the stock recovery and i think a few other things. He basically reeled everybody in so they would know he wasnt just a nobody and could develop a little then he says cm, ics, asop and that rite there was like music to our ears so we start donating and he stays active. Then after some time he gets his phone and a laptop! And posted like 2 times since. Now i know everyone has lives and **** like that but cmon bro its been a month maybe a little less. Bring something to the table man it aint cool.

513263337 said:
Sorry for my ignorance but what's the answer to my question? Can you please spell it our explicitly for me?
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at the risk of being a **** to a 15 year old kid, let me try to help you understand. if you go over to the fascinate/continuum forums and ask them about bubby, you will hear nothing good about the kid. he has been making promises to android users for a while now, and RARELY coming through with anything more than a system dump or a stock kernel here and there. i know its said that donating with expectations isnt donating, but in the android community, why do people donate? we want to see someone make **** happen. well, this kid is a talker and not a doer. i donated to help get roman his gs2, i was rewarded with jugs(kernel), and juggernaut(rom). in the future, people should do a little more research before they dive in and give a person(15 year old kid) money for a phone, or a laptop.

He is in the skyrocket forums asking for donations also. I hate to say it but I seriously think he is in the wind folks. Its sad because this will prevent people from donating to serious developers. I have a corporate T-mo account and we got 25 galaxy s2's as a promo and he begged me for one of them and I was very close to sending him one in the beginning but thank god my very smart wife told me I'd be crazy to send some kid that I dont know from adam a 600 dollar phone. Well live and learn and just hope that maybe he will still come thru. But not looking to likely. Hell team kang has released 3 roms since Bubby supposedly got his phone.

bhowanidin said:
I brought this up in his bounty thread and everyone doubted me. Real devs can get their own phone. Simple as that. Someone should ask luckyduck or something in these forums; claimed to be his "tester".
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bubby wont use a tester on anything "valuable". hes a gloryhound. everyone should follow his tweeter and see his ridiculous tweets. its comedy.
http://twitter.com/#!/bubby323xda

I think that those that whove donated should bomb the Skyrocket, Epic and whatever else thread Bubby frequents towards get the message across. Post the links of these threads that shows proof of Bubby not delivering what he claim he'd deliver and maybe he'll answer.
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XDA School/Message to staff and Students

Remember how in High School or College you would have to DO YOUR RESEARCH to find your information before turning it in to your teacher or professor?...So far in the past 12 months this XDA School Research Skill and Overall GPA has dropped. In this SGSII class of the school, we are bringing our GPA up, and now we are on a level thats "considered passing". I was a new student in this class about 2 weeks ago and everyone made me feel like I was at home, but the rest of the school im not to sure about. XDA school was the one everyone went to about everything Android. Now since the teachers and students are slowly turning in degrees, we are loosing a lot of our students and teachers to other schools. We cannot let this happen because this is where it all started. We have to start gaining the quality of our school back, our prestige is dropping.
So lets get started...
Instead of teachers having to spend extra time assisting students, students should learn to RESEARCH and Experiment on their own time. Teachers only volunteer at this school. No paychecks, pensions, workman's compensation, just breaks and retiremen. Teachers should help students more and explain things more in a detailed fashion. XDA School is changing so we have to change with it. Dont fight it, go with the flow and make it work for everyone. There has to be a line to draw in the middle, where students can help one another, troubleshoot, and have fun with the teachers. Im a teacher myself and comming up with lesson plans that will hold everyone in the class over until I write a new one is not easy. Sleep is lost, donations are good, but overall not good enough to deal with the stress in our personal lives because we all go through it. Competition is always present but thats no excuse for teachers to critique other teachers. We may not be together in reality but we are a community, so lets act like it.
:-D
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good luck. Popularity of this site attracts the people in school who just want to get by and have all the answers given to them. I can't see this thread going in the right direction. These threads just make things worse to be honest

jessejames111981 said:
good luck. Popularity of this site attracts the people in school who just want to get by and have all the answers given to them...
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to be specific
... on a silver platter and spoon fed
it's not just this section, it's all over XDA, all the popular devices are like that, even the new GN section

jessejames111981 said:
good luck. Popularity of this site attracts the people in school who just want to get by and have all the answers given to them. I can't see this thread going in the right direction. These threads just make things worse to be honest
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I just thought it more people were aware of the issues we would be able to fix them together. Ill just have the principle close the class down if students and or teachers start to bring it down.
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AllGamer said:
to be specific
... on a silver platter and spoon fed
it's not just this section, it's all over XDA, all the popular devices are like that, even the new GN section
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Thats such a shame, i have been around since android rooting started and being here on XDA was considered a privilege
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I miss people being go getters and trying to learn stuff themselves. I think everyone is willing to help a noob but only if they are willing to help themselves. That's what we have a lack of, people trying to help themselves.
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xsteven77x said:
I miss people being go getters and trying to learn stuff themselves. I think everyone is willing to help a noob but only if they are willing to help themselves. That's what we have a lack of, people trying to help themselves.
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The worse part about it is, the quality of the issues people report in threads. Most of the time they are "non issue issues" Meaning its not a bug in the ROM just a problem that they are having.
They will post their problem and hope for someone to get a fix for them and get upset when people flame them. The people who can fix the problem have no right to flame either. Fighting fire with fire has become way to common here. The people dont say things like "I looked online in such and such place but i dont understand what its telling me, or this method is outdated any updates on it", nothing like that, that shows they were putting fourth an effort in the first place. It was such a joy for me to research and learn because it led me to create ROMs and themes. I felt a lot better when I figured out how to fix my own problems and it made me a better Rooted android user.

I think te problem is "free stuff" attracts those type of people. Google has done a great thing with the open source stuff. I wish there was a system in place that encouraged organized companies to produce ROMs, granite that means those roms would be pay only and the current system doesn't work with it. You can choose to stick with the stock touchwiz rom OR you could pay to run aosp made by company X or you could download a free rom made by thursday. How much has this community donated to various devs in "hopes" they dev something good?
Android has blown up recently and people like to customize their phone. Old days of only tech geeks using roms are gone. People need answers fed to them. If they paid money for a rom they should be entitled to those answers given to them.

Agreed..
DARKSIDE...join us we have nice treats T989

jessejames111981 said:
I think te problem is "free stuff" attracts those type of people. Google has done a great thing with the open source stuff. I wish there was a system in place that encouraged organized companies to produce ROMs, granite that means those roms would be pay only and the current system doesn't work with it. You can choose to stick with the stock touchwiz rom OR you could pay to run aosp made by company X or you could download a free rom made by thursday. How much has this community donated to various devs in "hopes" they dev something good?
Android has blown up recently and people like to customize their phone. Old days of only tech geeks using roms are gone. People need answers fed to them. If they paid money for a rom they should be entitled to those answers given to them.
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Yea brother, i mean ill say yea again to that one. If people actually paid for me to deliver week in and week out id quit my day job seriously to work right here from home.

if you want money just have sammy start a thread for you

I was here from the start with the G1, granted out was a few months after the release, buy nonetheless I did my own research asked questions when I was TRULY stuck and solved my own problems by searching the threads/forums. People come in here (XDA) and "flame" one another for asking a question and folks that come in here creating threads and posts REPEATEDLY about the same topic. It honestly needs to be stopped and monitored more closely because all it does is clutter threads and makes it difficult for those trying to do it on their own.
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I haven't been here as long as most but since I joined when I purchased my evo it went from thank you to gimme gimme. Not to mention the flame fests,including entire threads filled with pics about the ensuing flame fest. Infractions should start being issued a lot more frequently and even to the point of issuing them to the members who post nothing questions over and over again and get in a tiff when they don't get an answer for "why is my phone crashing after I didn't wipe from cm7 to sense"anyways just wish it would go back to respect and appreciation.
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as ridiculous as it seems, Maybe their should be an entire thread dedicated to a Roms "Issues" - I know creating another thread means another one to view, but jesus think about how many times a market error question could be answered by the title of a thread there and the amount of pages it would save on any given rom. I know this is literally bending to the will of noobs who won't research, but if you can't teach them, at least try to confine them

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if you want money just have sammy start a thread for you
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???...I dont follow you.
I never ask people to donate. Hes doing a bounty to get Eugene373 here.
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hunterjay7 said:
as ridiculous as it seems, Maybe their should be an entire thread dedicated to a Roms "Issues" - I know creating another thread means another one to view, but jesus think about how many times a market error question could be answered by the title of a thread there and the amount of pages it would save on any given rom. I know this is literally bending to the will of noobs who won't research, but if you can't teach them, at least try to confine them
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I see what your saying but that defeats the purpose, if i create a market error thread, then theyll ask for just about everything, the flood gates would open right up. If people would stop being lazy then everything would be ok.
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jessejames111981 said:
if you want money just have sammy start a thread for you
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Lol
SGSII T989~ juggernaut v4.1~synergy v0.10

jessejames111981 said:
if you want money just have sammy start a thread for you
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lmfao 10char

_Thursday said:
???...I dont follow you.
I never ask people to donate. Hes doing a bounty to get Eugene373 here.
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Its an inside joke (a good one too) based on the amount of bounty threads he does and how quick he is to start them.

Reading this thread bummed me out. I'm somewhat new to all of this, and in the last couple of months have learned an INSANE amount about the android OS and how to make it "mine". I would have never been able to do so without the much appreciated help of all the knowledgeable people here on XDA. Yes, I agree, there are a crazy amount of duplicate posts, and pricks, and mindless idiots who for some reason have no issue posting a bash on a hard working dev for no apparent reason (f#& k those morons). Here is my question. What do you think of someone like me, who asks questions when he is stuck, and probably will continue to do so whenever he is hopelessly stuck, but always shows appreciation for valuable help received? There seem to be plenty of people here who enjoy helping noobs like me. I've helped a few, and it felt pretty good.
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Donations to developers

Let's get this thread going by listing donations we've made and to which developers. No need to post amounts as no matter how large or small your donation is, I'm sure the awesome devs will still appreciate it. The OP will be updated to list member names please be honest, we don't want a thread with fake donations. The devs for this phone deserve better than that! Thanks community.

Ah the vanity....
Well intended, I know, but...
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I think many would like to keep this private and see this as bragging. To me, it becomes about ego and false pride if you have to tell others about your charity.
But to each his own I guess.
I've given support to many in many devs in many different device forums, over the years because I appreciate the skill, time and work they put into it. Not large sums by any means but at least something when I can/I]. But I believe most devs do it for the fun of learning and tinkering. And then just getting some well deserved thanks is a huge thing (or is/was in my case) I know the donations are certainly appreciated and help give some motivation and cover expenses but some people just can't give all the time.
That's just my two cents - from an older guy who's been a tinkering with systems since when we actually had to write code on a punch card machine.

dang
my bad than people, it just seems to me that the majority of our devs are leaving so I thought this might help a few stay, or at least feel appreciated even though they are leaving. Lots of immaturity on these forums made a few leave, plus the s3...

I donated but next time I will think it twice. (I have my reasons)

Omar04 said:
I donated but next time I will think it twice. (I have my reasons)
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Why do you regret donating? Did something bad happen?
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wp7chris said:
my bad than people, it just seems to me that the majority of our devs are leaving so I thought this might help a few stay, or at least feel appreciated even though they are leaving. Lots of immaturity on these forums made a few leave, plus the s3...
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If a dev is in it for the Donations, Then why would you want there work any way. You do not get the best work from people that do it for money. Oh and just to let you know they are not getting very much and that is not the reason we dev. We dev because it is fun.

Though I've seen a lot of people post their confirmation of donation in an open thread, I choose to donate privately when I am able to give at all. Though I'm not able to give as much as I would like for the amazing work we are given, I hope my fawning adoration makes up for it.
Stupid thanks limit

Word to the wise. Never donate to any "developer" asking for donations before any rom/kernel is released. Ive kept my eye on the whole swamp goblin donation scam. That seems to happen alot around different sites. I would think a user who pulls a scam like that would be banned? Its gotta be against xda rules?
Edit: Just checked Swamp Goblins Profile, He hasnt posted anything anywhere sense June 21, 2012.
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wp7chris said:
Why do you regret donating? Did something bad happen?
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The Dev performed the disappearing act...

Swamp Goblin doesn't believe he actually asked for donations, I think it's a perception issue.
I understand Devs have real lives and don't get paid for what they do (aside from occasional donations) therefore they are beholden to no one for ETAs, however when you request help to get a specific phone and promise a product for it then you do have an obligation to at least stay present in the situation. That doesn't mean you have to have it complete but you do need to be active in letting people know what's going on.
Also I agree with a post made in another thread regarding this, if you know you are too busy to put full effort towards a project on which you asked for a donated phone, then you shouldn't have ever started the process until such time when you were unencumbered by so much other stuff. I have to say that people were incredibly tolerant with his lack of output for quite some time and should be acknowledged for that, it has only been recently that people have grown wary of his actual intentions and started to question his motives directly.
My only real issue with the guy (other than his lengthy absences from posting any sort of information) is that he once commented that he was struggling with the sense build so he was going to spend time working on another ROM for another phone and then return to the E4GT. I don't recall exactly where it was and it may have even been edited by now but at the time I felt something was off.
Initially many of us were excited at the prospect of sense and may have allowed that excitement to color our normal judgement, I was in on the initial push to help him find a phone but I was looking at ebay and places where he might pick one up with his own money. Nevertheless, bygones I suppose.
Now, with all that said, I would hope these few instances of possible scams don't discourage people from donating. My only advice would be to pay attention to the Developer's work, reputation, support for existing products and interaction here on the forums. When we donate we do so in good faith and I'm happy to say that with the vast majority of the Devs here, we are well paid in return.

Sorry guys, but this thread is not a good idea at all. Just got off the phone with Cleo (yea, I'm that old) and she says she sees alot of name calling, pointing fingers, and bickering in this threads future. So I have to go with what she says.
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Moderator EDIT...Paypal link and the original post contents removed, this is not in the spirit of XDA, nor is it appropriate as a proper "Bounty Thread", no one should have to donate anything to get anything here, work is done here in and for the spirit of development.

Idk if this will work out since you can't generally guarantee that if he buys a S3 he'll get a brand new one with the same issue you guys are having
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I KNOW exactly which phone he will be getting...(my wifes),so if people have faith then it will get done. and it will cost a lot less than people think.
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when my wife gets home I will take pictures of the exact phone (that Nardholio will be receiving) and myself to help ensure people that this is not a scam. by the way its the purple s3 Nardholio. hope you don't mind.

So are you giving him your wife's phone or selling it to him? If you are selling it to him, how much are you asking for the donations to cover? Was just curious where the donations came into play.

dazednconfused said:
So are you giving him your wife's phone or selling it to him? If you are selling it to him, how much are you asking for the donations to cover? Was just curious where the donations came into play.
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I think he is probably buying her a new phone (S3?) To replace that purple one and giving it to the other guy to develop on. If the story is true.
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Whiplashh said:
I think he is probably buying her a new phone (S3?) To replace that purple one and giving it to the other guy to develop on.
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That makes sense, I didn't even think of that.

I've communicated with him and believe him. I've even given him $5 even though the phone is for me lol
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Lets just say I have my ways of being a procurement specialist...and im the real deal. Its just that this is the first time I actually have something that I can contribute to android development and xda. I am the antichrist of iphone.
And with 5 bucks the ball is rolling. I know a lot of people have doubts but some people actually like the satisfaction it gives them to be able to do the right thing. And for even more proof give me a few minutes. I think im going to start doing screen shots to show where we are with donations (for the non-believers).

Sorry folks, thread closed...This was not a proper "bounty thread"
This is not how things are done here, see OP for edited info by me.
K.G. EDIT: Lying to the insurance company would be considered fraud and that has no place for discussion on XDA. Allowing threads to beg for money to pay the deductible would make XDA an accessory.