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Hi all, are there any Android donut ROMs for the HTC hero? I know there are some for some other android phone but are there any ports for the hero ?
If there were, you think it wouldn't show up? Have some patience, the device hasn't even been out for a month yet.
Sykow said:
If there were, you think it wouldn't show up? Have some patience, the device hasn't even been out for a month yet.
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There was no need for that kind of reply...
Sorry for asking.
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Sorry for asking.
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lol! well i too am just wondering why there has not been a rom for the phone yet!
Yeah i hear the "its only been out for a month" but seriuosly??? the magic had roms before that but just by looking at the hero forums there doesnt seem anyone to be working on cooking roms..
exactly my point minogue, i know it might be tough to make the ROMs but its not like it can't be done
Well the phone has been rooted already.
However many people rooted their magic and g1 to install the htc Hero rom. And I guess since we have an HTC Hero, developers are not interested in making roms or optiming the current HTC Hero Rom.
yea well I still dont understand why they wouldnt want to optimize the hero its supposed to be the best android phone yet wouldn't they want to play around with it and see what they can make out of it?
Well hopefully HTC will release an update soon. It's said to be released within next months.
yea at least the update is out soon so I guess well all just have to wait
as i have said before
i too find it very strange that no chef is on board with us hero users
as we all know the chefs like to come/be first.....and we have nobody
unless the HTC update is all we need
Yeah, i was kinda hoping Cyanogen would get himself a Hero and start optimizing the ROM to improves speed, along with maybe some extra Donut features.
But i think the problem with the Hero's Sense UI is that it's not open source and so you're not allowed to tweak or mess with it. Only the underlying Android is open source and so may be meddled with and distributed.
Cobblers! Windows mobile is not open source and that's been getting cooked for years!
The main reason i reckon is because we already have what everyone wants....that's why the roms are all adding Hero stuff to the Magic.
They'll be here soon enough, in the meantime, be happy with the fact that you have what everyone else wants...!
I believe that Paul from Modaco is going to be cooking soon.
He's already posted stock unbranded and branded ROM's and mentioned cooking up a ROM with new Sense UI stuff soon.
I hope it's True. Paul's bits on using recovery image has already got me rooting and doing nandroid backups etc (I supplied the stock t_mobile rom to him as a result)
I guess that most people (like myself) just have no need for an other rom. I can already do everything I want and I have only minor speed problems from time to time. So I think motivation is very low right now on the rom front. This of course will change with a new Android version or updates Sense UI. Until then I'll code apps instead of messing around with the rom.
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I guess that most people (like myself) just have no need for an other rom. I can already do everything I want and I have only minor speed problems from time to time. So I think motivation is very low right now on the rom front. This of course will change with a new Android version or updates Sense UI. Until then I'll code apps instead of messing around with the rom.
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Yep, nothing much out there yet.
If we do get people working on speed improvements/optimisations then that will be great. Back on my touch HD some of the roms were very slick.
Sense UI upgrades are main thing, along with new versions of Android itself. We'll probaly get them faster as rom's here than official upgrades
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I guess that most people (like myself) just have no need for an other rom. I can already do everything I want and I have only minor speed problems from time to time. So I think motivation is very low right now on the rom front. This of course will change with a new Android version or updates Sense UI. Until then I'll code apps instead of messing around with the rom.
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You wouldnt want to customize something that is allready very good? If I could I would optimize it so its even greater than It Is. But that's just me I guess other people dobt wabt to make something that Is great greater
I believe the reason there is no cooking going on is the fact that there is nothing to upgrade yet. The Hero ROMs that are available right now are the latest thing, there is nothing newer so there is nothing to upgrade or borrow from better ROMs. Once there are newer phones and/or ROMs the cooking should start itself
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I believe the reason there is no cooking going on is the fact that there is nothing to upgrade yet. The Hero ROMs that are available right now are the latest thing, there is nothing newer so there is nothing to upgrade or borrow from better ROMs. Once there are newer phones and/or ROMs the cooking should start itself
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Errrr NO. I've seen roms for magic that include a lot of the new donut performance stuff. so there is newer stuff out there.
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Errrr NO. I've seen roms for magic that include a lot of the new donut performance stuff. so there is newer stuff out there.
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The donut stuff came from a developer release by Google. Its not from another phone.
Can a dev port it over?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=686893
We don't want to be behind the CDMA Hero...
now that would be great, but tbh we've been behind the CDMA hero for ages lol
Arrgh! At villainrom they're almost ready to release a 0.1 version of Froyo for GSM Hero! But...COME ON! They keep saying they can't get the mic working...When on CDMA EVERYTHING works except for GPS and Camera (the same problems we had with the first 2.1 cooked roms). I really hope they decided to release an ALL-WORKING version...Otherwise...I don't know what to think...
No Devs want to work together.
So they always can not get everything working at the sametime.
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Froyvillaino.1 we have been waiting for since just after robin ported n1 FR50...Prepare to wait a whil elonger i think!
I am working on a Cronos Froyo build also. Fully compiled from the 2.2 sources.
I, I, I...Guys I really don't want to shoot out advices...But it wouldn't be so bad if you all share your efforts to create a unique solution a.k.a. ROM! I really believe in the team-work!
Check that:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=704561&page=6#post6972487
Teamwork!
mardurhack said:
I, I, I...Guys I really don't want to shoot out advices...But it wouldn't be so bad if you all share your efforts to create a unique solution a.k.a. ROM! I really believe in the team-work!
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I completely agree. It would be much better to work together in getting the hardware working and then to split off to do your own roms based on that.
Lots of devs = lots of features!
42turkeys said:
I completely agree. It would be much better to work together in getting the hardware working and then to split off to do your own roms based on that.
Lots of devs = lots of features!
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I second that
can i install this cdma rom on my gsm hero, without breaking it and use it in the netherlands?
samm000 said:
can i install this cdma rom on my gsm hero, without breaking it and use it in the netherlands?
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The rom it links to is FOR CDMA HEROS.
Your Hero is A GSM HERO.
DO NOT FLASH IT!
Never flash a rom if it's not for your phone. Sorry to shout but this is the No. 2 cause of bricking (Behind impatient users during radio flash)
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The rom it links to is FOR CDMA HEROS.
Your Hero is A GSM HERO.
DO NOT FLASH IT!
Never flash a rom if it's not for your phone. Sorry to shout but this is the No. 2 cause of bricking (Behind impatient users during radio flash)
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thnx a lot!!!
i'm happy you shout becouse i have be warned now
Here's hoping this will have the answer to getting the mic working...
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I completely agree. It would be much better to work together in getting the hardware working and then to split off to do your own roms based on that.
Lots of devs = lots of features!
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Teamwork means NO competition. Here its all about competition - who will be the 1st to release most stable, coolest, capable ROM on xda. Its like a gang wars.
edit: and I like it, have more ROMs to try
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Teamwork means NO competition. Here its all about competition - who will be the 1st to release most stable, coolest, capable ROM on xda. Its like a gang wars.
edit: and I like it, have more ROMs to try
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I like the competition, what I'm taking about is devs getting together to get froyo running, then splitting off to make their own roms.
I think the devs can better work alone and share their work so other devs can play with it and make things better. We're saying that a community rom is better, but we havent seen one? There are tons of official 2.1 roms here, who needs all those. A froyo rom is much more interesting and as you can see, the cdma guys are really far, and maybe you, devs, can port it. Good luck.
thing is - if nobody has gotten the mic working yet, then nobody will get it working if they sit together and try to figure it out.
I would think it's like that anyway.
I know that more minds working together are better than fewer. however the mic not working cant' be a simple problem if nobody has worked it out yet. I know that not all rom builders are actually programmers - many are just really comfortable with computers and with the linux os and so on. but still, with source code available, a programmer who's comfortable with that source code (and I acknowledge that I'm not - and I'm a middle aged senior software developer... but much of the android source I've glanced through so far is unreadable to me LoL...).. anyway, so if a programmer who's comfortable with that code could peruse it for a while they might well be able to solve the problem. But what I really expect is that it will take google releasing a working mic library for froyo for hero gsm piece of the puzzle somehow - maybe an internal google person building it for the community and releasing it anonymously, that has happened in the past I would guess.
so it could take time.
but maybe some genius with the android source like cyanogen will take the time and have the know how to solve the mystery. surely the hero is the #1 android phone still out there...
judging from the community here it seems really popular still.
and to think, I just got a hero a few months back (and one for my wife) because they were only $25 at future shop when we renewed our accounts and we wanted iphones but couldn't afford them LoL
if I'd known anything about android then I'd have been all over these babies without a second thought - instead I had to research and took a leap of faith that the future shop guy was steering us in the right direction (thank you future shop guy - or I mean, former future shop guy (he doesn't work there any more)!
cheers
Is there a stable Froyo with Sense out there, one based on the Evo's ROM cause I did flash a rom by avalaunch. But it was based on the desire. I didn't like that and it didn't seem as fluid. So my question is... Is there a Froyo with Sense ROM out there thats stable and based on the Evo? and if there is what features are not working (if any) thank you
So far, all the FroYo roms are missing ( at the very least ) the back camera & 4G. However DamageControl & Cyanogen should have working ROM's within the next few days. Cyanogen will be AOSP, but i think DC might be Sense UI.
I initially thought I'd want an AOSP rom but after trying them I much prefer Sense, mainly for the widgets. Lets hope DC has sense! Wouldnt that be a slap in the face to HTC devs who need until December to complete it.. and DC does it with 2 devs in their spare time?
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I initially thought I'd want an AOSP rom but after trying them I much prefer Sense, mainly for the widgets. Lets hope DC has sense! Wouldnt that be a slap in the face to HTC devs who need until December to complete it.. and DC does it with 2 devs in their spare time?
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Htc devs are in no rush and it's not due to be released in December but BY December meaning any time until then
Is there any time frame for when DC development will come out with froyo with sense ROM. I currently am running DC 3.2.3. If they release it will it be listed in DCupdater?
From what I understand Google will not let anyone release 2.2 until N1 has it for a while. HTC has no control over it. It is google's way of keeping the N1 atop of the phone ladder. The same will happen with the next version. Its google's game, we have to play by their rules.
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From what I understand Google will not let anyone release 2.2 until N1 has it for a while. HTC has no control over it. It is google's way of keeping the N1 atop of the phone ladder. The same will happen with the next version. Its google's game, we have to play by their rules.
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I don't think that's true... The source code is released so anyone can compile it whenever. That's the whole point of it being open.
Where did you hear that?
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Is there any time frame for when DC development will come out with froyo with sense ROM. I currently am running DC 3.2.3. If they release it will it be listed in DCupdater?
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I've been stalking the DC thread for the past few days & it looks like they're starting to wrap things up. They didn't give an exact ETA, but based off the few comments they have made, i'd guess within the next few days ( i would love it for this weekend ), but i guess we'll just have to wait & see .
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From what I understand Google will not let anyone release 2.2 until N1 has it for a while. HTC has no control over it. It is google's way of keeping the N1 atop of the phone ladder. The same will happen with the next version. Its google's game, we have to play by their rules.
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Well, not entirely. When Google is finished testing on their "standard" hardware (in this case, the Nexus One) they will designate a final version. Then, HTC needs to get hold of this final version and add support for any unique hardware or software that their devices have. Think of it like release candidates and RTM versions of Windows. PC manufacturers get hold of the release candidates and test versions so that they can develop drivers and make sure their devices all work with the new OS. Then they get the final version, tweak what needs to be tweaked, run it through bug testing, and then pass it along.
In this case, HTC has to get the final version, make sure all of their apps and drivers work, make sure it works on their phones, and then pass it to Sprint for *more* testing to make sure it plays nice with the network and performs well.
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I've been stalking the DC thread for the past few days & it looks like they're starting to wrap things up. They didn't give an exact ETA, but based off the few comments they have made, i'd guess within the next few days ( i would love it for this weekend ), but i guess we'll just have to wait & see .
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I am aware that for many ROMs the camera doesn't work. Will it be working DC's ROM? And will it have sense? Is there any speculations of certain features not working? sorry these questions but since you have been "stalking" their thread you would know this stuff more than other (atleast I guess).
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I am aware that for many ROMs the camera doesn't work. Will it be working DC's ROM? And will it have sense? Is there any speculations of certain features not working? sorry these questions but since you have been "stalking" their thread you would know this stuff more than other (atleast I guess).
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According to a Tweet from Damageless himself last night "finishing porting cameras to Android 2.2... getting close."
Also the ROM will include Sense w/ the option to disable if desired.
-kp
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According to a Tweet from Damageless himself last night "finishing porting cameras to Android 2.2... getting close."
Also the ROM will include Sense w/ the option to disable if desired.
-kp
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Thank you very much. Is there a approximate release date for the ROM?
I am confused about these android os's. I realize my G2 came with the 2.2 Froyo. This obviously is a no brainer. But, since I just got my phone setup the way I like it (for now anyway) with CyanogenMod 6.4, am I supposed to expect T-Mobile to update my phone automatically with the new Gingerbread? (I doubt that the G2 will ever see it as a T-Mobile OTA) From my reading and researching it seems the Gingerbread has some new tweaks, more game related tweaks. I guess they decided to update the software with new graphics tweaks by implementing a new graphics software (OTA) similar to my NVIDIA GeForce 130M with independent-stand-alone 1g memory (Yea, Right!).
What I want to get clear is; the Cyanogen Mod 6.4 is based on the 2.2 Froyo isn't it? Will the Cyanoge ROM work in conjunction with the 2.3 Gingerbread, if it does update to all are phones? Or, is the 2.3 the same as th Cyanogen ROM, (and/or) is it going to be suggested that we let the 2.3 update (if we do get that option to download in the future) load and have to go through the whole re-rooting process again to install another ROM on top of it; like the Cyanogen.
And last, Is there another ROM on board here that anyone might want to suggest or if the Cyanogen pretty much the best upgrade? I do actually like all the features, now that I have my Launcher Pro working on top of it.
Thanks for any information,
Paul Holmes
chevy383surfing
afar as an OTA from TMO, don't hold your breath. we may get something sometime Q1 2011, but in my opinion and experience with TMO, this will never happen. They tend to to bother upgrading OS' if there is no known bug or issues that hinders the basic use of the device....you most likely will have to look for leaks on your own.
Af for CyanogenMOD, I'm pretty sure that him and his team will be proting 2.3 into his ROM. I would wait maybe a moth or so and we should have full Gingerbread ROMS in our G2's.
As for ROMs, and which is best.....I'm very new to this, but the one name I have always heard off as great ROMs are the CM's. There are many out there, I guess you could play around until you find one that suits you. Also if you prefer Sense over vanilla look...just look around. What I found (works for me) is the CM6.1 stable ROM....I have no issues with it, it allows me to control what I need to control, and then some. Many of the other ROMS out there may be missing conponents that I find here that work for ie FM Radio....
Hope this rambling helps...
Yes! This did help. I think I understand the nature of google's android systems in conjunction with CM. CM just takes their os and does exactly what their name says. They mod it. Your rambling is very much appreciated!
Thanks!
Paul
chevy383surfing
Well honestly, considering this is tmobiles first huge flagship phone, other than the g1 which did get upgraded...I believe that tmobile will in fact do it. I mean within the first month the phone had an update to fix some bugs.
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 with Virtuous Sense.
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Well honestly, considering this is tmobiles first huge flagship phone, other than the g1 which did get upgraded...I believe that tmobile will in fact do it. I mean within the first month the phone had an update to fix some bugs.
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 with Virtuous Sense.
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True....but that had more to do with incredible amount of issues this phone had upon launch, and precisly being the flagship phone they had to react rather quick. I also think that it had to do with the amount of rturns they had to deal with during that period.
As for the flagship comment, I think the my touch 4g has taken over that role.
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But, since I just got my phone setup the way I like it (for now anyway) with CyanogenMod 6.4, am I supposed to expect T-Mobile to update my phone automatically with the new Gingerbread?
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Once you've flashed a custom ROM, you won't automatically get an OTAs from your carrier. You'd have to flash back to stock to get an official OTA. But Cyanogen will have a Gingerbread version before your carrier comes out with a 2.3 OTA anyway.
To give a general answer to the OP:
1) CM 6.1 is based on Froyo. There is no 6.4.
2) What Cyanogen and his team do is take the current available source code and redesign it to make it better. This means that the stock (shipping) ROM is not using its full capacity for speed, stability, and functionality, so CM pushes that envelope.
3) CM 6.1 will never be a Gingerbread ROM, but it is almost certain that CM X.X (probably CM 7) will be Gingerbread based, and point #2 will apply to that as well.
4) We'll see a CM 7 shortly after the Gingerbread source code (not the SDK, which is already available) is made public.
5) There will also be other Gingerbread-based ROMs available when the source code is leaked, which may have already happened, or will happen within the next few days. CM, as far as I know, does not use leaked source codes, but waits until it is officially released.
6) All of the above is based on my observations, and I have no inside knowledge, so it could be partially, or fully, false.
That is one of the most informative posts I've seen on the xda website! Little explanations like that help clear up confusion. Even over something this small.
Thanks,
Paul
Basically as the title of the thread says. How do you guys feel so far in regarding the development of the phone?
Do you guys think we shall be seeing more devs coming to us and building fantastic roms? What in regards when the kernel source drops? Or do you feel that the S3 will get the most development?
I for one i am really happy with how things have started. From reading our devs are the best in the business from the HTC side and we have some of the big names. But are more going to come or what would you guys like to see?
Want to say many thanks for our good devs in making our device better and i just hope the development carries on and we have more devs coming to us even though the S3 is out as well.
What you guys think?
I've got Insertcoin, that's all I need!
In all seriousness, once the kernel source drops, I'm sure show-p and faux123 will be all over it. I very much look forward to that!
Considering the very short amount of time the phone has been available to the public, I don't think we could ask for more!
As I said when I first got this phone, the devs we have here are a who's who of my favourites dating back to the Tytn II: LeeDroid, Baad, monx, VillianRom, Core Droid, Mike1986.... also some promising 'new' devs such as J4n87.
All is looking well.
Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk 2
Also really happy so far, but I'm curious about the kernel source. How long does HTC tend to wait until they release it? Can we expect it within a few weeks or are we talking months? Or might they never release it? :O
Also, does anyone know exactly what they're waiting for? Ie, why didn't they release it simultaneously with the phone?
Cheers!
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Also really happy so far, but I'm curious about the kernel source. How long does HTC tend to wait until they release it? Can we expect it within a few weeks or are we talking months? Or might they never release it? :O
Also, does anyone know exactly what they're waiting for? Ie, why didn't they release it simultaneously with the phone?
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Not sure how long it would take for them to release it my friend. Would of thought it would of been with the release of the phone but we can only hope like in a few weeks..
And yeah i am more than happy with the development so far. Many big time players in our forums. Just feel once the source drops then kernels will drop as well..Thanks guys for your opinions so far.. Do you guys feel that we might see AOSP roms one day?
Fruktsallad said:
Also really happy so far, but I'm curious about the kernel source. How long does HTC tend to wait until they release it? Can we expect it within a few weeks or are we talking months? Or might they never release it? :O
Also, does anyone know exactly what they're waiting for? Ie, why didn't they release it simultaneously with the phone?
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I`m sure Lee said in his thread that they had 90 days to release the source..i hope it comes sooner than that so the devs can rip it apart and build a better kernel.
From my understanding there's still a lot of unknowns surrounding the kernel and the proprietary drivers, not to mention s-off. I'm confident the devs are all over it like a cheap suit but HTC have done some things differently with the One series which has resulted in some intense chin stroking.
I think once these issues have been overcome (and it will be, its a when not an if) we'll see a lot more community development.
Personally I can't wait to run CyanogenMod on this beast.
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From my understanding there's still a lot of unknowns surrounding the kernel and the proprietary drivers, not to mention s-off. I'm confident the devs are all over it like a cheap suit but HTC have done some things differently with the One series which has resulted in some intense chin stroking.
I think once these issues have been overcome (and it will be, its a when not an if) we'll see a lot more community development.
Personally I can't wait to run CyanogenMod on this beast.
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium
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i am with you on that brother..i want to be running cm9 on this bad boy
HOX is the future at least for next 2 years.. HOX will eventually get all the attention the Desire has been getting till now.. Now the question is will the Desire lose it's attention?
Fyi, I've upgraded from Desire..
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Not sure how long it would take for them to release it my friend. Would of thought it would of been with the release of the phone but we can only hope like in a few weeks..
And yeah i am more than happy with the development so far. Many big time players in our forums. Just feel once the source drops then kernels will drop as well..Thanks guys for your opinions so far.. Do you guys feel that we might see AOSP roms one day?
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but the One X isn't running on a Full ICS kernel, It's a Gingerbread Kernel of sorts right?
(due to the first time using Tegra 3?)
If so, my theory would be that they're working on a Full ICS kernel and then releasing the source.
Of course, I'm a noob and I could be talking balls.
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HOX is the future at least for next 2 years.. HOX will eventually get all the attention the Desire has been getting till now.. Now the question is will the Desire lose it's attention?
Fyi, I've upgraded from Desire..
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i hope it gets more loving..i know it is only been a month but still..i am a very flash addict...can not settle on a rom..they are all freaking good
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but the One X isn't running on a Full ICS kernel, It's a Gingerbread Kernel of sorts right?
(due to the first time using Tegra 3?)
If so, my theory would be that they're working on a Full ICS kernel and then releasing the source.
Of course, I'm a noob and I could be talking balls.
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you are probably right..was reading it on another thread the same thing..kinda odd if you ask me though for them to do that...we can only wait and see
My One X is the first Android I have ever had and I am new to the whole development and custom ROM community. I have nothing to compare it to but what I have seen is quite amazing.
There is plenty of custom roms already, mike is pushing new versions of he's amazing rom every other week, and he also announced that they will be working together with faux to improve our one x experience once the kernel source is available. And what I have read about faux, i am pretty happy about the future of my One X