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Froyo + Sense ROM?

Is there a stable Froyo with Sense out there, one based on the Evo's ROM cause I did flash a rom by avalaunch. But it was based on the desire. I didn't like that and it didn't seem as fluid. So my question is... Is there a Froyo with Sense ROM out there thats stable and based on the Evo? and if there is what features are not working (if any) thank you

So far, all the FroYo roms are missing ( at the very least ) the back camera & 4G. However DamageControl & Cyanogen should have working ROM's within the next few days. Cyanogen will be AOSP, but i think DC might be Sense UI.

I initially thought I'd want an AOSP rom but after trying them I much prefer Sense, mainly for the widgets. Lets hope DC has sense! Wouldnt that be a slap in the face to HTC devs who need until December to complete it.. and DC does it with 2 devs in their spare time?

OneStepAhead said:
I initially thought I'd want an AOSP rom but after trying them I much prefer Sense, mainly for the widgets. Lets hope DC has sense! Wouldnt that be a slap in the face to HTC devs who need until December to complete it.. and DC does it with 2 devs in their spare time?
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Htc devs are in no rush and it's not due to be released in December but BY December meaning any time until then

Is there any time frame for when DC development will come out with froyo with sense ROM. I currently am running DC 3.2.3. If they release it will it be listed in DCupdater?

From what I understand Google will not let anyone release 2.2 until N1 has it for a while. HTC has no control over it. It is google's way of keeping the N1 atop of the phone ladder. The same will happen with the next version. Its google's game, we have to play by their rules.

eskomo said:
From what I understand Google will not let anyone release 2.2 until N1 has it for a while. HTC has no control over it. It is google's way of keeping the N1 atop of the phone ladder. The same will happen with the next version. Its google's game, we have to play by their rules.
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I don't think that's true... The source code is released so anyone can compile it whenever. That's the whole point of it being open.
Where did you hear that?

hved999 said:
Is there any time frame for when DC development will come out with froyo with sense ROM. I currently am running DC 3.2.3. If they release it will it be listed in DCupdater?
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I've been stalking the DC thread for the past few days & it looks like they're starting to wrap things up. They didn't give an exact ETA, but based off the few comments they have made, i'd guess within the next few days ( i would love it for this weekend ), but i guess we'll just have to wait & see .

eskomo said:
From what I understand Google will not let anyone release 2.2 until N1 has it for a while. HTC has no control over it. It is google's way of keeping the N1 atop of the phone ladder. The same will happen with the next version. Its google's game, we have to play by their rules.
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Well, not entirely. When Google is finished testing on their "standard" hardware (in this case, the Nexus One) they will designate a final version. Then, HTC needs to get hold of this final version and add support for any unique hardware or software that their devices have. Think of it like release candidates and RTM versions of Windows. PC manufacturers get hold of the release candidates and test versions so that they can develop drivers and make sure their devices all work with the new OS. Then they get the final version, tweak what needs to be tweaked, run it through bug testing, and then pass it along.
In this case, HTC has to get the final version, make sure all of their apps and drivers work, make sure it works on their phones, and then pass it to Sprint for *more* testing to make sure it plays nice with the network and performs well.

Veritas06 said:
I've been stalking the DC thread for the past few days & it looks like they're starting to wrap things up. They didn't give an exact ETA, but based off the few comments they have made, i'd guess within the next few days ( i would love it for this weekend ), but i guess we'll just have to wait & see .
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I am aware that for many ROMs the camera doesn't work. Will it be working DC's ROM? And will it have sense? Is there any speculations of certain features not working? sorry these questions but since you have been "stalking" their thread you would know this stuff more than other (atleast I guess).

hved999 said:
I am aware that for many ROMs the camera doesn't work. Will it be working DC's ROM? And will it have sense? Is there any speculations of certain features not working? sorry these questions but since you have been "stalking" their thread you would know this stuff more than other (atleast I guess).
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According to a Tweet from Damageless himself last night "finishing porting cameras to Android 2.2... getting close."
Also the ROM will include Sense w/ the option to disable if desired.
-kp

kperry1911 said:
According to a Tweet from Damageless himself last night "finishing porting cameras to Android 2.2... getting close."
Also the ROM will include Sense w/ the option to disable if desired.
-kp
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Thank you very much. Is there a approximate release date for the ROM?

Froyo

Why can't we have Froyo yet already???? What's the hold up? By the time, we get it... 3.0 will be around the corner...

Yours doesn't have it?

Yep. I have it
Sent from my Evo on on the Now network from Sprint
oh and duck Apple

I'm not talking about hacked custom roms.. I'm talking about offical release from HTC. I want Froyo that is fully function including 4g

you are lucky you didnt own a Hero then. It was outdated they day i got it(two days before launch). it came with 1.5 i believe, 1.6 was already out and 2.0 was announced a few weeks later w/ the DROID. THEN 2.1 one came out and Hero owners were STILL waiting. finally 2.2 was announced and a week or so later they pushed 2.1 to Sprint Heros.
long story short, dont expect it to come out anytime soon with HTC's track record. i would recommend rooting and installing cm6, it runs great sans 4G

Hairongreenfire said:
you are lucky you didnt own a Hero then. It was outdated they day i got it(two days before launch). it came with 1.5 i believe, 1.6 was already out and 2.0 was announced a few weeks later w/ the DROID. THEN 2.1 one came out and Hero owners were STILL waiting. finally 2.2 was announced and a week or so later they pushed 2.1 to Sprint Heros.
long story short, dont expect it to come out anytime soon with HTC's track record. i would recommend rooting and installing cm6, it runs great sans 4G
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I'm confused. I thought cm6 has the known issues for 4g.

jefftse said:
I'm confused. I thought cm6 has the known issues for 4g.
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long story short, dont expect it to come out anytime soon with HTC's track record. i would recommend rooting and installing cm6, it runs great sans 4G
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"without 4G"
HTC has announced 2.2 will roll out by December. If you want it that bad, i suggest trying out CyanogenMod. I never had 4G coverage around me, but after playing around with it, i would never go back to a Sense-based 2.1 ROM.

Veritas06 said:
"without 4G"
HTC has announced 2.2 will roll out by December. If you want it that bad, i suggest trying out CyanogenMod. I never had 4G coverage around me, but after playing around with it, i would never go back to a Sense-based 2.1 ROM.
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Cyanogen's mod, while amazingly awesome, has problems. There are missing features, inconsistencies between what works and what doesnt from user to user, and it's AOSP.
HTC has to make EVERYTHING work for EVERYONE all the while porting over their sense UI. All of their apps and widgets need to work on Froyo. It needs to be stable. This sort of thing realistically can take months to perfect. So don't be butthurt when you don't get it til Christmas.
I personally can't stand Sense... or any other UI put on top of android. But as long as I can root and boot up custom roms, I'm a happy camper.

uhh isn't google suppose to be the one releasing froyo since they are the makers of android os not htc? i thought htc was just the hardware

google only releases it for nexus one
they then release froyo source then hardware makers like htc and motorola use the source along to build their versions with either sense or blur

Now I can see how so many people are confused.
This isn't a simple phone, it is complex and there are many hands in the cookie jar. Please do some research about your phone, and who makes what, and you will realize it is far more complicated than "Froyo is out, how come my phone doesn't have it."

I'm very happy with the Froyo I already have. I see 4G as a totally useless feature due to its extreme battery drainage.

Bielinsk said:
Now I can see how so many people are confused.
This isn't a simple phone, it is complex and there are many hands in the cookie jar. Please do some research about your phone, and who makes what, and you will realize it is far more complicated than "Froyo is out, how come my phone doesn't have it."
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Uhh mayb not everyone has the time to research the whole history/background of their phone as you do...like me i switch phones every 2 months that means i'd be doing more research on my phones history then using the damn thing.

youngdhillon said:
Uhh mayb not everyone has the time to research the whole history/background of their phone as you do...like me i switch phones every 2 months that means i'd be doing more research on my phones history then using the damn thing.
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Then thinking you can come into a development forum and post a question that should be common knowledge to anyone tinkering at all in Android is just lazy.
If you switch phones every two months, then what do you care about Froyo, or even learning what your phone can do anyway...
When I make a purchase, I find out what I am buying, if it suits my needs, what limitations it has, what support it has etc. I call that making an "informed" decision.
I don't just walk into the story and buy the pretty one without knowing the above. Or else I would have an iPhone and wouldn't care about what I can do with it.
This was a lazy question posted by someone that hasn't done any reading about their phone or they would see what has to be done to get an Official Froyo build.

basically,
Froyo (aka: Android 2.2) has been released by it's maker. it's maker is Google. HTC gets licensing to install the OS on it's phones. now, when HTC first started working with Android...android was..well...it was lacking...it was lacking a fair bit. so the HTC devs put some 'Sense' onto android to make it something that the nerds can bring to their corporate executives. (cause if we nerds can't sell the boss on how cool this is...then i don't get to play it.) meanwhile, Google is trying to turn Android into a serious market contender. and its going up against some very mature code. this has a side effect of causing Google to release v1.5, v1.6, v2.1 and v2.2 rather close to each other. this is not a sustainable pace of release...it will piss everyone off. thankfully Froyo supposedly will be able to bridge us over until v3.0. at which point google has said they will proceed with a much slower version relase of Android.
Sense is not needed like it used to be. however, it'll prolly be around for a while. htc has said they will release froyo onto the evo but that is not a priority for them...the evo is yesterdays product so its more important getting the upcoming devices ready for market. perhaps the HTC/Sprint sanctioned Android 2.2 will be released by the end of the 4th quarter (or so they say).
on the good note...CM6 is rather nice. even without having 4G running yet. but really, how often do need to turn on the 4G radio? and they will get it working before long.
i must also agree w/ Bielinsk on this one....
Bielinsk Originally Posted by youngdhillon
This was a lazy question posted by someone that hasn't done any reading about their phone or they would see what has to be done to get an Official Froyo build.
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This may be a little off topic, but if I root my EVO what ROM should I use if I want Froyo and Sense?

kevinb99 said:
This may be a little off topic, but if I root my EVO what ROM should I use if I want Froyo and Sense?
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Check out Avalaunchmods Froyo ROM with Sense. He released an RC for it today and hopes to have a couple of little issues fixed tonight. He has a Sense and no-Sense ROM available. He's put a lot of work into them and i'll be checking out the Sense ROM for sure tonight. Probably bounce back and forth between the CM6 that i'm using now and Ava's Sense ROM.

kevinb99 said:
This may be a little off topic, but if I root my EVO what ROM should I use if I want Froyo and Sense?
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I respect your desire for Sense, however, I see no Sense in it.

Bielinsk said:
Then thinking you can come into a development forum and post a question that should be common knowledge to anyone tinkering at all in Android is just lazy.
If you switch phones every two months, then what do you care about Froyo, or even learning what your phone can do anyway...
When I make a purchase, I find out what I am buying, if it suits my needs, what limitations it has, what support it has etc. I call that making an "informed" decision.
I don't just walk into the story and buy the pretty one without knowing the above. Or else I would have an iPhone and wouldn't care about what I can do with it.
This was a lazy question posted by someone that hasn't done any reading about their phone or they would see what has to be done to get an Official Froyo build.
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maybe because all the phones i buy are android os...and you really have way too much time on you're hand to flame someone over such a little thing...all i asked was "isn't froyo suppose to be released by google and not htc" if you don't wana answer it then leave it alone...noone wants to hear your history crap...Noone wants to know how you read every nutrient fact before buying milk or read every little thing that's on the charging adapter...maybe you have time all the time in the world to do that and all the power to you but not everyone is like...we actually have a life and don't learn the history of every little thing we purchase...and fyi forums are made to ask questions and to inform each other...so if you don't like someones question instead of flaming simply don't read it and move on.

[Q] Can someone clear up some confusion? About Gingerbread

I am confused about these android os's. I realize my G2 came with the 2.2 Froyo. This obviously is a no brainer. But, since I just got my phone setup the way I like it (for now anyway) with CyanogenMod 6.4, am I supposed to expect T-Mobile to update my phone automatically with the new Gingerbread? (I doubt that the G2 will ever see it as a T-Mobile OTA) From my reading and researching it seems the Gingerbread has some new tweaks, more game related tweaks. I guess they decided to update the software with new graphics tweaks by implementing a new graphics software (OTA) similar to my NVIDIA GeForce 130M with independent-stand-alone 1g memory (Yea, Right!).
What I want to get clear is; the Cyanogen Mod 6.4 is based on the 2.2 Froyo isn't it? Will the Cyanoge ROM work in conjunction with the 2.3 Gingerbread, if it does update to all are phones? Or, is the 2.3 the same as th Cyanogen ROM, (and/or) is it going to be suggested that we let the 2.3 update (if we do get that option to download in the future) load and have to go through the whole re-rooting process again to install another ROM on top of it; like the Cyanogen.
And last, Is there another ROM on board here that anyone might want to suggest or if the Cyanogen pretty much the best upgrade? I do actually like all the features, now that I have my Launcher Pro working on top of it.
Thanks for any information,
Paul Holmes
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afar as an OTA from TMO, don't hold your breath. we may get something sometime Q1 2011, but in my opinion and experience with TMO, this will never happen. They tend to to bother upgrading OS' if there is no known bug or issues that hinders the basic use of the device....you most likely will have to look for leaks on your own.
Af for CyanogenMOD, I'm pretty sure that him and his team will be proting 2.3 into his ROM. I would wait maybe a moth or so and we should have full Gingerbread ROMS in our G2's.
As for ROMs, and which is best.....I'm very new to this, but the one name I have always heard off as great ROMs are the CM's. There are many out there, I guess you could play around until you find one that suits you. Also if you prefer Sense over vanilla look...just look around. What I found (works for me) is the CM6.1 stable ROM....I have no issues with it, it allows me to control what I need to control, and then some. Many of the other ROMS out there may be missing conponents that I find here that work for ie FM Radio....
Hope this rambling helps...

Yes! This did help. I think I understand the nature of google's android systems in conjunction with CM. CM just takes their os and does exactly what their name says. They mod it. Your rambling is very much appreciated!
Thanks!
Paul
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Well honestly, considering this is tmobiles first huge flagship phone, other than the g1 which did get upgraded...I believe that tmobile will in fact do it. I mean within the first month the phone had an update to fix some bugs.
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 with Virtuous Sense.

PatrickHuey said:
Well honestly, considering this is tmobiles first huge flagship phone, other than the g1 which did get upgraded...I believe that tmobile will in fact do it. I mean within the first month the phone had an update to fix some bugs.
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 with Virtuous Sense.
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True....but that had more to do with incredible amount of issues this phone had upon launch, and precisly being the flagship phone they had to react rather quick. I also think that it had to do with the amount of rturns they had to deal with during that period.
As for the flagship comment, I think the my touch 4g has taken over that role.
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chevy383surfing said:
But, since I just got my phone setup the way I like it (for now anyway) with CyanogenMod 6.4, am I supposed to expect T-Mobile to update my phone automatically with the new Gingerbread?
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Once you've flashed a custom ROM, you won't automatically get an OTAs from your carrier. You'd have to flash back to stock to get an official OTA. But Cyanogen will have a Gingerbread version before your carrier comes out with a 2.3 OTA anyway.

To give a general answer to the OP:
1) CM 6.1 is based on Froyo. There is no 6.4.
2) What Cyanogen and his team do is take the current available source code and redesign it to make it better. This means that the stock (shipping) ROM is not using its full capacity for speed, stability, and functionality, so CM pushes that envelope.
3) CM 6.1 will never be a Gingerbread ROM, but it is almost certain that CM X.X (probably CM 7) will be Gingerbread based, and point #2 will apply to that as well.
4) We'll see a CM 7 shortly after the Gingerbread source code (not the SDK, which is already available) is made public.
5) There will also be other Gingerbread-based ROMs available when the source code is leaked, which may have already happened, or will happen within the next few days. CM, as far as I know, does not use leaked source codes, but waits until it is officially released.
6) All of the above is based on my observations, and I have no inside knowledge, so it could be partially, or fully, false.

That is one of the most informative posts I've seen on the xda website! Little explanations like that help clear up confusion. Even over something this small.
Thanks,
Paul

[Q] I rooted my G2. . . now what?

Well, it's officially been two months since I got my G2. What else is there left for me to do?
- I've already got SIM Unlock, superCID, and radio S-OFF.
- I've already got CM7 Nightly 92 w/ Pershoot's latest Gingerbread kernel.
- I've already got backups of Virtuous, Virtuous G-Lite, and CM7.
- I've already installed Ubuntu 9.10 (Karmic Koala) and set up lxde.
- I've already overclocked and underclocked my CPU.
What else is there left for me to do? Can I dual-boot between different mobile operating system platforms (i.e. Symbian^3/Maemo 5, Windows Mobile, HP webOS/Palm OS, etc.)? Can I do ANYTHING else other than flash a ROM/Kernel and overclock? Or is this it?

You have done pretty much everything there is to. The next step is start cooking up your own stuff. I'm guessing you all ready have adb working. You can download apk manager http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=695701 and start doing some themeing of your own or port some themes for your favourite roms.
And if your feeling really adventurous have a go at building your own roms, there is a really easy to use rom kitchen here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=633246
If your computer is up to it you could try building cm from source have a look at the cm wiki http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=Building_from_source
I don't think there is anyway to use any of the other OS's you metioned. But some one is working on a project to dual boot android roms, the concept is awesome it would be cool to dual boot between sense and CM, have a look here for more info http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=847423 this is a WIP though
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cjward23 said:
You have done pretty much everything there is to. The next step is start cooking up your own stuff. I'm guessing you all ready have adb working. You can download apk manager http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=695701 and start doing some themeing of your own or port some themes for your favourite roms.
And if your feeling really adventurous have a go at building your own roms, there is a really easy to use rom kitchen here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=633246
If your computer is up to it you could try building cm from source have a look at the cm wiki http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=Building_from_source
I don't think there is anyway to use any of the other OS's you metioned. But some one is working on a project to dual boot android roms, the concept is awesome it would be cool to dual boot between sense and CM, have a look here for more info http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=847423 this is a WIP though
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You serious?
This is all I can do?
****!!!!! I should've gone with an HD2.
I'm already cooking up a custom ROM.
punjabiM0D? It's in my signature.
You gotta be kidding me. So you're telling me there's no way I can get Maemo/Symbian^3/webOS on my phone as a dual-boot? Is there at least a ROM of Touchwiz or even MOTOBLUR? I'm sick and tired of HTC Sense.

On the xda app so can't see your Sig. Siulmagic did do a droid x port http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1051229 so you can give motoblur a try.
The HD2 is the xda king everything seems to work on it. Our lowly G2/DZ are not in the same leauge.
It may be possible to port some of the OS's you mentioned but i dont believe anyone is curently work on them. But i would love to be proved wrong.
How is your custom rom coming? If you need anyone to test I'm all ways happy to help. I have a really quiet job which provides me with a lot of spare time and a decent internet connection.
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Windows Phone 7 is a closed platform, so its pretty close to impossible to port it to other platforms, in my understanding. I believe the only reason HD2 can run it, is because MS actually developed a WP7 version for HD2. As far as the old Windows Mobile versions, its obsolete and a pile, and the only reason to run it, is if you need to run some legacy software. Similarly, Symbian is all but dead at this point, as Nokia moves to WP7.

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Windows Phone 7 is a closed platform, so its pretty close to impossible to port it to other platforms, in my understanding. I believe the only reason HD2 can run it, is because MS actually developed a WP7 version for HD2. As far as the old Windows Mobile versions, its obsolete and a pile, and the only reason to run it, is if you need to run some legacy software. Similarly, Symbian is all but dead at this point, as Nokia moves to WP7.
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It sounds make sense to me
I just wonder my old Blackstone can't run android while it has winmo?
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I just wonder my old Blackstone can't run android while it has winmo?
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Not too familiar with the Blackstone, but probably just a matter of developer interest. The Blackstone seems to have pretty similar specs to my old Touch Pro 2 (in terms of CPU and memory), and the TP2 does run Android. Although the TP2 Android project was pretty slow and laggy when I last played with it in December or so (but it looks like a lot more work has been done on the project).

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Windows Phone 7 is a closed platform, so its pretty close to impossible to port it to other platforms, in my understanding. I believe the only reason HD2 can run it, is because MS actually developed a WP7 version for HD2. As far as the old Windows Mobile versions, its obsolete and a pile, and the only reason to run it, is if you need to run some legacy software. Similarly, Symbian is all but dead at this point, as Nokia moves to WP7.
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This is a bunch of ****!
I traded in my iPhone 4 for a G2, and I've already reached the end of the damn world in less than two months? Bull-****!!!!!!!
So not even another Linux-based operating system like Symbian^3, Maemo, or webOS can be installed on my G2?

Its a phone, and its designed to be used with its native OS. Not for loading other OSes willy-nilly, for your enjoyment.
Even if you could load other OSes onto it, so what? Would that radically change your smartphone experience, and what you do with you phone day to day? Not really.

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Its a phone, and its designed to be used with its native OS. Not for loading other OSes willy-nilly, for your enjoyment.
Even if you could load other OSes onto it, so what? Would that radically change your smartphone experience, and what you do with you phone day to day? Not really.
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Oh well pardon me for trying to make the most out of this thing.
Not even a ROM of Touchwiz or even MOTOBLUR?
Well then Mr. Know-it-all, What else is there left for me to do? I'm bored, I'm locked in a two-year agreement with a company that has spotty service, and I've already done nearly everything there is to do in the rooting universe.
Can YOU come up with anything else to do? What would you do if you were in my situation?

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Oh well pardon me for trying to make the most out of this thing.
Not even a ROM of Touchwiz or even MOTOBLUR?
Well then Mr. Know-it-all, What else is there left for me to do? I'm bored, I'm locked in a two-year agreement with a company that has spotty service, and I've already done nearly everything there is to do in the rooting universe.
Can YOU come up with anything else to do? What would you do if you were in my situation?
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Well for starters you could settle down and control your compulsiveness to jack with your phone. Android is probably the best OS out there, no reason to port to an inferior one. You are the first I have heard that has wanted a port to all these other variances. Most others are happy with the Android OS and like the custom ROMs and ways we can customize our devices already.
My advice to you... find a well paying job, squander all your money with buying yourself a brand new phone every month or two without contract. Maybe port all this other crap yourself. You seem to complain a lot, so intead of doing that, make your own ports and ROMs. That oughta make you happy

you could download eclips and the android sdk start making your own apps
you could try and port touchWiz or motoBlur to your phone your self
i beleave there is a port for MeeGo for our phone but is is far to slow to do any thing on
EDIT: and by the way your coming over a a bit of a **** when people are trying to help you

teh5abiking said:
Oh well pardon me for trying to make the most out of this thing.
Not even a ROM of Touchwiz or even MOTOBLUR?
Well then Mr. Know-it-all, What else is there left for me to do? I'm bored, I'm locked in a two-year agreement with a company that has spotty service, and I've already done nearly everything there is to do in the rooting universe.
Can YOU come up with anything else to do? What would you do if you were in my situation?
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I don't really know what you are expecting, its a phone. how much more could you want it do to? compare it a iPhone, then you would be limited. If your desperate for a Touchwiz or Motoblur Rom, port it your self. The reason why these ROM's haven't been done is because there not rated very highly particularly Motoblur.
You have a great phone with good dev support. appreciate it .

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Well for starters you could settle down and control your compulsiveness to jack with your phone. Android is probably the best OS out there, no reason to port to an inferior one. You are the first I have heard that has wanted a port to all these other variances. Most others are happy with the Android OS and like the custom ROMs and ways we can customize our devices already.
My advice to you... find a well paying job, squander all your money with buying yourself a brand new phone every month or two without contract. Maybe port all this other crap yourself. You seem to complain a lot, so intead of doing that, make your own ports and ROMs. That oughta make you happy
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I'm not THAT impulsive.
I took my meds. (ADHD can do that to a kid)
I just feel trapped inside Google, Android, and HTC.
If Android really is as open-source as Google claims it to be, why do I feel so restricted?

cjward23 said:
I don't really know what you are expecting, its a phone. how much more could you want it do to? compare it a iPhone, then you would be limited. If your desperate for a Touchwiz or Motoblur Rom, port it your self. The reason why these ROM's haven't been done is because there not rated very highly particularly Motoblur.
You have a great phone with good dev support. appreciate it .
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I'm grateful for that much.
I just wanna figure out what else there is to do. Ironically, I feel restricted in an open-source operating system.

teh5abiking said:
I'm grateful for that much.
I just wanna figure out what else there is to do. Ironically, I feel restricted in an open-source operating system.
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dude, what else do you want to do? I guess that's a good question to ask. There are literary tons of stuff to do with your phone. There are numerous ports with this phone you can try. You wanna play dual core games like samuarai vengeance 2 eventhough you don't have dual core? Go right ahead with chainfire3d. You can theme your phone how ever you want with icons, colors, ANYTHING. What other operating system allows you to do this? How would you be better off with ANY other OS? You can easily flash themes and such to make it looks like touchwiz, or motoblur. you can even make it look like honeycomb for goodness sake. Fool around with the UOT kitchen and cook up some fancy looking themes are icons.
I suggest you do a little searching around on xda, OTHER than the G2 thread because there are tons of stuff that apply to alot of phones that aren't just found in that device's forum. Its dumb for you to judge the one OS that actually ALLOWS you to do whatever you want to it.
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PEANUT BUTTA JELLY TIME!!! GIVE SOMEBODY A HIGH 5..THEN SHOW THEM UR AWESOME ROM
pimped out g2

You could take a screw driver to your phone.. open it into pieces.. I don't think it would be so restricted anymore.

teh5abiking said:
Well then Mr. Know-it-all, What else is there left for me to do?
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Giving my opinion does not make me a know-it-all, and nothing I said implies that I think I know more than you. You're going to come in here throwing around foul language and calling people names, and still expect people to give you ideas?
You seem fixated on just loaded different OSes, and just don't want to accept the answers people are giving you. People have already gave tons of suggestions. But you aren't interested in listening.
MotoBlur and TouchWiz are trash, anyway. Not much more than cosmetic changes to the launcher, and other general theming. You can easily mess around with those things yourself, as several others have already suggested.

redpoint73 said:
Giving my opinion does not make me a know-it-all, and nothing I said implies that I think I know more than you. You're going to come in here throwing around foul language and calling people names, and still expect people to give you ideas?
You seem fixated on just loaded different OSes, and just don't want to accept the answers people are giving you. People have already gave tons of suggestions. But you aren't interested in listening.
MotoBlur and TouchWiz are trash, anyway. Not much more than cosmetic changes to the launcher, and other general theming. You can easily mess around with those things yourself, as several others have already suggested.
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Already working on a port for them -_-
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[Q] is it just me or..

Has development slowed down for our device? Since lollipop got released, there hasn't been many new updates for existing roms or new roms. I know, if I want it, I should develop a rom myself. But, I've never been good at program languages so, I depend on the fine folks here on XDA. I appreciate all their efforts. But, again I ask, has development slowed?

The device is aging, M9 is supposed to be revealed tomorrow. I'm not even sure if they will make the 5.1 Android for M8, and that is much needed, seeing how buggy Lollipop is. I seriously regret updating, I wish I had enough sense to stay wit KitKat, that worked great on my phone.

PresidentCupcake said:
Has development slowed down for our device? Since lollipop got released, there hasn't been many new updates for existing roms or new roms. I know, if I want it, I should develop a rom myself. But, I've never been good at program languages so, I depend on the fine folks here on XDA. I appreciate all their efforts. But, again I ask, has development slowed?
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ViperOneM8 has been updated three times in the last two weeks, with another update to come out in the next few days. Although two of them mostly addressed bug fixes, there were also new features added.

There has been a couple of lollipop nightly builds for this device. To be honest, I don't really notice a slowdown of development.

PresidentCupcake said:
Has development slowed down for our device? Since lollipop got released, there hasn't been many new updates for existing roms or new roms. I know, if I want it, I should develop a rom myself. But, I've never been good at program languages so, I depend on the fine folks here on XDA. I appreciate all their efforts. But, again I ask, has development slowed?
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No i do not share the feeling development slowed down, then again why should a developer spend so much time on these builds when sense 7 is around the corner. I think they pick the most valuable tweaks and parts of optimization.
My 2 cents

Mr Hofs said:
No i do not share the feeling development slowed down, then again why should a developer spend so much time on these builds when sense 7 is around the corner. I think they pick the most valuable tweaks and parts of optimization.
My 2 cents
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Do you think Sense 7 and Android 5.1 are actually coming to the M8?

unifex_ said:
Do you think Sense 7 and Android 5.1 are actually coming to the M8?
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I don't think.....know for sure it will