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donut for hero?

Hi all, are there any Android donut ROMs for the HTC hero? I know there are some for some other android phone but are there any ports for the hero ?

If there were, you think it wouldn't show up? Have some patience, the device hasn't even been out for a month yet.

Sykow said:
If there were, you think it wouldn't show up? Have some patience, the device hasn't even been out for a month yet.
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There was no need for that kind of reply...

Sorry for asking.

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Sorry for asking.
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lol! well i too am just wondering why there has not been a rom for the phone yet!
Yeah i hear the "its only been out for a month" but seriuosly??? the magic had roms before that but just by looking at the hero forums there doesnt seem anyone to be working on cooking roms..

exactly my point minogue, i know it might be tough to make the ROMs but its not like it can't be done

Well the phone has been rooted already.
However many people rooted their magic and g1 to install the htc Hero rom. And I guess since we have an HTC Hero, developers are not interested in making roms or optiming the current HTC Hero Rom.

yea well I still dont understand why they wouldnt want to optimize the hero its supposed to be the best android phone yet wouldn't they want to play around with it and see what they can make out of it?

Well hopefully HTC will release an update soon. It's said to be released within next months.

yea at least the update is out soon so I guess well all just have to wait

as i have said before
i too find it very strange that no chef is on board with us hero users
as we all know the chefs like to come/be first.....and we have nobody
unless the HTC update is all we need

Yeah, i was kinda hoping Cyanogen would get himself a Hero and start optimizing the ROM to improves speed, along with maybe some extra Donut features.
But i think the problem with the Hero's Sense UI is that it's not open source and so you're not allowed to tweak or mess with it. Only the underlying Android is open source and so may be meddled with and distributed.

Cobblers! Windows mobile is not open source and that's been getting cooked for years!
The main reason i reckon is because we already have what everyone wants....that's why the roms are all adding Hero stuff to the Magic.
They'll be here soon enough, in the meantime, be happy with the fact that you have what everyone else wants...!

I believe that Paul from Modaco is going to be cooking soon.
He's already posted stock unbranded and branded ROM's and mentioned cooking up a ROM with new Sense UI stuff soon.
I hope it's True. Paul's bits on using recovery image has already got me rooting and doing nandroid backups etc (I supplied the stock t_mobile rom to him as a result)

I guess that most people (like myself) just have no need for an other rom. I can already do everything I want and I have only minor speed problems from time to time. So I think motivation is very low right now on the rom front. This of course will change with a new Android version or updates Sense UI. Until then I'll code apps instead of messing around with the rom.

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I guess that most people (like myself) just have no need for an other rom. I can already do everything I want and I have only minor speed problems from time to time. So I think motivation is very low right now on the rom front. This of course will change with a new Android version or updates Sense UI. Until then I'll code apps instead of messing around with the rom.
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Yep, nothing much out there yet.
If we do get people working on speed improvements/optimisations then that will be great. Back on my touch HD some of the roms were very slick.
Sense UI upgrades are main thing, along with new versions of Android itself. We'll probaly get them faster as rom's here than official upgrades

AndoMarc said:
I guess that most people (like myself) just have no need for an other rom. I can already do everything I want and I have only minor speed problems from time to time. So I think motivation is very low right now on the rom front. This of course will change with a new Android version or updates Sense UI. Until then I'll code apps instead of messing around with the rom.
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You wouldnt want to customize something that is allready very good? If I could I would optimize it so its even greater than It Is. But that's just me I guess other people dobt wabt to make something that Is great greater

I believe the reason there is no cooking going on is the fact that there is nothing to upgrade yet. The Hero ROMs that are available right now are the latest thing, there is nothing newer so there is nothing to upgrade or borrow from better ROMs. Once there are newer phones and/or ROMs the cooking should start itself

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I believe the reason there is no cooking going on is the fact that there is nothing to upgrade yet. The Hero ROMs that are available right now are the latest thing, there is nothing newer so there is nothing to upgrade or borrow from better ROMs. Once there are newer phones and/or ROMs the cooking should start itself
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Errrr NO. I've seen roms for magic that include a lot of the new donut performance stuff. so there is newer stuff out there.

barryallott said:
Errrr NO. I've seen roms for magic that include a lot of the new donut performance stuff. so there is newer stuff out there.
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The donut stuff came from a developer release by Google. Its not from another phone.

CyanogenMod 12/Android L Discussion

Hello everybody.
So I was wondering, when CyanogenMod 12 comes out, will they still support all of the devices they have been supporting? Or at least, in specific, our device? I can't imagine why'd they drop support.
Also, I hear in the new Android version, the Linux 3.10 kernel is being used. As opposed to the current 3.4 kernel we are using. Does anybody know about any significant changes between the two?
This is very exciting if/when we get this on our device I personally will just wait on a CM or AOSP version of Android as stock never really does it for me.
I don't know, but the more I think about it, the more excited I get (also the more apprehensive I get since I'll have to upgrade my kernel sources).
I know I probably shouldn't bring this up, but I also can't wait to blow my friend's new iOS 8 update out of the water with CM12/L (Not like CM11 doesn't already do that )

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Hello everybody.
So I was wondering, when CyanogenMod 12 comes out, will they still support all of the devices they have been supporting? Or at least, in specific, our device? I can't imagine why'd they drop support.
Also, I hear in the new Android version, the Linux 3.10 kernel is being used. As opposed to the current 3.4 kernel we are using. Does anybody know about any significant changes between the two?
This is very exciting if/when we get this on our device I personally will just wait on a CM or AOSP version of Android as stock never really does it for me.
I don't know, but the more I think about it, the more excited I get (also the more apprehensive I get since I'll have to upgrade my kernel sources).
I know I probably shouldn't bring this up, but I also can't wait to blow my friend's new iOS 8 update out of the water with CM12/L (Not like CM11 doesn't already do that )
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I'm so excited about this. It will be sooooooo cool. I need to learn to develop ROMs and stuff, because if developer support dies for this phone I would want to keep the development going.

Well then start now rjm....... Better now then never
2SHAYNEZ

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I'm so excited about this. It will be sooooooo cool. I need to learn to develop ROMs and stuff, because if developer support dies for this phone I would want to keep the development going.
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You'll have me doing the little bit I can for this device for the next 8-9 months I'm stuck with this thing
Don't worry about developing ROMs, all you really need to know is how to compile and maintain. I plan to attempt at some unofficial builds of a ROM or two once I can deem my kernel as done. But don't worry, the LG OGP is definitely booming with activity right now, and will probably only get better with the following months to come.
We already have:
Gummy
PAC
Beanstalk
CM11
AOKP
AICP
Vanir
and a pretty good range of stock ROMs.
Soon (and I mean within a month or so) I hope to add Carbon and Paranoid Android to this list, but we will have to see. I do not know how to compile unofficially or much about it, but it doesn't look extremely difficult. So my hopes are high.
Plus, as this device drops in price, we may get some more people to keep development for this device relevant. Although I did not see our device in the local AT&T store last time I was there...
We have a beautiful phone with the processing power to last as a quality device for another year at least. LG makes some pretty nice stuff.
Unfortunately, we will be seeing more and more of our users leave as the months drag on as this phone gains age
We'll have to see who lasts the longest with this phone as their primary device... lol.
I suspect we will reach our peek in ROMs soon a few months after Android L is up and running. Just my guess though.
Shayne has a good point though, now is definitely the time to start. So better hit the tutorials!

Snepsts said:
You'll have me doing the little bit I can for this device for the next 8-9 months I'm stuck with this thing
Don't worry about developing ROMs, all you really need to know is how to compile and maintain. I plan to attempt at some unofficial builds of a ROM or two once I can deem my kernel as done. But don't worry, the LG OGP is definitely booming with activity right now, and will probably only get better with the following months to come.
We already have:
Gummy
PAC
Beanstalk
CM11
AOKP
AICP
Vanir
and a pretty good range of stock ROMs.
Soon (and I mean within a month or so) I hope to add Carbon and Paranoid Android to this list, but we will have to see. I do not know how to compile unofficially or much about it, but it doesn't look extremely difficult. So my hopes are high.
Plus, as this device drops in price, we may get some more people to keep development for this device relevant. Although I did not see our device in the local AT&T store last time I was there...
We have a beautiful phone with the processing power to last as a quality device for another year at least. LG makes some pretty nice stuff.
Unfortunately, we will be seeing more and more of our users leave as the months drag on as this phone gains age
We'll have to see who lasts the longest with this phone as their primary device... lol.
I suspect we will reach our peek in ROMs soon a few months after Android L is up and running. Just my guess though.
Shayne has a good point though, now is definitely the time to start. So better hit the tutorials!
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If you could keep Beanstalk going for our device if development stops I would greatly appreciate it. I'll try and help out too when I learn how in case development does stop.

rjmxtech said:
If you could keep Beanstalk going for our device if development stops I would greatly appreciate it. I'll try and help out too when I learn how in case development does stop.
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I have a feeling that we don't have to worry about Beanstalk

No it won't stop..... Aicp has seemed to come to a hault .. Maybe you should jump on that rmj..... Read read read and then read .... Then compile yo stuff
2SHAYNEZ

shayneflashindaily said:
No it won't stop..... Aicp has seemed to come to a hault .. Maybe you should jump on that rmj..... Read read read and then read .... Then compile yo stuff
2SHAYNEZ
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It seems as though a lot of ROMs by that particular dev get abandoned eventually... but that's none of my business.
Yes AICP would be a great one to start on, first thing is first though, rjm, get yourself on a Linux VM or a Linux computer. Also, I hope you have some decent specs or it'll be hell trying to do it.
For example, I have an AMD FX-6350, so I have 6 cores in my system. I can allocate 4 to my VM
And you'll want some RAM, too. Like 8 GB so if you're using a VM you can allocate 4 as well.
For the distro I suggest using Linux Mint 64-bit (has to be 64-bit).
And I really hope your host OS is 64-bit, because otherwise you are probably incapable of compiling ROMs.
Best of luck!
P.S: I downloaded Carbon sources today. We'll see how that goes.

Oh also be sure you have PLENTY of free space, those sources love hogging space. I just cleaned out my old VM and set up a new one with 200 GB of space allocated. Thank God for Terabyte HDDs
Staying on topic, the L/5.0 SDK was released today. Approx. two weeks until the official Nexus release, and hopefully not too long until we get a taste of that afterwards.
KitKat was great (it felt like the smoothest Android experience ever when I flashed my first KK ROM) but I'm ready for Lollipop!
Material design looks interesting, although I gotta say... the circle triangle square virtual buttons aren't the best design choice imo. Maybe it's to make switching from an iPhone to an Android easier for the iUsers that find the current system to difficult to understand :laugh: They sure like their shapes of rounded edge squares and circles.
I'm not kidding, actually. A friend of mine steals my phone all the time and she cannot figure out PIE to save her life...

shayneflashindaily said:
No it won't stop..... Aicp has seemed to come to a hault .. Maybe you should jump on that rmj..... Read read read and then read .... Then compile yo stuff
2SHAYNEZ
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I don't think I want to compile AICP. Beanstalk is the only ROM IMO that really would be a loss if development stopped. The features of Beanstalk outnumber those of other ROMs

rjmxtech said:
I don't think I want to compile AICP. Beanstalk is the only ROM IMO that really would be a loss if development stopped. The features of Beanstalk outnumber those of other ROMs
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What about compiling it for the sake of learning how to compile...?

Snepsts said:
What about compiling it for the sake of learning how to compile...?
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Maybe

rjmxtech said:
I don't think I want to compile AICP. Beanstalk is the only ROM IMO that really would be a loss if development stopped. The features of Beanstalk outnumber those of other ROMs
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Is Beanstalk as stable as cm11. Does it have a RC or something similar to PAC or M11?

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Is Beanstalk as stable as cm11. Does it have a RC or something similar to PAC or M11?
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I'm pretty sure Beanstalk only releases stable updates. From what I remember there aren't any nightlies, as it sometimes is months before a new update is released. That is another reason why I like Beanstalk better than other ROMs.

I will be happy to see official LG update for Android Lollipop 5.x Waiting for updates!

rahib172 said:
I will be happy to see official LG update for Android Lollipop 5.x Waiting for updates!
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Not much news from lg on updates yet:
http://www.androidauthority.com/which-phones-android-lollipop-540232/
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I don't think I want to compile AICP. Beanstalk is the only ROM IMO that really would be a loss if development stopped. The features of Beanstalk outnumber those of other ROMs
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Probably a sort of noobish question, but anyway many roms are cm-based (including beanstalk), and even aokp is cm enabled. How dependent are these roms on cm, basically meaning could they sustain themselves without cm continuing support too?

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Not much news from lg on updates yet:
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Probably a sort of noobish question, but anyway many roms are cm-based (including beanstalk), and even aokp is cm enabled. How dependent are these roms on cm, basically meaning could they sustain themselves without cm continuing support too?
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I think CM official support is close to vital for these ROMs, mainly for the kernel, but also because they update the device thingy you use to build ROMs I do believe.
I am 90% sure we will receive updates from CM though. They sure know how to take care of their devices.

Any custom ROM will do, if we are talking about testing the new Android L. What's bothering me is the support for F240x devices. If CM, Beanstalk, VANIR/COMMOTIO or AICP (the one I am using for a long period of time), will release an update, will there be a KERNEL or ROM that will work for the F240x?

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Any custom ROM will do, if we are talking about testing the new Android L. What's bothering me is the support for F240x devices. If CM, Beanstalk, VANIR/COMMOTIO or AICP (the one I am using for a long period of time), will release an update, will there be a KERNEL or ROM that will work for the F240x?
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I really hope it is for your sake. Luckily the dev that makes F240 ROMs for you guys seems to know what he's doing, and I'm sure he'll keep working for you. As long as e980 has support he can use that kernel and use it for F240.

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I really hope it is for your sake. Luckily the dev that makes F240 ROMs for you guys seems to know what he's doing, and I'm sure he'll keep working for you. As long as e980 has support he can use that kernel and use it for F240.
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Hopefully.

No new development here

I've had my M8 for about 3 months now... As of a month and a half ago I decided that this Sense crap was getting on my nerves. I logged on here only to discover there's almost no discussion, development or anything else going on here. What happened with this device that nobody is doing a 4.4.4 KitKat update or a 5.0 Lollipop AOSP build for it? Did I miss something big that happened here? I don't recall XDA ever being this barron. Especially on an unlockable HTC device.

too many devices
it really has more to do with the fact that there are WAAAAY too many android devices out there. i'm all for the success of android and the phone companies that make them. A few years ago when android was finally getting popular, there were a handful of devices, most developers had the same devices: htc incredible, incredible 2, galaxy, galaxy 2, etc. with everyone having the same phone, mass development took place...now there are so many rootable phones out there it is difficult to get all the devs on one device. if you have 20 developers and 4 phones to choose from you get a lot of development on each phone....if you have 20 devs and 20 phones to choose from....well, you get it. best advice is when a new device comes out DO NOT run out and buy it the first minute you can slam the money down on the counter and walk away with it. wait a few days...a week...maybe 2....check back on XDA and see what device starts getting the most development. go buy that phone. =]
on a side note, there is a fair amount of development that goes on in the world wide m8 forum area that this forum stems off of. if you read the posts it is easy to adapt your US m8 to use any of those roms. also, viper rom has a decent amount of constant development as well. i have been using this rom for quite awhile and to be honest...it rocks. if youre not using it give it a try. there are tons of customizations to keep you happy =)

go check out the M8 section http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one-m8
After rooting and flashing your recovery you can install pretty much any M8 ROM. Sure the T-mo has WiFi calling but I'm not sure what else it has.
OR you can run your own launcher, get the xposed architecture and start tweaking your stock ROM to do what you want it to do. That was the best method for me as it still runs incredibly stable and I was able to get the majority of the features I wanted like loosing most of sense.

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go check out the M8 section http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-one-m8
After rooting and flashing your recovery you can install pretty much any M8 ROM. Sure the T-mo has WiFi calling but I'm not sure what else it has.
OR you can run your own launcher, get the xposed architecture and start tweaking your stock ROM to do what you want it to do. That was the best method for me as it still runs incredibly stable and I was able to get the majority of the features I wanted like loosing most of sense.
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That's it right there. All gsm M8 development is over on there. Also I few sense roms have wifi calling in them.

Just a question about ROMs and building them

So OGP community. I like ROMs. You like ROMs. We all like ROMs.
If you could have any ROM on this phone. What would it be? Why?
Is there a reason for somebody to build it for our device? Is it in Lollipop?
Any ROM at all?
I might take another ROM or two under my wing for weekly builds now that Lollipop is here. Especially since Carbon is taking it's good ol' time updtaing. :l
Happy flashing

As long the ROM supports F240x, I'll be good.

Any of the Bliss or Beanstalk ROMs. I would like to have TWRP work with the lollipop encryption if that is possible. That's not related to the ROMs though.

rjmxtech said:
Any of the Bliss or Beanstalk ROMs. I would like to have TWRP work with the lollipop encryption if that is possible. That's not related to the ROMs though.
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Bliss and Beanstalk are already have their own maintainers Hmmm Lollipop working with encryption... We'll have to look into that I suppose.

On all my devices i like slimrom roms. But on the e980 , nothing really strong on the latest slimrom.

i wish for a stable kitkat versions because every time when a new android version comes out, the rom developers run to make their rom with their latest android versions. i do understand that they take time to offer their rom with the latest android in order to compete each other but, the old bugs which might not be reported so often or getting ignored, wont get fixed and so it results to half fixed rom versions which the devs dont pay attention anymore bc they all want the latest stuff but plenty of bugs. so how can some of us suppose to profit from custom roms when the older androids arent finished ? that s the reason why some more ppl running back to stock roms which you are not able to custumize your settings and tweaks like no other...
that s my opinion, i hope you understand what i mean...
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i wish for a stable kitkat versions because every time when a new android version comes out, the rom developers run to make their rom with their latest android versions. i do understand that they take time to offer their rom with the latest android in order to compete each other but, the old bugs which might not be reported so often or getting ignored, wont get fixed and so it results to half fixed rom versions which the devs dont pay attention anymore bc they all want the latest stuff but plenty of bugs. so how can some of us suppose to profit from custom roms when the older androids arent finished ? that s the reason why some more ppl running back to stock roms which you are not able to custumize your settings and tweaks like no other...
that s my opinion, i hope you understand what i mean...
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I do! I agree, for the most part. But actually many ROM makers continue to support KitKat builds to finalize them for people like you, who prefer stability (Totally understandable). I'll build Carbon's final KitKat build when they're done and you can bet your butt that'll be stable!
I want to focus on Lollipop because there's going to be a whoooole year ahead of us on it, may as well start now I suppose
Sorry the ROM community overlooks you, I hope you are able to experience a stable custom Android experience soon

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I do! I agree, for the most part. But actually many ROM makers continue to support KitKat builds to finalize them for people like you, who prefer stability (Totally understandable). I'll build Carbon's final KitKat build when they're done and you can bet your butt that'll be stable!
I want to focus on Lollipop because there's going to be a whoooole year ahead of us on it, may as well start now I suppose
Sorry the ROM community overlooks you, I hope you are able to experience a stable custom Android experience soon
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i shall report as many bugs i can see and i ll learn how to logcat this and find out whose forum i can spam on.
but what i fear is, that the community will stop working on our phone roms and then it will be abandoned bc of other phone models. so in that case we will be left hanging again...
i know it doesnt sound positive but i saw that on the other phone model section in xda.
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fosunite said:
i shall report as many bugs i can see and i ll learn how to logcat this and find out whose forum i can spam on.
but what i fear is, that the community will stop working on our phone roms and then it will be abandoned bc of other phone models. so in that case we will be left hanging again...
i know it doesnt sound positive but i saw that on the other phone model section in xda.
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Well, I'm here for a solid number of months yet. And, if need be I'll write a good tut for building ROMs for our phone specifically if it is necessary before I leave for a new phone. Anybody can build, you just need a decent computer, some intelligence, and lots of patience. So that's not too much of a concern

Carbon news
Well carbon had posted their announcement that they freeze the kitkat development and working on the LOLLIPOP firmwares, which i find that kind of sad bc im a fan of bug free and stable roms...
here s the announcement https://carbonrom.org/on-to-sweeter-things/
As for the votes, I vote for having the latest features in your kernel for the kitkat versions like you have done on lollipop :good:

fosunite said:
Well carbon had posted their announcement that they freeze the kitkat development and working on the LOLLIPOP firmwares, which i find that kind of sad bc im a fan of bug free and stable roms...
here s the announcement https://carbonrom.org/on-to-sweeter-things/
As for the votes, I vote for having the latest features in your kernel for the kitkat versions like you have done on lollipop :good:
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"Firstly, our Kitkat nightlies will be on a code freeze from here on out. No new features, nothing of that sort. Only bug fixes and commits that add to the ROM’s stability will be considered for admittance. The two nightlies normally released each week will also not being produced anymore. We will do our best to get the bugs fixed and release a final Kitkat Milestone build sometime in the future, but no guarantees as usual."
Sounds like they're working for a stable KitKat still. KitKat kernel? Mmmm :T The commits in the LP kernel took quite some time. I don't even have the old sources anymore. I suppose I can go redownload them but that's a lot of work for not very many users benefits.
I will look into it I suppose.

HTC 10 ROMS based on AOSP, AOKP, CM, DU, etc.

I'm new to HTC (but certainly not new to the world of custom ROMs). Is there a likelihood we'll see ROMs not based on HTC's software? Has HTC been good in the past releasing the necessary software to the developers to port other ROMs to this device? This is the only major thing I feel is missing with this phone. I'm enjoying having my root apps back and whatnot but I do miss having those truly custom ROMs.

We absolutely will see a ton of ROMS. It's just going to take some time. The device is brand new. Give it some time. Based on timing, it's also possible some devs are going to just jump right into N adding a little delay.
Either way, this is a dev friendly flagship, so we will definitely get variety.

yes it would get a ton of custom roms...
but definitely not a pure aosp rom or rom built from scratch on aosp for HTC 10 or any of the HTC devices so far...
that only happens with very few devices and definitely our pure love Nexus!!!!!
i miss those aosp builds already and still holding onto Nexus because ofthat....

Me too, im looking forward for them. I just jumped from a nexus 5, and i'm very pleased with the 10 but i do miss the customization and the pure android feel. God bless the developers, and hopefully we gonna see a pure aosp rom soon
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To be honest it all depends. 1. If the development get the device or 2. Some one gets it and does the work. The second option is most likely as most development teams fight only nexus devices and leave the other devices to people that buy them.

friendly bump it's August...safe to say no hope for any other types of ROMs?
Just bought my wife a gold OnePlus3. It's like a Nexus...stupid simple OEM unlock and ROMs up to wahzoo....tempting to switch over. I still like the display and the audio on the HTC 10 for now. It's pretty snappy and I'm happy with Viper but I do miss all the other "tweaks."

The main resaon for missing other Rom's is the later Release of this Device. But i think u only need one ROM, its Viper that u use... i recive my Device this Month and i know that i dont miss this CM Based things.

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friendly bump it's August...safe to say no hope for any other types of ROMs?
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Not even close! Check the cm13 dev thread, development is more or less just getting started in porting it over (even though a lot has already been done, just what's left is not small)
A lot of custom AOSP roms start with cm as a base, so once they get the rest of the hardware/kernel level stuff figured out you'll start seeing the typical wave of them shortly thereafter.
Just remember this stuff is a hobby and it's summer time (at least in the states) so be patient.
Honestly, I've held out even unlocking so far in part because of this. There's enough on stock that the value isn't there for me until there's a tasty selection of both AOSP and sense roms for me to try

With all the stuff going on surrounding Cyanogen I wouldn't be surprised if we stop seeing CM ROM development altogether.

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Not even close! Check the cm13 dev thread, development is more or less just getting started in porting it over (even though a lot has already been done, just what's left is not small)
A lot of custom AOSP roms start with cm as a base, so once they get the rest of the hardware/kernel level stuff figured out you'll start seeing the typical wave of them shortly thereafter.
Just remember this stuff is a hobby and it's summer time (at least in the states) so be patient.
Honestly, I've held out even unlocking so far in part because of this. There's enough on stock that the value isn't there for me until there's a tasty selection of both AOSP and sense roms for me to try
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isn't aosp based and cm based both different....

SacredDeviL666 said:
isn't aosp based and cm based both different....
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I guess it depends on how specific one needs to be on the definition. CM is an AOSP-based ROM, see http://www.cyanogenmod.org/about, so any other ROM using CM as a base would in my eyes ultimately be AOSP-based itself. Put into analog, let's say you take some wood and build a chair. Then later you cut down that chair a bit to make a foot stool, maybe cut in a cup-holder and paint on some cool new QS tiles. Is that stool made out of wood or made out of chair?

SacredDeviL666 said:
isn't aosp based and cm based both different....
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dangle79 said:
I guess it depends on how specific one needs to be on the definition. CM is an AOSP-based ROM, see http://www.cyanogenmod.org/about, so any other ROM using CM as a base would in my eyes ultimately be AOSP-based itself. Put into analog, let's say you take some wood and build a chair. Then later you cut down that chair a bit to make a foot stool, maybe cut in a cup-holder and paint on some cool new QS tiles. Is that stool made out of wood or made out of chair?
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CM is now as far away from AOSP as any other oem based rom.

zelendel said:
CM is now as far away from AOSP as any other oem based rom.
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that is very true
but the point i was trying to make there was that most if not all non-oem roms (at least for htc handsets) rooted in AOSP are either based on cm or wind up getting ported with a HAL cherry-picked from cm. (just what i've seen)
the first domino has gotta fall

dangle79 said:
that is very true
but the point i was trying to make there was that most if not all non-oem roms (at least for htc handsets) rooted in AOSP are either based on cm or wind up getting ported with a HAL cherry-picked from cm. (just what i've seen)
the first domino has gotta fall
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You would really be amazed. Most people are avoiding use anything from cm. Maybe only the theme engine but that isn't even really theirs. With CM history of not testing commits and bugs that have been around for years unfixed. Many are finding it easier just to not deal with cm. Plus the main devs ticked alot of devs off so they won't use it out of principles.

zelendel said:
You would really be amazed. Most people are avoiding use anything from cm. Maybe only the theme engine but that isn't even really theirs. With CM history of not testing commits and bugs that have been around for years unfixed. Many are finding it easier just to not deal with cm. Plus the main devs ticked alot of devs off so they won't use it out of principles.
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I've always felt CM 6-7 was very well polished and after so many devices being introduced, has lost it's reliability and polishness that OEMs offer after CM 7.
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richii0207 said:
I've always felt CM 6-7 was very well polished and after so many devices being introduced, has lost it's reliability and polishness that OEMs offer after CM 7.
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zelendel said:
You would really be amazed. Most people are avoiding use anything from cm. Maybe only the theme engine but that isn't even really theirs. With CM history of not testing commits and bugs that have been around for years unfixed. Many are finding it easier just to not deal with cm. Plus the main devs ticked alot of devs off so they won't use it out of principles.
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Yeah I'm basing all that off what I saw with the jewel which I just now jumped from. I'm a coder but not an Android dev by any stretch, and was rolling my own cm for the better part of the past year and dabbled in porting briefly.
I can totally see what you're saying though. At some point you get too many hands in the pot and it becomes more curse than blessing.

Sorry to bump this up again but is there any active development on AOSP for the 10? Haven't seen anything yet.

pjd2011 said:
Sorry to bump this up again but is there any active development on AOSP for the 10? Haven't seen anything yet.
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keep checking http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/development
there is this one there already http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/development/rom-validusos-m-gzr-23-08-2016-t3446373
but still with a few bugs, give it a little more time and we should get something for daily driver

anything yet?

https://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/development