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donut for hero?

Hi all, are there any Android donut ROMs for the HTC hero? I know there are some for some other android phone but are there any ports for the hero ?

If there were, you think it wouldn't show up? Have some patience, the device hasn't even been out for a month yet.

Sykow said:
If there were, you think it wouldn't show up? Have some patience, the device hasn't even been out for a month yet.
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There was no need for that kind of reply...

Sorry for asking.

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lol! well i too am just wondering why there has not been a rom for the phone yet!
Yeah i hear the "its only been out for a month" but seriuosly??? the magic had roms before that but just by looking at the hero forums there doesnt seem anyone to be working on cooking roms..

exactly my point minogue, i know it might be tough to make the ROMs but its not like it can't be done

Well the phone has been rooted already.
However many people rooted their magic and g1 to install the htc Hero rom. And I guess since we have an HTC Hero, developers are not interested in making roms or optiming the current HTC Hero Rom.

yea well I still dont understand why they wouldnt want to optimize the hero its supposed to be the best android phone yet wouldn't they want to play around with it and see what they can make out of it?

Well hopefully HTC will release an update soon. It's said to be released within next months.

yea at least the update is out soon so I guess well all just have to wait

as i have said before
i too find it very strange that no chef is on board with us hero users
as we all know the chefs like to come/be first.....and we have nobody
unless the HTC update is all we need

Yeah, i was kinda hoping Cyanogen would get himself a Hero and start optimizing the ROM to improves speed, along with maybe some extra Donut features.
But i think the problem with the Hero's Sense UI is that it's not open source and so you're not allowed to tweak or mess with it. Only the underlying Android is open source and so may be meddled with and distributed.

Cobblers! Windows mobile is not open source and that's been getting cooked for years!
The main reason i reckon is because we already have what everyone wants....that's why the roms are all adding Hero stuff to the Magic.
They'll be here soon enough, in the meantime, be happy with the fact that you have what everyone else wants...!

I believe that Paul from Modaco is going to be cooking soon.
He's already posted stock unbranded and branded ROM's and mentioned cooking up a ROM with new Sense UI stuff soon.
I hope it's True. Paul's bits on using recovery image has already got me rooting and doing nandroid backups etc (I supplied the stock t_mobile rom to him as a result)

I guess that most people (like myself) just have no need for an other rom. I can already do everything I want and I have only minor speed problems from time to time. So I think motivation is very low right now on the rom front. This of course will change with a new Android version or updates Sense UI. Until then I'll code apps instead of messing around with the rom.

AndoMarc said:
I guess that most people (like myself) just have no need for an other rom. I can already do everything I want and I have only minor speed problems from time to time. So I think motivation is very low right now on the rom front. This of course will change with a new Android version or updates Sense UI. Until then I'll code apps instead of messing around with the rom.
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Yep, nothing much out there yet.
If we do get people working on speed improvements/optimisations then that will be great. Back on my touch HD some of the roms were very slick.
Sense UI upgrades are main thing, along with new versions of Android itself. We'll probaly get them faster as rom's here than official upgrades

AndoMarc said:
I guess that most people (like myself) just have no need for an other rom. I can already do everything I want and I have only minor speed problems from time to time. So I think motivation is very low right now on the rom front. This of course will change with a new Android version or updates Sense UI. Until then I'll code apps instead of messing around with the rom.
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You wouldnt want to customize something that is allready very good? If I could I would optimize it so its even greater than It Is. But that's just me I guess other people dobt wabt to make something that Is great greater

I believe the reason there is no cooking going on is the fact that there is nothing to upgrade yet. The Hero ROMs that are available right now are the latest thing, there is nothing newer so there is nothing to upgrade or borrow from better ROMs. Once there are newer phones and/or ROMs the cooking should start itself

Biffert said:
I believe the reason there is no cooking going on is the fact that there is nothing to upgrade yet. The Hero ROMs that are available right now are the latest thing, there is nothing newer so there is nothing to upgrade or borrow from better ROMs. Once there are newer phones and/or ROMs the cooking should start itself
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Errrr NO. I've seen roms for magic that include a lot of the new donut performance stuff. so there is newer stuff out there.

barryallott said:
Errrr NO. I've seen roms for magic that include a lot of the new donut performance stuff. so there is newer stuff out there.
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The donut stuff came from a developer release by Google. Its not from another phone.

Droid Eris 2.1 leak!

forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=641588
So, some chinaman working for HTC decided to bless us all with some Eclairy goodness, complete with drivers and all! If I'm not completely mistaken this should be very possible to port over to the Hero, so let's see you take your best swing at it, devs, you can do it! I'm even going to try it for myself, I'll post it if I can get it to work (Mind you I'm no experienced dev, but I'll give it a shot anyway, can't wait for a flawless 2.1)
DISCLAIMER: Do NOT flash the rom in the thread, it will brick your phone. (I didn't flash it, just thought I'd say it since some people don't seem to tell the difference between hero, sprint hero and eris)
edit: apparently the first link is corrupt. There is, however, a patched version later in the thread. Here's a direct link: hxxp://grense.no/android/android.2.1.droid.eris/PB00IMG.zip (Don't flash this one either)

Brilliant.
Maybe Nathan can use this to straiten out Villain?

NATHANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
LOOK here...

I downloaded the Eris 2.1 leak when I woke up at 6am...

Who thinks these leaks are endorsed by HTC as a backdoor to public beta testing, no strings attached? Remember the 2.73 build "leaked" about a month before public release.

So the Eris is that close to our hardware that it can be ported then ?
Good news all round I imagine, both for Sense ROM's and AOSP ROM's.
There will be some busy chefs over the next few days, and a hell of a lot of flashing going on

Yeah - very close indeed.
I'm annoyed that I have plans on Friday night, so I don't have a lot of time to do it over the next couple of days.
I'll get around to it Saturday at the latest.

Can't believe this has been deliberately corrupted that is awesome (as a joke). I would not be surprised at all if HTC have leaked this on purpose, companies do that all the time (including music companies) however they would never admit it.

I asked head office for a leak of the 2.1 Hero rom last week. Broken or not broken... I'd fix it.
They completely ignored me!
A rom thread with almost 400,000 views and they ignore me - lol.
Anyway, we have something now.
I just wish I had the time over the next couple of days to port it. Someone might beat me to it, but by Saturday, I'm hoping it'll be Villain 3.0 FINAL.

Lennyuk said:
Can't believe this has been deliberately corrupted that is awesome (as a joke). I would not be surprised at all if HTC have leaked this on purpose, companies do that all the time (including music companies) however they would never admit it.
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There is an uncorrupted version in the thread, people have flashed it to their Droid Eris(es) and it apparently works just fine

asterboter said:
There is an uncorrupted version in the thread, people have flashed it to their Droid Eris(es) and it apparently works just fine
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Yeah, I've read the whole thread. It's working for them fine.

are u going to make a non sense version as well mate as i really like the look of the just google one

nprussell said:
Yeah, I've read the whole thread. It's working for them fine.
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Although protected apps are gone in the market
but that's pretty much the only "bug" i found on that thread.

Lennyuk said:
Although protected apps are gone in the market
but that's pretty much the only "bug" i found on that thread.
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Again, a very easy fix.
Mihali (sp) fingerprint should sort that on Hero.

well i guess we gonna see new roms by the boat load

ermacwins said:
well i guess we gonna see new roms by the boat load
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Well, hopefully! However I'd settle for just one; a perfected Villain from Nathan
This is why I donated to him, when there's something new he's always there, messing about and putting down the time for producing great roms!

asterboter said:
Well, hopefully! However I'd settle for just one; a perfected Villain from Nathan
This is why I donated to him, when there's something new he's always there, messing about and putting down the time for producing great roms!
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Thanks, I appreciate that.
With any luck, this should mean Villain 3.0 Final
What I mean by that is, this will be the perfect base, and if we get everything working as it should - this will be the perfect base rom, needing only minor, incremental updates until the official rom is released.
Then... I get to play around all over again with villain 4

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Thanks, I appreciate that.
With any luck, this should mean Villain 3.0 Final
What I mean by that is, this will be the perfect base, and if we get everything working as it should - this will be the perfect base rom, needing only minor, incremental updates until the official rom is released.
Then... I get to play around all over again with villain 4
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So basically this was exactly what you were looking for really to make a perfect version 3 ahead of an official hero 2.1 release

I'm following the Eris thread closely. It's definitely not bug free
So far, someone's reported -
- Soft reset of phone using Gmail Push notifications...
- Google Earth fails to load (I suspect OpenGL issue)
I really hope this isn't the case.

nprussell said:
I'm following the Eris thread closely. It's definitely not bug free
So far, someone's reported -
- Soft reset of phone using Gmail Push notifications...
- Google Earth fails to load (I suspect OpenGL issue)
I really hope this isn't the case.
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hmm, just see how many people report the same issue, maybe that someone didn't install correctly, we already know how every installation is different on different phones.
Lets hope if there are issues they are issues we already know how to fix

Froyo

Why can't we have Froyo yet already???? What's the hold up? By the time, we get it... 3.0 will be around the corner...

Yours doesn't have it?

Yep. I have it
Sent from my Evo on on the Now network from Sprint
oh and duck Apple

I'm not talking about hacked custom roms.. I'm talking about offical release from HTC. I want Froyo that is fully function including 4g

you are lucky you didnt own a Hero then. It was outdated they day i got it(two days before launch). it came with 1.5 i believe, 1.6 was already out and 2.0 was announced a few weeks later w/ the DROID. THEN 2.1 one came out and Hero owners were STILL waiting. finally 2.2 was announced and a week or so later they pushed 2.1 to Sprint Heros.
long story short, dont expect it to come out anytime soon with HTC's track record. i would recommend rooting and installing cm6, it runs great sans 4G

Hairongreenfire said:
you are lucky you didnt own a Hero then. It was outdated they day i got it(two days before launch). it came with 1.5 i believe, 1.6 was already out and 2.0 was announced a few weeks later w/ the DROID. THEN 2.1 one came out and Hero owners were STILL waiting. finally 2.2 was announced and a week or so later they pushed 2.1 to Sprint Heros.
long story short, dont expect it to come out anytime soon with HTC's track record. i would recommend rooting and installing cm6, it runs great sans 4G
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I'm confused. I thought cm6 has the known issues for 4g.

jefftse said:
I'm confused. I thought cm6 has the known issues for 4g.
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long story short, dont expect it to come out anytime soon with HTC's track record. i would recommend rooting and installing cm6, it runs great sans 4G
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"without 4G"
HTC has announced 2.2 will roll out by December. If you want it that bad, i suggest trying out CyanogenMod. I never had 4G coverage around me, but after playing around with it, i would never go back to a Sense-based 2.1 ROM.

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"without 4G"
HTC has announced 2.2 will roll out by December. If you want it that bad, i suggest trying out CyanogenMod. I never had 4G coverage around me, but after playing around with it, i would never go back to a Sense-based 2.1 ROM.
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Cyanogen's mod, while amazingly awesome, has problems. There are missing features, inconsistencies between what works and what doesnt from user to user, and it's AOSP.
HTC has to make EVERYTHING work for EVERYONE all the while porting over their sense UI. All of their apps and widgets need to work on Froyo. It needs to be stable. This sort of thing realistically can take months to perfect. So don't be butthurt when you don't get it til Christmas.
I personally can't stand Sense... or any other UI put on top of android. But as long as I can root and boot up custom roms, I'm a happy camper.

uhh isn't google suppose to be the one releasing froyo since they are the makers of android os not htc? i thought htc was just the hardware

google only releases it for nexus one
they then release froyo source then hardware makers like htc and motorola use the source along to build their versions with either sense or blur

Now I can see how so many people are confused.
This isn't a simple phone, it is complex and there are many hands in the cookie jar. Please do some research about your phone, and who makes what, and you will realize it is far more complicated than "Froyo is out, how come my phone doesn't have it."

I'm very happy with the Froyo I already have. I see 4G as a totally useless feature due to its extreme battery drainage.

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Now I can see how so many people are confused.
This isn't a simple phone, it is complex and there are many hands in the cookie jar. Please do some research about your phone, and who makes what, and you will realize it is far more complicated than "Froyo is out, how come my phone doesn't have it."
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Uhh mayb not everyone has the time to research the whole history/background of their phone as you do...like me i switch phones every 2 months that means i'd be doing more research on my phones history then using the damn thing.

youngdhillon said:
Uhh mayb not everyone has the time to research the whole history/background of their phone as you do...like me i switch phones every 2 months that means i'd be doing more research on my phones history then using the damn thing.
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Then thinking you can come into a development forum and post a question that should be common knowledge to anyone tinkering at all in Android is just lazy.
If you switch phones every two months, then what do you care about Froyo, or even learning what your phone can do anyway...
When I make a purchase, I find out what I am buying, if it suits my needs, what limitations it has, what support it has etc. I call that making an "informed" decision.
I don't just walk into the story and buy the pretty one without knowing the above. Or else I would have an iPhone and wouldn't care about what I can do with it.
This was a lazy question posted by someone that hasn't done any reading about their phone or they would see what has to be done to get an Official Froyo build.

basically,
Froyo (aka: Android 2.2) has been released by it's maker. it's maker is Google. HTC gets licensing to install the OS on it's phones. now, when HTC first started working with Android...android was..well...it was lacking...it was lacking a fair bit. so the HTC devs put some 'Sense' onto android to make it something that the nerds can bring to their corporate executives. (cause if we nerds can't sell the boss on how cool this is...then i don't get to play it.) meanwhile, Google is trying to turn Android into a serious market contender. and its going up against some very mature code. this has a side effect of causing Google to release v1.5, v1.6, v2.1 and v2.2 rather close to each other. this is not a sustainable pace of release...it will piss everyone off. thankfully Froyo supposedly will be able to bridge us over until v3.0. at which point google has said they will proceed with a much slower version relase of Android.
Sense is not needed like it used to be. however, it'll prolly be around for a while. htc has said they will release froyo onto the evo but that is not a priority for them...the evo is yesterdays product so its more important getting the upcoming devices ready for market. perhaps the HTC/Sprint sanctioned Android 2.2 will be released by the end of the 4th quarter (or so they say).
on the good note...CM6 is rather nice. even without having 4G running yet. but really, how often do need to turn on the 4G radio? and they will get it working before long.
i must also agree w/ Bielinsk on this one....
Bielinsk Originally Posted by youngdhillon
This was a lazy question posted by someone that hasn't done any reading about their phone or they would see what has to be done to get an Official Froyo build.
Today 03:54 PM​

This may be a little off topic, but if I root my EVO what ROM should I use if I want Froyo and Sense?

kevinb99 said:
This may be a little off topic, but if I root my EVO what ROM should I use if I want Froyo and Sense?
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Check out Avalaunchmods Froyo ROM with Sense. He released an RC for it today and hopes to have a couple of little issues fixed tonight. He has a Sense and no-Sense ROM available. He's put a lot of work into them and i'll be checking out the Sense ROM for sure tonight. Probably bounce back and forth between the CM6 that i'm using now and Ava's Sense ROM.

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This may be a little off topic, but if I root my EVO what ROM should I use if I want Froyo and Sense?
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I respect your desire for Sense, however, I see no Sense in it.

Bielinsk said:
Then thinking you can come into a development forum and post a question that should be common knowledge to anyone tinkering at all in Android is just lazy.
If you switch phones every two months, then what do you care about Froyo, or even learning what your phone can do anyway...
When I make a purchase, I find out what I am buying, if it suits my needs, what limitations it has, what support it has etc. I call that making an "informed" decision.
I don't just walk into the story and buy the pretty one without knowing the above. Or else I would have an iPhone and wouldn't care about what I can do with it.
This was a lazy question posted by someone that hasn't done any reading about their phone or they would see what has to be done to get an Official Froyo build.
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maybe because all the phones i buy are android os...and you really have way too much time on you're hand to flame someone over such a little thing...all i asked was "isn't froyo suppose to be released by google and not htc" if you don't wana answer it then leave it alone...noone wants to hear your history crap...Noone wants to know how you read every nutrient fact before buying milk or read every little thing that's on the charging adapter...maybe you have time all the time in the world to do that and all the power to you but not everyone is like...we actually have a life and don't learn the history of every little thing we purchase...and fyi forums are made to ask questions and to inform each other...so if you don't like someones question instead of flaming simply don't read it and move on.

Gingerbread 3.0 question.

I'm very pleased with froyo 2.2. And I know this is a hard question to answer but do you think gingerbread 3.0 will be a huge update with lots of new features and improvements or will it just a have a few updates like froyo.

It's gonna be huge... one of the biggest things the world has ever seen.
No, seriously... who should know how it's gonna be, when there aren't any information out yet.
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No, seriously... who should know how it's gonna be, when there aren't any information out yet.
Cheers
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I meant your opinions.

As the name 3.0 says, you can assume that there will be major changes.

My opinion is that 3.0 will be a small update and only bring a couple of new features. Seeing as froyo only has a few new features and it took a while after 2.1 to be released. 3.0 is released by the end of the year. How could they possibly make a huge difference in a short period of time?
I'm hoping I'm wrong as I read somewhere Google said that the update will be that good we won't need HTC sense. Hope that's true.

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I meant your opinions.
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when android version 3.0 is release is signals a massive change in the os, google have decided to make 2 branches of android there will be the android 2.X branch for low to mid end devices and the 3.X branch for top end devices and android tablets, its also going to be alot better looking, the whole android ui is getting a revamp

doinbox said:
My opinion is that 3.0 will be a small update and only bring a couple of new features. Seeing as froyo only has a few new features and it took a while after 2.1 to be released. 3.0 is released by the end of the year. How could they possibly make a huge difference in a short period of time?
I'm hoping I'm wrong as I read somewhere Google said that the update will be that good we won't need HTC sense. Hope that's true.
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They've probably been working on Gingerbread since before they finished Froyo, and the fact that it's called 3.0 instead of 2.3 is significant.

Great stuff cant wait for it now.

It's gonna be huge!!! Major style gaming too
http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/11/exclusive-sony-ericsson-to-introduce-android-3-0-gaming-platfor/

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It's gonna be huge!!! Major style gaming too
http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/11/exclusive-sony-ericsson-to-introduce-android-3-0-gaming-platfor/
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Android 3.0 will have a facelift and yes a big one heard its going to be based on something like the gallery 3D app.

I recall reading that the rumours circulating about 3.0 are unreliable at best.
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I'm hoping I'm wrong as I read somewhere Google said that the update will be that good we won't need HTC sense. Hope that's true.
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Do we really need it now? The only reason I'm using a Sense ROM at the moment is so that the FM Radio works. If it weren't for that I'd be using a vanilla ROM.

member0 said:
Do we really need it now? The only reason I'm using a Sense ROM at the moment is so that the FM Radio works. If it weren't for that I'd be using a vanilla ROM.
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Without sense widgets I would be lost. I use most of them and the market alternatives just don't do it for me. I suppose it al depends on what the user needs.

Gingerbread
I wonder if Desire will still be defined as a high end device by the end of the year. Would hate if I had to get a new phone to experience 3.0!
Crossing my fingers for legen-dary performance!

I would love to get better update system. Where google would be pushing os updates while htc, mto, se and so on would push their ui + their software updates only. Therefore there would be no fragmentation of the os.

[Q] Can someone clear up some confusion? About Gingerbread

I am confused about these android os's. I realize my G2 came with the 2.2 Froyo. This obviously is a no brainer. But, since I just got my phone setup the way I like it (for now anyway) with CyanogenMod 6.4, am I supposed to expect T-Mobile to update my phone automatically with the new Gingerbread? (I doubt that the G2 will ever see it as a T-Mobile OTA) From my reading and researching it seems the Gingerbread has some new tweaks, more game related tweaks. I guess they decided to update the software with new graphics tweaks by implementing a new graphics software (OTA) similar to my NVIDIA GeForce 130M with independent-stand-alone 1g memory (Yea, Right!).
What I want to get clear is; the Cyanogen Mod 6.4 is based on the 2.2 Froyo isn't it? Will the Cyanoge ROM work in conjunction with the 2.3 Gingerbread, if it does update to all are phones? Or, is the 2.3 the same as th Cyanogen ROM, (and/or) is it going to be suggested that we let the 2.3 update (if we do get that option to download in the future) load and have to go through the whole re-rooting process again to install another ROM on top of it; like the Cyanogen.
And last, Is there another ROM on board here that anyone might want to suggest or if the Cyanogen pretty much the best upgrade? I do actually like all the features, now that I have my Launcher Pro working on top of it.
Thanks for any information,
Paul Holmes
chevy383surfing

afar as an OTA from TMO, don't hold your breath. we may get something sometime Q1 2011, but in my opinion and experience with TMO, this will never happen. They tend to to bother upgrading OS' if there is no known bug or issues that hinders the basic use of the device....you most likely will have to look for leaks on your own.
Af for CyanogenMOD, I'm pretty sure that him and his team will be proting 2.3 into his ROM. I would wait maybe a moth or so and we should have full Gingerbread ROMS in our G2's.
As for ROMs, and which is best.....I'm very new to this, but the one name I have always heard off as great ROMs are the CM's. There are many out there, I guess you could play around until you find one that suits you. Also if you prefer Sense over vanilla look...just look around. What I found (works for me) is the CM6.1 stable ROM....I have no issues with it, it allows me to control what I need to control, and then some. Many of the other ROMS out there may be missing conponents that I find here that work for ie FM Radio....
Hope this rambling helps...

Yes! This did help. I think I understand the nature of google's android systems in conjunction with CM. CM just takes their os and does exactly what their name says. They mod it. Your rambling is very much appreciated!
Thanks!
Paul
chevy383surfing

Well honestly, considering this is tmobiles first huge flagship phone, other than the g1 which did get upgraded...I believe that tmobile will in fact do it. I mean within the first month the phone had an update to fix some bugs.
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 with Virtuous Sense.

PatrickHuey said:
Well honestly, considering this is tmobiles first huge flagship phone, other than the g1 which did get upgraded...I believe that tmobile will in fact do it. I mean within the first month the phone had an update to fix some bugs.
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 with Virtuous Sense.
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True....but that had more to do with incredible amount of issues this phone had upon launch, and precisly being the flagship phone they had to react rather quick. I also think that it had to do with the amount of rturns they had to deal with during that period.
As for the flagship comment, I think the my touch 4g has taken over that role.
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA App

chevy383surfing said:
But, since I just got my phone setup the way I like it (for now anyway) with CyanogenMod 6.4, am I supposed to expect T-Mobile to update my phone automatically with the new Gingerbread?
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Once you've flashed a custom ROM, you won't automatically get an OTAs from your carrier. You'd have to flash back to stock to get an official OTA. But Cyanogen will have a Gingerbread version before your carrier comes out with a 2.3 OTA anyway.

To give a general answer to the OP:
1) CM 6.1 is based on Froyo. There is no 6.4.
2) What Cyanogen and his team do is take the current available source code and redesign it to make it better. This means that the stock (shipping) ROM is not using its full capacity for speed, stability, and functionality, so CM pushes that envelope.
3) CM 6.1 will never be a Gingerbread ROM, but it is almost certain that CM X.X (probably CM 7) will be Gingerbread based, and point #2 will apply to that as well.
4) We'll see a CM 7 shortly after the Gingerbread source code (not the SDK, which is already available) is made public.
5) There will also be other Gingerbread-based ROMs available when the source code is leaked, which may have already happened, or will happen within the next few days. CM, as far as I know, does not use leaked source codes, but waits until it is officially released.
6) All of the above is based on my observations, and I have no inside knowledge, so it could be partially, or fully, false.

That is one of the most informative posts I've seen on the xda website! Little explanations like that help clear up confusion. Even over something this small.
Thanks,
Paul