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THREAD CONTENT
My motive
My goals
Introduction child-boards
Child boards under my recommendation
My Motive
However XDA is a wonderful community there is still some room for improvement. XDA is great, as so are 'most' of the people around here, but however it's greatness there is still
one thing that does sometimes annoy me, is its organisation..
Let's be honest some people don't know where they should start their thread of where to find stuff, on the other hand most people who do have those problems are mostly plain stupid or are to lazy to search.
Yet I believe, that a little re-organisation will be able to address this matter and makes our lives, as the lives of users, mods or developers a little easier.
Lucky for you guys, I am not the guy that just complains, without constructing or achieving a potential solution.
I already put some hard work in it and I am fully prepared to do even more if necessarily , but before you judge me, please read and see see what I had in mind.
My Goals
Optimizing your User Experience
Creating new Levels of User Potential
Simplifying current structures and its organisations
Smoother, Faster, Clearer and Better
Introducing child-boards
I know it looks plain simple and you can believe I barely made any changes. BUT THAT IS THE KEY! That is my GOAL, keeping things as slim as possible. Still a child board can achieve an immense difference just only in your experience.
Imagine this simple user interface: Where you'll be able find to find a sub-board with ONLY ROM Releases or just everything related to it, so as for kernels.
Still I am perfectly aware that the ANDROID development goes beyond, ROM's and Kernels, YET these 2 elements in my opinion the main reason why people go to XDA, or they create kernels and ROM's or they want to flash them.
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No offense but isn't this a little weird, that so many people voted, where they'd best place their own thread?
Or is still someone able to tell, where I should fit this topic?
Child boards under my recommendation:
Separated Product Model Boards:
Even though people might find it lame, just know flashing the wrong firmware onto your phone, can brick your device,
accidents easily occur and even I noticed I accidently clicked onto the G development without even noticing it after 5 min and however the difference might look minor to some of you.
Why would you put 2 devices in the same area, knowing they require different systems, firmware and work on different hardware, meaning even though they are in the same range, THEY STILL DEFER
General Talk:
NewsThis community has a lot of potential users, that are motivated and willing to uncover the latest and hottest news for their phone or their device and I am fully aware that we do have XDA Tv.
But still I strongly believe this could be a very very useful sub-forum. Moderators or Forum Staff can sticky their posts to announce new rules or competitions
and only selected members will be able to post news concerning their galaxy s2 or their device, to decrease chances of any spam topics.
So why would we miss out on this potential, why wouldn't we publish a story that for example, AGPS, allows you to get a faster GPS lock or people invented a new script to conserve 50% more battery than usual,
does it really harm anyone, that one story wouldn't be that interesting, as this place could offer you, a pool of different stories that might catch your interest.
Nobody is forced to publish something, neither are you to read, you'll only have the Galaxy S2 knowledge library right at your disposal.
Android Developent:
Seperated ROM & Kernel BoardWouldn't it be way easier to find all your ROM releases in one place and ONLY them?
Would we even need updated indexes anymore, when this would all be clear and accessible in one single location,
would we even be bothered to posts polls as where should I put this thread as you might have already seen above?
Wouldn't this make your user experience more simpler finding in two clicks whatever you'd like?
I'd certainly vow for this!
ROM & Kernels Separated, everything else, in the android development thread (Applications, scripts, Tweaks, ...
Interactive Search Functions
MORE QUESTIONS OR SUGGESTIONS? FEEL FREE TO COMMENT OR ASK RIGHT AWAY
Wow - thank you for your well thought out and detailed posts. We actually do have some of the changes you are recommending in the pipeline and will certainly take your other recommendations into consideration in the future.
bitpushr said:
Wow - thank you for your well thought out and detailed posts. We actually do have some of the changes you are recommending in the pipeline and will certainly take your other recommendations into consideration in the future.
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You shouldn't' be thanking me, it's my privilege I can be part of this community.
I saw a lot of potential around here and I am not much of a scripter, neither am I able to cook mods or roms
But I just wanted to give something back in return
I am just a simple student from Belgium with some crazy ideas
Still I feel honored my contribution will be taken in consideration and if you just require my help
Or you want me to do something, don't even hesitate to ask
Yours sincerely, Intensity
I for one, love this new idea. The separated rom and kernel sections are superb, it would be so much easier for users to find what they want. I could spend time writing every little thing down, but im on a short schedule. All in all, I want this
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I for one, love this new idea. The separated rom and kernel sections are superb, it would be so much easier for users to find what they want. I could spend time writing every little thing down, but im on a short schedule. All in all, I want this
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Even if you're time is short, you should be ashamed for not clicking the thank button
Haha just kidding, much appreciated
Related
What features are we losing by rooting & installing stock rom
1. ive heard 4G
2. ive heard vulnerable to dev..able to get our personal data easily
3. ?
4. ?
ETC....
any1????????????
1.) Rooting doesn't lose features...installing a development rom will (Froyo atm) because it's still in development. But rooting is merely gaining access to the locked portions of your phone so it should not have any effect on features (though does affect how much you can damage if you don't understand things fully).
2.) Again, this only applies to installing a ROM and it's an exercise in trust. Is there a way to hide things from the majority? sure...with a wide base of users who are somewhat tech-savvy, it's harder but it could still be done. Ultimately, it comes down to whether or not you trust them...in the same way it comes down to whether or not you trust HTC for the exact same thing (they could hide info gathering tools too if they wanted).
The risk is there but unlikely with anything that sticks around a while...if you're worried about such things and want the most stable comfortable experience...stick with stock (at least for a while) until things have settled on the forums into a groove where you have the main few devs who have built a good reputation for themselves. (Toast and Flipz have built a good reputation for themselves on the CDMA Hero forums already but ultimately, it's you who have to decide who you want to trust. If you're truely paranoid, you could even add the concern that I'm just a propaganda spreading sleaze trying to allay your worries to get you to root and take over your phone, etc).
You can see, it can become a slippery slope if you overthink things. My suggestion is to watch and keep tabs on things going on...not only will you learn a lot about the whole process but you'll start seeing the non-tangible things that tell you where you can put your trust...or evidence that you should stay stock for a while longer.
thecodemonk said:
1.) Rooting doesn't lose features...installing a development rom will (Froyo atm) because it's still in development. But rooting is merely gaining access to the locked portions of your phone so it should not have any effect on features (though does affect how much you can damage if you don't understand things fully).
2.) Again, this only applies to installing a ROM and it's an exercise in trust. Is there a way to hide things from the majority? sure...with a wide base of users who are somewhat tech-savvy, it's harder but it could still be done. Ultimately, it comes down to whether or not you trust them...in the same way it comes down to whether or not you trust HTC for the exact same thing (they could hide info gathering tools too if they wanted).
The risk is there but unlikely with anything that sticks around a while...if you're worried about such things and want the most stable comfortable experience...stick with stock (at least for a while) until things have settled on the forums into a groove where you have the main few devs who have built a good reputation for themselves. (Toast and Flipz have built a good reputation for themselves on the CDMA Hero forums already but ultimately, it's you who have to decide who you want to trust. If you're truely paranoid, you could even add the concern that I'm just a propaganda spreading sleaze trying to allay your worries to get you to root and take over your phone, etc).
You can see, it can become a slippery slope if you overthink things. My suggestion is to watch and keep tabs on things going on...not only will you learn a lot about the whole process but you'll start seeing the non-tangible things that tell you where you can put your trust...or evidence that you should stay stock for a while longer.
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Thanks for the reply. I'm going for it.
Yes thank you, I as well want the root options but would like to stick with the stock rom.
thecodemonk said:
1.) Rooting doesn't lose features...installing a development rom will (Froyo atm) because it's still in development. But rooting is merely gaining access to the locked portions of your phone so it should not have any effect on features (though does affect how much you can damage if you don't understand things fully).
2.) Again, this only applies to installing a ROM and it's an exercise in trust. Is there a way to hide things from the majority? sure...with a wide base of users who are somewhat tech-savvy, it's harder but it could still be done. Ultimately, it comes down to whether or not you trust them...in the same way it comes down to whether or not you trust HTC for the exact same thing (they could hide info gathering tools too if they wanted).
The risk is there but unlikely with anything that sticks around a while...if you're worried about such things and want the most stable comfortable experience...stick with stock (at least for a while) until things have settled on the forums into a groove where you have the main few devs who have built a good reputation for themselves. (Toast and Flipz have built a good reputation for themselves on the CDMA Hero forums already but ultimately, it's you who have to decide who you want to trust. If you're truely paranoid, you could even add the concern that I'm just a propaganda spreading sleaze trying to allay your worries to get you to root and take over your phone, etc).
You can see, it can become a slippery slope if you overthink things. My suggestion is to watch and keep tabs on things going on...not only will you learn a lot about the whole process but you'll start seeing the non-tangible things that tell you where you can put your trust...or evidence that you should stay stock for a while longer.
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Sir, thanks for sharing!!! I'm a total noob and this was a very good read for me. I appreciate the time it took to put together a coherent and meaningful post.
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Hey all. Ever notice all these different devices we have here at xda. It's kinda hard to navigate sometimes when I'm looking for devices. Just a thought, maybe we should get them organized by manufacturer or something. It'd make browsing around the forums much easier and reduce a lot of cluster on the forums.
What do you think?
On my Inspire 4G
I think that's a great idea
Try using the search box in the top right corner, saves you all the time in the world.....
Hope that helps..........
Try using "compact view" on the homepage to sort them better
I think it would be better organized if it was more like AndroidForums.com
nice idea...
I agree with the compact view but it still leaves a lot of clutter among the list of devices. Now if it were sorted by the manufacturer it would make the initial forum page much smaller, maybe even only 10-15 sections. Or even for a little reorganization put the devices by the same maker all together instead of a mixed list. Cause the newest devices are at The bottom but are all still mixed among makers. It'd also make new members easier to navigate the forums when looking for their device.
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Not sure I understand you. From what I can see on the site, I can search a device by OS or Manufacturer. I have a yellow Drop down menu in the top right side of the site that splits everything by brand or OS.
Rageing you're saying the exact idea I was saying. Just how its sorted by os or mfg but if it was setup like that by default it makes a great first impression for new users and for fast easy searching among the forums
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Categorising them by Manufacturer would make a lot of sense.
This would also help distinguish general forums from the device specific ones.
New to xda-developers? Check This Out!
check out this guide!
and they are sectioned by manufacturer to find captivate you have to go way down to Samsung devices!
TRusselo said:
New to xda-developers? Check This Out!
check out this guide!
and they are sectioned by manufacturer to find captivate you have to go way down to Samsung devices!
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I am not very active on this site mainly because my old phone was never given a forum here(Moto Backflip) but wanted to comment anyways because I hope to be more active now that I have a D2G. Anyways in regards to this issue at hand, I am sorry to say but really? I dont mean to sound like a smart.. but you really expect people to read that? Much less for new members to find it..
I think maybe what people mean when they say sorting things by device is like this:
Motorola: Category
-Flipout(forum)
--General(sub-forum)
--Accessories(sub-forum)
--Development(sub-forum)
-Droid 2
--General(sub-forum)
--Accessories(sub-forum)
--Development(sub-forum)
Then if you set the sub-forums not to set on the forum index, this shortens the forum index substantially making it much quicker and easier to find your device. Like I said I am just assuming on that, so if I am wrong, this would be my suggestion on the matter.
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TRusselo said:
New to xda-developers? Check This Out!
check out this guide!
and they are sectioned by manufacturer to find captivate you have to go way down to Samsung devices!
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How so? If I go to http://forum.xda-developers.com/index.php and then scroll down, I will find HTC devices in-between samsung and motarola ones, etc... that is not what I call 'sectioned by manufacturer'
I am a new user, but this is not so confusing for me.
TechN9Ne1730 said:
I am not very active on this site mainly because my old phone was never given a forum here(Moto Backflip) but wanted to comment anyways because I hope to be more active now that I have a D2G. Anyways in regards to this issue at hand, I am sorry to say but really? I dont mean to sound like a smart.. but you really expect people to read that? Much less for new members to find it..
I think maybe what people mean when they say sorting things by device is like this:
Motorola: Category
-Flipout(forum)
--General(sub-forum)
--Accessories(sub-forum)
--Development(sub-forum)
-Droid 2
--General(sub-forum)
--Accessories(sub-forum)
--Development(sub-forum)
Then if you set the sub-forums not to set on the forum index, this shortens the forum index substantially making it much quicker and easier to find your device. Like I said I am just assuming on that, so if I am wrong, this would be my suggestion on the matter.
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ivolol said:
How so? If I go to http://forum.xda-developers.com/index.php and then scroll down, I will find HTC devices in-between samsung and motarola ones, etc... that is not what I call 'sectioned by manufacturer'
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Go to the HOMEPAGE you told me to.
click the COMPACT VEIW at the top.
it was mentioned in my NEW USER GUIDE i told you to go to!
here is one page... look at the bottom wher it says HTC DEVICES.... that would be a list of all HTC devices...
Click "COMPACT VIEW" your wish is granted. ...errr was granted.... long ago...
or you can use the Quick forum jump... also shown below. try it sometime. its the big yellow button that says "Devices by OS
or Manufacutrer" pretty much the exact words you used!. Actually it is VVVV THERE. see it? the "V" arrows point to it!
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Guys..
Why so much of a hustle? I usually search indexes using ctrl+F or whatever is the search function for your browser. [sry, i didn't really read all the posts in the thread, maybe it doesn't even have to do with anything]
(still hunting the 10th post for that "10 posts limit")
Mourer09 said:
Rageing you're saying the exact idea I was saying. Just how its sorted by os or mfg but if it was setup like that by default it makes a great first impression for new users and for fast easy searching among the forums
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Hi Mourer09
Were you not asking whether it was possible to sort them that way? I was actually saying that they have done so with the drop down list at the top of the site
Will all due respect to all the great developers I just want to know how does one define what is development and what is not.
Since the day I have been using Smartphones ( PPC6700), I have been using different custom ROMs. No one has built it from scratch, they were all provided by the CellPhone Makers and Cell Service providers combined. Then the developers took that and then edited it to make it faster, better etc.
Now strongsteve takes the base and then ODEXES the DEODEXED parts and then provides awesome ROM. Developers who provide De-Odexed ROM, do not provide the ODEXED version of the same ROM, that makes me think that what ever Steve does was not there and he did something that made it into flash able ROM, then why is it not considered Development. He is such a great asset and is forced to Post his Fully Functional Odexed ROM in general section. I think its not fair.
I know people will flame me for this, and that is fine, it will not change my bank balance so I do not care, but I just wanted to voice my opinion and also learn about the definition of development.
Again this is not an attack on other developers, without you guys Android would be nothing but 2nd best option after IOS, right now in my opinion it wold be an insult to Android to speak about it in the same breath as iOS, and all this is due to only you guys ( Developers). I keep flashing all your ( De-odexed and Odexed) ROMs as I like novelty and also can help in testing.
You know, I've never understood why people get so bent out of shape about the development section here. I'm a member of many different forums that cover all kinds of different topics, including other Android forums. Threads get posted in the wrong section on EVERY forum just about every day. This is the ONLY site where people get all bent out of shape because of it, and members are threatened with an "infraction" simply for posting something in the wrong place. Every other site, a moderator simply moves the thread to the proper location and provides a polite explanation.
They came up with the whole 10 post thing before you are allowed to post in the development section, but just because someone has 10 posts doesn't mean they are developing something. Now we have people spamming the other forums just to get their 10 posts in.
Why not just make it so only developers are able to post new threads in the development section?
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I have been reading the development forums since release day on the E4GT. I flash different ROMS several times a week and have tried them all, but I can't relay my experiences with each different ROM because I don't have the ten posts. This looks like a good time to make my first of ten useless spam posts in the general forum to be able to post in the dev section.
I appreciate all the great ROMS, Kernels, Themes, Mods and everything else created by all the talented coders in this community. IMO, a great piece of work is a great piece of work, It doesn't make a hill of beans difference to me which section its posted in.
The reason most people use deodexed is because it's flexible. If you use any odexed ROM, you're stuck with it's theme. But that eliminates the problem in StrongSteve's case because he's got the ICS stock odexed verison.
Its not about odexed or de-odexed
Overstew said:
The reason most people use deodexed is because it's flexible. If you use any odexed ROM, you're stuck with it's theme. But that eliminates the problem in StrongSteve's case because he's got the ICS stock odexed verison.
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Hi my post was not about odexed or deodexed that debate will go on for ever...I use all the roms that are posted...
I generally post for asking questions when I need help..This is the first time I have posted to complain that its was not fair to consider what Steve does as non-development...If you take parts of the apps and edit then and then put them all together and make it Bootable Installable ROM then it means development and Steve does much much beyond just that...He was being nice by not complaining about it and he did post his work in General section and I felt it bad so I spoke out nothing much.
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I have been reading the development forums since release day on the E4GT. I flash different ROMS several times a week and have tried them all, but I can't relay my experiences with each different ROM because I don't have the ten posts. This looks like a good time to make my first of ten useless spam posts in the general forum to be able to post in the dev section.
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lol me too
asteetva said:
Will all due respect to all the great developers I just want to know how does one define what is development and what is not.
Since the day I have been using Smartphones ( PPC6700), I have been using different custom ROMs. No one has built it from scratch, they were all provided by the CellPhone Makers and Cell Service providers combined. Then the developers took that and then edited it to make it faster, better etc.
Now strongsteve takes the base and then ODEXES the DEODEXED parts and then provides awesome ROM. Developers who provide De-Odexed ROM, do not provide the ODEXED version of the same ROM, that makes me think that what ever Steve does was not there and he did something that made it into flash able ROM, then why is it not considered Development. He is such a great asset and is forced to Post his Fully Functional Odexed ROM in general section. I think its not fair.
I know people will flame me for this, and that is fine, it will not change my bank balance so I do not care, but I just wanted to voice my opinion and also learn about the definition of development.
Again this is not an attack on other developers, without you guys Android would be nothing but 2nd best option after IOS, right now in my opinion it wold be an insult to Android to speak about it in the same breath as iOS, and all this is due to only you guys ( Developers). I keep flashing all your ( De-odexed and Odexed) ROMs as I like novelty and also can help in testing.
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This has already been talked about, discussed, hashed over and the dead horse has been beaten - it's a dead discussion about Strongsteve - he hasn't left XDA and even stated that he never called himself a developer and didn't care where his stuff was - so I think you've missed something.
If you want to discuss something like this - I suggest you redirect your initial comments and not bring up dead issues - you'll only inflame what was already overblown and old news now.
OP give yourself a big pat on the back for beating a dead horse.
nice thread bro
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I think the point has been made - closing the thread
The thing I hate about forums is that when a topic is posted, it stays on track for the first few pages, but when you get to the 157th page, there's a conversation where one guy is wondering "Should I replace the ball joints on my Subaru?"
XDA is pretty good about moderating topics, but searching through pages and pages of text, hoping to find your answer that may or may not be in English, or have enough proper grammar to be sure you're not about to perform outta step with a certain procedure....It's daunting.
To me, the "Forum" needs to be brought outta the '70s when it was just a community bulletin board, and into the 21st century.
I have a proposition. A proposition to XDADevelopers. An idea. An idea that this forum could do that would put this forum on the forefront of other forums. An idea that, if implemented, other forums would look at this forum and want to do it the way XDADevelopers is doing it. A Forum is not just a website for discussion. It is literally a resource for people looking for information.
Proposition 1: Spelling and Grammar
If your gonna post in english, then you shud atleast make it readable. To put it properly: "If you're gonna post in English, the you should, at the very least, make your post readable". Too often, a six year old will post on how he was able to root his/her Galaxy Note II, and his/her instructions will read: "Just flash zip, the bot recover, then root, then turn off, done!" No one but that six year old can follow these instructions.
This site is a community of people who want to take control of the content on their phones, and make their phone as unique as the person who uses it. But, if everyone followed this six year old's instructions, we'd have a world full o' bricked phones.
Now, I realise that some of those who post are not six, but are adults from another country that are not used to typing proper English grammar. All, I would say to those people in that respect is that you may write in your post that you are not be responsible for any problems incurred in the risky business of tampering with a phone's operating system, but you could at least make the instructions clear enough that those who attempt to perform the same actions that you depict in your post will achieve the same result.
One idea on this is that if someone wants to post in English, and they know another forum member that has a better grasp on English, then that someone could PM that other member to help proofread the post before it is posted. That may seem like a big waste of time, but it would make this community more of a community when everyone is helping each other to help everyone else who will read this post.
Proposition 2: Front Page Updates and Editing
I have seen this being done on some forums (including this forum), but it doesn't appear to be mandatory. How would it be if it was mandatory?
A topic is posted. A procedure on rooting a device, let's say. The discussion gets going, and a few pages in, someone discovers an error in the post. The author makes a respective change. That's pretty much elementary.
Let's say, further into the discussion, someone encounters difficulty with a step in the procedure because one or more person's phone are different. The discussion continues until that difference is settled out. The front page should be edited to reflect this problem. Yes, every problem! But, in a structured way. An index on the front page. Structured in this way (or another): At the bottom of the front page, and index would appear:
Index
23 Jan 2016 If you have [this model phone], you may encounter [this condition]. Use [this procedure] to correct the condition.
The discussion of this condition starts here:
forum.xda-developers.com/blah/blah/balh and key notes on the conclusion can be found "here" and "here"
...and several similar entries afterwards. This kinda thing makes the forum post front page a searchable, informative page, with more to offer anyone who visits, and will benefit anyone. From the inexperienced, to the consummate professional.
Proposition 3: Multi-Threaded Threads for multiple discussions in a single post.
Too often, we'll read a thread, and someone will ask "I got [this model phone], and I'm having [this problem]", and we'll recognise this as the problem we are having too. But, when we go looking for a response to this reply, we sometimes have to go four, five, six pages (not replies, Pages!) forward to find a response. What's worse is that sometimes the response is "Go home, Newbie!". That help no one.
When I look through a list of topics for my model phone or condition, I shy away from posts that have more than 20 pages of replies. If each of those pages was a searchable thread from the original discussion, it may not be as daunting a task to search through the post to find the information I am looking for.
These are the only three ideas I can think of. If I think or more, I would probably update this page!
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Ok. Serious reply. :good:
Spelling and grammar. Members here are from all over the world, and have to post in English. Many of them are at Google translate or something similar's mercy. So, tolerance my friend. If you find something too hard to understand, you can always just move on and ignore it.
Front page edits and updates. Those are entirely up to the opening poster of the thread. They can update if they wish, but it's their choice. They would never be forced to by XDA staff or automation of some sort. And any means of enforcing your ideas here would be impossible on a site this massive.
And your last point, there is a search thread function. It's a mystery to many, but it exists and works. Honest!
But thank you for the suggestions. :highfive:
Darth said:
And your last point, there is a search thread function. It's a mystery to many, but it exists and works. Honest!
But thank you for the suggestions. :highfive:
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I think that depends on the day and if you say the proper magic words to get it to work correctly.
I actually like the idea (assuming I understood from the long story) of having a link forward to replies of a post. There are link backs; it would be cool if your post got a link forward to this one.
M_T_M said:
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Too Long Didnt Read?
or
Too Long Did Read ? ?
Here is how you replace ball joints on a subaru...
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Wow.
XDA is THE leading forum for Android development and hacking and has been for many years. Nothing needs to be done to make it the best, because it IS the best.
Nothing is perfect of course, but improvements are ongoing even though we may feel they can be slow sometimes.
'Nuff said.
Hi everyone.
I just noticed that currently there's just one developer (Raghu varma) who's developing for our Hanoip devices; last month i noticed that his XDA threads had been closed by his own request. I searched a little more, and i noticed that many of his other development threads from other devices were also closed (by his request i guess)
Does this means that development for our device are kind of abandoned?
Also, there's a telegram group that publish his roms (and any other from this device, if any) and there aren't new posts since august 27.
Does anyone knows anything? :'s
I don't know, I'm using aosp13 and there are basically no bugs
i've found this,
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So...one guy in one device forum...made him stop all development for all devices? Sounds a bit extreme, but...I gotta say, I kinda understand where is he coming from with all this.
Hardware is expensive. Even building on a Google virtual machine costs money. And when you're building multiple ROMs for multiple devices, that means lots and lots of TBs of storage, and a pretty beefy computer so you can finish all that work preferably before New Year's.
Also, I know this kind of people. People who love to just complain about everything. I see them everywhere. And it drives me crazy. It's like nothing is good enough for them. They keep complaining and demanding stuff. And they tend to forget all the work and all the time that goes into this. They just don't appreciate it. I mean, it's not all about the money. Although, as I said, hardware is expensive, and...you do need to eat, once in a while. So...a little something would be really appreciated. But when you're doing it for free, and you don't even get a thank you; instead, you only see complaints and requests and people demanding things to be done in a certain way, in a certain time...you get sick of it pretty fast.
People like this don't care enough to see the good in anything. Everything is trash, everything is not worth anything (even when you get it for free!), so...yeah. The rest of the post has been removed (and I'm sure it was for a good reason), but I can imagine what was probably there before.
So I kinda understand his decision. Development is not easy. And it can be expensive, if you want hardware. So...yeah, when you see people like that who are just not ok with anything, you kinda wanna give up on everything and move on. Cause you feel like nothing is worth your time more than your own life and your own peace of mind.
xindefenggan said:
I don't know, I'm using aosp13 and there are basically no bugs
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How does one install that? And where to get it from?
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How does one install that? And where to get it from?
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The post has been closed, and the bluetooth of that rom can only be paired and cannot be connected to use and the android auto cannot be initialized. I think this may be related to the bluetooth failure. . . . . Well if it weren't for these two questions I think it's pretty good. . . . . Pity
@dhinesh_cool
@Raghu varma
THREAD CLEANED
XDA is in no way a ring for childish fights inherited from external chat groups. If you consider yourself being kanged on XDA, please provide the proofs to our moderation team for investigation. Meanwhile, keep the drama away from xda threads if you can't handle it by PM.
Thank you.
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The post has been closed, and the bluetooth of that rom can only be paired and cannot be connected to use and the android auto cannot be initialized. I think this may be related to the bluetooth failure. . . . . Well if it weren't for these two questions I think it's pretty good. . . . . Pity
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Well, in fact, I used three roms made by him. Among them, los does not have its own Google suite, which does not meet Google's requirements, so it can't run Android auto. However, aosp and pe come with Android auto and Google suite. but apparently they face the same bug there must be a bug somewhere and i will have to go back to the official rom to get me to use android auto
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@dhinesh_cool
@Raghu varma
THREAD CLEANED
XDA is in no way a ring for childish fights inherited from external chat groups. If you consider yourself being kanged on XDA, please provide the proofs to our moderation team for investigation. Meanwhile, keep the drama away from xda threads if you can't handle it by PM.
Thank you.
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To be honest there is nothing to hide but ultimately the background music with hate is just making me more headache to deal with these few haters. Even though if you look in to my works from last 3 years to till date. I am following my protocol with proper terms & conditions. So just dealing with few new haters in a positive way. On top of it i don't even care about other developers unless they do something to me or some friendship from long but ultimately if you look in to his posts, he himself posting all drama . So better he should surrender with his own scrap. I am out from this so kindly from now i request XDA moderators to ban all these story writers who post racism/criticism/nepotism stories.
By the way the Kang word doesn't even fit to me because ultimately according to GPL my kernel source is always publicly available and you can take that and share to XDA DRT team. Iam ready for it. Most importantly i already told to everyone in all places( inside & outside XDA )as well "if anyone have issues with authorship then come to me, will review and proceed accordingly but if i identify the commit is fishy then i will discard on face" but ultimately few knew only creating drama.
Thanks for your time moderator.
Cheers
because one useless guy there complain about bugs.... so simple