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[Idea] - Personalized WM6 ROMs

Hi there,
Just a thought I had today:
Since the ROM chefs are working so hard and getting little donations, and since we already come to a stage where there are several stable ROMs out there, maybe it is the time to a new era - a full personalized ROM.
In my mind, a user decides based on his understanding what he wants: Cingular settings or Orange UK, Adobe Reader LE vs. Clearview, HTC X button, Fast or Large Memory, black, blue or white skin, their own splash screen etc. as long as these are free apps.
Then a ROM Chef cooks for him exactly what he asks for. User pays for that service (note: for the service, not for the ROM) 10-15 $ or so and everyone's happy. ROM Masters can cook several a day making few thousands of $$$ a month, users will have their own favourable version, XDA will be as busy as a market in a rush hour and everyone will be happy.
Comments are welcome...

IMHO, this is a bad idea. The chefs aren't doing this to make money. They do it as a hobby or something they love doing, and paying for services goes against what XDA was built around. Donations are one thing, but this shouldn't be about money.
Besides, the way most are building their ROMs currently, with a base ROM and then cabs to personalize, should suffice for those users who aren't up to cooking their own.

MS would sue them so fast it wouldn't even be funny. It would be exactly the same as sites selling 'backup CDs' of software for $5.
As soon as there is a monetary requirement for the transfer of ROMs it will get shut down.
MS puts up with XDA because it does not show up on their 'pirate-radar'. "Look like a pirate and be treated like one..."
Besides, I like it the way it is. If I am going to much with my phone I've got to learn how to use it. OS reinstalls on cell phones are not exactly something mainstream anyways.

unusedusername said:
MS would sue them so fast it wouldn't even be funny. It would be exactly the same as sites selling 'backup CDs' of software for $5.
As soon as there is a monetary requirement for the transfer of ROMs it will get shut down.
MS puts up with XDA because it does not show up on their 'pirate-radar'. "Look like a pirate and be treated like one..."
Besides, I like it the way it is. If I am going to much with my phone I've got to learn how to use it. OS reinstalls on cell phones are not exactly something mainstream anyways.
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xda-dev did show up on the pirate radar and was asked to remove the ROM's on the FTP... so we do have to be carefull with what we are 'doing'

In other forums (for other devices) you can build you own ROM by selecting what packages you want very easy, and for free.
I think this is going to be needed soon, as there are more and more requests about for ROM's to be re-developed with or without such and such.
Look at this for an example I've used myself. It's for a Blue Angel though.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=302335

I think the bigger problem would be support - once a user pays for a service he will expect and demand support for all the small problems inherent in the native Rom.
I do like the idea of the build your own application posted by Percz.

Couldn't agree more, good thought but bad idea.
In the end don't be a cheap ass, if you are using someones ROM kick them back a few bucks for some brew and don't be a cheap ass. They may do it not expecting something but if its good work you'll be using for awhile buy the guy a beer. Every little bit helps.

Percz said:
In other forums (for other devices) you can build you own ROM by selecting what packages you want very easy, and for free.
I think this is going to be needed soon, as there are more and more requests about for ROM's to be re-developed with or without such and such.
Look at this for an example I've used myself. It's for a Blue Angel though.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=302335
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Now I would be intrested in an application like that. I'd love to be able to cook a ROM with just the apps I want.

O..M..G WM7 Hysteria !!!

I understand that many of you are excite about this new OS WM7 but, to be published daily variety of subjects, which is the most And so on.
I personally do not like the new visual OS, but this does not mean that it will be in live prew.
I thought, not stimulates, and every day to comment on, something we are not clear.
Who can say whether it prefers WM6.5 or WM7 in that situation you've never used WM 7???
One is to watch a preview online, but quite another thing to hold in your hands this phone and use this new OS.
Only then can express relevant opinions.
But before that happens, all other comparisons and topics are to put it mildly ridiculous
Regards

did this really deserve a completley new thread? you couldve posted this in the opinion thread. yes we know, ppl are going nuts over wp7s but come on, this is just adding to it

kel16harris said:
did this really deserve a completley new thread? you couldve posted this in the opinion thread. yes we know, ppl are going nuts over wp7s but come on, this is just adding to it
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Its only adding to it because there are people around who can't behave them selfs..
Thats how the "Game Over" tread got destroyed..
Neverthless this is a forum.. this is where we discus things.. but in a well ballanced way..

kel16harris said:
did this really deserve a completley new thread? you couldve posted this in the opinion thread. yes we know, ppl are going nuts over wp7s but come on, this is just adding to it
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1st i was thinking to wirte it on some already opened Thread but honestly they are ALOT and its hard to choice where to write exactly.
The best thing is to open New Thread many peoples to be able to see and eventualy stop with this crazy hysteria till the WM7 is out and we can test it by ourselfs.

Indeed, There is now way you know if WP7 is great or not so great. The OS is not tested by anyone, only a prebuild seen at a conference more than a half year before release. There is nothing known about how open the platform is, what kind of multitask it has, etc, etc.
More than half of the treads here are from people who are bashing WP7, without knowing what it will be at the end. People who are bashing the HD2 because it wont have an official update, and so on. :')
We will know much more at MIX, and you can decide for yourself if it's nice, when there are rom's here at xda. (they will after all, also for the HD2)

You can't stop people from spectaculating what the new OS will be or not. But I agree it's ridiculous to open new threads like "do you prefer WM 6.5 or WP7" when noone never had the chance to use it before. I also don't feel very comfortable with the things I've seen so far but it's even more ridiculous to write things along the line "WP7 sucks I switch to Android" because at this point noone knows what the OS will really be in the end.

If HTC would come out the closet already and say HD2 won't be getting an update, officially, they could actualy save energy on this planet. People would not complaint and whine about it anymore and move on.

hyellow said:
If HTC would come out the closet already and say HD2 won't be getting an update, officially, they could actualy save energy on this planet. People would not complaint and whine about it anymore and move on.
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still no reason to overact on it. You buy a phone if you need it now. If you buy a phone that's meant to run a OS that currently doesn't even exist then it's actually your own fault, not HTC's or Microsoft's.

hyellow said:
If HTC would come out the closet already and say HD2 won't be getting an update, officially, they could actualy save energy on this planet. People would not complaint and whine about it anymore and move on.
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Why do they have to say that? Will they have to say there will be no iphone os, android or palmos update? When you buy your pc do they have to say it wont have an update to Windows 8? (juli 2011)

tsalta said:
I understand that many of you are excite about this new OS WM7 but, to be published daily variety of subjects, which is the most And so on.
I personally do not like the new visual OS, but this does not mean that it will be in live prew.
I thought, not stimulates, and every day to comment on, something we are not clear.
Who can say whether it prefers WM6.5 or WM7 in that situation you've never used WM 7???
One is to watch a preview online, but quite another thing to hold in your hands this phone and use this new OS.
Only then can express relevant opinions.
But before that happens, all other comparisons and topics are to put it mildly ridiculous
Regards
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THREAD CONTENT
My motive
My goals
Introduction child-boards
Child boards under my recommendation
My Motive
However XDA is a wonderful community there is still some room for improvement. XDA is great, as so are 'most' of the people around here, but however it's greatness there is still
one thing that does sometimes annoy me, is its organisation..
Let's be honest some people don't know where they should start their thread of where to find stuff, on the other hand most people who do have those problems are mostly plain stupid or are to lazy to search.
Yet I believe, that a little re-organisation will be able to address this matter and makes our lives, as the lives of users, mods or developers a little easier.
Lucky for you guys, I am not the guy that just complains, without constructing or achieving a potential solution.
I already put some hard work in it and I am fully prepared to do even more if necessarily , but before you judge me, please read and see see what I had in mind.
My Goals
Optimizing your User Experience
Creating new Levels of User Potential
Simplifying current structures and its organisations
Smoother, Faster, Clearer and Better
Introducing child-boards
I know it looks plain simple and you can believe I barely made any changes. BUT THAT IS THE KEY! That is my GOAL, keeping things as slim as possible. Still a child board can achieve an immense difference just only in your experience.
Imagine this simple user interface: Where you'll be able find to find a sub-board with ONLY ROM Releases or just everything related to it, so as for kernels.
Still I am perfectly aware that the ANDROID development goes beyond, ROM's and Kernels, YET these 2 elements in my opinion the main reason why people go to XDA, or they create kernels and ROM's or they want to flash them.
~~~ Organisational Problems ~~~​
No offense but isn't this a little weird, that so many people voted, where they'd best place their own thread?
Or is still someone able to tell, where I should fit this topic? ​
Child boards under my recommendation:
Separated Product Model Boards:
Even though people might find it lame, just know flashing the wrong firmware onto your phone, can brick your device,
accidents easily occur and even I noticed I accidently clicked onto the G development without even noticing it after 5 min and however the difference might look minor to some of you.
Why would you put 2 devices in the same area, knowing they require different systems, firmware and work on different hardware, meaning even though they are in the same range, THEY STILL DEFER
General Talk:
News​This community has a lot of potential users, that are motivated and willing to uncover the latest and hottest news for their phone or their device and I am fully aware that we do have XDA Tv.
But still I strongly believe this could be a very very useful sub-forum. Moderators or Forum Staff can sticky their posts to announce new rules or competitions
and only selected members will be able to post news concerning their galaxy s2 or their device, to decrease chances of any spam topics.
So why would we miss out on this potential, why wouldn't we publish a story that for example, AGPS, allows you to get a faster GPS lock or people invented a new script to conserve 50% more battery than usual,
does it really harm anyone, that one story wouldn't be that interesting, as this place could offer you, a pool of different stories that might catch your interest.
Nobody is forced to publish something, neither are you to read, you'll only have the Galaxy S2 knowledge library right at your disposal.
Android Developent:
Seperated ROM & Kernel Board​Wouldn't it be way easier to find all your ROM releases in one place and ONLY them?
Would we even need updated indexes anymore, when this would all be clear and accessible in one single location,
would we even be bothered to posts polls as where should I put this thread as you might have already seen above?
Wouldn't this make your user experience more simpler finding in two clicks whatever you'd like?
I'd certainly vow for this!
ROM & Kernels Separated, everything else, in the android development thread (Applications, scripts, Tweaks, ...
Interactive Search Functions
MORE QUESTIONS OR SUGGESTIONS? FEEL FREE TO COMMENT OR ASK RIGHT AWAY

Wow - thank you for your well thought out and detailed posts. We actually do have some of the changes you are recommending in the pipeline and will certainly take your other recommendations into consideration in the future.

bitpushr said:
Wow - thank you for your well thought out and detailed posts. We actually do have some of the changes you are recommending in the pipeline and will certainly take your other recommendations into consideration in the future.
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You shouldn't' be thanking me, it's my privilege I can be part of this community.
I saw a lot of potential around here and I am not much of a scripter, neither am I able to cook mods or roms
But I just wanted to give something back in return
I am just a simple student from Belgium with some crazy ideas
Still I feel honored my contribution will be taken in consideration and if you just require my help
Or you want me to do something, don't even hesitate to ask
Yours sincerely, Intensity

I for one, love this new idea. The separated rom and kernel sections are superb, it would be so much easier for users to find what they want. I could spend time writing every little thing down, but im on a short schedule. All in all, I want this

The Archangel said:
I for one, love this new idea. The separated rom and kernel sections are superb, it would be so much easier for users to find what they want. I could spend time writing every little thing down, but im on a short schedule. All in all, I want this
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Even if you're time is short, you should be ashamed for not clicking the thank button
Haha just kidding, much appreciated

[Q] So....Lollipop on Find 7a?

So just curious. Are any devs working on or thinking of working on a port of Lollipop for the Find 7a? Haven't seen any hints of it in all my searching
Thanks!

It's on the way.
You can be sure, that at least omni and cm team are working on it.
Omni already confirmed that.
I think you will have to wait around 3-4 weeks.
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Sweet.

Really sad theres no news of official lollipop yet
Its really sad to see that oppo has such a good phone but the software development is far behind every one here. Flagships like s5 or htc one m8 are already on their way of getting official lollipop while these guys are still stuck with 4.4.4 betas.

Dirty unicorns are too I'm pretty sure.
And while Oppo isn't the quickest with their own software, they are the only manufacturer actively encouraging custom ROMs, actually helping us with rooting and lend a helping hand when accidentally bricking our phones instead like others that either don't care at all (best case) or laughingly flip us the bird and telling us the warranty is now void forever.
That's worth more to me. (and residing in Sweden usually means waiting months longer for updates than the rest of the world)
Custom ROMs have always been more fun than stock anyway. Android shouldn't be about being the best device out of the box, it should be like LEGOs, turning it into whatever you want it to be. Making it the best device for YOU
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systemfel said:
Dirty unicorns are too I'm pretty sure.
And while Oppo isn't the quickest with their own software, they are the only manufacturer actively encouraging custom ROMs, actually helping us with rooting and lend a helping hand when accidentally bricking our phones instead like others that either don't care at all (best case) or laughingly flip us the bird and telling us the warranty is now void forever.
That's worth more to me. (and residing in Sweden usually means waiting months longer for updates than the rest of the world)
Custom ROMs have always been more fun than stock anyway. Android shouldn't be about being the best device out of the box, it should be like LEGOs, turning it into whatever you want it to be. Making it the best device for YOU
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THIS!!
With all the hate in the Oppo forums, I honestly feel bad for Oppo. They encourage different ROM usage, and this is how they get treated? Ugh. I support Oppo with their different stance on Android!

BG64 said:
THIS!!
With all the hate in the Oppo forums, I honestly feel bad for Oppo. They encourage different ROM usage, and this is how they get treated? Ugh. I support Oppo with their different stance on Android!
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Yeah, and they ARE trying to improve their process for stock firmwares too. The problem is - they're obviously understaffed and having trouble hiring people with experience to fix this. (Since they have no physical presence in the West, and that makes it hard to hire Western developers as many aren't willing to relocate.)

From my end, I'm just happy it's being worked on. I have nothing but good things at this point to say about OPPO. Cool company.

Entropy512 said:
Yeah, and they ARE trying to improve their process for stock firmwares too. The problem is - they're obviously understaffed and having trouble hiring people with experience to fix this. (Since they have no physical presence in the West, and that makes it hard to hire Western developers as many aren't willing to relocate.)
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Very true, and they are the first Chinese smartphone manufacturer to really make a break for the international market. I'm sure there is quite a bit of hurdles that needs to be dealt with along the way.
In this day and age though, it would be fairly easy to arrange for some type of remote consulting work not requiring relocation.
I could think of a few developers on the spot that would be a tremendous gain for Oppo... *looking hintingly on Entropy512*
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lollipop rom for find 7/7a...anyone?
hello guys,
just wanna share this info,
just found this "a Lollipop rom for our beloved find 7/7a", is it for REAL ? wow
link : ht*ps://***.tinhte.vn/threads/moi-tai-ve-android-5-0-lollipop-cm12-cho-oppo-find-7-7a.2390065/
does anyone tried it yet ?
thanks
ShiftyPowers said:
So just curious. Are any devs working on or thinking of working on a port of Lollipop for the Find 7a? Haven't seen any hints of it in all my searching
Thanks!
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systemfel said:
Very true, and they are the first Chinese smartphone manufacturer to really make a break for the international market. I'm sure there is quite a bit of hurdles that needs to be dealt with along the way.
In this day and age though, it would be fairly easy to arrange for some type of remote consulting work not requiring relocation.
I could think of a few developers on the spot that would be a tremendous gain for Oppo... *looking hintingly on Entropy512*
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Part of the issue is, many of the people qualified to help Oppo here already HAVE jobs and might not want to leave them. Or if they want to leave them, the circumstances have to be right. For example, I really can't consider leaving my job unless it's a long-term thing. After the Cyngn N1 fiasco, I can understand Oppo being extremely cautious regarding making long-term commitments to be dependent on outside partners.

CyanogenMod is currently working on it. I must say it works pretty well considering it hasn't even made it to nightlies yet. It should be great once nightlies and milestones start rolling out.
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Question What happend to Raghu varma and moto g60/g40 development?

Hi everyone.
I just noticed that currently there's just one developer (Raghu varma) who's developing for our Hanoip devices; last month i noticed that his XDA threads had been closed by his own request. I searched a little more, and i noticed that many of his other development threads from other devices were also closed (by his request i guess)
Does this means that development for our device are kind of abandoned?
Also, there's a telegram group that publish his roms (and any other from this device, if any) and there aren't new posts since august 27.
Does anyone knows anything? :'s

I don't know, I'm using aosp13 and there are basically no bugs

i've found this,
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So...one guy in one device forum...made him stop all development for all devices? Sounds a bit extreme, but...I gotta say, I kinda understand where is he coming from with all this.
Hardware is expensive. Even building on a Google virtual machine costs money. And when you're building multiple ROMs for multiple devices, that means lots and lots of TBs of storage, and a pretty beefy computer so you can finish all that work preferably before New Year's.
Also, I know this kind of people. People who love to just complain about everything. I see them everywhere. And it drives me crazy. It's like nothing is good enough for them. They keep complaining and demanding stuff. And they tend to forget all the work and all the time that goes into this. They just don't appreciate it. I mean, it's not all about the money. Although, as I said, hardware is expensive, and...you do need to eat, once in a while. So...a little something would be really appreciated. But when you're doing it for free, and you don't even get a thank you; instead, you only see complaints and requests and people demanding things to be done in a certain way, in a certain time...you get sick of it pretty fast.
People like this don't care enough to see the good in anything. Everything is trash, everything is not worth anything (even when you get it for free!), so...yeah. The rest of the post has been removed (and I'm sure it was for a good reason), but I can imagine what was probably there before.
So I kinda understand his decision. Development is not easy. And it can be expensive, if you want hardware. So...yeah, when you see people like that who are just not ok with anything, you kinda wanna give up on everything and move on. Cause you feel like nothing is worth your time more than your own life and your own peace of mind.

xindefenggan said:
I don't know, I'm using aosp13 and there are basically no bugs
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How does one install that? And where to get it from?

mintyx said:
How does one install that? And where to get it from?
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The post has been closed, and the bluetooth of that rom can only be paired and cannot be connected to use and the android auto cannot be initialized. I think this may be related to the bluetooth failure. . . . . Well if it weren't for these two questions I think it's pretty good. . . . . Pity

@dhinesh_cool
@Raghu varma
THREAD CLEANED
XDA is in no way a ring for childish fights inherited from external chat groups. If you consider yourself being kanged on XDA, please provide the proofs to our moderation team for investigation. Meanwhile, keep the drama away from xda threads if you can't handle it by PM.
Thank you.

xindefenggan said:
The post has been closed, and the bluetooth of that rom can only be paired and cannot be connected to use and the android auto cannot be initialized. I think this may be related to the bluetooth failure. . . . . Well if it weren't for these two questions I think it's pretty good. . . . . Pity
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Well, in fact, I used three roms made by him. Among them, los does not have its own Google suite, which does not meet Google's requirements, so it can't run Android auto. However, aosp and pe come with Android auto and Google suite. but apparently they face the same bug there must be a bug somewhere and i will have to go back to the official rom to get me to use android auto

DaReDeViL said:
@dhinesh_cool
@Raghu varma
THREAD CLEANED
XDA is in no way a ring for childish fights inherited from external chat groups. If you consider yourself being kanged on XDA, please provide the proofs to our moderation team for investigation. Meanwhile, keep the drama away from xda threads if you can't handle it by PM.
Thank you.
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To be honest there is nothing to hide but ultimately the background music with hate is just making me more headache to deal with these few haters. Even though if you look in to my works from last 3 years to till date. I am following my protocol with proper terms & conditions. So just dealing with few new haters in a positive way. On top of it i don't even care about other developers unless they do something to me or some friendship from long but ultimately if you look in to his posts, he himself posting all drama . So better he should surrender with his own scrap. I am out from this so kindly from now i request XDA moderators to ban all these story writers who post racism/criticism/nepotism stories.
By the way the Kang word doesn't even fit to me because ultimately according to GPL my kernel source is always publicly available and you can take that and share to XDA DRT team. Iam ready for it. Most importantly i already told to everyone in all places( inside & outside XDA )as well "if anyone have issues with authorship then come to me, will review and proceed accordingly but if i identify the commit is fishy then i will discard on face" but ultimately few knew only creating drama.
Thanks for your time moderator.
Cheers

because one useless guy there complain about bugs.... so simple