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Does TMo always fall to edge when no 4g? No 3G?

Does T-mobile have anything between 4g and edge network? No 3G? Mine is either 4g or edge.

stevessvt said:
Does T-mobile have anything between 4g and edge network? No 3G? Mine is either 4g or edge.
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4G on TMobile is the 3G network with enhanced back-haul. So Edge is the fallback for 3G.

Yup is more like 3.5 or 3g on steroids, really fast but when you on edge is more like sprints network sometimes (at least where I am)
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jgalan14 said:
Yup is more like 3.5 or 3g on steroids, really fast but when you on edge is more like sprints network sometimes (at least where I am)
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I did not find Tmobile to be very fast at all, not compared to Verizon. I had a Tmobile Dell Streak 7 and it was extremely slow compared to my wife's Razr.

chamberc said:
I did not find Tmobile to be very fast at all, not compared to Verizon. I had a Tmobile Dell Streak 7 and it was extremely slow compared to my wife's Razr.
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Well is not as fast as lte but much better then Verizon or sprints 3g from personal experience it does really good where I use it
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been on tmobile for 4 years. the fall back is Edge. 3g appears very rarely
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I was on Verizon until last weekend. I had a Galaxy Nexus, and wife had a RAZR. Neither was as fast as this (when Im on 4G)

Holy crap that is fast. Hopefully my speeds on long island are that fast. So technically being that tmobile is 3g on steroids and not true 3g, battery life doesn't really suffer then?
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davwman said:
Holy crap that is fast. Hopefully my speeds on long island are that fast. So technically being that tmobile is 3g on steroids and not true 3g, battery life doesn't really suffer then?
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No compare to wimax or lte but it does compare to edge tho
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Tmobile has the best download speed but the crappiest upload speed where I live (Los Angeles area). However, upload is enough for normal internet usage since you usually don't upload stuff over cell phones..at least not I and most other people I know

davwman said:
Holy crap that is fast. Hopefully my speeds on long island are that fast. So technically being that tmobile is 3g on steroids and not true 3g, battery life doesn't really suffer then?
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I'm getting 4.5-5hours of on screen time. Easily 2+ hours over my galaxy nexus with the extended battery.

Your answer is on page 32 of the manual, page attached.

Thanks for posting that. So my question then is how come I've never seen "3G" on my phone?its either "4G" or "E".

stevessvt said:
Thanks for posting that. So my question then is how come I've never seen "3G" on my phone?its either "4G" or "E".
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Because T-Mobile thinks people are stupid and like to call their 3G network 4G. 4G is HSPA and HSPA+ combined to them.
Also it says "only seen while roaming" so they must not roam over 3G much.
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jgalan14 said:
Well is not as fast as lte but much better then Verizon or sprints 3g from personal experience it does really good where I use it
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Where in Vegas are you? I'm in north Las Vegas and my speeds don't look that fast Max I've had was 6mb down
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Snook321 said:
Where in Vegas are you? I'm in north Las Vegas and my speeds don't look that fast Max I've had was 6mb down
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I live in summerlin which I get really good speed, work on Craig Rd and Camino al Norte which I get decent up to 10mbps sometimes but if you go towards Centennial and aliante it gets a bit slower, where you located?
This test I just took is at mlk and Craig
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I live in summerlin which I get really good speed, work on Craig Rd and Camino al Norte which I get decent up to 10mbps sometimes but if you go towards Centennial and aliante it gets a bit slower, where you located?
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Centennial and Bruce. Just took another test and it went to 9mbs down.... its getting better
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Centennial and Bruce. Just took another test and it went to 9mbs down.... its getting better
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That's good, either way north Las Vegas and some spots on Las Vegas could be hit or miss but much better than sprint that I used to have, att has a good network but I find it too expensive
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Sprint LTE is live!

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http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/1496-lte-is-live/
I've spent time traveling around the Kansas City, KS metro area, and it seems most places are lit up now, especially in Olathe. Average speeds are a little disappointing considering these towers should have very little load. I've done approximately 350 speed tests so far.
I'm getting a consistant average of 10mbps down/up around the entire metro, with highs of 13mbps down/up and lows of 8mbps down/up during the day. Late at night speeds are 15mbps down/up around the metro for me. In my basement I only get about 6-7mbps down/up (with 0-1 bars) no matter the time of day.
The latency is outstanding! I've had pings as low as 42ms. The highest I have seen is 70ms, and the average is about 55ms. Great for remote desktop and video chat
I'll keep this updated with my findings. Highest test I have pulled so far has been 20 down/15 up.

Don't think so. Not here in Dallas yet.
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Noticed it too in Blue Springs, MO!
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Doesn't look quite as fast as Verizon late though
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Still very decent.
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With a signal like that, I get 28-33 Mbps down on Verizon.

I'll take unlimited and slower over faster and tiered any day of the week. Plus... screw Verizon and their nazi attitudes. Lol.
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adrynalyne said:
With a signal like that, I get 28-33 Mbps down on Verizon.
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Why do you constantly troll people?
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ryanguhr said:
I'll take unlimited and slower over faster and tiered any day of the week. Plus... screw Verizon and their nazi attitudes. Lol.
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You really think Sprint is going to stay unlimited with LTE that long?

Don't see why not that's their "thing".
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Here's what I get on Verizon w 3 bars not SUPER fast everywhere like fan boys may have you think.
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Don't see why not that's their "thing".
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Because they're broke, losing customers, and that's all they have to try to get people to stay. If they start improving and rolling out this LTE network widely and (gasp) maybe gain customers, they'll cut unlimited data just like AT&T and Verizon.

Actually I think spring will implement something like ting wireless sooner or later
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So we'll just see what happens. It's in the future big rip.
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martonikaj said:
Because they're broke, losing customers, and that's all they have to try to get people to stay. If they start improving and rolling out this LTE network widely and (gasp) maybe gain customers, they'll cut unlimited data just like AT&T and Verizon.
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Yeah, if that happens it'll suck. But all your VZW bootloaders will be encrypted and signed, your internet results will be sold to the highest bidder and your bill will be triple ours. Now get the hell out of our We Love Sprint Party!

gfropr said:
Here's what I get on Verizon w 3 bars not SUPER fast everywhere like fan boys may have you think.
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Here is a result while doing 70mph.... not too shabby ? Sprint LTE
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captblaze said:
Here is a result while doing 70mph.... not too shabby ? Sprint LTE
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Are you in Chicago or just connected to that speedtest server
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sweeet I hope Boston gets some love soon :l

BrianDigital said:
Actually I think spring will implement something like ting wireless sooner or later
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There's no money in that compared to running postpaid services. And they sell wholesale service to Ting already. Why would they turn themselves into a prepaid carrier? Think Sprint would go out of business before they did that.
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Yeah, if that happens it'll suck. But all your VZW bootloaders will be encrypted and signed, your internet results will be sold to the highest bidder and your bill will be triple ours. Now get the hell out of our We Love Sprint Party!
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I don't care that the bootloaders are encrypted on Verizon. I'm never going to be a customer there either... I like how you assume that just because I tell you that Sprint will dump UL data that I'm a Verizon customer.

Gonna Switch

I am about to switch to T-Mobile...
You guys want some Odexed Blue?
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hell ya we do :good:

strongsteve said:
I am about to switch to T-Mobile...
You guys want some Odexed Blue?
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I Have no idea what that is, but yes. And thank you!
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My body is ready
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Nice more option . I say do it
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How much better is T-mobile?
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strongsteve said:
How much better is T-mobile?
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Cheaper, great customer rep. Coverage is good In cities. Unlimited data
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adolfo778 said:
Cheaper, great customer rep. Coverage is good In cities. Unlimited data
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In cities makes me nervous. Do they just have absolutely no signal when driving from city to city (in between them?)

Ascertion said:
In cities makes me nervous. Do they just have absolutely no signal when driving from city to city (in between them?)
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They have EDGE outside of metropolitan areas. You'll almost always have voice signal. Everywhere.
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joshnichols189 said:
They have EDGE outside of metropolitan areas. You'll almost always have voice signal. Everywhere.
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I alternate between 4g and 3g here in cali
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adolfo778 said:
I alternate between 4g and 3g here in cali
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California probably has more priority than Ohio haha. I know all of the Chicago area has HSPA everywhere too though as does the highway up into Wisconsin.
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Man you have no idea, how much better it could be , what city are you on? And yes I want some blue, my background, sprint for 2-3 years, had evo lte, nexus s, epic touch, epic touch 2,iPhone 4s,evo 3d, etc. Got tired of there BS moved to tmobile I couldnt be any happier ill say you do it, another developer is well welcome
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Ascertion said:
In cities makes me nervous. Do they just have absolutely no signal when driving from city to city (in between them?)
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Actually, its mostly just in rural areas where you lose high speed data in my experience. Tmobiles alwas been good about covering major highways, especially Interstates.
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Man I had sprint for the past 10 years and tried many phones. Galaxy 3 (sprint) Iphone 4s, Epic Touch, Epic 4g, Evo 4g, Evo Shift, Motorola photon, Evo 3d, Sanyo 2700, Sanyo 4900, Sanyo vm5500, Blackberry Tour, Sanyo 7400, Sanyo 8200, samsung moment.
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What are the differences between Sprint and T-mobile platforms? How easy would it be to port my odexed blue? Also, does t-mobile utilize carrier IQ?
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strongsteve said:
What are the differences between Sprint and T-mobile platforms? How easy would it be to port my odexed blue? Also, does t-mobile utilize carrier IQ?
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Yes tmobile has carrier IQ and I don't think it would be too hard as long as you use tmobile base(people here seems to like wifi calling a lot) I'm not a developer but I look around and read a lot, Myn can give you some insight, he is planning to release his warm series for all carriers so he might be able to help you
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Damn.. carrier iq might be a deal breaker.
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strongsteve said:
Damn.. carrier iq might be a deal breaker.
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Why not root and remove it?
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Boston and surrounding suburbs have great HSPA+ SPEEDS. Now with the unlimited data plan T-Mobile is the best Carrier. Been with T-Mobile over 5 years, also have a Verizon account with great LTE speeds but IMO T-Mobile is the best.
Thanks T-Mobile.
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strongsteve said:
Damn.. carrier iq might be a deal breaker.
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Scary stuff.
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Chicago Sprint Live LTE

Finally. OMG 9 DOWN 4 UP YESSSSSS
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Funny stuff. These are the speeds I get with t-mobile on HSPA+ in and around Chicago. Oh well, it's better than the 56k speeds I was getting on Sprint earlier this year. Glad to see their working on things.
Hell, this wasn't even in Chicago though but out in Joliet/Shorewood.
My HSPA+ is now officially faster than both at&t and Sprint lte in Chicago. That is based off of my brothers lte on his one x. He was barely getting 5mbps on at&t lte.
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But how long can ya run at those speeds before they throttle you back?
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Paleryder said:
Finally. OMG 9 DOWN 4 UP YESSSSSS
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I hope that's just testing. That's pretty slow for LTE. Hopefully it'll get faster.
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itsalexaye90 said:
I hope that's just testing. That's pretty slow for LTE. Hopefully it'll get faster.
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These are around Joliet where I'm at.
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tommy0823 said:
These are around Joliet where I'm at.
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Those are pretty descent speeds.
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Paleryder said:
But how long can ya run at those speeds before they throttle you back?
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I have 5gb. More than enough for me.
I have make an honest effort to use it all.
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These are around Joliet where I'm at.
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Those are more in line with what I would expect from LTE. SPRINT or Verizon? If that's Sprint, that's great. If Verizon...well that's what I would expect from them.
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Well good thing for you T-Mobile users they have now added the Unlimited again.... no throttling from what heard the representative say
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iGoogleNexus said:
Well good thing for you T-Mobile users they have now added the Unlimited again.... no throttling from what heard the representative say
Nexus 7
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Yeah. If I start using more than 5gb I might switch to the unlimited but I doubt I will. I usually use like 3 on average. I used to only use around 1 and a half but I moved all my music to the cloud and stream now. That about doubled my data usage.
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What part of Chicago is this?
And T-Mobile throttles anyone over 5gb.
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Yes!!!
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Yes!!!
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Which part of Chicago? I've been getting LTE in the NW suburbs while at work, but lose it coming into the city (I live on the north side). I did see sporadic LTE in the Logan Square neighborhood over the weekend though.

Aurora, il
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I'm in Joliet, IL on AT&T 4G LTE I Get barely 6MB DL 2-3 bars of LTE

Boxxman said:
Which part of Chicago? I've been getting LTE in the NW suburbs while at work, but lose it coming into the city (I live on the north side). I did see sporadic LTE in the Logan Square neighborhood over the weekend though.
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that was in south burbs. Calumet/ Riverdale area. Also in orland/country club hills.
I get 4g in the city. Only 1 or 2 bars. Downtown and into Hyde Park Area
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I just got LTE for the first day here in los Angeles metro area on my way to work and gotta say I'm pretty excited with sprints work ...u can see today's date on the picture as well so just got it in the morning

[Q] How do you get Wimax until LTE arrives on S3?

Does anyone know of a hack/radio that will allow me to get 4G/WiMax until 4G/LTE comes to my area on my galaxy s3?

Lol.
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the radio doesn't support wimax
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Does anyone know of a hack/radio that will allow me to get 4G/WiMax until 4G/LTE comes to my area on my galaxy s3?
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Different antennas on the phone, so no, no hack can change your hardware.

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Did you read about your phone before you bought it? No where does it say this phone can get wimax.
And that's be because it's impossible.
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Did you read about your phone before you bought it? No where does it say this phone can get wimax.
And that's be because it's impossible.
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How is it impossible? You couldn't have 2 different antennas/radios?
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How is it impossible? You couldn't have 2 different antennas/radios?
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For a this phone out of the box yes it's impossible. Not only would you need the nonexistent hardware but also the nonexistent software to run the the nonexistent hardware.
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Wimax is pretty much dead next year sprint wouldn't waste the money. Hell wimax in Chicago is slower than 3g anyways, I dont see the point of its existence. This was kinda a funny question made me laugh.
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Speedin07si said:
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Did you read about your phone before you bought it? No where does it say this phone can get wimax.
And that's be because it's impossible.
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I'm just looking for an answer to my question. "Does anyone know of a hack/radio that will allow me to get 4G/WiMax until 4G/LTE comes to my area on my galaxy s3? "
For example there is a hack to get LTE to run on Nexus 4 http://techcrunch.com/2012/11/23/how-to-enable-4g-lte-on-the-google-nexus-4/

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Wimax is pretty much dead next year sprint wouldn't waste the money. Hell wimax in Chicago is slower than 3g anyways, I dont see the point of its existence. This was kinda a funny question made me laugh.
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I'm just looking for an answer to my question. "Does anyone know of a hack/radio that will allow me to get 4G/WiMax until 4G/LTE comes to my area on my galaxy s3? "
For example there is a hack to get LTE to run on Nexus 4 http://techcrunch.com/2012/11/23/how...oogle-nexus-4/

dkcarmona said:
I'm just looking for an answer to my question. "Does anyone know of a hack/radio that will allow me to get 4G/WiMax until 4G/LTE comes to my area on my galaxy s3? "
For example there is a hack to get LTE to run on Nexus 4 http://techcrunch.com/2012/11/23/how-to-enable-4g-lte-on-the-google-nexus-4/
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Yes, but that's not going to happen with the GSIII; as wimax is completely depricated and not compatible with LTE. So in short: you will not have wimax running pn any GSIII variant.

dkcarmona said:
I'm just looking for an answer to my question. "Does anyone know of a hack/radio that will allow me to get 4G/WiMax until 4G/LTE comes to my area on my galaxy s3? "
For example there is a hack to get LTE to run on Nexus 4 http://techcrunch.com/2012/11/23/how...oogle-nexus-4/
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That hack was only possible because of the lte chip and the quad band radio
And as far as i know it only works on a Canadian carrier telus
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I'm just looking for an answer to my question. "Does anyone know of a hack/radio that will allow me to get 4G/WiMax until 4G/LTE comes to my area on my galaxy s3? "
For example there is a hack to get LTE to run on Nexus 4 http://techcrunch.com/2012/11/23/how-to-enable-4g-lte-on-the-google-nexus-4/
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The Nexus 4 has a LTE chip, the S3 does not have a WiMAX chip so it is not and will not be possible.

Only two possible options:
- Don't buy the S3 until LTE gets to your area,
- Buy the S3 but also keep the Evo, use it as a WiFi hotspot for your S3.

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Lol.
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Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha...lord have mercy !!! I'm on the floor in stitches..

dkcarmona said:
I'm just looking for an answer to my question. "Does anyone know of a hack/radio that will allow me to get 4G/WiMax until 4G/LTE comes to my area on my galaxy s3? "
For example there is a hack to get LTE to run on Nexus 4 http://techcrunch.com/2012/11/23/how...oogle-nexus-4/
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That's not a hack. That's how you turn on 4g LTE on a T-Mo Nexus 4. We have the same settings for when Sprint activates LTE in your area...

the answer to your question is no its not possible. not only does the galaxy s3 not have the antennas to support wimax but there are also no radios available to flash to get it to work. most website advertise that lte phones on sprint will only be able to use 3g until lte arrives and if someone told you different, they obviously did not know what they were talking about. sorry but its literally not possible. you can ask a million different website and word your question a million different ways but it will not work.

dkcarmona said:
I'm just looking for an answer to my question. "Does anyone know of a hack/radio that will allow me to get 4G/WiMax until 4G/LTE comes to my area on my galaxy s3? "
For example there is a hack to get LTE to run on Nexus 4 http://techcrunch.com/2012/11/23/how-to-enable-4g-lte-on-the-google-nexus-4/
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The nexus 4 came shipped with an LTE radio,the words LONG TERM EVOLUTION pretty much explains why new phones ship with an LTE radio. WiMAX however is old technology already,and a waste of space, battery & money to manufacture that radio. WiMAX is its own tx/rx chip not built inside like snapdragons s4 SOC LTE
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