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Does TMo always fall to edge when no 4g? No 3G?

Does T-mobile have anything between 4g and edge network? No 3G? Mine is either 4g or edge.

stevessvt said:
Does T-mobile have anything between 4g and edge network? No 3G? Mine is either 4g or edge.
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4G on TMobile is the 3G network with enhanced back-haul. So Edge is the fallback for 3G.

Yup is more like 3.5 or 3g on steroids, really fast but when you on edge is more like sprints network sometimes (at least where I am)
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jgalan14 said:
Yup is more like 3.5 or 3g on steroids, really fast but when you on edge is more like sprints network sometimes (at least where I am)
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I did not find Tmobile to be very fast at all, not compared to Verizon. I had a Tmobile Dell Streak 7 and it was extremely slow compared to my wife's Razr.

chamberc said:
I did not find Tmobile to be very fast at all, not compared to Verizon. I had a Tmobile Dell Streak 7 and it was extremely slow compared to my wife's Razr.
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Well is not as fast as lte but much better then Verizon or sprints 3g from personal experience it does really good where I use it
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been on tmobile for 4 years. the fall back is Edge. 3g appears very rarely
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I was on Verizon until last weekend. I had a Galaxy Nexus, and wife had a RAZR. Neither was as fast as this (when Im on 4G)

Holy crap that is fast. Hopefully my speeds on long island are that fast. So technically being that tmobile is 3g on steroids and not true 3g, battery life doesn't really suffer then?
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davwman said:
Holy crap that is fast. Hopefully my speeds on long island are that fast. So technically being that tmobile is 3g on steroids and not true 3g, battery life doesn't really suffer then?
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No compare to wimax or lte but it does compare to edge tho
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Tmobile has the best download speed but the crappiest upload speed where I live (Los Angeles area). However, upload is enough for normal internet usage since you usually don't upload stuff over cell phones..at least not I and most other people I know

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Holy crap that is fast. Hopefully my speeds on long island are that fast. So technically being that tmobile is 3g on steroids and not true 3g, battery life doesn't really suffer then?
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I'm getting 4.5-5hours of on screen time. Easily 2+ hours over my galaxy nexus with the extended battery.

Your answer is on page 32 of the manual, page attached.

Thanks for posting that. So my question then is how come I've never seen "3G" on my phone?its either "4G" or "E".

stevessvt said:
Thanks for posting that. So my question then is how come I've never seen "3G" on my phone?its either "4G" or "E".
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Because T-Mobile thinks people are stupid and like to call their 3G network 4G. 4G is HSPA and HSPA+ combined to them.
Also it says "only seen while roaming" so they must not roam over 3G much.
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jgalan14 said:
Well is not as fast as lte but much better then Verizon or sprints 3g from personal experience it does really good where I use it
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Where in Vegas are you? I'm in north Las Vegas and my speeds don't look that fast Max I've had was 6mb down
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Snook321 said:
Where in Vegas are you? I'm in north Las Vegas and my speeds don't look that fast Max I've had was 6mb down
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I live in summerlin which I get really good speed, work on Craig Rd and Camino al Norte which I get decent up to 10mbps sometimes but if you go towards Centennial and aliante it gets a bit slower, where you located?
This test I just took is at mlk and Craig
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I live in summerlin which I get really good speed, work on Craig Rd and Camino al Norte which I get decent up to 10mbps sometimes but if you go towards Centennial and aliante it gets a bit slower, where you located?
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Centennial and Bruce. Just took another test and it went to 9mbs down.... its getting better
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Centennial and Bruce. Just took another test and it went to 9mbs down.... its getting better
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That's good, either way north Las Vegas and some spots on Las Vegas could be hit or miss but much better than sprint that I used to have, att has a good network but I find it too expensive
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Fastest LTE network?

OK.. So I'm not going to pretend I understand everything there is to know about wireless networks. But every day we see commercials from every cell phone company claiming they are the best, fastest and most reliable. What is the true skinny? Does anyone really know?
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I would assume it's verizon... but it also depends on where you live.

I just find it so funny.. And yet so confusing that everyone claims to be the best. That clearly cannot be the case.
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Verizon's is really fast and has a large bandwidth( hope I'm using that right) like a my buddy pulled down 20 mbps at the bar. But your going to pay a premium for it. I'm content with the speeds that I get with T-Mobile
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Verizon.... Friend gets a constant 18+mbps and hit a 30mbps
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Yea as all the others stated here in New York City Verizon is the fastest. But the monthly bill that follows as well as the taxes and frees aren't worth it. I had a Gnex on their network for about 4 months then sold the phone and terminated my contract $360 to move to the $30 monthly 4g plan with my white gsm nexus I bought off ebay
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Yea as all the others stated here in New York City Verizon is the fastest. But the monthly bill that follows as well as the taxes and frees aren't worth it. I had a Gnex on their network for about 4 months then sold the phone and terminated my contract $360 to move to the $30 monthly 4g plan with my white gsm nexus I bought off ebay
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Same here
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On Verizon. Took this a few months ago but I could def do it again
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My friend pulled 35mbps on virgin mobile LTE where I live. She consistently can pull that too. On my HSDPA model I pull 18mbps consistently with virgin mobile.

Yep Verizon will win and make you broke at the same time!

OK..i too can pull super fast speeds as well on my vzw nexus. My question however is how do the other networks claim they are the fastest? We have all seen and heard the commercials. I know all about marketing and what not. Are they just lying? Or is there something I'm missing?
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patsfan1130 said:
OK..i too can pull super fast speeds as well on my vzw nexus. My question however is how do the other networks claim they are the fastest? We have all seen and heard the commercials. I know all about marketing and what not. Are they just lying? Or is there something I'm missing?
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Well nobody is going to say they are the slowest. Just because they say something doesn't make it true

patsfan1130 said:
OK..i too can pull super fast speeds as well on my vzw nexus. My question however is how do the other networks claim they are the fastest? We have all seen and heard the commercials. I know all about marketing and what not. Are they just lying? Or is there something I'm missing?
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It's all about the wording. T-mobile will say they have the fastest 4G network (HSPA+) which is true. And in AT&T commercials they claim to have the largest 4G network..which is also true. Neither carrier even touches on LTE when talking about largest or fastest, because they can't compete there.

Verizon is fastest i think
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It depends where you live. Like on average where I work att is a hair faster than Verizon but in most areas you'll find the roles reversed. Also look to see sprints speeds. Their network is pretty empty so you'll probably see better speeds.
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Verizon in warner robins Ga. Most places I go are 20+ DL speeds. Rare I get less than 15.

This was taken while driving through Indianapolis a couple days ago on AT&T's LTE network.
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slifer315 said:
This was taken while driving through Indianapolis a couple days ago on AT&T's LTE network.
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On what device? You need to compare same device, otherwise its pointless.
Allow me to explain. Android uses buffers for the network in the initramfs. Manufacturers like to tweak these. You can essentially trick a speedtest into reporting over 100Mbps down. This is how the Thunderbolt was pulling 60+ with LTE at times.
Speedtests are fun but fall under the same trap as most benchmarks, and are really not indicative of true performance.

patsfan1130 said:
OK..i too can pull super fast speeds as well on my vzw nexus. My question however is how do the other networks claim they are the fastest? We have all seen and heard the commercials. I know all about marketing and what not. Are they just lying? Or is there something I'm missing?
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If you look at the commercials T-Mobile claims there android phones are faster than every other companies iPhone which would be true seeing how the iPhone is only 3g. Hands down Verizon is the fastest in my eyes. I don't mind paying the price for the speeds. Check out my signature that was the fastest I got but stopped testing because I realized I used over 500 mb of data doing speed tests alone

Accidentally thanked you but it wouldn't hurt ehh? But in his sig. it does say Galaxy Nexus.
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Wow sprint has upped there game!!

So I live in Spokane WA my wife sent me this image of there new network speeds she is getting now bare in mind we used to get 76kbps to 100kbps. Very happy when I get back from training 5 months of hell Almost done hooah
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So I live in Spokane WA my wife sent me this image of there new network speeds she is getting now bare in mind we used to get 76kbps to 100kbps. Very happy when I get back from deployment I will to hooah
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I get about 18 mbs down!

On 4g lte smart one :what:
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Walterboro, SC
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Full bars... nice.
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Somehow, sitting in the same exact spot, after a few mins, it magically switched to 4G:
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bsanto9 said:
So I live in Spokane WA my wife sent me this image of there new network speeds she is getting now bare in mind we used to get 76kbps to 100kbps. Very happy when I get back from deployment I will to hooah
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Thank you for serving our country.

Your welcome I believe in freedom and I will fight for it tooth and nail!!!!!
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How about this for progress(or lack there of) in a major city. Big thumbsdown to Sprint in Dallas area.

I did want to say I got promoted last week I'm now an e5 Sgt US Army this is a big accomplishment for me and I'm the proudest i can be to be apart of a great branch and of our troops everywhere and please keep our soldiers in your prayers. Hooah!!! And thanks for all the nerds and geeks out there because without you guys I wouldn't have a way to satisfy my geekdom. :beer: cheers to USA
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bsanto9 said:
I did want to say I got promoted last week I'm now an e5 Sgt US Army this is a big accomplishment for me and I'm the proudest i can be to be apart of a great branch and of our troops everywhere and please keep our soldiers in your prayers. Hooah!!! And thanks for all the nerds and geeks out there because without you guys I wouldn't have a way to satisfy my geekdom. :beer: cheers to USA
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Big congratulations. :good: Stay safe and thank you for your service.

Vdubtx said:
How about this for progress(or lack there of) in a major city. Big thumbsdown to Sprint in Dallas area.
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I feel you. It's the same in Austin, no LTE.
Yet, somehow, ****ing Waco, Texas has LTE.

HanMan5000 said:
I feel you. It's the same in Austin, no LTE.
Yet, somehow, ****ing Waco, Texas has LTE.
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Round Rock got some LTE action yesterday!!! I am closer to Manor but it must mean Austin is close!
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BTW here is the link http://s4gru.com/index.php?/topic/1...ction-here/page__st__360__p__47125#entry47125

In Orlando... they are working on the towers recently.. I hope this is a sign of things to come
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Humzaman said:
Full bars... nice.
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By default on Sprint phones the bars only indicate VOICE coverage. They have nothing to do with 3G EVDO or 4G LTE reception. I have aseen a few custom ROMs that split the bars into two for voice and data, but the regular software doesn't make this distinction.
There is a chance you could be connected to one tower for voice but evdo is down on it so you are using a different tower for data, and an even higher likelihood with LTE since most towers haven't been upgraded yet.

Top one is from this evening in New Braunfels. Nice.

bsanto9 said:
So I live in Spokane WA my wife sent me this image of there new network speeds she is getting now bare in mind we used to get 76kbps to 100kbps. Very happy when I get back from deployment I will to hooah
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Hey Santo, I have to agree. I live up in Marysville Washington and I used to only get 30-120kbps from 3g. Now I'm up to like 1mb. It could be the new phone radio technology to though
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HanMan5000 said:
I feel you. It's the same in Austin, no LTE.
Yet, somehow, ****ing Waco, Texas has LTE.
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Must be you phone, I get LTE and better 3G than that I stay in Dallas and I'm all over the city
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Been getting good service in Hawaii in the past few months
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4g is live in rockford Illinois on one side of town where i work. The slow speeds still persist at home no 4g .
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Chicago Sprint Live LTE

Finally. OMG 9 DOWN 4 UP YESSSSSS
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Funny stuff. These are the speeds I get with t-mobile on HSPA+ in and around Chicago. Oh well, it's better than the 56k speeds I was getting on Sprint earlier this year. Glad to see their working on things.
Hell, this wasn't even in Chicago though but out in Joliet/Shorewood.
My HSPA+ is now officially faster than both at&t and Sprint lte in Chicago. That is based off of my brothers lte on his one x. He was barely getting 5mbps on at&t lte.
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But how long can ya run at those speeds before they throttle you back?
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Finally. OMG 9 DOWN 4 UP YESSSSSS
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I hope that's just testing. That's pretty slow for LTE. Hopefully it'll get faster.
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I hope that's just testing. That's pretty slow for LTE. Hopefully it'll get faster.
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These are around Joliet where I'm at.
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These are around Joliet where I'm at.
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Those are pretty descent speeds.
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But how long can ya run at those speeds before they throttle you back?
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I have 5gb. More than enough for me.
I have make an honest effort to use it all.
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Those are more in line with what I would expect from LTE. SPRINT or Verizon? If that's Sprint, that's great. If Verizon...well that's what I would expect from them.
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Well good thing for you T-Mobile users they have now added the Unlimited again.... no throttling from what heard the representative say
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iGoogleNexus said:
Well good thing for you T-Mobile users they have now added the Unlimited again.... no throttling from what heard the representative say
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Yeah. If I start using more than 5gb I might switch to the unlimited but I doubt I will. I usually use like 3 on average. I used to only use around 1 and a half but I moved all my music to the cloud and stream now. That about doubled my data usage.
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What part of Chicago is this?
And T-Mobile throttles anyone over 5gb.
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Yes!!!
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Yes!!!
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Which part of Chicago? I've been getting LTE in the NW suburbs while at work, but lose it coming into the city (I live on the north side). I did see sporadic LTE in the Logan Square neighborhood over the weekend though.

Aurora, il
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I'm in Joliet, IL on AT&T 4G LTE I Get barely 6MB DL 2-3 bars of LTE

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Which part of Chicago? I've been getting LTE in the NW suburbs while at work, but lose it coming into the city (I live on the north side). I did see sporadic LTE in the Logan Square neighborhood over the weekend though.
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that was in south burbs. Calumet/ Riverdale area. Also in orland/country club hills.
I get 4g in the city. Only 1 or 2 bars. Downtown and into Hyde Park Area
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I just got LTE for the first day here in los Angeles metro area on my way to work and gotta say I'm pretty excited with sprints work ...u can see today's date on the picture as well so just got it in the morning

Horrible data speeds?

Is anyone else getting terrible data speeds even for sprint
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Dariste said:
Is anyone else getting terrible data speeds even for sprint
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Not any worse than typical sprint speeds
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Nope, they recently turned on 4g all over for me LTE everywhere I mainly travel
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I do on occasion, but its because our 3G network is over loaded. they have us set to get LTE @ some point. its all based on how hard your tower is being hit and very little to due with your phone or sprint as a whole.

all good here ; )
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I experienced this as well. I thought it was me because I reset some severs to
0.0.0.0
And 0
But when I changed the back data was still slow
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Yes! I'm wondering if it had anything to do with the software upgrade. My data used to be blazing fast. Now I can be stuck with 100-200 for download
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Mine are far better than they were on my 3D. Plus I get LTE now at work, love it.
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My data speeds are better than they were on my E4GT. We are still on 3G here.

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My data speeds are better than they were on my E4GT. We are still on 3G here.
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My et speeds were better for me than this. Even wifi seems slower, is weird
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Maybe Sprint is upgrading the towers there. I heard the speeds get slow while the work is under way...

New LTE towers in Austin installed this month. Lays just say I'm not complaining.
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Doesn't this phone not have EVDO but SVDO or something of nature? When it comes to 3G it all depends on your location to pick up SVDO speeds. During speedtests in my area, with full bars, I'll get 1.2mbps down but most of the time I struggle to hit 1. In my girlfriends neighborhood...it is constantly 2-3mbps down. I would imagine because her 3G towers are upgraded already? The only reason it doesn't bother me is because I actually have 4G LTE most of the time in my house and whenever I go outside or down the street etc.

Data speed is awful here....even close to the tower.
When I upgraded to the Note 2 they took away my discount. Now I have crappy data AND a higher bill. We aren't supposed to get LTE until end of 2013 in St. Louis. I really don't think we will get in the small town I live in at all. So, I think I am taking this back and switch to AT&T. What good is unlimited data if its so slow that I cant use it. At&t us the only option. T mobile and vzw have no coverage here. Sprint was of no help including the retentions department. BYE SPRINT
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Sighs...gotta be kidding me
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Sighs...gotta be kidding me
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That would be awesome for me. I easily hit under 100 at work with full signal.
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Switched towers in the speed test app. Forgot to screen shot the original test. Once I get to work tomorrow morning, ill redo the test and screen shoot it. Test was performed at home for this thread. There are two Sprint 4g w/LTE towers in the process of going live in my area (Lincoln Park, MI). Till Sprint gets on the ball with better service around here, will just have to put up with things. My phone was doing going whacko w/roaming m and "preparing network" mesgs. As I typed this, got a preparing network mesg. Again, people with patience are needed while on Sprint's service..lool.
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Doesn't this phone not have EVDO but SVDO or something of nature? When it comes to 3G it all depends on your location to pick up SVDO speeds. During speedtests in my area, with full bars, I'll get 1.2mbps down but most of the time I struggle to hit 1. In my girlfriends neighborhood...it is constantly 2-3mbps down. I would imagine because her 3G towers are upgraded already? The only reason it doesn't bother me is because I actually have 4G LTE most of the time in my house and whenever I go outside or down the street etc.
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What you're speaking of is eHPRD that's the high speed 3g you're seeing, if you're getting that, chances are LTE is nearby or being turned on soon
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Here's the new test while at my work. As you see huge difference then when at home. Thats due to being much closer to the tower.
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