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As stated from title , im wish to get an xperia arc since its camera is good and used sony x10 , which was fun flashing custom roms. Just wondering whether there are any problems with the phone and is there customs on the phones ?
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Personally, at this time, it's much better to look for a newer released phone. Probably a dual core with a bigger internal memory. But if camera is your main thing, then go for arc plus it's design is really a beauty. And for average usage, arc is enough.
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I wouldnt buy a sony again.
And is the arc's camera still the best? My friend says his S2 beats my arc's camera in test.
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As stated from title , im wish to get an xperia arc since its camera is good and used sony x10 , which was fun flashing custom roms. Just wondering whether there are any problems with the phone and is there customs on the phones ?
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I just got mine delivered today. Compared to X10, it is a jump forward. I like it so far, fast and responsive. Galaxy S2 looks good but at $150 more compared to arc.
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Personally, at this time, it's much better to look for a newer released phone. Probably a dual core with a bigger internal memory. But if camera is your main thing, then go for arc plus it's design is really a beauty. And for average usage, arc is enough.
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Hmmmm . Im using optimus 2x , and well not much customization like timescape and those things. Like those things when i was on x10 . Anyways got the 2x for gaming but then im growing older and my speed is getting slower so dual cores arent my thing anymore . So yea ill reconsider about getting the phone.
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I wouldnt buy a sony again.
And is the arc's camera still the best? My friend says his S2 beats my arc's camera in test.
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Not getting another dual core at the moment . Got another friend using a S2 . Dont wish to have the same phone as him ;P
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I just got mine delivered today. Compared to X10, it is a jump forward. I like it so far, fast and responsive. Galaxy S2 looks good but at $150 more compared to arc.
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Hahaha yea . S2 is abit more but dual cores are just for gaming for me but i dun game anymore. Internet browsing still looks good and better on a laptop hahahaha.
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Let's, first, see how things develop on the Galaxy SII/Galaxy series front. Apple has already got the Galaxy Tab 10.1 banned in Europe for copyright infringements, and it's seeking a ban of the Galaxy Tab and Galaxy range of phones in the US, too.
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I wouldnt buy a sony again.
And is the arc's camera still the best? My friend says his S2 beats my arc's camera in test.
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Arc's camera beats every other Android device when it comes to camera.
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Well, that's debatable. The SGS2 takes pretty good pictures as well.
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As stated from title , im wish to get an xperia arc since its camera is good and used sony x10 , which was fun flashing custom roms. Just wondering whether there are any problems with the phone and is there customs on the phones ?
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I have used following phones:
HTC Desire, Samsung Galaxy S, iPhone 4, Xperia X10 & Arc
I can say that I was never satisfied with the ugliness of HTC & cheapness of Samsung.
HTC Desire was always short of Internal Memory, Samsung KIES sucks a big time, touch screen is aweful.
iPhone is good phone but not for me, nothing much to do
Xperia X10 was a good effort from SE but lacks proper updates.
Xperia Arc is complete package:
1. Awesome design (best of all android devices, even better than iFail)
2. Best Camera.
3. Decent video recording.
4. Great Sound (compared to HTC, Samsung)
5. Impressive UI & touch screen.
6. Regular updates from SE as well.
only RAM is 512 (not a major problem)
But again, its my opinion
xperiax10.awesome said:
I have used following phones:
HTC Desire, Samsung Galaxy S, iPhone 4, Xperia X10 & Arc
I can say that I was never satisfied with the ugliness of HTC & cheapness of Samsung.
HTC Desire was always short of Internal Memory, Samsung KIES sucks a big time, touch screen is aweful.
iPhone is good phone but not for me, nothing much to do
Xperia X10 was a good effort from SE but lacks proper updates.
Xperia Arc is complete package:
1. Awesome design (best of all android devices, even better than iFail)
2. Best Camera.
3. Decent video recording.
4. Great Sound (compared to HTC, Samsung)
5. Impressive UI & touch screen.
6. Regular updates from SE as well.
only RAM is 512 (not a major problem)
But again, its my opinion
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Have to agree with this, had iPhone (3g) SE X1i, Motorola, Nokia...but i do like the Arc.
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Well, that's debatable. The SGS2 takes pretty good pictures as well.
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In low light also?
I think this will help you.
Here is the Camera Test(Not by ME):
http://www.gsmarena.com/piccmp.php3?idType=1&idPhone1=3619&idPhone2=3621&idPhone3=3598
From the above you can see ARC have Good Quality.
In My Opinion:
Camera Quality is very good when compared to SG,Desire.
i was using the X10 since sept 2010 and i was holding out for a SE dual core phone, but the X10 was just too slow.
I just got an Xperia Arc used on Craigslist, so it price was good.
As for the camera quality, every thing looks good on the camera screen, but i haven't reviewed or taken enough pictures to make a good judgement about the Xperia Arc's camera.
However, from the few that I have reviewed, it does take better night pictures, but they are FILLED with noise. I have kept all the photos on my SD card. I used to have a K750 --> K800 --> X10 --> Arc and I just keep moving the pictures over from the memory sticks and you definitely see the improvement in camera quality, except from the X10 --> Arc.
If you can get it for a good price, I would just upgrade, sell the X10 for whatever you can get, and then wait it out for a dual core SE or have fun with it until you decide to drop the big bucks for a SGS2 or something that is WAY faster.
The Arc's speed is much better than the X10's but it's still a bit laggy, esp with a huge SMS history and Whatpapp logs...
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Let's, first, see how things develop on the Galaxy SII/Galaxy series front. Apple has already got the Galaxy Tab 10.1 banned in Europe for copyright infringements, and it's seeking a ban of the Galaxy Tab and Galaxy range of phones in the US, too.
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Wow seriously? I hadn't heard that, on what grounds?
It was my second day owning an arc in the US. Of course I have been digging threads to find a way to easily root this US model. Also the new firmware update is not available for US. It makes me think, isn't the United States a big market for SE, why don't they have the US a little higher priority?
xperiax10.awesome said:
I have used following phones:
HTC Desire, Samsung Galaxy S, iPhone 4, Xperia X10 & Arc
I can say that I was never satisfied with the ugliness of HTC & cheapness of Samsung.
HTC Desire was always short of Internal Memory, Samsung KIES sucks a big time, touch screen is aweful.
iPhone is good phone but not for me, nothing much to do
Xperia X10 was a good effort from SE but lacks proper updates.
Xperia Arc is complete package:
1. Awesome design (best of all android devices, even better than iFail)
2. Best Camera.
3. Decent video recording.
4. Great Sound (compared to HTC, Samsung)
5. Impressive UI & touch screen.
6. Regular updates from SE as well.
only RAM is 512 (not a major problem)
But again, its my opinion
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Hahaha have to agree that SE makes designs that arent similar to other phones . Will still keep thinking till i get my next pay .
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svprm said:
I think this will help you.
Here is the Camera Test(Not by ME):
http://www.gsmarena.com/piccmp.php3?idType=1&idPhone1=3619&idPhone2=3621&idPhone3=3598
From the above you can see ARC have Good Quality.
In My Opinion:
Camera Quality is very good when compared to SG,Desire.
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Thx for the info
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pierreti said:
i was using the X10 since sept 2010 and i was holding out for a SE dual core phone, but the X10 was just too slow.
I just got an Xperia Arc used on Craigslist, so it price was good.
As for the camera quality, every thing looks good on the camera screen, but i haven't reviewed or taken enough pictures to make a good judgement about the Xperia Arc's camera.
However, from the few that I have reviewed, it does take better night pictures, but they are FILLED with noise. I have kept all the photos on my SD card. I used to have a K750 --> K800 --> X10 --> Arc and I just keep moving the pictures over from the memory sticks and you definitely see the improvement in camera quality, except from the X10 --> Arc.
If you can get it for a good price, I would just upgrade, sell the X10 for whatever you can get, and then wait it out for a dual core SE or have fun with it until you decide to drop the big bucks for a SGS2 or something that is WAY faster.
The Arc's speed is much better than the X10's but it's still a bit laggy, esp with a huge SMS history and Whatpapp logs...
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Hmmm planning to sell off my x10 but waiting for SE dual cores will take a long time and im not aiming dual cores that much . Hardly use it for gaming . Only listen to music , msn , calls ,msgs and couple of vids before i go to bed and alot of picture taking when im in my lecture halls. So yea, those things dont require much power
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My previous phone was HTC Desire HD, now my first choice is Samsung Galaxy Note but it is very very very expensive, i can get arc S about 250 Pounds cheaper, what should i do?????
Hows it like to have Xperia arc S? or arc
if you're not that much of a power user and just uses a smartphone for daily handheld internet browsing, some casual gaming, wants to take really good pictures, watch and listen to music and videos from time to time, and wants to be cool and stylish...
the arc/s is more than enough...it's just too dang sexy!
december is also a month where gadgets are an all time low (at least here in my country afaik) so if you're looking to buy an arc/s, xmas season would be a good time...
otherwise, if you're that techy person who likes to try out different stuff with smartphones of all sorts, then uhm imho, i'd wait for a better model that rolls out next year...
*the only thing i dislike about my arc is that it doesn't have a front cam... =(
even if it ain't dual core, i can pretty much utilize the most of it anyways...
Yup. Better wait for 2012 lineup now. Dual core & some say quad processor is a must
If you in the market for Sony wait better handsets are coming
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humadoon said:
My previous phone was HTC Desire HD, now my first choice is Samsung Galaxy Note but it is very very very expensive, i can get arc S about 250 Pounds cheaper, what should i do?????
Hows it like to have Xperia arc S? or arc
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go for arc s
Why settle for Arc if you can afford Arc S? Go for the ArcS mate! totally worth it.
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Why settle for Arc if you can afford Arc S? Go for the ArcS mate! totally worth it.
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The Arc S is just an overclocked Arc. You can do that yourself if you root it.
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I also came from desire hd. I use my arc more intensely than my desire hd. Stock rom rooted nothing more. Better battery life, better camera, better everyyhing. I play hd games for good hours experience once in a while lags.
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I suggest you to wait and see the 2012 lineup, maybe the Nozomi is the one for you, or maybe the galaxy Note is not as expensive as it is right now.
In my case I'm very happy with my Arc, specially with the design (the most beautifull up to date to me) and it can run all the apps that i need without problem.
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thanks All,
i have already ordered a Xperia Arc S, but unfortunately i am having issues with my mobile company over some previous address, well i will try to sort it out if not than i will push vodafone for Galaxy nexus.
My ARC is just arriving next week...
I am so eager to put my hands on it...
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Cool. You'll love it.
Haha I'm also from desire hd too..end using a Arc.
Well I like the physical buttons below.no need to press the top button to wake up the phone.
But might wanna get arc s..since it's on a 1.4ghz processor.
Then again there be many models that coming out on at least 1.5ghz dual core etc phones.
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Yes, I would also like to know how satisfied Arc owners are, if the rumors of the Arc HD (Nozomi) are true. It's a beautiful phone, and having owned three different iPhones, I can say that is the thing I miss the most since I switched in November to Android. I know that the SE Android phones have not exactly been spec kings, but has that been really noticeable with your current Arcs?
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Yes, I would also like to know how satisfied Arc owners are, if the rumors of the Arc HD (Nozomi) are true. It's a beautiful phone, and having owned three different iPhones, I can say that is the thing I miss the most since I switched in November to Android. I know that the SE Android phones have not exactly been spec kings, but has that been really noticeable with your current Arcs?
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Sorry Sony lovers but im not satisfied, im waiting for. Gs3 or iphone5 this will be my last Sony phone
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It's a lot faster than my old phone(LG optimus One). I'm satisfied.
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Yes, I would also like to know how satisfied Arc owners are, if the rumors of the Arc HD (Nozomi) are true. It's a beautiful phone, and having owned three different iPhones, I can say that is the thing I miss the most since I switched in November to Android. I know that the SE Android phones have not exactly been spec kings, but has that been really noticeable with your current Arcs?
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It's a quite satisfying phone to have, I love mine.
There are always phones that are better and phones that are worse though.
It's a never-ending process.
There is absolutely no difference between ARC or ARC S except Arc S has 1.4Ghz processor.
The only reason i upgraded to Arc S was for the 3D Multiangle, but SE never included that feature
If you get yourself an Arc S at least you won`t have the bother of unlocking bootloader to overclock
NB. I Still love my ARC, best phone i`ve ever had
rmk152 said:
There is absolutely no difference between ARC or ARC S except Arc S has 1.4Ghz processor.
The only reason i upgraded to Arc S was for the 3D Multiangle, but SE never included that feature
If you get yourself an Arc S at least you won`t have the bother of unlocking bootloader to overclock
NB. I Still love my ARC, best phone i`ve ever had
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Not true at all.
Arc S scores much better than Arc is every benchmark.
Plus is has double download/upload speed (from 7.2 to 14.4)
Anyway it's a great phone.
I'd say double core doesn't matter yet. Arc works like a charm.
Interesting. I'm guessing Sony has some optimization/HW acceleration that others don't have. I heard how smooth the SGSII (AT&T SGH-i777) was, but when I switched from the 4s, it still felt slower than either my 4 or 4s, and while it may have been better at surviving a fall, it just felt cheap. That's why I want to find out about the Sony devices before I waste any time (and $35) trying them out.
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I figure this is the best place to ask considering you guys have the Ion already.
I currently have an Xperia S and will be getting an S2 soon aswell( just cause I don't like the look of the S3), but is it worth me getting rid of my SXS and getting this device instead?
I'm dubious whether to or not because I've had my phone right from when it came out and seeing as it was meant to be a flagship handset, it didn't live up to that and had nothing but problems. Mainly problems with tint, laggy and battery life. Are these problems present on the Ion?
How has the phone been for you lot so far? Any real plus points or big negatives?
Any feedback about this device from yous would be great in helping me.
Thanks in advance!
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The ion is a really nice phone. I haven't had any lagging issues and the battery life has been better than I expected. The screen is gorgeous and everything works well. I know the ion isn't that much different from the S, but you'd have LTE, which is a good selling point. This phone flies on AT&T LTE.
It's good that it hasn't had any lagging issues yet, so at least that's an improvement.
The main thing I'm not liking about the Ion though, is that it's only running GB at the moment. That's disgraceful really, especially considering the lower end models from 2011 have got official ICS and unofficial JB. That's my main draw back to be honest.
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I figure this is the best place to ask considering you guys have the Ion already.
I currently have an Xperia S and will be getting an S2 soon aswell( just cause I don't like the look of the S3), but is it worth me getting rid of my SXS and getting this device instead?
I'm dubious whether to or not because I've had my phone right from when it came out and seeing as it was meant to be a flagship handset, it didn't live up to that and had nothing but problems. Mainly problems with tint, laggy and battery life. Are these problems present on the Ion?
How has the phone been for you lot so far? Any real plus points or big negatives?
Any feedback about this device from yous would be great in helping me.
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I have the ion, Xperia S and Xperia P. The ion is a great device. Big beautiful screen, fast and smooth OS and the LTE is screaming fast. Camera is good as are most Sony cameras. No issues with tint like the Xperia S and I haven't experienced any lag on any of these phones (save for the general slowdown of ICS on the Xperia S compared to GB) Battery life isn't the greatest for me, but then again with the ion I find myself using it more because of its screen size. Don't use my ipad to look stuff up as much since I got the ion.
The HDMI out on all these new Xperias is outstanding and with a livedock or the ion dock you can turn the device into a gaming console or mini computer. The 16gb built in plus the ability to add a microSD card is great.
I don't consider it coming with GB a downside because Sony's GB is incredibly smooth and stable. These phones fly with their build of GB. ICS is coming soon (within the next three months maybe as soon as 2-3 weeks) and the devs at Sony are working to get JB out for these phones. (I have a friend that works at Sony and I know this for a fact, they really want to get JB out asap.)
There isn't much development on the ion right now but hopefully that will change soon. The device is still new. If you like Sony phones I think its a can't miss especially because of the LTE.
Out of the devices I have I tend to use the Xperia P and ion the most then Xperia S then Lumia 900. (Yes I do switch between all of them regularly) The P is a better version of the S IMHO and the ion is just a great big screen device.
On a complete contrast to you, I've found my Xperia S to be running a lot smoother on ICS and with only minor lag rarely, whereas I had a lot of lag on GB. I seem to have had that experience the exact opposite to everyone else I've spoken to who has this phone. Regarding battery life, as long as it's better than Xperia S then I really don't mind. I'm a really heavy user so obviously I can't expect it to last a full day with my amount of usage.
The main thing with me is that my minds split pretty much 50/50.
From the reviews I've read, YouTube videos I've watched and even from reading here on XDA, it does sound like a great choice of phone. No matter what, it's gotta be a step up from Xperia S anyway
But, with it taking a maximum of a few months just to get the ICS update, by then the Xperia Mint should be coming out soon after (according to leaks) which will supposedly have ICS on there with JB update available right away. Does that not make the Ion redundant in reality?
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On a complete contrast to you, I've found my Xperia S to be running a lot smoother on ICS and with only minor lag rarely, whereas I had a lot of lag on GB. I seem to have had that experience the exact opposite to everyone else I've spoken to who has this phone. Regarding battery life, as long as it's better than Xperia S then I really don't mind. I'm a really heavy user so obviously I can't expect it to last a full day with my amount of usage.
The main thing with me is that my minds split pretty much 50/50.
From the reviews I've read, YouTube videos I've watched and even from reading here on XDA, it does sound like a great choice of phone. No matter what, it's gotta be a step up from Xperia S anyway
But, with it taking a maximum of a few months just to get the ICS update, by then the Xperia Mint should be coming out soon after (according to leaks) which will supposedly have ICS on there with JB update available right away. Does that not make the Ion redundant in reality?
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Doubt the mint will have JB right away. The mint should be out in the US on AT&T in October/November with ICS.
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Doubt the mint will have JB right away. The mint should be out in the US on AT&T in October/November with ICS.
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I doubt it either but if we're right and it hasn't, then it just shows that Sony isn't doing a lot for their reliability than they were as SE because realistically, by the end of this year/start of next year, quite a few of the high end phones will be running JB. Included in that list should be all the flagship phones, which the mint is supposed to be.
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I doubt it either but if we're right and it hasn't, then it just shows that Sony isn't doing a lot for their reliability than they were as SE because realistically, by the end of this year/start of next year, quite a few of the high end phones will be running JB. Included in that list should be all the flagship phones, which the mint is supposed to be.
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Given the track record of all the manufacturers and carriers I seriously doubt many phones will be running JB by Jan if any other than the Nexus devices especially here in the US. Maybe 2-3 other phones but I just don't see any more than that. Look how long ALL the manufacturers took for ICS. Yeah JB isn't as big an upgrade from ICS as it was for ICS from GB but I still don't see it happening. Sony has been the best so far with at least keeping their customers informed and even releasing betas.
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Given the track record of all the manufacturers and carriers I seriously doubt many phones will be running JB by Jan if any other than the Nexus devices especially here in the US. Maybe 2-3 other phones but I just don't see any more than that. Look how long ALL the manufacturers took for ICS. Yeah JB isn't as big an upgrade from ICS as it was for ICS from GB but I still don't see it happening. Sony has been the best so far with at least keeping their customers informed and even releasing betas.
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You really think Sony are the best as far as updates? Yeah they've kept customers informed as to releases, but only to a minimal extent. At least from what I've noticed. They generally just say "next update due for Q1" for example and won't release it until Q3 or 4.
I understand that they'd rather wait a bit longer and bring out a fully optimized version rather than release a buggy version sooner, but with each phone Sony are bringing out, they're falling further and further behind. In my opinion at least.
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Any other company pushed out ICS to their entire 2011 line? (I know the play didn't get it but is a niche phone) when you compare them to Motorola, htc, Samsung yeh I think Sony does the best with updates.
I love my defy, especially now with jelly bean CM10.
However acro s has just been released and it looks to offer the toughness of defy with a high end phone and camera.
Do you think it's with spending the money on or should I hold onto my defy for another year??
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Silverdace said:
I love my defy, especially now with jelly bean CM10.
However acro s has just been released and it looks to offer the toughness of defy with a high end phone and camera.
Do you think it's with spending the money on or should I hold onto my defy for another year??
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get the Xperia Acro S if :
1> the entirety of the design greatly appeals to you (it did on me)
2> you find the built - water-resistant and shock resistant - has some good use according to your lifestyle
3> the price range is acceptable
4>you're a big fan of Xperia (a "stick to it no matter what" kind of fan)
5>OS development and modding is not that important
but, consider looking somewhere else if :
1>OS upgrade, flashing, openness and OS development is important to you(you're better off getting Samsung or HTC)
2>you value the online community support structure (you're better off getting Samsung or HTC)
3>you want those OS development delivered on a timely manner (you're better off getting Samsung or HTC) either official or the XDA way.
there you go, i hope these somehow help you make the right choice.
Thanks for the good advice.
For me there is a conflict. I need water resistance for use outdoors but have also enjoyed the roms, mods and tweaking. The defy was the best of both worlds. I don't think it's stayed on the same rom for more than a few weeks!. I've had it for almost two years now.
I don't know why Motorola haven't bought out a defy 2. Bigger screen, better camera etc. instead there's defy +, defy mini, defy XT, all of which are pretty much the same and not worth upgrading from defy.
I'm contemplating buying a galaxy nexus as an indoor phone and keeping my defy as my outdoor media and GPS. However the acro s looked like it would let me have just the one phone.
I'll wait I think for a month or so until there's good reviews of acro s out. Acro s is priced just above galaxy s3 here in new Zealand but only just released so will prob drop in price quick.
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Do you know what carrier it will be for? I live in America and i can only get Tmobile phones. I need a tough phone like the defy, everyday, but i want something more powerful like the acro s. The only other phone thats powerful from tmobile here is the galaxy s3 which my girlfriend has but she has to charge it 3 times a day and i think i would break it in a month on accident. Thanks.
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get the Xperia Acro S if :
1> the entirety of the design greatly appeals to you (it did on me)
2> you find the built - water-resistant and shock resistant - has some good use according to your lifestyle
3> the price range is acceptable
4>you're a big fan of Xperia (a "stick to it no matter what" kind of fan)
5>OS development and modding is not that important
but, consider looking somewhere else if :
1>OS upgrade, flashing, openness and OS development is important to you(you're better off getting Samsung or HTC)
2>you value the online community support structure (you're better off getting Samsung or HTC)
3>you want those OS development delivered on a timely manner (you're better off getting Samsung or HTC) either official or the XDA way.
there you go, i hope these somehow help you make the right choice.
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i think devs on XPERIA device is not bad..
FXP team did a good job, and ORGANIZED, yes organized to did their job.
they port CM to all 2011 Xperia device (yes, CM10 included).
my friend using Xperia Live and Xperia Neo, got a nice real smoooooth CM.
and developing atmoshpere there on both device is hot, not dead..
as long as kernel is unlocked, there's always a possibilities for devs to develop it.
and xperia has many devs too.
and did you know, SONY is a nice vendor for the devs.
SONY put a official page on their website, a nice how to step-by-step UNLOCK BOOTLOADER OFFICIALY..
i kept my eye on xperia acro s for two months now, and my next phone will definitely be this one. and i think the development of xperia devices is not bad, especially when they get cyanogenmod. and im quite sure this device will be officially supported by the cm team.
and i agree with marhensa, if the bootloader is unlocked, development is much easier, and sony makes their bootloaders unlockable.
And about official updates, Sony comes right next to nexus phones in official updates .. they updated almost all of the 2011 Xperia lineup to ics . Better late then never
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I would buy it but sony only release the xperia go in germany, but thats holy crab, nothing better then my defy.
So i keep my defy ad buy him in autumn a big brother, the nexus seven. So outdoor smartphone and daily using nexus 7
I'm waiting for this piece of hardware as well. Its for the exact reasons I bought my defy for and why I will hopefully never have to but a non ip67 phone again.
Sean
lets not forget that:
- the defy is not ip67 officially
- the acro s is ip57, not ip67
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i think devs on XPERIA device is not bad..
FXP team did a good job, and ORGANIZED, yes organized to did their job.
they port CM to all 2011 Xperia device (yes, CM10 included).
my friend using Xperia Live and Xperia Neo, got a nice real smoooooth CM.
and developing atmoshpere there on both device is hot, not dead..
as long as kernel is unlocked, there's always a possibilities for devs to develop it.
and xperia has many devs too.
and did you know, SONY is a nice vendor for the devs.
SONY put a official page on their website, a nice how to step-by-step UNLOCK BOOTLOADER OFFICIALY..
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oh don't get me wrong there, bud. nothing about devs in general and here at XDA in particular.
my point being was - Sony's tough stance on keeping their phones superlocked - with bootloaders locked(and encrypted) in a way that makes it difficult for devs high and low to come up with diverse ROMs and mods, keeps the flashaholic community to a minimum level.
and yeah CM did very excellent (sorry for the double supras) job of porting ICS and even JB(in the works to most 2011 line). unlimited props to the team. and that was CM - not SE.compare it to both Samsung and HTC communities where in just a matter of weeks they'd have the ports ready and working, it took about what, a year for SE to brush in to the ICS bandwagon?..
also, look at the price range for an SE dual core device, almost up there with the far-quads.
talk about design, props to SE - i mean they make the loveliest phones out there. (exactly why i bought my ACRO HD).
i'm no big fan of SE - or any OEM for that matter - what matters to me is the experience i get out of a phone - or a device - or a product. And this is where SE loses big time to most big players year after year.
if my Acro HD has got better innard - like a quad maybe, this is going to be my phone for the next two years or so. no i'm highly tempted to get an S3.
again, please..don't tramp me just yet...i'm no hater.
and thanks for the reply. i appreciate being corrected constructively.
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oh don't get me wrong there, bud. nothing about devs in general and here at XDA in particular.
my point being was - Sony's tough stance on keeping their phones superlocked - with bootloaders locked(and encrypted) in a way that makes it difficult for devs high and low to come up with diverse ROMs and mods, keeps the flashaholic community to a minimum level.
and yeah CM did very excellent (sorry for the double supras) job of porting ICS and even JB(in the works to most 2011 line). unlimited props to the team. and that was CM - not SE.compare it to both Samsung and HTC communities where in just a matter of weeks they'd have the ports ready and working, it took about what, a year for SE to brush in to the ICS bandwagon?..
also, look at the price range for an SE dual core device, almost up there with the far-quads.
talk about design, props to SE - i mean they make the loveliest phones out there. (exactly why i bought my ACRO HD).
i'm no big fan of SE - or any OEM for that matter - what matters to me is the experience i get out of a phone - or a device - or a product. And this is where SE loses big time to most big players year after year.
if my Acro HD has got better innard - like a quad maybe, this is going to be my phone for the next two years or so. no i'm highly tempted to get an S3.
again, please..don't tramp me just yet...i'm no hater.
and thanks for the reply. i appreciate being corrected constructively.
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umm, i never had an android powered sony, but ive tried many, and from my experience, their software is greatly optimised, their single core devices are almost as smooth as a dual core device. thats why i think its worth buying a dual core sony instead of any quad core for the same price. and the sony stock software is very good, good features, quick, smooth. and they unlock most of their devices afaik. so my next phone will definitely be a sony. i dont like samsung, not just the software, the hardware either. htc is too pricy, especially that i dont wanna use sense ui, and thats extra money. i will never again buy a motorola for what they did to us defy users, and lg i simply dont trust. that leaves sony, which i always liked.
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umm, i never had an android powered sony, but ive tried many, and from my experience, their software is greatly optimised, their single core devices are almost as smooth as a dual core device. thats why i think its worth buying a dual core sony instead of any quad core for the same price. and the sony stock software is very good, good features, quick, smooth. and they unlock most of their devices afaik. so my next phone will definitely be a sony. i dont like samsung, not just the software, the hardware either. htc is too pricy, especially that i dont wanna use sense ui, and thats extra money. i will never again buy a motorola for what they did to us defy users, and lg i simply dont trust. that leaves sony, which i always liked.
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my little brother has got a defy too.. he loved it to the point of learning android programming so he could max his device the way he want's it. i've had 6 other phones while he held on to it. and i know first hand how moto left everyone in the dark with their i-dont-care attitude.
if you're saying though that SE makes very good OS/software for their phones, then i'm not really sure why we're here on XDA.
back to SE - goodluck with your next device. i hope they make better phones in their next release.
i'm about to sell my AcroHD and get me one of those jelly-able device.
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my little brother has got a defy too.. he loved it to the point of learning android programming so he could max his device the way he want's it. i've had 6 other phones while he held on to it. and i know first hand how moto left everyone in the dark with their i-dont-care attitude.
if you're saying though that SE makes very good OS/software for their phones, then i'm not really sure why we're here on XDA.
back to SE - goodluck with your next device. i hope they make better phones in their next release.
i'm about to sell my AcroHD and get me one of those jelly-able device.
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you misunderstood me, im not saying i want to stick to the stock sony sw, i just said that if i had to choose id choose sonys, but of course if theres a possibility to change to cm, i will be the first to go. and the acro s has nfc, hdmi, good hw, hd 4.3" display (anything above 4.3" is too big for me), and comes with ics, so it will definitely be updated to jb. so this is the perfect phone for me. the s3 with its 4.7" is waaay to big, and i dont like the look of it.
but guys..
sony is kindly gave OFFICIAL step bu step to unlock bootloader.
and after that, you know what..
the 2011 devices line up got CM by FXP..
it took so long to get CM is because bootloader isn't unlock at that time.
but after that, sony gives a new policy which is so good for any devs.
the warranty will get void of course, but that's a win win solution for devs + it's follower and company (sony)..
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I'm sure that Acro S is the best replacement for all Defy Owners , I think Quad-Core phones will eat up batteries.
For Samsung : I don't like their Plasticy devices that feels like a toy and Cheap construction and very easy to break ,but they have a big Dev community
For HTC and SONY they have a great build quality and nice dev followers but its a little bit over-priced
Acro S is the Up-coming phone unless HTC has released any IP57 or IP67 certified phones and i think all phones in the world should be IP57 cert
zakoo2 said:
lets not forget that:
- the defy is not ip67 officially
- the acro s is ip57, not ip67
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That one also baffles me ... What could possibly be the cause of the dust ingression protection level to decrease for acro S ...
Sony manages to maintain IP67 for Go ...
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That one also baffles me ... What could possibly be the cause of the dust ingression protection level to decrease for acro S ...
Sony manages to maintain IP67 for Go ...
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the acro s is bigger, and just how it is with the defy, the acro s plugs are protected by tiny plastic doors. although i dont relly get how its protected from water and not from dust
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the acro s is bigger, and just how it is with the defy, the acro s plugs are protected by tiny plastic doors. although i dont relly get how its protected from water and not from dust
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Just wanted to point out that DEFY+ is IP67 certified. So, yeah, the DEFY maybe doesn't have the official badge, but it was just another marketing trick to make people believe they actually improved the phone in multiple ways (CPU, chipset, graphics, IP67 certificate...things are different on DEFY and DEFY+ according to Motorola), while they are actually the same.
To make sure I was on topic - I find the Xperia line-up very ugly. If a real DEFY 2 doesn't show, my next phone will be an ATRIX 2
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Just wanted to point out that DEFY+ is IP67 certified. So, yeah, the DEFY maybe doesn't have the official badge, but it was just another marketing trick to make people believe they actually improved the phone in multiple ways (CPU, chipset, graphics, IP67 certificate...things are different on DEFY and DEFY+ according to Motorola), while they are actually the same.
To make sure I was on topic - I find the Xperia line-up very ugly. If a real DEFY 2 doesn't show, my next phone will be an ATRIX 2
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i actually find the xperia line-up nice and elegant, and i swore never to buy motorola again...
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Hello there,
I am a Sony Xperia S user for 11 months now and so far I have been largely satisfied with my device. I have always run on the Stock ROM, I have not unlocked my bootloader yet and I do not intend to do so.
However, in the light of recent events I find myself thinking of a switch to another phone with better characteristics and more recent hardware. The best deal seems to be Sony Xperia T - newer chip, better support from Sony; perhaps it would receive further JB updates (4.2, 4.3) as well. Still, its recent price is just above 300 euros - unlocked and without contract - in my country. In comparison, I still have to pay about 200 euros for my Xperia S to the end of my 2-year lease contract with my local mobile service provider. That's why I am considering paying off the remaining sum of the lease in advance and then selling my Xperia S for about the same amount of money.
There are several reasons why I am considering such a switch. For one, Sony does not seem too eager to support Xperia S any longer. Yes, the 4.1.2 JB update is on the way but it has been for several months now. The numerous delays, and I am not too interested in the respective reasons, have finally put me off this otherwise pretty good all-rounder phone. Second, we have to take into account that the Snapdragon S3 chip is already heavily outdated and it would most likely not receive any further software development. When considering the alternatives, Xperia T seems to be the best one, because of its price, hardware and software. I am very fond of Sony's interface, indeed.
So I wonder what is your opinion on the matter? Is Xperia T worth it to replace my Xperia S for the next couple of years?
This thread could provide a general discussion of Xperia S's future, too.
I think its time to move on. Im never going back to Sony unless they improve. Im keeping my phone for few months more. I just bought my Sony phone and Im pretty disappointed. HTC and Samsung have better phones than Sony why settle for Xperia T or V, if you can have better.
My friend got Xperia T, and i don't like that phone.
Move on something newer, keep in mind (snapdragon 600) will receive every update before S4 and S4pro
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Agree with electrash anyways sony is getting poorer and poorer when it comes to system updates
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It is made very clear by the moderators that threads condemning Sony is not allowed. This thread is going to get locked soon. However, I noticed it is always those few monkeys tryin to be funny, not able to listen to simple English. Sony might not be good in updating Xperia S, but they didn't break any promises and my current ICS build is flawless.
Sony might not reach Samsung's level yet but it has suppressed HTC greatly already. Those who don't know, HTC abandons HTC Sensation, the phone with the exact same CPU as Xperia S.
So has sony, it had forgotten about xperia u when jellybean was announced
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Rangeeshnathan said:
So has sony, it had forgotten about xperia u when jellybean was announced
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I own an Xperia U and it lags badly on ICS. They didnt abandon Xperia U. It is just not fit for JB. Anyways, Sony sales numbers have been steadily increasing YOY and already destroyed Motorola's and HTC's. Sony will continue to rise as 99% of customers dont give a damn about updates, fortunately.
Xperia go seems to have less hardware capabilities than xperia u, no??
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Rangeeshnathan said:
Xperia go seems to have less hardware capabilities than xperia u, no??
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LOL. Please don't play with me. Xperia Go have the exact same specification as Xperia U. Xperia Go have a lower screen resolution resulting better performance. Then you will ask Xperia J. Sigh, kids these days.
Excuse me then I'm sorry Mr lee
And lol I was not coming to xperia j
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R: Finding myself on a crossroad - maybe it is time to move on
Pretty much of your same opinion... I'm totally satisfied until now for what I've done with my Xperia S, but I really cannot stand anymore the politics of software update that Sony is pursuing.
And ok, my phone is fully unlocked and I tried a lot of custom roms to get closer to what is a pure android system, but to me those all are still full of bugs.
And to be honest, stock remains the best deal.
I'd like to switch to a pure Google Phone like the Nexus 4 but his great fragility, the weakness of the camera and the max 16gb of storage are three points that still makes me doubtful.
I'm considering the upcoming Galaxy S4 Nexus Edition...
When the official Sony JB update comes, everything changes. We can run custom ROMs without a flaw with the help of 3rd party developers. There has been rumors that Android 4.3 is still going to be JB. Even if we cant upgrade our phones to Android 5. The problem is our ROMs are'nt stable enough.
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When the official Sony JB update comes, everything changes. We can run custom ROMs without a flaw with the help of 3rd party developers. There has been rumors that Android 4.3 is still going to be JB. Even if we cant upgrade our phones to Android 5. The problem is our ROMs are'nt stable enough.
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Personally, the current ICS build is stable. Other than some Wifi drops, I dont see any major flaws in it.
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Personally, the current ICS build is stable. Other than some Wifi drops, I dont see any major flaws in it.
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The big problem about ICS is its very laggy, drains alot of battery and not smooth.
cabi.costa said:
Pretty much of your same opinion... I'm totally satisfied until now for what I've done with my Xperia S, but I really cannot stand anymore the politics of software update that Sony is pursuing.
And ok, my phone is fully unlocked and I tried a lot of custom roms to get closer to what is a pure android system, but to me those all are still full of bugs.
And to be honest, stock remains the best deal.
I'd like to switch to a pure Google Phone like the Nexus 4 but his great fragility, the weakness of the camera and the max 16gb of storage are three points that still makes me doubtful.
I'm considering the upcoming Galaxy S4 Nexus Edition...
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Yep, the Galaxy S phones are always a viable alternative, but I am not a big fan of Samsung. Too much plastic, and the user interface is somewhat dull and boring. Yes, the horsepower behind the back panel is immense but I am not a power user, not really. In fact, it turns out that Sony are the brand with the highest number of upper-mid-level devices at the moment (Xperia S, T; SP and ZR upcoming; not to mention all the derivatives like SL, TX, Ion, V, Acro S, etc., etc.) and I am rather leaning towards buying one such device. I am not too interested in the current flagship devices (Xperia Z, HTC One, Galaxy S4) since cheaper phones provide similar daily performance for some 2/3 of the price. Snapdragon S4 is one really capable platform and its wide availability makes it accessible to anyone.
To sum up, I am rather looking for a phone with a good manufacturer's support and expected updates till Android version 4.3, at least. The 16GB non-expandable storage of Nexus 4 is a deal-breaker for me as well. Maybe I will wait another couple of months, until SP and ZR get released and their prices decline to their true market values.
And guys, please stay on topic here. We are discussing Xperia S and its alternatives here, not Sony's customer policy in general. I know, there are many of you who are angry at the Japanese, I am somewhat dissatisfied myself. Anyway, please stop the rant because I believe this is a sensible topic and I do not want to see this thread closed. Thanks!
edit: nvm
I had similar thoughts too, until i realized that the hardware in my Xperia S is just fine for my needs for now. What is it you want to do with a newer chipset? And on the software side, I have my hopes on that things will improve somewhat once/if Sony releases the new kernel-sources.
This question has been as so many times, only you can decide what is best for you.
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