I figure this is the best place to ask considering you guys have the Ion already.
I currently have an Xperia S and will be getting an S2 soon aswell( just cause I don't like the look of the S3), but is it worth me getting rid of my SXS and getting this device instead?
I'm dubious whether to or not because I've had my phone right from when it came out and seeing as it was meant to be a flagship handset, it didn't live up to that and had nothing but problems. Mainly problems with tint, laggy and battery life. Are these problems present on the Ion?
How has the phone been for you lot so far? Any real plus points or big negatives?
Any feedback about this device from yous would be great in helping me.
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The ion is a really nice phone. I haven't had any lagging issues and the battery life has been better than I expected. The screen is gorgeous and everything works well. I know the ion isn't that much different from the S, but you'd have LTE, which is a good selling point. This phone flies on AT&T LTE.
It's good that it hasn't had any lagging issues yet, so at least that's an improvement.
The main thing I'm not liking about the Ion though, is that it's only running GB at the moment. That's disgraceful really, especially considering the lower end models from 2011 have got official ICS and unofficial JB. That's my main draw back to be honest.
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I figure this is the best place to ask considering you guys have the Ion already.
I currently have an Xperia S and will be getting an S2 soon aswell( just cause I don't like the look of the S3), but is it worth me getting rid of my SXS and getting this device instead?
I'm dubious whether to or not because I've had my phone right from when it came out and seeing as it was meant to be a flagship handset, it didn't live up to that and had nothing but problems. Mainly problems with tint, laggy and battery life. Are these problems present on the Ion?
How has the phone been for you lot so far? Any real plus points or big negatives?
Any feedback about this device from yous would be great in helping me.
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I have the ion, Xperia S and Xperia P. The ion is a great device. Big beautiful screen, fast and smooth OS and the LTE is screaming fast. Camera is good as are most Sony cameras. No issues with tint like the Xperia S and I haven't experienced any lag on any of these phones (save for the general slowdown of ICS on the Xperia S compared to GB) Battery life isn't the greatest for me, but then again with the ion I find myself using it more because of its screen size. Don't use my ipad to look stuff up as much since I got the ion.
The HDMI out on all these new Xperias is outstanding and with a livedock or the ion dock you can turn the device into a gaming console or mini computer. The 16gb built in plus the ability to add a microSD card is great.
I don't consider it coming with GB a downside because Sony's GB is incredibly smooth and stable. These phones fly with their build of GB. ICS is coming soon (within the next three months maybe as soon as 2-3 weeks) and the devs at Sony are working to get JB out for these phones. (I have a friend that works at Sony and I know this for a fact, they really want to get JB out asap.)
There isn't much development on the ion right now but hopefully that will change soon. The device is still new. If you like Sony phones I think its a can't miss especially because of the LTE.
Out of the devices I have I tend to use the Xperia P and ion the most then Xperia S then Lumia 900. (Yes I do switch between all of them regularly) The P is a better version of the S IMHO and the ion is just a great big screen device.
On a complete contrast to you, I've found my Xperia S to be running a lot smoother on ICS and with only minor lag rarely, whereas I had a lot of lag on GB. I seem to have had that experience the exact opposite to everyone else I've spoken to who has this phone. Regarding battery life, as long as it's better than Xperia S then I really don't mind. I'm a really heavy user so obviously I can't expect it to last a full day with my amount of usage.
The main thing with me is that my minds split pretty much 50/50.
From the reviews I've read, YouTube videos I've watched and even from reading here on XDA, it does sound like a great choice of phone. No matter what, it's gotta be a step up from Xperia S anyway
But, with it taking a maximum of a few months just to get the ICS update, by then the Xperia Mint should be coming out soon after (according to leaks) which will supposedly have ICS on there with JB update available right away. Does that not make the Ion redundant in reality?
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On a complete contrast to you, I've found my Xperia S to be running a lot smoother on ICS and with only minor lag rarely, whereas I had a lot of lag on GB. I seem to have had that experience the exact opposite to everyone else I've spoken to who has this phone. Regarding battery life, as long as it's better than Xperia S then I really don't mind. I'm a really heavy user so obviously I can't expect it to last a full day with my amount of usage.
The main thing with me is that my minds split pretty much 50/50.
From the reviews I've read, YouTube videos I've watched and even from reading here on XDA, it does sound like a great choice of phone. No matter what, it's gotta be a step up from Xperia S anyway
But, with it taking a maximum of a few months just to get the ICS update, by then the Xperia Mint should be coming out soon after (according to leaks) which will supposedly have ICS on there with JB update available right away. Does that not make the Ion redundant in reality?
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Doubt the mint will have JB right away. The mint should be out in the US on AT&T in October/November with ICS.
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Doubt the mint will have JB right away. The mint should be out in the US on AT&T in October/November with ICS.
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I doubt it either but if we're right and it hasn't, then it just shows that Sony isn't doing a lot for their reliability than they were as SE because realistically, by the end of this year/start of next year, quite a few of the high end phones will be running JB. Included in that list should be all the flagship phones, which the mint is supposed to be.
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I doubt it either but if we're right and it hasn't, then it just shows that Sony isn't doing a lot for their reliability than they were as SE because realistically, by the end of this year/start of next year, quite a few of the high end phones will be running JB. Included in that list should be all the flagship phones, which the mint is supposed to be.
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Given the track record of all the manufacturers and carriers I seriously doubt many phones will be running JB by Jan if any other than the Nexus devices especially here in the US. Maybe 2-3 other phones but I just don't see any more than that. Look how long ALL the manufacturers took for ICS. Yeah JB isn't as big an upgrade from ICS as it was for ICS from GB but I still don't see it happening. Sony has been the best so far with at least keeping their customers informed and even releasing betas.
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Given the track record of all the manufacturers and carriers I seriously doubt many phones will be running JB by Jan if any other than the Nexus devices especially here in the US. Maybe 2-3 other phones but I just don't see any more than that. Look how long ALL the manufacturers took for ICS. Yeah JB isn't as big an upgrade from ICS as it was for ICS from GB but I still don't see it happening. Sony has been the best so far with at least keeping their customers informed and even releasing betas.
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You really think Sony are the best as far as updates? Yeah they've kept customers informed as to releases, but only to a minimal extent. At least from what I've noticed. They generally just say "next update due for Q1" for example and won't release it until Q3 or 4.
I understand that they'd rather wait a bit longer and bring out a fully optimized version rather than release a buggy version sooner, but with each phone Sony are bringing out, they're falling further and further behind. In my opinion at least.
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Any other company pushed out ICS to their entire 2011 line? (I know the play didn't get it but is a niche phone) when you compare them to Motorola, htc, Samsung yeh I think Sony does the best with updates.
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I love my defy, especially now with jelly bean CM10.
However acro s has just been released and it looks to offer the toughness of defy with a high end phone and camera.
Do you think it's with spending the money on or should I hold onto my defy for another year??
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I love my defy, especially now with jelly bean CM10.
However acro s has just been released and it looks to offer the toughness of defy with a high end phone and camera.
Do you think it's with spending the money on or should I hold onto my defy for another year??
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get the Xperia Acro S if :
1> the entirety of the design greatly appeals to you (it did on me)
2> you find the built - water-resistant and shock resistant - has some good use according to your lifestyle
3> the price range is acceptable
4>you're a big fan of Xperia (a "stick to it no matter what" kind of fan)
5>OS development and modding is not that important
but, consider looking somewhere else if :
1>OS upgrade, flashing, openness and OS development is important to you(you're better off getting Samsung or HTC)
2>you value the online community support structure (you're better off getting Samsung or HTC)
3>you want those OS development delivered on a timely manner (you're better off getting Samsung or HTC) either official or the XDA way.
there you go, i hope these somehow help you make the right choice.
Thanks for the good advice.
For me there is a conflict. I need water resistance for use outdoors but have also enjoyed the roms, mods and tweaking. The defy was the best of both worlds. I don't think it's stayed on the same rom for more than a few weeks!. I've had it for almost two years now.
I don't know why Motorola haven't bought out a defy 2. Bigger screen, better camera etc. instead there's defy +, defy mini, defy XT, all of which are pretty much the same and not worth upgrading from defy.
I'm contemplating buying a galaxy nexus as an indoor phone and keeping my defy as my outdoor media and GPS. However the acro s looked like it would let me have just the one phone.
I'll wait I think for a month or so until there's good reviews of acro s out. Acro s is priced just above galaxy s3 here in new Zealand but only just released so will prob drop in price quick.
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Do you know what carrier it will be for? I live in America and i can only get Tmobile phones. I need a tough phone like the defy, everyday, but i want something more powerful like the acro s. The only other phone thats powerful from tmobile here is the galaxy s3 which my girlfriend has but she has to charge it 3 times a day and i think i would break it in a month on accident. Thanks.
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get the Xperia Acro S if :
1> the entirety of the design greatly appeals to you (it did on me)
2> you find the built - water-resistant and shock resistant - has some good use according to your lifestyle
3> the price range is acceptable
4>you're a big fan of Xperia (a "stick to it no matter what" kind of fan)
5>OS development and modding is not that important
but, consider looking somewhere else if :
1>OS upgrade, flashing, openness and OS development is important to you(you're better off getting Samsung or HTC)
2>you value the online community support structure (you're better off getting Samsung or HTC)
3>you want those OS development delivered on a timely manner (you're better off getting Samsung or HTC) either official or the XDA way.
there you go, i hope these somehow help you make the right choice.
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i think devs on XPERIA device is not bad..
FXP team did a good job, and ORGANIZED, yes organized to did their job.
they port CM to all 2011 Xperia device (yes, CM10 included).
my friend using Xperia Live and Xperia Neo, got a nice real smoooooth CM.
and developing atmoshpere there on both device is hot, not dead..
as long as kernel is unlocked, there's always a possibilities for devs to develop it.
and xperia has many devs too.
and did you know, SONY is a nice vendor for the devs.
SONY put a official page on their website, a nice how to step-by-step UNLOCK BOOTLOADER OFFICIALY..
i kept my eye on xperia acro s for two months now, and my next phone will definitely be this one. and i think the development of xperia devices is not bad, especially when they get cyanogenmod. and im quite sure this device will be officially supported by the cm team.
and i agree with marhensa, if the bootloader is unlocked, development is much easier, and sony makes their bootloaders unlockable.
And about official updates, Sony comes right next to nexus phones in official updates .. they updated almost all of the 2011 Xperia lineup to ics . Better late then never
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I would buy it but sony only release the xperia go in germany, but thats holy crab, nothing better then my defy.
So i keep my defy ad buy him in autumn a big brother, the nexus seven. So outdoor smartphone and daily using nexus 7
I'm waiting for this piece of hardware as well. Its for the exact reasons I bought my defy for and why I will hopefully never have to but a non ip67 phone again.
Sean
lets not forget that:
- the defy is not ip67 officially
- the acro s is ip57, not ip67
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i think devs on XPERIA device is not bad..
FXP team did a good job, and ORGANIZED, yes organized to did their job.
they port CM to all 2011 Xperia device (yes, CM10 included).
my friend using Xperia Live and Xperia Neo, got a nice real smoooooth CM.
and developing atmoshpere there on both device is hot, not dead..
as long as kernel is unlocked, there's always a possibilities for devs to develop it.
and xperia has many devs too.
and did you know, SONY is a nice vendor for the devs.
SONY put a official page on their website, a nice how to step-by-step UNLOCK BOOTLOADER OFFICIALY..
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oh don't get me wrong there, bud. nothing about devs in general and here at XDA in particular.
my point being was - Sony's tough stance on keeping their phones superlocked - with bootloaders locked(and encrypted) in a way that makes it difficult for devs high and low to come up with diverse ROMs and mods, keeps the flashaholic community to a minimum level.
and yeah CM did very excellent (sorry for the double supras) job of porting ICS and even JB(in the works to most 2011 line). unlimited props to the team. and that was CM - not SE.compare it to both Samsung and HTC communities where in just a matter of weeks they'd have the ports ready and working, it took about what, a year for SE to brush in to the ICS bandwagon?..
also, look at the price range for an SE dual core device, almost up there with the far-quads.
talk about design, props to SE - i mean they make the loveliest phones out there. (exactly why i bought my ACRO HD).
i'm no big fan of SE - or any OEM for that matter - what matters to me is the experience i get out of a phone - or a device - or a product. And this is where SE loses big time to most big players year after year.
if my Acro HD has got better innard - like a quad maybe, this is going to be my phone for the next two years or so. no i'm highly tempted to get an S3.
again, please..don't tramp me just yet...i'm no hater.
and thanks for the reply. i appreciate being corrected constructively.
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oh don't get me wrong there, bud. nothing about devs in general and here at XDA in particular.
my point being was - Sony's tough stance on keeping their phones superlocked - with bootloaders locked(and encrypted) in a way that makes it difficult for devs high and low to come up with diverse ROMs and mods, keeps the flashaholic community to a minimum level.
and yeah CM did very excellent (sorry for the double supras) job of porting ICS and even JB(in the works to most 2011 line). unlimited props to the team. and that was CM - not SE.compare it to both Samsung and HTC communities where in just a matter of weeks they'd have the ports ready and working, it took about what, a year for SE to brush in to the ICS bandwagon?..
also, look at the price range for an SE dual core device, almost up there with the far-quads.
talk about design, props to SE - i mean they make the loveliest phones out there. (exactly why i bought my ACRO HD).
i'm no big fan of SE - or any OEM for that matter - what matters to me is the experience i get out of a phone - or a device - or a product. And this is where SE loses big time to most big players year after year.
if my Acro HD has got better innard - like a quad maybe, this is going to be my phone for the next two years or so. no i'm highly tempted to get an S3.
again, please..don't tramp me just yet...i'm no hater.
and thanks for the reply. i appreciate being corrected constructively.
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umm, i never had an android powered sony, but ive tried many, and from my experience, their software is greatly optimised, their single core devices are almost as smooth as a dual core device. thats why i think its worth buying a dual core sony instead of any quad core for the same price. and the sony stock software is very good, good features, quick, smooth. and they unlock most of their devices afaik. so my next phone will definitely be a sony. i dont like samsung, not just the software, the hardware either. htc is too pricy, especially that i dont wanna use sense ui, and thats extra money. i will never again buy a motorola for what they did to us defy users, and lg i simply dont trust. that leaves sony, which i always liked.
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umm, i never had an android powered sony, but ive tried many, and from my experience, their software is greatly optimised, their single core devices are almost as smooth as a dual core device. thats why i think its worth buying a dual core sony instead of any quad core for the same price. and the sony stock software is very good, good features, quick, smooth. and they unlock most of their devices afaik. so my next phone will definitely be a sony. i dont like samsung, not just the software, the hardware either. htc is too pricy, especially that i dont wanna use sense ui, and thats extra money. i will never again buy a motorola for what they did to us defy users, and lg i simply dont trust. that leaves sony, which i always liked.
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my little brother has got a defy too.. he loved it to the point of learning android programming so he could max his device the way he want's it. i've had 6 other phones while he held on to it. and i know first hand how moto left everyone in the dark with their i-dont-care attitude.
if you're saying though that SE makes very good OS/software for their phones, then i'm not really sure why we're here on XDA.
back to SE - goodluck with your next device. i hope they make better phones in their next release.
i'm about to sell my AcroHD and get me one of those jelly-able device.
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my little brother has got a defy too.. he loved it to the point of learning android programming so he could max his device the way he want's it. i've had 6 other phones while he held on to it. and i know first hand how moto left everyone in the dark with their i-dont-care attitude.
if you're saying though that SE makes very good OS/software for their phones, then i'm not really sure why we're here on XDA.
back to SE - goodluck with your next device. i hope they make better phones in their next release.
i'm about to sell my AcroHD and get me one of those jelly-able device.
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you misunderstood me, im not saying i want to stick to the stock sony sw, i just said that if i had to choose id choose sonys, but of course if theres a possibility to change to cm, i will be the first to go. and the acro s has nfc, hdmi, good hw, hd 4.3" display (anything above 4.3" is too big for me), and comes with ics, so it will definitely be updated to jb. so this is the perfect phone for me. the s3 with its 4.7" is waaay to big, and i dont like the look of it.
but guys..
sony is kindly gave OFFICIAL step bu step to unlock bootloader.
and after that, you know what..
the 2011 devices line up got CM by FXP..
it took so long to get CM is because bootloader isn't unlock at that time.
but after that, sony gives a new policy which is so good for any devs.
the warranty will get void of course, but that's a win win solution for devs + it's follower and company (sony)..
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I'm sure that Acro S is the best replacement for all Defy Owners , I think Quad-Core phones will eat up batteries.
For Samsung : I don't like their Plasticy devices that feels like a toy and Cheap construction and very easy to break ,but they have a big Dev community
For HTC and SONY they have a great build quality and nice dev followers but its a little bit over-priced
Acro S is the Up-coming phone unless HTC has released any IP57 or IP67 certified phones and i think all phones in the world should be IP57 cert
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lets not forget that:
- the defy is not ip67 officially
- the acro s is ip57, not ip67
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That one also baffles me ... What could possibly be the cause of the dust ingression protection level to decrease for acro S ...
Sony manages to maintain IP67 for Go ...
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That one also baffles me ... What could possibly be the cause of the dust ingression protection level to decrease for acro S ...
Sony manages to maintain IP67 for Go ...
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the acro s is bigger, and just how it is with the defy, the acro s plugs are protected by tiny plastic doors. although i dont relly get how its protected from water and not from dust
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the acro s is bigger, and just how it is with the defy, the acro s plugs are protected by tiny plastic doors. although i dont relly get how its protected from water and not from dust
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Just wanted to point out that DEFY+ is IP67 certified. So, yeah, the DEFY maybe doesn't have the official badge, but it was just another marketing trick to make people believe they actually improved the phone in multiple ways (CPU, chipset, graphics, IP67 certificate...things are different on DEFY and DEFY+ according to Motorola), while they are actually the same.
To make sure I was on topic - I find the Xperia line-up very ugly. If a real DEFY 2 doesn't show, my next phone will be an ATRIX 2
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Just wanted to point out that DEFY+ is IP67 certified. So, yeah, the DEFY maybe doesn't have the official badge, but it was just another marketing trick to make people believe they actually improved the phone in multiple ways (CPU, chipset, graphics, IP67 certificate...things are different on DEFY and DEFY+ according to Motorola), while they are actually the same.
To make sure I was on topic - I find the Xperia line-up very ugly. If a real DEFY 2 doesn't show, my next phone will be an ATRIX 2
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i actually find the xperia line-up nice and elegant, and i swore never to buy motorola again...
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its about time i upgraded from my HTC Desire, and I thought I had decided on the Xperia T, but then there is all the stuff with LTE etc..
the main reasons for upgrading are wanting a decent camera to take snaps and videos. and it to be a bit more powerful.
so I have found an Xperia Ion on eBay here in the UK for 40 or so £ less than the T, its the LT28i version so has the LTE, but only comes with Gingerbread.
my question is (are)
can i stick ICS on it without any problems - there is a post on the Xperria blog that seems to say it goes on there fin (xperiablog.net/2012/09/14/xperia-ion-lte-lt28i-android-4-0-4-ics-update-starts-rolling-out/[/url]) (why does it even come with Gingerbread which is very out of date indeed)
it will work in the UK presumably ?
is it that much worse than the Xperia T
as I am coming from an old Desire - which I love to bits, so any upgrade will be an improvement.
not sure if I should post the ebay link on here so I wont but suffice to say I searched for 'xperia ion lt28i' on ebay uk and it was the second one down
any help, thoughts much appreciated
thanks
nat
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hi there
its about time i upgraded from my HTC Desire, and I thought I had decided on the Xperia T, but then there is all the stuff with LTE etc..
the main reasons for upgrading are wanting a decent camera to take snaps and videos. and it to be a bit more powerful.
so I have found an Xperia Ion on eBay here in the UK for 40 or so £ less than the T, its the LT28i version so has the LTE, but only comes with Gingerbread.
my question is (are)
can i stick ICS on it without any problems - there is a post on the Xperria blog that seems to say it goes on there fin (xperiablog.net/2012/09/14/xperia-ion-lte-lt28i-android-4-0-4-ics-update-starts-rolling-out/[/url]) (why does it even come with Gingerbread which is very out of date indeed)
it will work in the UK presumably ?
is it that much worse than the Xperia T
as I am coming from an old Desire - which I love to bits, so any upgrade will be an improvement.
not sure if I should post the ebay link on here so I wont but suffice to say I searched for 'xperia ion lt28i' on ebay uk and it was the second one down
any help, thoughts much appreciated
thanks
nat
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Hi there, I have an Ion too and live in the UK. If you go on PC companion then it will detect that it has an update and that is the Ice Cream Sandwhich! I bought my Ion in Indonesia but atm it's broken and I can't turn it on (((( been like this for a week but before it happened, I updated it to ice cream sandwhich and it was glorious
and just in my opinion, if you're stressing to find a good browser, the ics stock browser has literally everthing you need that the other browsers have and it's also light so yeah
ENJOY YOUR ION!!!!
p.s Oh and the Ion is a great overall phone, the display, camera, interface, multimedia, and hardware features such as nfc etc is just amazing, althought the battery life could have been better, I think it differs in each device, some had lasted theirs for 10+ hours of heavy usage while mine lasted 8 hours with heavy usage I wouldn't get the T because the on-screen buttons will take a couple of inches from the 4.55" screen
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is it that much worse than the Xperia T
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1904531
hi
thanks for the replies
looks like this might be the one for me..
presumably its not a nightmare to root, and there are some roms knocking about?
does it take a standard or micro SIM ?
..as in do I need to order a fresh one from O2
thanks again
been really helpful
nat
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hi
thanks for the replies
looks like this might be the one for me..
presumably its not a nightmare to root, and there are some roms knocking about?
does it take a standard or micro SIM ?
..as in do I need to order a fresh one from O2
thanks again
been really helpful
nat
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Very easy to root. No other roms available and it takes a micro sim.
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Very easy to root. No other roms available and it takes a micro sim.
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hi spectre,
thanks, are there likely to be? or is the sony ICS pretty nice, I did like to flash ROMs on my desire - which clearly had a shed load of ROM options.
I know that the Ion is fairly new, but I imagine the number of devs working with Sony phones is fewer? maybe just you
I am so torn at the moment for getting a new phone it ridiculous
the Ion I can get here for £329 and the T for £419
neither is particularly cheap
as I may have mentioned I want a decent camera, but the LTE of the Ion is swaying me slightly, but knowing my luck when it does come to the UK we no doubt will have adopted a completely different version ..
and its not the slimmest of phones either..
still thinking about the HTC one x - but no additional storage may kill that one. I have an SD card in my desire that is brimming with MP3's
nat
Well cyanogen nightlies just started being released so there's hope. Sony's ICS is really nice. Well built and runs great on any of their 2012 phones.
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Well cyanogen nightlies just started being released so there's hope. Sony's ICS is really nice. Well built and runs great on any of their 2012 phones.
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thanks for the reply
given the choice, which would you pick?
think LTE may actually be a pointless specification for the UK for what might be 3 years..
seems like the difference is about 80£ and NFC - which I am not sure I would use anyway. and the T is slightly slimmer and lighter
also hear the Ion battery is a bit rubbish - maybe that is just the LTE clobbering it.
If I didn't have one and was trying yo pick I would probably go for the T seeing as it has the S4 processor and is the new flagship. I do love my ion though and think its a great phone. You can't really go wrong with either phone but if you are gonna want a choice in a bunch of different roms then the T will be a better choice. I think it will have more dev support.
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Hey everyone... Just wanted to thank you all for your knowledge, contributions, etc, on this phone/forum. I've decided to be rid of my Ion. You can still catch me in the LG L9 forums, and in the Nexus 7 forums. Hope to see some of you there. It's been fun!
Y u r selling ur ion??? Sony will release jb in 1 or 2 weeks...any way n'joy ur new phone...thanx for making petition thread...if att bootloader could be unlocked there would be a different community support to ion
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Cheers mate!
Good luck Mate. I agree. May be you can wait 1-2 weeks more just to see how the JB update goes.
@tribalartgod
Since you have opened the thread, can you rename it like this-
"FAREWELL- Leaving XS/ACRO S/iON - Say bye here".
Then all the other users those who are planning to leave any of the device too, can post their message here.
It would be great if you can do.
It's not that I don't like this device, in fact, I love it. I switched back to T-Mobile. Truely unlimited data, superb customer service, etc etc. I'll be back to an Xperia device in the near future. Just had to do what I had to do at this current moment. You all enjoy!
got the nokia n9 two weeks ago, and i believe i made the right choice: super reliable, super innovative and convenient user experience, many interesting apps developed by nokia, awesome integration between apps, much better multitasking experience than any phone currently available, faster than any dual core (maybe quad core as well) android, and even easier to develop than most android devices. the amount of apps is definitely the weakness of n9 but it basically gets the job done quite well. back to xperia ion, it is definitely the most annoying phone i have ever owned in my life. if sony mobile is not going to improve its shi*ty software builds, then goodbye forever. will come back and take a look after jelly bean is available for the ion though. one more thing, in my opinion, if google isn't changing the whole coding language of android, it won't change its lagdroid nature. Java really shouldn't be used to develop operating systems. project butter brought triple buffering which, yes it makes android much smoother but, drains much more battery while being already battery hungry.
OP enjoy your new/other Device...
Hello there,
I am a Sony Xperia S user for 11 months now and so far I have been largely satisfied with my device. I have always run on the Stock ROM, I have not unlocked my bootloader yet and I do not intend to do so.
However, in the light of recent events I find myself thinking of a switch to another phone with better characteristics and more recent hardware. The best deal seems to be Sony Xperia T - newer chip, better support from Sony; perhaps it would receive further JB updates (4.2, 4.3) as well. Still, its recent price is just above 300 euros - unlocked and without contract - in my country. In comparison, I still have to pay about 200 euros for my Xperia S to the end of my 2-year lease contract with my local mobile service provider. That's why I am considering paying off the remaining sum of the lease in advance and then selling my Xperia S for about the same amount of money.
There are several reasons why I am considering such a switch. For one, Sony does not seem too eager to support Xperia S any longer. Yes, the 4.1.2 JB update is on the way but it has been for several months now. The numerous delays, and I am not too interested in the respective reasons, have finally put me off this otherwise pretty good all-rounder phone. Second, we have to take into account that the Snapdragon S3 chip is already heavily outdated and it would most likely not receive any further software development. When considering the alternatives, Xperia T seems to be the best one, because of its price, hardware and software. I am very fond of Sony's interface, indeed.
So I wonder what is your opinion on the matter? Is Xperia T worth it to replace my Xperia S for the next couple of years?
This thread could provide a general discussion of Xperia S's future, too.
I think its time to move on. Im never going back to Sony unless they improve. Im keeping my phone for few months more. I just bought my Sony phone and Im pretty disappointed. HTC and Samsung have better phones than Sony why settle for Xperia T or V, if you can have better.
My friend got Xperia T, and i don't like that phone.
Move on something newer, keep in mind (snapdragon 600) will receive every update before S4 and S4pro
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Agree with electrash anyways sony is getting poorer and poorer when it comes to system updates
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It is made very clear by the moderators that threads condemning Sony is not allowed. This thread is going to get locked soon. However, I noticed it is always those few monkeys tryin to be funny, not able to listen to simple English. Sony might not be good in updating Xperia S, but they didn't break any promises and my current ICS build is flawless.
Sony might not reach Samsung's level yet but it has suppressed HTC greatly already. Those who don't know, HTC abandons HTC Sensation, the phone with the exact same CPU as Xperia S.
So has sony, it had forgotten about xperia u when jellybean was announced
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So has sony, it had forgotten about xperia u when jellybean was announced
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I own an Xperia U and it lags badly on ICS. They didnt abandon Xperia U. It is just not fit for JB. Anyways, Sony sales numbers have been steadily increasing YOY and already destroyed Motorola's and HTC's. Sony will continue to rise as 99% of customers dont give a damn about updates, fortunately.
Xperia go seems to have less hardware capabilities than xperia u, no??
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Rangeeshnathan said:
Xperia go seems to have less hardware capabilities than xperia u, no??
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LOL. Please don't play with me. Xperia Go have the exact same specification as Xperia U. Xperia Go have a lower screen resolution resulting better performance. Then you will ask Xperia J. Sigh, kids these days.
Excuse me then I'm sorry Mr lee
And lol I was not coming to xperia j
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R: Finding myself on a crossroad - maybe it is time to move on
Pretty much of your same opinion... I'm totally satisfied until now for what I've done with my Xperia S, but I really cannot stand anymore the politics of software update that Sony is pursuing.
And ok, my phone is fully unlocked and I tried a lot of custom roms to get closer to what is a pure android system, but to me those all are still full of bugs.
And to be honest, stock remains the best deal.
I'd like to switch to a pure Google Phone like the Nexus 4 but his great fragility, the weakness of the camera and the max 16gb of storage are three points that still makes me doubtful.
I'm considering the upcoming Galaxy S4 Nexus Edition...
When the official Sony JB update comes, everything changes. We can run custom ROMs without a flaw with the help of 3rd party developers. There has been rumors that Android 4.3 is still going to be JB. Even if we cant upgrade our phones to Android 5. The problem is our ROMs are'nt stable enough.
lewis021 said:
When the official Sony JB update comes, everything changes. We can run custom ROMs without a flaw with the help of 3rd party developers. There has been rumors that Android 4.3 is still going to be JB. Even if we cant upgrade our phones to Android 5. The problem is our ROMs are'nt stable enough.
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Personally, the current ICS build is stable. Other than some Wifi drops, I dont see any major flaws in it.
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Personally, the current ICS build is stable. Other than some Wifi drops, I dont see any major flaws in it.
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The big problem about ICS is its very laggy, drains alot of battery and not smooth.
cabi.costa said:
Pretty much of your same opinion... I'm totally satisfied until now for what I've done with my Xperia S, but I really cannot stand anymore the politics of software update that Sony is pursuing.
And ok, my phone is fully unlocked and I tried a lot of custom roms to get closer to what is a pure android system, but to me those all are still full of bugs.
And to be honest, stock remains the best deal.
I'd like to switch to a pure Google Phone like the Nexus 4 but his great fragility, the weakness of the camera and the max 16gb of storage are three points that still makes me doubtful.
I'm considering the upcoming Galaxy S4 Nexus Edition...
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Yep, the Galaxy S phones are always a viable alternative, but I am not a big fan of Samsung. Too much plastic, and the user interface is somewhat dull and boring. Yes, the horsepower behind the back panel is immense but I am not a power user, not really. In fact, it turns out that Sony are the brand with the highest number of upper-mid-level devices at the moment (Xperia S, T; SP and ZR upcoming; not to mention all the derivatives like SL, TX, Ion, V, Acro S, etc., etc.) and I am rather leaning towards buying one such device. I am not too interested in the current flagship devices (Xperia Z, HTC One, Galaxy S4) since cheaper phones provide similar daily performance for some 2/3 of the price. Snapdragon S4 is one really capable platform and its wide availability makes it accessible to anyone.
To sum up, I am rather looking for a phone with a good manufacturer's support and expected updates till Android version 4.3, at least. The 16GB non-expandable storage of Nexus 4 is a deal-breaker for me as well. Maybe I will wait another couple of months, until SP and ZR get released and their prices decline to their true market values.
And guys, please stay on topic here. We are discussing Xperia S and its alternatives here, not Sony's customer policy in general. I know, there are many of you who are angry at the Japanese, I am somewhat dissatisfied myself. Anyway, please stop the rant because I believe this is a sensible topic and I do not want to see this thread closed. Thanks!
edit: nvm
I had similar thoughts too, until i realized that the hardware in my Xperia S is just fine for my needs for now. What is it you want to do with a newer chipset? And on the software side, I have my hopes on that things will improve somewhat once/if Sony releases the new kernel-sources.
This question has been as so many times, only you can decide what is best for you.
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Been a long time apple user ..since the original iphone in 2007. had every version of it. Got bored of ios and switched to Galaxy s3 last year and been quite happy so far. Last week i traded the S3 for Sony Xperia ZL..and man..i love this hardware and the version of android..
The sony launcher is by far the best one i've seen compared to the touchwiz and others..I used to have so many launchers and widgets on my S3 whereas i have no launchers and widgets on ZL.. The built in has all the features i need,,
Got the iphone 5S for the wife..but the display on ZL is quite something..camera is great. Battery life is reasonable (compared to my old S3) and the standard android customization is very handy..
Don't think i'll ever go back to ios or other android devices for a while.
I like the Xperia ZL. But this phone has many problems. First it lost the signal. It has some lag. And now overheat. Tomorrow who know? I can affirm that I would like other phone.
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melquisedec said:
I like the Xperia ZL. But this phone has many problems. First it lost the signal. It has some lag. And now overheat. Tomorrow who know? I can affirm that I would like other phone.
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well not all ZL have problems. mine works perfect, for me its the best phone made by SONY, small big screen, nice hardware, cool camera etc.
just w8ting for the 4.3.
i had HTC One, iphone 5, S3, and the ZL its like perfect.
BTW I dont like custom roms so im full stuck on 4.2.2 ,67 , as far as i know most of the people that face does issues are using roms...and i keep sayin Custom roms SUCK, just stick with official and dont screw your phone.:good:
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well not all ZL have problems. mine works perfect, for me its the best phone made by SONY, small big screen, nice hardware, cool camera etc.
just w8ting for the 4.3.
i had HTC One, iphone 5, S3, and the ZL its like perfect.
BTW I dont like custom roms so im full stuck on 4.2.2 ,67 , as far as i know most of the people that face does issues are using roms...and i keep sayin Custom roms SUCK, just stick with official and dont screw your phone.:good:
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I'm on a custom ROM and I'm having exactly 0 issues from the phone itself. Some people just have bad luck.
I am waiting the update 4.3. Preying God mine fixed.
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TheTofu said:
I'm on a custom ROM and I'm having exactly 0 issues from the phone itself. Some people just have bad luck.
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well good to hear that, but almost all problems that people have they all uses custom roms.
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well not all ZL have problems. mine works perfect, for me its the best phone made by SONY, small big screen, nice hardware, cool camera etc.
just w8ting for the 4.3.
i had HTC One, iphone 5, S3, and the ZL its like perfect.
BTW I dont like custom roms so im full stuck on 4.2.2 ,67 , as far as i know most of the people that face does issues are using roms...and i keep sayin Custom roms SUCK, just stick with official and dont screw your phone.:good:
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Well I'm using a custom ROM and I do not face any issues as well so you are wrong when you say that!
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Well I'm using a custom ROM and I do not face any issues as well so you are wrong when you say that!
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well what I say is what I read on the web.
danieldp1990 said:
well not all ZL have problems. mine works perfect, for me its the best phone made by SONY, small big screen, nice hardware, cool camera etc.
just w8ting for the 4.3.
i had HTC One, iphone 5, S3, and the ZL its like perfect.
BTW I dont like custom roms so im full stuck on 4.2.2 ,67 , as far as i know most of the people that face does issues are using roms...and i keep sayin Custom roms SUCK, just stick with official and dont screw your phone.:good:
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i agree - i love the stock rom as well. I'm with bell in canada. My android version says 4.2.2 build number is 10.3.A.0.423
No updates according to update centre..is the latest .67 udpate not available to bell customers?
Generalities tend to be tough to back up.
As to your question about an upgrade - you should be able to install the "stock" generic 67 rom for your phone via flashtool, and have it work properly on Bell as what's important are the radio frequencies the phone supports. (and you "should" be able to flash it without wiping your data...
On latest Stock rom and 0 problems with this wonderful device. It's high end and a pleasure to use it.
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Generalities tend to be tough to back up.
As to your question about an upgrade - you should be able to install the "stock" generic 67 rom for your phone via flashtool, and have it work properly on Bell as what's important are the radio frequencies the phone supports. (and you "should" be able to flash it without wiping your data...
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How do i flash? I haven't done this before..Why isn't the latest build not available via OTA?
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How do i flash? I haven't done this before..Why isn't the latest build not available via OTA?
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I have no idea why it wouldn't be available via OTA.
As far as how to flash... search under the development forum for the ZL for Flashtool. There's also a thread that shows all of the different "rom" versions... I'd look there as well...
I am also super lucky with my ZL. Latest stock firmware and it is my first Android phone, where I don't feel the need for having root access...
I am debating whether i should return my SP and get a ZL. Normally I don't like five inch phones but the ZL is so compact that it wouldn't bother me. I am having a hell of a time deciding. Good thing I have till the end of January. What do you guys think?
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I am debating whether i should return my SP and get a ZL. Normally I don't like five inch phones but the ZL is so compact that it wouldn't bother me. I am having a hell of a time deciding. Good thing I have till the end of January. What do you guys think?
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Do it. The SP is a nice phone, but the ZL is leagues better in every way. You wont believe how small it really is until you hold it.
Even though my beloved C6503 is away receiving RMA Support.
Leading me to purchase a C5303 as back-up in the meantime.
I can still thoroughly recommend the ZL over the SP.
If you watch a lot of videos, browse the internet heavily, likewise use messaging heavily, then you'll love the extra real estate, and increased sharpness, that comes with the 5", Full HD, ultra compact ZL.
Not to mention the ZL's noticeable increase in both performance, and internal storage.
The advantage of 5" 1080p over 4.6" 720p may read like hype.
But as you'll find out for yourself, once you've tried it you won't go back.
Especially in such compact form, with higher grade, build quality you'd expect in Sony's early 2013 top tier, that is found in the ZL.
Plus you still get a large, but more stylised notification light.
The only cons I find with the ZL is it does generate a lot of heat when worked hard.
More than the SP.
But then that's understandable considering what's under their respective hoods (Z runs hotter still being front/rear glass?!)
So I wouldn't recommend using a case with it.
The other con is the ZL is not as efficient as SP.
This is reflected in their respective Endurance Test ratings at GSM Arena, and sums up nicely my experience with them both.
Finally, I would only recommend buying a used ZL with at least a six month warranty, or preferably brand new with a twelve month warranty.
As I am not alone in my ZL suffering from SOD/Sleep Of Death late last year.
Other than that I eagerly await the return of my C6503 from RMA Support later this month.
To which I'll be gifting my C5303 to my Mum (Love you Mum!)
Look forward to your impression of ZL over the SP should you make the leap.
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themanspirit said:
Even though my beloved C6503 is away receiving RMA Support.
Leading me to purchase a C5303 as back-up in the meantime.
I can still thoroughly recommend the ZL over the SP.
If you watch a lot of videos, browse the internet heavily, likewise use messaging heavily, then you'll love the extra real estate, and increased sharpness, that comes with the 5", Full HD, ultra compact ZL.
Not to mention the ZL's noticeable increase in both performance, and internal storage.
The advantage of 5" 1080p over 4.6" 720p may read like hype.
But as you'll find out for yourself, once you've tried it you won't go back.
Especially in such compact form, with higher grade, build quality you'd expect in Sony's early 2013 top tier, that is found in the ZL.
Plus you still get a large, but more stylised notification light.
The only cons I find with the ZL is it does generate a lot of heat when worked hard.
More than the SP.
But then that's understandable considering what's under their respective hoods (Z runs hotter still being front/rear glass?!)
So I wouldn't recommend using a case with it.
The other con is the ZL is not as efficient as SP.
This is reflected in their respective Endurance Test ratings at GSM Arena, and sums up nicely my experience with them both.
Finally, I would only recommend buying a used ZL with at least a six month warranty, or preferably brand new with a twelve month warranty.
As I am not alone in my ZL suffering from SOD/Sleep Of Death late last year.
Other than that I eagerly await the return of my C6503 from RMA Support later this month.
To which I'll be gifting my C5303 to my Mum (Love you Mum!)
Look forward to your impression of ZL over the SP should you make the leap.
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I've had the ZL for about a week now and I am pretty impressed with it. The size of the phone considering the screen size is amazing. It is a solid feeling phone and the red one I bought looks great. The battery life isn't too great compared to SP but that is to be expected. I downclocked it a bit so it does better and doesnt get as hot. The screen is miles better than the SP and the extra internal memory is nice. I did like the fact that the SP didn't have the stupid shatterproof sheet on it and it was advertised as gorilla glass. I also wish the IR blaster was on the top so I could hold it like a remote. I would have taken having the charging pins instead of the IR blaster. Still it is a good phone and probably the best designed five inch phone ever. I would have waited and gotten the Z1 compact but it's just too small for me now. 4.6 is perfect but 5 inch is great if the size is that of the ZL.
The vibration on the ZL is really weird compared to the SP. Its very strong, not sure if that is bad or good. The camera is soooo much better though.
Glad to read you are enjoying ZL.
Having sent mine in for RMA Support last month.
And since, been using first C6603, followed by now C5303.
Its highlighted to me just how superior the ZL is to these two more popular and widely available models.
IMHO Sony made a major mistake not to release the ZL in the same markets globally as Z.
As for the ZL's very strong vibration.
Yes, it is far stronger than both Z and SP.
That's been my experience too.
I don't doubt you are also enjoying the ZL's far superior outdoor visibility too.
As the Z, and the SP, displays are really mediocre by comparison when used outdoors in daylight.
I sure do miss ZL's superior loudspeaker performance too.
Particularly when using Navigation incar, or hearing it ring when you are in noisy environments.
So looking forward to the return of my ZL.
And seeing if Sony will release a true successor to the compact, limited market release, ZL.
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