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[Q] Need advise about my next phone. Thanks for answering.

i´m thinking about retiring my Hero. But i can´t make a decision about Optimus 2x, optimus 3d o SE Xperia Arc.
I realise Arc isn´t that fast, but it´s got an amazing design, camera and ithink that the screen should be great. On the other hand, i don´t know if it´s going to be supported for that long two years of contract with the operator.
The other altenative are the LGs, far more powerfull, support (official or unoffical) it´s quite guaranted and they seem more durable for that 2 years.
So, what do you think? Is the Arc enough to handle android update for 2 years? Or should i buy one of the Lgs (which i don´t really like at all) to be sure about it support android updates?
Thanks for answering and excuse me for my english, i´m trying to improve it!

SE has been keeping up nicely with their support for the play and the arc. The new releases and update to the android os is actually really fast compared to all the companies except for the googles nexus phones.
Sony already announced 2.3.4 for September. I believe their attitude towards people who already bought a phone from them has changed recently. They realized that they need us to buy another from them in two years in order to keep their market shares up..
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Well, i own two out of the three you are choosing from and eventhough the lg has more opportunities to tweak at the moment, custom rom wise, and has dual core, I still prefer using my arc.
Its fast and stable enough for me, and the looks are just stunning. Of course playing games like riptide gp on the lg is amazing but I am not a big gamer.
from my Arc or Optimus 2x

I know the arc´s appearence is just amazing, wonderfull display and so. BUT i´m not sure about the custom roms realease, i mean, i actually got a Hero, and still developing roms for it. If i knew that in 24 month time from now they´d still keep on developing for the Arc, it´d be my new phone.
So i consider the Lg option bacause of that, i asume that the 2x as well as the 3d will have custom roms in 24 moths time quite sure, but no so with the Arc

Sony are far more likely IMO to provide long-term support for the Arc than LG are for their Optimus handsets.
LG pledged to provide a minimum of one major Android update to each of their handsets but since the 2X and 3D ship with 2.2, all LG has to do is update them to Gingerbread and they could drop all support then without breaking their word.
Obviously custom ROMs are a completely different matter and it's impossible to predict how things will play out for either handset.
As you say yourself, you're assuming that the LGs will still have support in a couple of years time.
But that's all it is, an assumption.

Well, i´ve almost made my mind about this about a 75%. I´ll choose the Optimus 3D because of this:
1- Xperia Arc´s got an awesome design and camera. But it´s got last-year hardware and and don´t think it´ll last me that long 24 moths.
2- Optimus 2X i also awesome, dual core and so. But, it´s kind of "included on the 3D". I mean, the 3D is like a 2X with bigger screen, tri-dual and 3D capabilities.
3- The 3D is the most powerfull phone, excellent for multimedia and costs me 0€ in vodafone SP.
Any advice is still thanked.

When you say you 'don´t think it´ll last me that long 24 moths', what do you mean exactly?

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When you say you 'don´t think it´ll last me that long 24 moths', what do you mean exactly?
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The contract i´m getting in Vodafone SP last for 24 months, i know, abusive. And that´s beacuse i want a phone that´d be able to run android updates for taht long. I realize it´s difficult to predict it, but i think the 3D has power enough inside for it, but the Arc seems unlikely to run android for that long. Finally, i believe that the 3D will have more custom roms movement and ports, we´ll see.....
I know i´m posting in the Arc forum and i also know that you all have chosed the Arc, i respect it because it´s still one of my options, but i also think it´s on disadvantage with the optimus.
Thank for your interest anyway.

24 month contracts are the norm in the UK, I understand that.
It was the part about the phone 'lasting' that long.
One last thing to consider is the warranty.
LG only give you one year, SE give you two.

Step666 said:
24 month contracts are the norm in the UK, I understand that.
It was the part about the phone 'lasting' that long.
One last thing to consider is the warranty.
LG only give you one year, SE give you two.
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Is spain laws oblidge carrieres to give 2 years warranty as a standart.
For "last" i undersrtand handling android updates. I´m sure it´ll do great with 2.3, hope so on 2.4 icecream sandwich, but not sure about custom roms..... will it be as much as is 2X? Who knows...

[Q] Should I get this phone?

Currently, I have LG G2x and frankly I hate it with passion.
I'm on T-Mobile and I understand I won't get their so called "4G" internet and only Edge which is fine.
I really like the design of phone and integration of facebook and all of the fun stuff. Is it worth the downgrade? I mean, I don't play games, I don't even surf the internet on my G2x. Just facebook and gadu-gadu communicator. it seems dual-core phone is a waste to me...
Or better it would be to wait for Arc S?

Arc S and current Arc is basically the same everything, only difference is the white body and stock speed set to 1.4Ghz vs 1.0Ghz of the current Arc. The current Arc is also cheaper since its older.
Like you I don't play games or do something to stress the phone, so Arc more than satisfies my requirement for now.

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Currently, I have LG G2x and frankly I hate it with passion.
I'm on T-Mobile and I understand I won't get their so called "4G" internet and only Edge which is fine.
I really like the design of phone and integration of facebook and all of the fun stuff. Is it worth the downgrade? I mean, I don't play games, I don't even surf the internet on my G2x. Just facebook and gadu-gadu communicator. it seems dual-core phone is a waste to me...
Or better it would be to wait for Arc S?
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Arc S's exterior material is better. won't be so plastic. I don't know how to describe.
Arc S is a better choice. Hope SE also fix the housing crack problem.

abnoob said:
Arc S's exterior material is better. won't be so plastic. I don't know how to describe.
Arc S is a better choice. Hope SE also fix the housing crack problem.
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Source?
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besthijacker said:
Currently, I have LG G2x and frankly I hate it with passion.
I'm on T-Mobile and I understand I won't get their so called "4G" internet and only Edge which is fine.
I really like the design of phone and integration of facebook and all of the fun stuff. Is it worth the downgrade? I mean, I don't play games, I don't even surf the internet on my G2x. Just facebook and gadu-gadu communicator. it seems dual-core phone is a waste to me...
Or better it would be to wait for Arc S?
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IMO Getting an Arc from G2X is not a Downgrade from my Point of View
LG G2X may be the first Dual-Core mobile, but in reality, it was rushed and causes lots of problems, like overheating, phone rebooting, unresponsive phone after a couple of months used(i read a lot about this, also i have a friend who have Optimus 2X and can confirm this problems too) so the phone is not really that great in every day use, Raw Dual Core power but it is not optimized for Better User Experience
While Xperia Arc S, is a refreshed Arc with more CPU Power in it, the overall its the same, I have to say that SE really did a great job to optimize the Phone for Excellent User Experience
I have Xperia Arc, I managed 250hrs of no boot, after that i got 1 random reboot when I was doing heavy task to my Arc, I play a lot and Browse a lot, all I can say is very Excellent Phone.
about Crack Issues in Sensor in Xperia Arc no one can deny that it is not happening, usually Midnight Blue version gets this cracks while Misty Silver have low users reporting they have this Issue, Mine doesn't have it yet, and hopefully it wont
and warranty does cover the replacement of the front cover, and I read somewhere in SE support forums, that they will have the reinforced front cover replacing those old ones, same Material but Better and Stronger.
maybe, just maybe that Arc S will not have this Crack Issues, SE knows this Issue for a Long time now, and that's why it is covered by warranty, so Arc S might have the Reinforced Material

Well you aren't using the smartphones smart, so sticking with the old arc is fine.

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Sorry for confusing you.
What I meant was exterior 'coating' is better.
means more beautiful (not because of the color)
the source is ...I feel it, touch it, and play it.......

mhyke13ph said:
IMO Getting an Arc from G2X is not a Downgrade from my Point of View
LG G2X may be the first Dual-Core mobile, but in reality, it was rushed and causes lots of problems, like overheating, phone rebooting, unresponsive phone after a couple of months used(i read a lot about this, also i have a friend who have Optimus 2X and can confirm this problems too) so the phone is not really that great in every day use, Raw Dual Core power but it is not optimized for Better User Experience
While Xperia Arc S, is a refreshed Arc with more CPU Power in it, the overall its the same, I have to say that SE really did a great job to optimize the Phone for Excellent User Experience
I have Xperia Arc, I managed 250hrs of no boot, after that i got 1 random reboot when I was doing heavy task to my Arc, I play a lot and Browse a lot, all I can say is very Excellent Phone.
about Crack Issues in Sensor in Xperia Arc no one can deny that it is not happening, usually Midnight Blue version gets this cracks while Misty Silver have low users reporting they have this Issue, Mine doesn't have it yet, and hopefully it wont
and warranty does cover the replacement of the front cover, and I read somewhere in SE support forums, that they will have the reinforced front cover replacing those old ones, same Material but Better and Stronger.
maybe, just maybe that Arc S will not have this Crack Issues, SE knows this Issue for a Long time now, and that's why it is covered by warranty, so Arc S might have the Reinforced Material
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about rebooting, just clean contacts of battery, mine did not rebooted for 2 months.. heavy gaming etc.

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about rebooting, just clean contacts of battery, mine did not rebooted for 2 months.. heavy gaming etc.
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Hmm what do you mean?
Anyway, OP: get the Arc. It's great for just anything.

@besthijacker: The Arc is quite good... but keep in mind that (if it concerns you) there are still no custom ROM available... just one kernel and CM7 version that still does not have camer support. MIUI and other custom ROM aren't available for some time. The Xperia Arc has a lack of developers and you can feel it inside the dev-section of the xperia arc :-(
It's a pitty because the phone is generally speaking rather good and has an excellent design!

The amount of custom roms and kernels is awesome for G2x but I think after looking at videos and pictures, I fell in love in SE UI's...I used to know Xperia Pro Mini for a short and it was pretty slick, in terms of UI...and until LG G2x gets Ice-Cream Sandwich, dual-core is totally useless(IMO)
While, I do not have any issues with my G2x like some people, I feel phone does not meet my expectations in terms of UI which I love about SE in general...
My first phone was SE and have been only getting SE phones for last 6 years
Thanks, I will sell G2x and buy Arc, but what is the "crack issue". Should I get Blue or Silver version in that case?
I will try to sell G2X for good money but probably will have to add some $$$. I see Arc goes for 420$ brand new on phones sites and around 400$ used on ebay. I won't get that much for my LG G2x..go figure

The crack issue is a tiny hairline crack near the light sensor on the front - you have to look real close to see it - seems to be much more common on the midnight blue than the silver.. but having said that - I wouldn't let it stop you from choosing the blue if that's the colour you want - it's not a big deal.. and they may well have solved the problem with newer manufactured handsets.
If you like the SE UI then I reckon you won't be looking for custom ROMs anyway? You should try to get an unbranded one though so that you get firmware updates quicker, and also allows you to unlock the Boot Loader easily so that you can install custom kernel for over clocking and flashing pre-rooted system images..
My system is rooted stock, with a few bit's removed, but I have doomlords kernel and overclocked to 1.55Ghz.

By unbranded you mean, it does not belong to any network and there is no logo of the network right?
I will probably buy it from welectronics or plemix,since its only $400..or ebay if I find around $350 but used...I rather pay extra and get brand new in the box.
I'm running stock rom, rooted with custom kernel on my G2x. At first it was all fun, flashing different custom roms but eventually got bored because I relized...I have no use for any of the features heheh

Same here.. Custom roms don't really appeal to me.. Not seen any that give me more than stock.. And I like the SE ui. By unbranded I mean that it's the basic SE software, with no network software tailoring over the top. Although I think that the devs on here may have cracked the bootloader for branded handsets too now.. I unlocked mine the day that SE released the service.
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I found a website that has Arc S for $440, while Arc is $400. Is it worth that $40 extra? I wonder if Arc S will suffer from same "crack" issue or not? -,-

If you have 40$ more, go for it.
Noone knows if it'll crack, too. Wait 1-2 months and then the first users should report cracks - in case it cracks
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[Q] Will you upgrade to a SONY smartphone next year ?

Just want to know how many Arc owners are looking forward to a SONY smartphone next year and how many have planned to move away

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Just want to know how many Arc owners are looking forward to a SONY smartphone next year and how many have planned to move away
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Well it depends on how good the phone will be!

Yeah...reminds me..this phone could be the last product from Sony Ericsson..
Next time will be SONY.
hope there is flips phones...misses my old SO 905i
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it will be new design, exmor r will stay, definately will go if i have some spare bucks at the time it goes out

I will most certainly have a Sony next time, but only if Sony follows the recent trend.
Had almost all other brands recently. HTC, LG, SAMSUNG even Nexus S and the Arc pleases me the most!
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I think Sony will develop their smartphone integrated with all of their products.
Just wish that they would made it special. and of course with their excellent camera. or maybe like HTC that works with monster beat

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my hope is:
a walkman with great audio quality.
a cybershot with xenon flash.
true psp phone.
-or Xperia arc 2nd gen with dual/quad core,hd display,and still same arc design with front camera.
or my expectations are too high ?

I will probably get another, I wasn't going to stay with them but when you look at what the devs here have achieved, along with S.E's recognition of users wanting the ability to be able to mod their phones, there's already good times ahead.
From My Arc Running CyanogenMod.7.1

All I want is the Xperia Arc with Duo core and front face camera...

I hope SE continues making phones with great designs but with dual core processors.
I think its performance will be much better this coming year.

i want same design as arc, with dual core cpu (non tegra 2!) 1Gb ram, front facing camera, and headphone jack on top of device and a better camera. the camera on the arc really is not that special.....Maybe has something to do with severe compression on SE's software.

I'll nevr evr take SE again
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yes ofcourse ,, why not take Sony again?!

If I could afford a new phone and Sony keeps the same design philosophy, I would buy the Nozomi. They SE phone might not have the best specs, but they do have the best design.
Phones are like cars IMO: you buy them for the logo. If you buy a SE, you make a statement: you think that design is important.

It depends on whether what was Sony-Ericsson now begin to behave like Sony typically do, i.e. lock down everything, treat your customers as if theyre thieves, etc.
Even if they dont i'm still not sure i'd feel entirely comfortable giving money to a corporation that treats its customers with such contempt. I will admit to a certain amount of cognitive dissonance in convincing myself that it was okay to buy a Sony-Ericsson phone because theyre a separate company from sony (even if sony were part owners, it was still independent in terms of management, board etc) but at least SE were unlocking bootloaders and supporting CM at a time when, say, HTC, were starting to lock everything down.
But if SE are now just another part of the sony hierarchy, and are subject to the same paranoid psychotic management decisions that drive much of their product development, then i dont see their phones remaining attractive to me for too long, regardless of how nice their hardware is.

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I was going to keep hold of my x10 until a dual core with decent RAM turned up, but dropped it and shattered the digitizer 4days after my contract ended and a free arc s was too much to say no to...
Perfect device would be:
Arc S design/size but in nicer materials (say carbon shell and aluminium)
Quad core and lots of RAM.. Add in cyanogen and I'll be happy as a pig in ....

My ARC S will probably be the last Android phone I own. I'll be looking at Windows phones for my next one, as I want and need a phone that intergrates fully into a corporate environment.
For instance, not being able to use a WiFi proxy without rooting your phone and installing third-party apps is ridiculous.
I LOVE android, and the ARC S is great, but the OS is so hard to use in a work environment.

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All I want is the Xperia Arc with Duo core and front face camera...
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And 1080p Video?

Depends on how the phone will be.
If they don't add the old build quality + sd card slots in the new devices I might move, even if I'm a big fan of Sony Ericsson, well Sony then.
Will decide when the phones are out
And we have 6 months or more months left to decide
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Worth getting Ion?

I figure this is the best place to ask considering you guys have the Ion already.
I currently have an Xperia S and will be getting an S2 soon aswell( just cause I don't like the look of the S3), but is it worth me getting rid of my SXS and getting this device instead?
I'm dubious whether to or not because I've had my phone right from when it came out and seeing as it was meant to be a flagship handset, it didn't live up to that and had nothing but problems. Mainly problems with tint, laggy and battery life. Are these problems present on the Ion?
How has the phone been for you lot so far? Any real plus points or big negatives?
Any feedback about this device from yous would be great in helping me.
Thanks in advance!
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The ion is a really nice phone. I haven't had any lagging issues and the battery life has been better than I expected. The screen is gorgeous and everything works well. I know the ion isn't that much different from the S, but you'd have LTE, which is a good selling point. This phone flies on AT&T LTE.

It's good that it hasn't had any lagging issues yet, so at least that's an improvement.
The main thing I'm not liking about the Ion though, is that it's only running GB at the moment. That's disgraceful really, especially considering the lower end models from 2011 have got official ICS and unofficial JB. That's my main draw back to be honest.
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I figure this is the best place to ask considering you guys have the Ion already.
I currently have an Xperia S and will be getting an S2 soon aswell( just cause I don't like the look of the S3), but is it worth me getting rid of my SXS and getting this device instead?
I'm dubious whether to or not because I've had my phone right from when it came out and seeing as it was meant to be a flagship handset, it didn't live up to that and had nothing but problems. Mainly problems with tint, laggy and battery life. Are these problems present on the Ion?
How has the phone been for you lot so far? Any real plus points or big negatives?
Any feedback about this device from yous would be great in helping me.
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I have the ion, Xperia S and Xperia P. The ion is a great device. Big beautiful screen, fast and smooth OS and the LTE is screaming fast. Camera is good as are most Sony cameras. No issues with tint like the Xperia S and I haven't experienced any lag on any of these phones (save for the general slowdown of ICS on the Xperia S compared to GB) Battery life isn't the greatest for me, but then again with the ion I find myself using it more because of its screen size. Don't use my ipad to look stuff up as much since I got the ion.
The HDMI out on all these new Xperias is outstanding and with a livedock or the ion dock you can turn the device into a gaming console or mini computer. The 16gb built in plus the ability to add a microSD card is great.
I don't consider it coming with GB a downside because Sony's GB is incredibly smooth and stable. These phones fly with their build of GB. ICS is coming soon (within the next three months maybe as soon as 2-3 weeks) and the devs at Sony are working to get JB out for these phones. (I have a friend that works at Sony and I know this for a fact, they really want to get JB out asap.)
There isn't much development on the ion right now but hopefully that will change soon. The device is still new. If you like Sony phones I think its a can't miss especially because of the LTE.
Out of the devices I have I tend to use the Xperia P and ion the most then Xperia S then Lumia 900. (Yes I do switch between all of them regularly) The P is a better version of the S IMHO and the ion is just a great big screen device.

On a complete contrast to you, I've found my Xperia S to be running a lot smoother on ICS and with only minor lag rarely, whereas I had a lot of lag on GB. I seem to have had that experience the exact opposite to everyone else I've spoken to who has this phone. Regarding battery life, as long as it's better than Xperia S then I really don't mind. I'm a really heavy user so obviously I can't expect it to last a full day with my amount of usage.
The main thing with me is that my minds split pretty much 50/50.
From the reviews I've read, YouTube videos I've watched and even from reading here on XDA, it does sound like a great choice of phone. No matter what, it's gotta be a step up from Xperia S anyway
But, with it taking a maximum of a few months just to get the ICS update, by then the Xperia Mint should be coming out soon after (according to leaks) which will supposedly have ICS on there with JB update available right away. Does that not make the Ion redundant in reality?
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On a complete contrast to you, I've found my Xperia S to be running a lot smoother on ICS and with only minor lag rarely, whereas I had a lot of lag on GB. I seem to have had that experience the exact opposite to everyone else I've spoken to who has this phone. Regarding battery life, as long as it's better than Xperia S then I really don't mind. I'm a really heavy user so obviously I can't expect it to last a full day with my amount of usage.
The main thing with me is that my minds split pretty much 50/50.
From the reviews I've read, YouTube videos I've watched and even from reading here on XDA, it does sound like a great choice of phone. No matter what, it's gotta be a step up from Xperia S anyway
But, with it taking a maximum of a few months just to get the ICS update, by then the Xperia Mint should be coming out soon after (according to leaks) which will supposedly have ICS on there with JB update available right away. Does that not make the Ion redundant in reality?
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Doubt the mint will have JB right away. The mint should be out in the US on AT&T in October/November with ICS.

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Doubt the mint will have JB right away. The mint should be out in the US on AT&T in October/November with ICS.
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I doubt it either but if we're right and it hasn't, then it just shows that Sony isn't doing a lot for their reliability than they were as SE because realistically, by the end of this year/start of next year, quite a few of the high end phones will be running JB. Included in that list should be all the flagship phones, which the mint is supposed to be.
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I doubt it either but if we're right and it hasn't, then it just shows that Sony isn't doing a lot for their reliability than they were as SE because realistically, by the end of this year/start of next year, quite a few of the high end phones will be running JB. Included in that list should be all the flagship phones, which the mint is supposed to be.
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Given the track record of all the manufacturers and carriers I seriously doubt many phones will be running JB by Jan if any other than the Nexus devices especially here in the US. Maybe 2-3 other phones but I just don't see any more than that. Look how long ALL the manufacturers took for ICS. Yeah JB isn't as big an upgrade from ICS as it was for ICS from GB but I still don't see it happening. Sony has been the best so far with at least keeping their customers informed and even releasing betas.

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Given the track record of all the manufacturers and carriers I seriously doubt many phones will be running JB by Jan if any other than the Nexus devices especially here in the US. Maybe 2-3 other phones but I just don't see any more than that. Look how long ALL the manufacturers took for ICS. Yeah JB isn't as big an upgrade from ICS as it was for ICS from GB but I still don't see it happening. Sony has been the best so far with at least keeping their customers informed and even releasing betas.
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You really think Sony are the best as far as updates? Yeah they've kept customers informed as to releases, but only to a minimal extent. At least from what I've noticed. They generally just say "next update due for Q1" for example and won't release it until Q3 or 4.
I understand that they'd rather wait a bit longer and bring out a fully optimized version rather than release a buggy version sooner, but with each phone Sony are bringing out, they're falling further and further behind. In my opinion at least.
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Any other company pushed out ICS to their entire 2011 line? (I know the play didn't get it but is a niche phone) when you compare them to Motorola, htc, Samsung yeh I think Sony does the best with updates.

Finding myself on a crossroad - maybe it is time to move on

Hello there,
I am a Sony Xperia S user for 11 months now and so far I have been largely satisfied with my device. I have always run on the Stock ROM, I have not unlocked my bootloader yet and I do not intend to do so.
However, in the light of recent events I find myself thinking of a switch to another phone with better characteristics and more recent hardware. The best deal seems to be Sony Xperia T - newer chip, better support from Sony; perhaps it would receive further JB updates (4.2, 4.3) as well. Still, its recent price is just above 300 euros - unlocked and without contract - in my country. In comparison, I still have to pay about 200 euros for my Xperia S to the end of my 2-year lease contract with my local mobile service provider. That's why I am considering paying off the remaining sum of the lease in advance and then selling my Xperia S for about the same amount of money.
There are several reasons why I am considering such a switch. For one, Sony does not seem too eager to support Xperia S any longer. Yes, the 4.1.2 JB update is on the way but it has been for several months now. The numerous delays, and I am not too interested in the respective reasons, have finally put me off this otherwise pretty good all-rounder phone. Second, we have to take into account that the Snapdragon S3 chip is already heavily outdated and it would most likely not receive any further software development. When considering the alternatives, Xperia T seems to be the best one, because of its price, hardware and software. I am very fond of Sony's interface, indeed.
So I wonder what is your opinion on the matter? Is Xperia T worth it to replace my Xperia S for the next couple of years?
This thread could provide a general discussion of Xperia S's future, too.

I think its time to move on. Im never going back to Sony unless they improve. Im keeping my phone for few months more. I just bought my Sony phone and Im pretty disappointed. HTC and Samsung have better phones than Sony why settle for Xperia T or V, if you can have better.

My friend got Xperia T, and i don't like that phone.
Move on something newer, keep in mind (snapdragon 600) will receive every update before S4 and S4pro
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Agree with electrash anyways sony is getting poorer and poorer when it comes to system updates
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It is made very clear by the moderators that threads condemning Sony is not allowed. This thread is going to get locked soon. However, I noticed it is always those few monkeys tryin to be funny, not able to listen to simple English. Sony might not be good in updating Xperia S, but they didn't break any promises and my current ICS build is flawless.
Sony might not reach Samsung's level yet but it has suppressed HTC greatly already. Those who don't know, HTC abandons HTC Sensation, the phone with the exact same CPU as Xperia S.

So has sony, it had forgotten about xperia u when jellybean was announced
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Rangeeshnathan said:
So has sony, it had forgotten about xperia u when jellybean was announced
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I own an Xperia U and it lags badly on ICS. They didnt abandon Xperia U. It is just not fit for JB. Anyways, Sony sales numbers have been steadily increasing YOY and already destroyed Motorola's and HTC's. Sony will continue to rise as 99% of customers dont give a damn about updates, fortunately.

Xperia go seems to have less hardware capabilities than xperia u, no??
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Rangeeshnathan said:
Xperia go seems to have less hardware capabilities than xperia u, no??
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LOL. Please don't play with me. Xperia Go have the exact same specification as Xperia U. Xperia Go have a lower screen resolution resulting better performance. Then you will ask Xperia J. Sigh, kids these days.

Excuse me then I'm sorry Mr lee
And lol I was not coming to xperia j
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R: Finding myself on a crossroad - maybe it is time to move on
Pretty much of your same opinion... I'm totally satisfied until now for what I've done with my Xperia S, but I really cannot stand anymore the politics of software update that Sony is pursuing.
And ok, my phone is fully unlocked and I tried a lot of custom roms to get closer to what is a pure android system, but to me those all are still full of bugs.
And to be honest, stock remains the best deal.
I'd like to switch to a pure Google Phone like the Nexus 4 but his great fragility, the weakness of the camera and the max 16gb of storage are three points that still makes me doubtful.
I'm considering the upcoming Galaxy S4 Nexus Edition...

When the official Sony JB update comes, everything changes. We can run custom ROMs without a flaw with the help of 3rd party developers. There has been rumors that Android 4.3 is still going to be JB. Even if we cant upgrade our phones to Android 5. The problem is our ROMs are'nt stable enough.

lewis021 said:
When the official Sony JB update comes, everything changes. We can run custom ROMs without a flaw with the help of 3rd party developers. There has been rumors that Android 4.3 is still going to be JB. Even if we cant upgrade our phones to Android 5. The problem is our ROMs are'nt stable enough.
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Personally, the current ICS build is stable. Other than some Wifi drops, I dont see any major flaws in it.

lee480 said:
Personally, the current ICS build is stable. Other than some Wifi drops, I dont see any major flaws in it.
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The big problem about ICS is its very laggy, drains alot of battery and not smooth.

cabi.costa said:
Pretty much of your same opinion... I'm totally satisfied until now for what I've done with my Xperia S, but I really cannot stand anymore the politics of software update that Sony is pursuing.
And ok, my phone is fully unlocked and I tried a lot of custom roms to get closer to what is a pure android system, but to me those all are still full of bugs.
And to be honest, stock remains the best deal.
I'd like to switch to a pure Google Phone like the Nexus 4 but his great fragility, the weakness of the camera and the max 16gb of storage are three points that still makes me doubtful.
I'm considering the upcoming Galaxy S4 Nexus Edition...
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Yep, the Galaxy S phones are always a viable alternative, but I am not a big fan of Samsung. Too much plastic, and the user interface is somewhat dull and boring. Yes, the horsepower behind the back panel is immense but I am not a power user, not really. In fact, it turns out that Sony are the brand with the highest number of upper-mid-level devices at the moment (Xperia S, T; SP and ZR upcoming; not to mention all the derivatives like SL, TX, Ion, V, Acro S, etc., etc.) and I am rather leaning towards buying one such device. I am not too interested in the current flagship devices (Xperia Z, HTC One, Galaxy S4) since cheaper phones provide similar daily performance for some 2/3 of the price. Snapdragon S4 is one really capable platform and its wide availability makes it accessible to anyone.
To sum up, I am rather looking for a phone with a good manufacturer's support and expected updates till Android version 4.3, at least. The 16GB non-expandable storage of Nexus 4 is a deal-breaker for me as well. Maybe I will wait another couple of months, until SP and ZR get released and their prices decline to their true market values.
And guys, please stay on topic here. We are discussing Xperia S and its alternatives here, not Sony's customer policy in general. I know, there are many of you who are angry at the Japanese, I am somewhat dissatisfied myself. Anyway, please stop the rant because I believe this is a sensible topic and I do not want to see this thread closed. Thanks!

edit: nvm

I had similar thoughts too, until i realized that the hardware in my Xperia S is just fine for my needs for now. What is it you want to do with a newer chipset? And on the software side, I have my hopes on that things will improve somewhat once/if Sony releases the new kernel-sources.

This question has been as so many times, only you can decide what is best for you.
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