I know a lot of people are coming from the EVO 3D...
Anyway i have a few question becuase im reading stuff about flashing issues...
I was about to flash a ICS ROM(Paranoid or CM9) and i read that i have to be carefull beacuse if i want to go back Nandroids will not work?
Well how do i make a Nandroid that works? I read that the only way to go back is flashing Stock via Odin(Im i wrong?)
I just finish the rooting process and im ready to install ICS ROM.
In the evo way, only thing i need it to do was nandroid, wipe, install from zip, DONE.
Thanks guys!
rockypr said:
I know a lot of people are coming from the EVO 3D...
Anyway i have a few question becuase im reading stuff about flashing issues...
I was about to flash a ICS ROM(Paranoid or CM9) and i read that i have to be carefull beacuse if i want to go back Nandroids will not work?
Well how do i make a Nandroid that works? I read that the only way to go back is flashing Stock via Odin(Im i wrong?)
I just finish the rooting process and im ready to install ICS ROM.
In the evo way, only thing i need it to do was nandroid, wipe, install from zip, DONE.
Thanks guys!
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Basically make a nandroid with GB recovery the flash ics. If you want to restore Odin GB rom then nandroid restore.
Every rom should have instructions and as long as they are followed you should be safe.
Look up sfhub (I think) and agats custom recovery threads for more info.
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rockypr said:
I know a lot of people are coming from the EVO 3D...
Anyway i have a few question becuase im reading stuff about flashing issues...
I was about to flash a ICS ROM(Paranoid or CM9) and i read that i have to be carefull beacuse if i want to go back Nandroids will not work?
Well how do i make a Nandroid that works? I read that the only way to go back is flashing Stock via Odin(Im i wrong?)
I just finish the rooting process and im ready to install ICS ROM.
In the evo way, only thing i need it to do was nandroid, wipe, install from zip, DONE.
Thanks guys!
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Nandroids are perfectly safe, the only time when they're not safe, is when you make/restore from one on ICS.
The problem with all these ICS leaks, is a bug plaguing the emmc, which I believe that some methods of using ICS recoveries makes it wipe or something. Point is, it causes a brick. Here is the method that I use when flashing ICS, which works for most ICS ROMs, as most ICS ROMs need an EL26/EL29 framework. Pretty sure Paranoidandroid recommends this method, too.
Download these drivers
Download this: OC ODIN File for EL26 and this: E4GT Root Utility
Using Titanium Backup, make a backup of all your stuff, or use your preferred back-upper, just not nandroid. I recommend buying the Pro version, because it will save you so many times, and the dev is great. It's a little expensive though for an app.
OC Odin back to EL26. The good thing about this is, the process is straight forward, and doesn't add to your flash counter, and does not yellow triangle either.
Open up e4gtauto-sfx.exe, option C, then I. This gives you CWM, And just in case, I do not recommend using other than standard CWM to flash ICS roms. but that's me.
When your phone reboots, it should have CWM, and be rooted, just load up the flashing files onto your sd card, load up CWM, do 1 system data wipe, and flash the files in the order they have to be flashed.
Also, really important, DO NOT DIRECTLY RESTORE FROM A NANDROID You will most likely cause a brick if you do.
If you want to go back to GB, you have to Odin back to GB, and THEN you can perform the Nandroid Restore.
F3L1XZS said:
Nandroids are perfectly safe, the only time when they're not safe, is when you make/restore from one on ICS.
The problem with all these ICS leaks, is a bug plaguing the emmc, which I believe that some methods of using ICS recoveries makes it wipe or something. Point is, it causes a brick. Here is the method that I use when flashing ICS, which works for most ICS ROMs, as most ICS ROMs need an EL26/EL29 framework. Pretty sure Paranoidandroid recommends this method, too.
Download these drivers
Download this: OC ODIN File for EL26 and this: E4GT Root Utility
Using Titanium Backup, make a backup of all your stuff, or use your preferred back-upper, just not nandroid. I recommend buying the Pro version, because it will save you so many times, and the dev is great. It's a little expensive though for an app.
OC Odin back to EL26. The good thing about this is, the process is straight forward, and doesn't add to your flash counter, and does not yellow triangle either.
Open up e4gtauto-sfx.exe, option C, then I. This gives you CWM, And just in case, I do not recommend using other than standard CWM to flash ICS roms. but that's me.
When your phone reboots, it should have CWM, and be rooted, just load up the flashing files onto your sd card, load up CWM, do 1 system data wipe, and flash the files in the order they have to be flashed.
Also, really important, DO NOT DIRECTLY RESTORE FROM A NANDROID You will most likely cause a brick if you do.
If you want to go back to GB, you have to Odin back to GB, and THEN you can perform the Nandroid Restore.
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Great info THANKS!!!!...
Also there is no problem to flash that EL26 file? when my stock is el29?
rockypr said:
Great info THANKS!!!!...
Also there is no problem to flash that EL26 file? when my stock is el29?
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For OC ODIN, you don't have to worry about flashing, just plug your phone into the computer once you have the program running, an the drivers, and you'll be fine.
And yeah, you can go back using ODIN.
You just shouldn't use CWM to flash an older version of something if you're on the newer version.
So if install ICS and I want to return to GB the safe thing to do is run Odin back to stock rooted then Nandroid Restore?
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So if install ICS and I want to return to GB the safe thing to do is run Odin back to stock rooted then Nandroid Restore?
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That is correct.
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Hey all,
Is there anyway to get a version of cwm that can:
A) backup and restore nandroids on ics safely, ie, backup cm9, and restore a backup of fc15.
B) safely do all of this without bricking.
If not, do you guys think this ice, cwm, and bricking will ever be fixed? Thanks in advance!.
P.s., tired of having to Odin back to el29 to flash new roms from ics...........
Thanks!
mick3444 said:
Hey all,
Is there anyway to get a version of cwm that can:
A) backup and restore nandroids on ics safely, ie, backup cm9, and restore a backup of fc15.
B) safely do all of this without bricking.
If not, do you guys think this ice, cwm, and bricking will ever be fixed? Thanks in advance!.
P.s., tired of having to Odin back to el29 to flash new roms from ics...........
Thanks!
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Yes it will be fixed when they get source code and see just what scamsung changed ...but not yet keep Odin handy if your not a Mason.....
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Thanx, this is the answer I was looking for!
mick3444 said:
Hey all,
Is there anyway to get a version of cwm that can:
A) backup and restore nandroids on ics safely, ie, backup cm9, and restore a backup of fc15.
B) safely do all of this without bricking.
If not, do you guys think this ice, cwm, and bricking will ever be fixed? Thanks in advance!.
P.s., tired of having to Odin back to el29 to flash new roms from ics...........
Thanks!
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I use mobile Odin for replacing stock kernels with repacks then use ROM manager to boot into cwm recovery and flash away. Never wipe data in cwm or use reset as partitions changed. Calks format all
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So I soft bricked my phone... wasn't thinking and nandroid back to gingerbread from calkulin's ICS, then tried flashing CWM EL26 over it. Rebooted and I can't get back to recovery or download mode.
I'll try turning it on, see the samsung boot logo for two seconds and then it'll turn right back off.
What can I do? Thanks.
Update: Got into CWM... whew
To go back to gb, you need to install gb based cwm recovery first something like Rogue el29 recovery kernel and don't wait until reboot. During the reboot, go into recovery mode and restore your nandroid.
(Before restoring nandroid backup, format all is recommended)
One more important thing is, be sure that your nandroid backup is correct (md5 checksum).
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wushugene said:
So I soft bricked my phone... wasn't thinking and nandroid back to gingerbread from calkulin's ICS, then tried flashing CWM EL26 over it. Rebooted and I can't get back to recovery or download mode.
I'll try turning it on, see the samsung boot logo for two seconds and then it'll turn right back off.
What can I do? Thanks.
Update: Got into CWM... whew
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I'd be careful with the nandroid using CWM from ICS to GB, that's how I (and a few other people) hard bricked the phone with the early ICS leaks.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525495
If you're going back to GB I'd recommend using on of sfhub's One-Click ROM's!!
Just Odin back to EL29 with a full restore from Sfhub then install cwm from the autosticky root and restore your nand there, don't even touch the cwm included with ICS builds they are they're to flash things that don't require any wipes of any kind. People have been installing GB cwm through Odin then restoring from there but that is not a good idea and if you brick then don't say I didn't warn you.
xST4T1K said:
Just Odin back to EL29 with a full restore from Sfhub then install cwm from the autosticky root and restore your nand there, don't even touch the cwm included with ICS builds they are they're to flash things that don't require any wipes of any kind. People have been installing GB cwm through Odin then restoring from there but that is not a good idea and if you brick then don't say I didn't warn you.
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exactly what he said.
leaderbuilder said:
exactly what he said.
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At least we know what's good for us
I was wondering if I can Nandroid my current ICS setup using AGAT's? Whenever i backup using the EL26 Kernel, I have to go back to 1.85 odin, and Flash an ICS Kernel. This also adds the yellow triangle (ugh). I use mobile odin to flash my ICS Kernels. But when i restore using th EL26 Method, It requires me PC odin'ing a ICS Kernel. I learned my lesson hard bricking messing around a few days ago. I seemed to have no Problems Flashing multiple ICS roms with AGAT's recovery using the regular method (which was not how i bricked), And i even restored flawlessly a backed up setup without having to use Odin to flash a ICS tar since it can't boot without one. Anyone have a more convenient way? Or can i just use AGAT's to backup and restore my ICS roms?
Yes, the AGAT Recovery supports nandroid backup and restore.
Done it a few times going back to his earlier repacks. With the additional safety he has built in with the help of Chirs41g and sfhub I think they are very safe.
I actually create a nandroid close to every day to copy to my PC. Keep trying a few other ROMs; wiping flashing checking them out etc., but come back to Agat's work (via nandoids) because, for me anyways, everything works. And works very well.
Hi all,
I'm having trouble restoring backups when I go between GB and JB. Sbrissen's lastest Alpha build is the JB I'm using. Everything goes fine with the restore until "Data". Then the restore fails. I mobile odin the EL29 with autoboot into recovery, install the ROM (JB in this example) . I then try to restore a backup I made with the same exact version of CWM from the same exact ROM that I used to create the back up. Maybe a better question is How can I create a JB backup, go back to GB, and return to JB and restore that backup. Cause what I'm doing isn't working.
Thanks
Which GB ROM are you coming from? GB recoveries should be safe so you shouldn't have to Odin to EL29, unless you're on a stock ROM without a custom recovery. Also are you wiping system, data, cache, and dalvik cache prior to restoring your backup?
mwcarnage said:
Which GB ROM are you coming from? GB recoveries should be safe so you shouldn't have to Odin to EL29, unless you're on a stock ROM without a custom recovery. Also are you wiping system, data, cache, and dalvik cache prior to restoring your backup?
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I'm using the latest Blazer GB Rom. I'm wiping everything also,factory reset,cache,dalvik cache, etc. I have to flash back to GB to update an app that requires my correct serial number to work, JB Roms do not do this at the moment so the app wont work. That is the reason for flashing back to GB (didn't want to mess with ICS for obvious reasons). I'm coming from HTC Evo 4g so things are a little different. On the Epic 4G, I was under the impression you had to use the same recovery to restore that was used to create the backup. Can I just jump back and forth between GB and JB using the nand backup with each others recovery? GB's CWM is 5 and JB's CWM is 6. I didn't think you could because if the backup won't restore with the same CWM is was created with, how would it restore with another version? Still a little foggy on the process E4GT uses.
Thanks
dal320driver said:
I'm using the latest Blazer GB Rom. I'm wiping everything also,factory reset,cache,dalvik cache, etc. I have to flash back to GB to update an app that requires my correct serial number to work, JB Roms do not do this at the moment so the app wont work. That is the reason for flashing back to GB (didn't want to mess with ICS for obvious reasons). I'm coming from HTC Evo 4g so things are a little different. On the Epic 4G, I was under the impression you had to use the same recovery to restore that was used to create the backup. Can I just jump back and forth between GB and JB using the nand backup with each others recovery? GB's CWM is 5 and JB's CWM is 6. I didn't think you could because if the backup won't restore with the same CWM is was created with, how would it restore with another version? Still a little foggy on the process E4GT uses.
Thanks
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dal320driver said:
Hi all,
I'm having trouble restoring backups when I go between GB and JB. Sbrissen's lastest Alpha build is the JB I'm using. Everything goes fine with the restore until "Data". Then the restore fails. I mobile odin the EL29 with autoboot into recovery, install the ROM (JB in this example) . I then try to restore a backup I made with the same exact version of CWM from the same exact ROM that I used to create the back up. Maybe a better question is How can I create a JB backup, go back to GB, and return to JB and restore that backup. Cause what I'm doing isn't working.
Thanks
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I've gone from rooted EL29 back to a a JB ROM and restored with no issues. The ROM I use is Paranoid Android. I usually allow my phone to boot then reboot into recovery before restoring. Hopefully this isn't a stupid question, but sometimes things get forgotten/overlooked when flashing ROMs. Anyways, did you flash the JB gapps after flashing the ROM? Just asking since this step was not in your posts.
mwcarnage said:
Which GB ROM are you coming from? GB recoveries should be safe so you shouldn't have to Odin to EL29, unless you're on a stock ROM without a custom recovery. Also are you wiping system, data, cache, and dalvik cache prior to restoring your backup?
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kmok said:
I've gone from rooted EL29 back to a a JB ROM and restored with no issues. The ROM I use is Paranoid Android. I usually allow my phone to boot then reboot into recovery before restoring. Hopefully this isn't a stupid question, but sometimes things get forgotten/overlooked when flashing ROMs. Anyways, did you flash the JB gapps after flashing the ROM? Just asking since this step was not in your posts.
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Yes, I flashed JB gapps also. I'm not having trouble re-flashing the ROM's back and forth. . This part is successful. The problem is when I go back into recovery and try to restore a backup (of either ROM just flashed) it isn't working. Sorry for the confusion.
Thanks
dal320driver said:
Yes, I flashed JB gapps also. I'm not having trouble re-flashing the ROM's back and forth. . This part is successful. The problem is when I go back into recovery and try to restore a backup (of either ROM just flashed) it isn't working. Sorry for the confusion.
Thanks
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Okay, I was just making sure something wasn't forgotten when you were going back to JB this time around. I figured you were able to get the different ROMs working since you were able to make a backup of the JB ROM you were using. AFAIK the different versions of CWM (5 vs 6) shouldn't matter in this situation. Hopefully someone else has had the same problem and will be able to chime in.
CWM6 creates backups differently than CWM5 or most other recoveries. Instead of putting the entire backup in one folder, it has a separate Blobs folder that contains a lot of the data. If the folders get separated, the backup won't get restored correctly. Did you by any chance move the main folder or delete the blobs folder?
I've tried StockCWM-EL26 and Philz Touch. Both make nandroid backups without errors and restore without errors. But when I boot up after restore, I get constant popups for apps missing and crashing.
I'm to the point were I don't want to flash anything because if something happens and I want to go back, I have to start from scratch every time.
unknownsoldierx said:
I've tried StockCWM-EL26 and Philz Touch. Both make nandroid backups without errors and restore without errors. But when I boot up after restore, I get constant popups for apps missing and crashing.
I'm to the point were I don't want to flash anything because if something happens and I want to go back, I have to start from scratch every time.
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You should not use Philz to backup or restore. I have only used Philz to flash. Once I am on the ROM, the ROM's custom recovery is sufficient enough to do backups and restores. Most of the ROMs have a custom recovery already installed. Let's say you wanted to flash villuminati. You would use Philz to flash the ROM and Gapps. Once you rebooted into recovery again, you should be on CMW. You don't need anything else. In my time of being here, I have only used EL29 to get from AGATs recovery. AGATs is not good for flashing ROMs, so most ppl use EL26 or EL29. Try it this way and see if everything works. Remember, Philz should be used only to flash, never for backing up or restoring. Let me know how it works out.
I'm currently on stock JB and everything runs fine. I need a recovery I can flash to make a nandroid of my current setup, before flashing another rom.
In my experience with my previous phone, once I found a custom rom that I liked, I pretty much never needed to make a nandroid for that rom. But I need a reliable way of restoring my current stock setup.
I actually don't intend to use Philz for anything ever again. I was already aware that it wasn't good for backups, but the last time I used it to flash Liquid Smooth ran into a bunch of trouble. I didn't like the way the rom was running, so I booted into recovery and flashed Philz to use it's convenient "wipe for new rom" to make sure everything was clean for restore (I like that it deletes .android-secure on both SD cards.) Then I needed to flash StockCWM-EL26 to restore the nandroid, but when I tried to do that I just got an error 7. I tried flashing different recoveries, roms, modems. All gave errors. Philz wouldn't do anything. Had to hook phone up to the computer and flash StockCWM-EL26 using odin. Then I restored the nandroid, booted up and everything was fubar. Hooked up to PC again, flashed stock image using Odin, and set everything up from scratch.
unknownsoldierx said:
I'm currently on stock JB and everything runs fine. I need a recovery I can flash to make a nandroid of my current setup, before flashing another rom.
In my experience with my previous phone, once I found a custom rom that I liked, I pretty much never needed to make a nandroid for that rom. But I need a reliable way of restoring my current stock setup.
I actually don't intend to use Philz for anything ever again. I was already aware that it wasn't good for backups, but the last time I used it to flash Liquid Smooth ran into a bunch of trouble. I didn't like the way the rom was running, so I booted into recovery and flashed Philz to use it's convenient "wipe for new rom" to make sure everything was clean for restore (I like that it deletes .android-secure on both SD cards.) Then I needed to flash StockCWM-EL26 to restore the nandroid, but when I tried to do that I just got an error 7. I tried flashing different recoveries, roms, modems. All gave errors. Philz wouldn't do anything. Had to hook phone up to the computer and flash StockCWM-EL26 using odin. Then I restored the nandroid, booted up and everything was fubar. Hooked up to PC again, flashed stock image using Odin, and set everything up from scratch.
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The one thing I found out about these phones, is one thing may work for me buy not for you. It is the nature of the beast. Glad you were able to get things back up and running. Don't get discouraged. You should keep a copy of the one-click on your PC just in case you need to get back to stock. I have both the FL24 and GB27 for that specific reason.
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