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[Q]nandroid backup = back up and restore tool from rom manager?

simple, is nandroid backup = back up and restore tool from rom manager?
thanks for the answers: )

Yes.
'Nandroid' was the name of the 1st tool that did full nand flash image backups on the G1 and it's stuck ever since.

AWESOME!! thanks for the answer very kind of you

Hope you don't mind but i'm gonna piggy back a question.
Does a nandroid backup also back up the kernal?
In other words if I flash a different kernal, find out I don't like it. Then revert my rom to a past one. Does it also revert my kernal? If no, is it possible to make a backup of my kernal?

Not at all actually I'm glad you asked that.
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ddgarcia05 said:
Hope you don't mind but i'm gonna piggy back a question.
Does a nandroid backup also back up the kernal?
In other words if I flash a different kernal, find out I don't like it. Then revert my rom to a past one. Does it also revert my kernal? If no, is it possible to make a backup of my kernal?
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Pretty sure it backs up EVERYTHING, so that you could restore a phone just from that backup. Would be pretty useless without the kernal, now wouldn't it?

[Q] Soft-bricked ><

So I soft bricked my phone... wasn't thinking and nandroid back to gingerbread from calkulin's ICS, then tried flashing CWM EL26 over it. Rebooted and I can't get back to recovery or download mode.
I'll try turning it on, see the samsung boot logo for two seconds and then it'll turn right back off.
What can I do? Thanks.
Update: Got into CWM... whew

To go back to gb, you need to install gb based cwm recovery first something like Rogue el29 recovery kernel and don't wait until reboot. During the reboot, go into recovery mode and restore your nandroid.
(Before restoring nandroid backup, format all is recommended)
One more important thing is, be sure that your nandroid backup is correct (md5 checksum).
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wushugene said:
So I soft bricked my phone... wasn't thinking and nandroid back to gingerbread from calkulin's ICS, then tried flashing CWM EL26 over it. Rebooted and I can't get back to recovery or download mode.
I'll try turning it on, see the samsung boot logo for two seconds and then it'll turn right back off.
What can I do? Thanks.
Update: Got into CWM... whew
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I'd be careful with the nandroid using CWM from ICS to GB, that's how I (and a few other people) hard bricked the phone with the early ICS leaks.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525495
If you're going back to GB I'd recommend using on of sfhub's One-Click ROM's!!

Just Odin back to EL29 with a full restore from Sfhub then install cwm from the autosticky root and restore your nand there, don't even touch the cwm included with ICS builds they are they're to flash things that don't require any wipes of any kind. People have been installing GB cwm through Odin then restoring from there but that is not a good idea and if you brick then don't say I didn't warn you.

xST4T1K said:
Just Odin back to EL29 with a full restore from Sfhub then install cwm from the autosticky root and restore your nand there, don't even touch the cwm included with ICS builds they are they're to flash things that don't require any wipes of any kind. People have been installing GB cwm through Odin then restoring from there but that is not a good idea and if you brick then don't say I didn't warn you.
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exactly what he said.

leaderbuilder said:
exactly what he said.
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At least we know what's good for us

Coming from E3D... Questions!

I know a lot of people are coming from the EVO 3D...
Anyway i have a few question becuase im reading stuff about flashing issues...
I was about to flash a ICS ROM(Paranoid or CM9) and i read that i have to be carefull beacuse if i want to go back Nandroids will not work?
Well how do i make a Nandroid that works? I read that the only way to go back is flashing Stock via Odin(Im i wrong?)
I just finish the rooting process and im ready to install ICS ROM.
In the evo way, only thing i need it to do was nandroid, wipe, install from zip, DONE.
Thanks guys!

rockypr said:
I know a lot of people are coming from the EVO 3D...
Anyway i have a few question becuase im reading stuff about flashing issues...
I was about to flash a ICS ROM(Paranoid or CM9) and i read that i have to be carefull beacuse if i want to go back Nandroids will not work?
Well how do i make a Nandroid that works? I read that the only way to go back is flashing Stock via Odin(Im i wrong?)
I just finish the rooting process and im ready to install ICS ROM.
In the evo way, only thing i need it to do was nandroid, wipe, install from zip, DONE.
Thanks guys!
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Basically make a nandroid with GB recovery the flash ics. If you want to restore Odin GB rom then nandroid restore.
Every rom should have instructions and as long as they are followed you should be safe.
Look up sfhub (I think) and agats custom recovery threads for more info.
Happy independence day!
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rockypr said:
I know a lot of people are coming from the EVO 3D...
Anyway i have a few question becuase im reading stuff about flashing issues...
I was about to flash a ICS ROM(Paranoid or CM9) and i read that i have to be carefull beacuse if i want to go back Nandroids will not work?
Well how do i make a Nandroid that works? I read that the only way to go back is flashing Stock via Odin(Im i wrong?)
I just finish the rooting process and im ready to install ICS ROM.
In the evo way, only thing i need it to do was nandroid, wipe, install from zip, DONE.
Thanks guys!
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Nandroids are perfectly safe, the only time when they're not safe, is when you make/restore from one on ICS.
The problem with all these ICS leaks, is a bug plaguing the emmc, which I believe that some methods of using ICS recoveries makes it wipe or something. Point is, it causes a brick. Here is the method that I use when flashing ICS, which works for most ICS ROMs, as most ICS ROMs need an EL26/EL29 framework. Pretty sure Paranoidandroid recommends this method, too.
Download these drivers
Download this: OC ODIN File for EL26 and this: E4GT Root Utility
Using Titanium Backup, make a backup of all your stuff, or use your preferred back-upper, just not nandroid. I recommend buying the Pro version, because it will save you so many times, and the dev is great. It's a little expensive though for an app.
OC Odin back to EL26. The good thing about this is, the process is straight forward, and doesn't add to your flash counter, and does not yellow triangle either.
Open up e4gtauto-sfx.exe, option C, then I. This gives you CWM, And just in case, I do not recommend using other than standard CWM to flash ICS roms. but that's me.
When your phone reboots, it should have CWM, and be rooted, just load up the flashing files onto your sd card, load up CWM, do 1 system data wipe, and flash the files in the order they have to be flashed.
Also, really important, DO NOT DIRECTLY RESTORE FROM A NANDROID You will most likely cause a brick if you do.
If you want to go back to GB, you have to Odin back to GB, and THEN you can perform the Nandroid Restore.

F3L1XZS said:
Nandroids are perfectly safe, the only time when they're not safe, is when you make/restore from one on ICS.
The problem with all these ICS leaks, is a bug plaguing the emmc, which I believe that some methods of using ICS recoveries makes it wipe or something. Point is, it causes a brick. Here is the method that I use when flashing ICS, which works for most ICS ROMs, as most ICS ROMs need an EL26/EL29 framework. Pretty sure Paranoidandroid recommends this method, too.
Download these drivers
Download this: OC ODIN File for EL26 and this: E4GT Root Utility
Using Titanium Backup, make a backup of all your stuff, or use your preferred back-upper, just not nandroid. I recommend buying the Pro version, because it will save you so many times, and the dev is great. It's a little expensive though for an app.
OC Odin back to EL26. The good thing about this is, the process is straight forward, and doesn't add to your flash counter, and does not yellow triangle either.
Open up e4gtauto-sfx.exe, option C, then I. This gives you CWM, And just in case, I do not recommend using other than standard CWM to flash ICS roms. but that's me.
When your phone reboots, it should have CWM, and be rooted, just load up the flashing files onto your sd card, load up CWM, do 1 system data wipe, and flash the files in the order they have to be flashed.
Also, really important, DO NOT DIRECTLY RESTORE FROM A NANDROID You will most likely cause a brick if you do.
If you want to go back to GB, you have to Odin back to GB, and THEN you can perform the Nandroid Restore.
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Great info THANKS!!!!...
Also there is no problem to flash that EL26 file? when my stock is el29?

rockypr said:
Great info THANKS!!!!...
Also there is no problem to flash that EL26 file? when my stock is el29?
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For OC ODIN, you don't have to worry about flashing, just plug your phone into the computer once you have the program running, an the drivers, and you'll be fine.
And yeah, you can go back using ODIN.
You just shouldn't use CWM to flash an older version of something if you're on the newer version.

So if install ICS and I want to return to GB the safe thing to do is run Odin back to stock rooted then Nandroid Restore?
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rockypr said:
So if install ICS and I want to return to GB the safe thing to do is run Odin back to stock rooted then Nandroid Restore?
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That is correct.
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Flashing and restoring between GB and JB

Hi all,
I'm having trouble restoring backups when I go between GB and JB. Sbrissen's lastest Alpha build is the JB I'm using. Everything goes fine with the restore until "Data". Then the restore fails. I mobile odin the EL29 with autoboot into recovery, install the ROM (JB in this example) . I then try to restore a backup I made with the same exact version of CWM from the same exact ROM that I used to create the back up. Maybe a better question is How can I create a JB backup, go back to GB, and return to JB and restore that backup. Cause what I'm doing isn't working.
Thanks

Which GB ROM are you coming from? GB recoveries should be safe so you shouldn't have to Odin to EL29, unless you're on a stock ROM without a custom recovery. Also are you wiping system, data, cache, and dalvik cache prior to restoring your backup?

mwcarnage said:
Which GB ROM are you coming from? GB recoveries should be safe so you shouldn't have to Odin to EL29, unless you're on a stock ROM without a custom recovery. Also are you wiping system, data, cache, and dalvik cache prior to restoring your backup?
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I'm using the latest Blazer GB Rom. I'm wiping everything also,factory reset,cache,dalvik cache, etc. I have to flash back to GB to update an app that requires my correct serial number to work, JB Roms do not do this at the moment so the app wont work. That is the reason for flashing back to GB (didn't want to mess with ICS for obvious reasons). I'm coming from HTC Evo 4g so things are a little different. On the Epic 4G, I was under the impression you had to use the same recovery to restore that was used to create the backup. Can I just jump back and forth between GB and JB using the nand backup with each others recovery? GB's CWM is 5 and JB's CWM is 6. I didn't think you could because if the backup won't restore with the same CWM is was created with, how would it restore with another version? Still a little foggy on the process E4GT uses.
Thanks

dal320driver said:
I'm using the latest Blazer GB Rom. I'm wiping everything also,factory reset,cache,dalvik cache, etc. I have to flash back to GB to update an app that requires my correct serial number to work, JB Roms do not do this at the moment so the app wont work. That is the reason for flashing back to GB (didn't want to mess with ICS for obvious reasons). I'm coming from HTC Evo 4g so things are a little different. On the Epic 4G, I was under the impression you had to use the same recovery to restore that was used to create the backup. Can I just jump back and forth between GB and JB using the nand backup with each others recovery? GB's CWM is 5 and JB's CWM is 6. I didn't think you could because if the backup won't restore with the same CWM is was created with, how would it restore with another version? Still a little foggy on the process E4GT uses.
Thanks
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dal320driver said:
Hi all,
I'm having trouble restoring backups when I go between GB and JB. Sbrissen's lastest Alpha build is the JB I'm using. Everything goes fine with the restore until "Data". Then the restore fails. I mobile odin the EL29 with autoboot into recovery, install the ROM (JB in this example) . I then try to restore a backup I made with the same exact version of CWM from the same exact ROM that I used to create the back up. Maybe a better question is How can I create a JB backup, go back to GB, and return to JB and restore that backup. Cause what I'm doing isn't working.
Thanks
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I've gone from rooted EL29 back to a a JB ROM and restored with no issues. The ROM I use is Paranoid Android. I usually allow my phone to boot then reboot into recovery before restoring. Hopefully this isn't a stupid question, but sometimes things get forgotten/overlooked when flashing ROMs. Anyways, did you flash the JB gapps after flashing the ROM? Just asking since this step was not in your posts.

mwcarnage said:
Which GB ROM are you coming from? GB recoveries should be safe so you shouldn't have to Odin to EL29, unless you're on a stock ROM without a custom recovery. Also are you wiping system, data, cache, and dalvik cache prior to restoring your backup?
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kmok said:
I've gone from rooted EL29 back to a a JB ROM and restored with no issues. The ROM I use is Paranoid Android. I usually allow my phone to boot then reboot into recovery before restoring. Hopefully this isn't a stupid question, but sometimes things get forgotten/overlooked when flashing ROMs. Anyways, did you flash the JB gapps after flashing the ROM? Just asking since this step was not in your posts.
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Yes, I flashed JB gapps also. I'm not having trouble re-flashing the ROM's back and forth. . This part is successful. The problem is when I go back into recovery and try to restore a backup (of either ROM just flashed) it isn't working. Sorry for the confusion.
Thanks

dal320driver said:
Yes, I flashed JB gapps also. I'm not having trouble re-flashing the ROM's back and forth. . This part is successful. The problem is when I go back into recovery and try to restore a backup (of either ROM just flashed) it isn't working. Sorry for the confusion.
Thanks
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Okay, I was just making sure something wasn't forgotten when you were going back to JB this time around. I figured you were able to get the different ROMs working since you were able to make a backup of the JB ROM you were using. AFAIK the different versions of CWM (5 vs 6) shouldn't matter in this situation. Hopefully someone else has had the same problem and will be able to chime in.

CWM6 creates backups differently than CWM5 or most other recoveries. Instead of putting the entire backup in one folder, it has a separate Blobs folder that contains a lot of the data. If the folders get separated, the backup won't get restored correctly. Did you by any chance move the main folder or delete the blobs folder?

CWM Back and Forth

Hey guys,
I think I already know the answer to this, but wanted to double check before proceeding.
At the moment I'm actually still rocking Calk's 3.0. I wanted to play around with some of the new JB roms, but I want to back up my phone with CWM so that I can downgrade back to GB (Calk 3.0) if I ever wanted to come back.
It's completely possible for me to jump back to my backed up GB after upgrading to JB, right? I can just hop into CWM and restore back to my Calk 3.0 backup.
Thanks,
Gods

Godswrath said:
Hey guys,
I think I already know the answer to this, but wanted to double check before proceeding.
At the moment I'm actually still rocking Calk's 3.0. I wanted to play around with some of the new JB roms, but I want to back up my phone with CWM so that I can downgrade back to GB (Calk 3.0) if I ever wanted to come back.
It's completely possible for me to jump back to my backed up GB after upgrading to JB, right? I can just hop into CWM and restore back to my Calk 3.0 backup.
Thanks,
Gods
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Yes. Very simple too, actually.
Download the EL29Directboot kernel.
Flash the kernel with Mobile Odin.
Nandroid backup in recovery.
reflash calk's GB
Now follow the OP for whatever jellybean rom you want to flash. Whenever you want to come back to GB (which I doubt you will), just flash the EL29 directboot kernel with Mobile Odin, and restore the backup in recovery.

when going back to gingerbeead from jelly bean its best to do a stock one click gingerbread rom first. That way all partitions are set up like they need to be. Then you flash the el26 kernel and restore your nandroid thats gingerbread.
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