I want to oden the EL29 stock version with root without the data being overwritten. However before i do that I would like to nandroid backup my current configuration in case that goes wrong? how do i do that? I dont what to flash a bad kernal that causes the exclamation point.
I assume that i might need to use auto-root + cwm on my EK stock version to get the nandroid backup. Then after that flash the rooted stock EL29 rom?
Root your existing (assuming EK02 or before) using Auto Root Option A.
Then use Auto Root Option C to install CWM.
Then reboot to recovery and make your CWM/Nandroid backup.
If you already rooted, skip the first step.
thanks! Im going to try and flash the no-data version of EL29, but i want to backup all my data incase something goes wrong.
That's the right way to do things. Not that anything is expected to go wrong, but just be safe.
thanks for the quick comments. Everything worked well. Going to run stock root for a few days before loading EL29
I've been doing a lot of flashing back and forth lately with ICS leaks and usually for one reason or another I end up back on GB with my current setup. I tend to be picky and once I find something that doesn't work just right I'll flash back and wait for the next leak.. anyway, I'm wondering if it's possible to make a Odin tar of my current GB setup so I can simply reflash it via odin after trying out another ROM. I do use CWM to make a nandroid each time and go through the process of restoring the backup every time I go back, which usually involves flashing a stock GB rom, then flashing CWM, then restoring. Would be nice to be able to just go directly back to my setup via odin. Is this possible, and if so is it just colossally stupid?
Thanks!
There is a way to take it and put it through a Linux environment to be able to make an Odin tar. I would Google cwm zip to tar format. I am not familiar on the how to but know it can be dine.
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I know a lot of people are coming from the EVO 3D...
Anyway i have a few question becuase im reading stuff about flashing issues...
I was about to flash a ICS ROM(Paranoid or CM9) and i read that i have to be carefull beacuse if i want to go back Nandroids will not work?
Well how do i make a Nandroid that works? I read that the only way to go back is flashing Stock via Odin(Im i wrong?)
I just finish the rooting process and im ready to install ICS ROM.
In the evo way, only thing i need it to do was nandroid, wipe, install from zip, DONE.
Thanks guys!
rockypr said:
I know a lot of people are coming from the EVO 3D...
Anyway i have a few question becuase im reading stuff about flashing issues...
I was about to flash a ICS ROM(Paranoid or CM9) and i read that i have to be carefull beacuse if i want to go back Nandroids will not work?
Well how do i make a Nandroid that works? I read that the only way to go back is flashing Stock via Odin(Im i wrong?)
I just finish the rooting process and im ready to install ICS ROM.
In the evo way, only thing i need it to do was nandroid, wipe, install from zip, DONE.
Thanks guys!
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Basically make a nandroid with GB recovery the flash ics. If you want to restore Odin GB rom then nandroid restore.
Every rom should have instructions and as long as they are followed you should be safe.
Look up sfhub (I think) and agats custom recovery threads for more info.
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rockypr said:
I know a lot of people are coming from the EVO 3D...
Anyway i have a few question becuase im reading stuff about flashing issues...
I was about to flash a ICS ROM(Paranoid or CM9) and i read that i have to be carefull beacuse if i want to go back Nandroids will not work?
Well how do i make a Nandroid that works? I read that the only way to go back is flashing Stock via Odin(Im i wrong?)
I just finish the rooting process and im ready to install ICS ROM.
In the evo way, only thing i need it to do was nandroid, wipe, install from zip, DONE.
Thanks guys!
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Nandroids are perfectly safe, the only time when they're not safe, is when you make/restore from one on ICS.
The problem with all these ICS leaks, is a bug plaguing the emmc, which I believe that some methods of using ICS recoveries makes it wipe or something. Point is, it causes a brick. Here is the method that I use when flashing ICS, which works for most ICS ROMs, as most ICS ROMs need an EL26/EL29 framework. Pretty sure Paranoidandroid recommends this method, too.
Download these drivers
Download this: OC ODIN File for EL26 and this: E4GT Root Utility
Using Titanium Backup, make a backup of all your stuff, or use your preferred back-upper, just not nandroid. I recommend buying the Pro version, because it will save you so many times, and the dev is great. It's a little expensive though for an app.
OC Odin back to EL26. The good thing about this is, the process is straight forward, and doesn't add to your flash counter, and does not yellow triangle either.
Open up e4gtauto-sfx.exe, option C, then I. This gives you CWM, And just in case, I do not recommend using other than standard CWM to flash ICS roms. but that's me.
When your phone reboots, it should have CWM, and be rooted, just load up the flashing files onto your sd card, load up CWM, do 1 system data wipe, and flash the files in the order they have to be flashed.
Also, really important, DO NOT DIRECTLY RESTORE FROM A NANDROID You will most likely cause a brick if you do.
If you want to go back to GB, you have to Odin back to GB, and THEN you can perform the Nandroid Restore.
F3L1XZS said:
Nandroids are perfectly safe, the only time when they're not safe, is when you make/restore from one on ICS.
The problem with all these ICS leaks, is a bug plaguing the emmc, which I believe that some methods of using ICS recoveries makes it wipe or something. Point is, it causes a brick. Here is the method that I use when flashing ICS, which works for most ICS ROMs, as most ICS ROMs need an EL26/EL29 framework. Pretty sure Paranoidandroid recommends this method, too.
Download these drivers
Download this: OC ODIN File for EL26 and this: E4GT Root Utility
Using Titanium Backup, make a backup of all your stuff, or use your preferred back-upper, just not nandroid. I recommend buying the Pro version, because it will save you so many times, and the dev is great. It's a little expensive though for an app.
OC Odin back to EL26. The good thing about this is, the process is straight forward, and doesn't add to your flash counter, and does not yellow triangle either.
Open up e4gtauto-sfx.exe, option C, then I. This gives you CWM, And just in case, I do not recommend using other than standard CWM to flash ICS roms. but that's me.
When your phone reboots, it should have CWM, and be rooted, just load up the flashing files onto your sd card, load up CWM, do 1 system data wipe, and flash the files in the order they have to be flashed.
Also, really important, DO NOT DIRECTLY RESTORE FROM A NANDROID You will most likely cause a brick if you do.
If you want to go back to GB, you have to Odin back to GB, and THEN you can perform the Nandroid Restore.
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Great info THANKS!!!!...
Also there is no problem to flash that EL26 file? when my stock is el29?
rockypr said:
Great info THANKS!!!!...
Also there is no problem to flash that EL26 file? when my stock is el29?
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For OC ODIN, you don't have to worry about flashing, just plug your phone into the computer once you have the program running, an the drivers, and you'll be fine.
And yeah, you can go back using ODIN.
You just shouldn't use CWM to flash an older version of something if you're on the newer version.
So if install ICS and I want to return to GB the safe thing to do is run Odin back to stock rooted then Nandroid Restore?
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So if install ICS and I want to return to GB the safe thing to do is run Odin back to stock rooted then Nandroid Restore?
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That is correct.
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I have tried and tried to flash stock EL29 with Mobile Odin on Alpha5 of AOSP JB, and it doesn't work. Can I just flash an EL29 rom in CWM? I want to go back to GB.
P.S. I'm on a Mac
When I go back to GB, I Odin back to the EL26 recovery that I installed JB from, and then restore the nandroid backup I made of my original GB ROM. Then I'm back to what I had before I started; Calk's 3.0 GB ROM and Rogue kernel and CWM recovery in my case.
JimSmith94 said:
When I go back to GB, I Odin back to the EL26 recovery that I installed JB from, and then restore the nandroid backup I made of my original GB ROM. Then I'm back to what I had before I started; Calk's 3.0 GB ROM and Rogue kernel and CWM recovery in my case.
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Ok dont have all the info on what you are doing but going to assume that your trying to put a jb rom on and there's only a couple. The assuming part is which one your trying to do. You can flash your gb kernel back thru cwm. As for the back up depending on what your choosing to restore meaning if you do a full restore it will put your old rom back on that you previously had. I have put the jb rom on my phone and left it the way it came with out changing the kernel and have no issues I do have my phone flashed to another carrier so I do have to figure out how to get data working on it. But other than that it works flawlessly.
I've tried StockCWM-EL26 and Philz Touch. Both make nandroid backups without errors and restore without errors. But when I boot up after restore, I get constant popups for apps missing and crashing.
I'm to the point were I don't want to flash anything because if something happens and I want to go back, I have to start from scratch every time.
unknownsoldierx said:
I've tried StockCWM-EL26 and Philz Touch. Both make nandroid backups without errors and restore without errors. But when I boot up after restore, I get constant popups for apps missing and crashing.
I'm to the point were I don't want to flash anything because if something happens and I want to go back, I have to start from scratch every time.
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You should not use Philz to backup or restore. I have only used Philz to flash. Once I am on the ROM, the ROM's custom recovery is sufficient enough to do backups and restores. Most of the ROMs have a custom recovery already installed. Let's say you wanted to flash villuminati. You would use Philz to flash the ROM and Gapps. Once you rebooted into recovery again, you should be on CMW. You don't need anything else. In my time of being here, I have only used EL29 to get from AGATs recovery. AGATs is not good for flashing ROMs, so most ppl use EL26 or EL29. Try it this way and see if everything works. Remember, Philz should be used only to flash, never for backing up or restoring. Let me know how it works out.
I'm currently on stock JB and everything runs fine. I need a recovery I can flash to make a nandroid of my current setup, before flashing another rom.
In my experience with my previous phone, once I found a custom rom that I liked, I pretty much never needed to make a nandroid for that rom. But I need a reliable way of restoring my current stock setup.
I actually don't intend to use Philz for anything ever again. I was already aware that it wasn't good for backups, but the last time I used it to flash Liquid Smooth ran into a bunch of trouble. I didn't like the way the rom was running, so I booted into recovery and flashed Philz to use it's convenient "wipe for new rom" to make sure everything was clean for restore (I like that it deletes .android-secure on both SD cards.) Then I needed to flash StockCWM-EL26 to restore the nandroid, but when I tried to do that I just got an error 7. I tried flashing different recoveries, roms, modems. All gave errors. Philz wouldn't do anything. Had to hook phone up to the computer and flash StockCWM-EL26 using odin. Then I restored the nandroid, booted up and everything was fubar. Hooked up to PC again, flashed stock image using Odin, and set everything up from scratch.
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I'm currently on stock JB and everything runs fine. I need a recovery I can flash to make a nandroid of my current setup, before flashing another rom.
In my experience with my previous phone, once I found a custom rom that I liked, I pretty much never needed to make a nandroid for that rom. But I need a reliable way of restoring my current stock setup.
I actually don't intend to use Philz for anything ever again. I was already aware that it wasn't good for backups, but the last time I used it to flash Liquid Smooth ran into a bunch of trouble. I didn't like the way the rom was running, so I booted into recovery and flashed Philz to use it's convenient "wipe for new rom" to make sure everything was clean for restore (I like that it deletes .android-secure on both SD cards.) Then I needed to flash StockCWM-EL26 to restore the nandroid, but when I tried to do that I just got an error 7. I tried flashing different recoveries, roms, modems. All gave errors. Philz wouldn't do anything. Had to hook phone up to the computer and flash StockCWM-EL26 using odin. Then I restored the nandroid, booted up and everything was fubar. Hooked up to PC again, flashed stock image using Odin, and set everything up from scratch.
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The one thing I found out about these phones, is one thing may work for me buy not for you. It is the nature of the beast. Glad you were able to get things back up and running. Don't get discouraged. You should keep a copy of the one-click on your PC just in case you need to get back to stock. I have both the FL24 and GB27 for that specific reason.
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