I've been doing a lot of flashing back and forth lately with ICS leaks and usually for one reason or another I end up back on GB with my current setup. I tend to be picky and once I find something that doesn't work just right I'll flash back and wait for the next leak.. anyway, I'm wondering if it's possible to make a Odin tar of my current GB setup so I can simply reflash it via odin after trying out another ROM. I do use CWM to make a nandroid each time and go through the process of restoring the backup every time I go back, which usually involves flashing a stock GB rom, then flashing CWM, then restoring. Would be nice to be able to just go directly back to my setup via odin. Is this possible, and if so is it just colossally stupid?
Thanks!
There is a way to take it and put it through a Linux environment to be able to make an Odin tar. I would Google cwm zip to tar format. I am not familiar on the how to but know it can be dine.
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How do you dump an image of the phone's ROM to a file, and is it flashable via Odin when you dump it? If it is not Odin flashable, how do you make it so it can be flashed with Odin?
99% sure this isn't possible.
Closest you will get is doing a backup with ClockWork and then you can restore it to bring the phone back to the identical state it was when you made the backup.
You could probably dump the /system and make a .zip to get a flashable zip file but that's about it.
TheDub said:
99% sure this isn't possible.
Closest you will get is doing a backup with ClockWork and then you can restore it to bring the phone back to the identical state it was when you made the backup.
You could probably dump the /system and make a .zip to get a flashable zip file but that's about it.
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So how do we get the flashable files, such as "SPH-D700-DI18-8Gb-REL.tar" that we can flash via Odin? My main issue with CWM is for when I'm messing with other ROMS. To date, despite clearing all caches and data multiple times, I've never been able to do a CWM restore without first Odin flashing the base system (Stock DI18 or DK28). Every time I've backed up (say DI18) with CWM, flashed DK28, decided to go back to my original DI18, it would never restore right. It would only do so if I first Odin'ed the stock DI18, then restored the backup.
I'd love to be able to dump my own Odin flashable backup for these purposes.
Now if CWM was a full Nandroid backup that completely re-flashed the ROM top to bottom, that would be different.
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So how do we get the flashable files, such as "SPH-D700-DI18-8Gb-REL.tar" that we can flash via Odin? My main issue with CWM is for when I'm messing with other ROMS. To date, despite clearing all caches and data multiple times, I've never been able to do a CWM restore without first Odin flashing the base system (Stock DI18 or DK28). Every time I've backed up (say DI18) with CWM, flashed DK28, decided to go back to my original DI18, it would never restore right. It would only do so if I first Odin'ed the stock DI18, then restored the backup.
I'd love to be able to dump my own Odin flashable backup for these purposes.
Now if CWM was a full Nandroid backup that completely re-flashed the ROM top to bottom, that would be different.
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Were you making sure to flash a kernel when restoring your backup? Nandroid doesn't backup or restore your kernel. So if you updated to dk28 and then tried to restore back to di18, you would still have the dk28 kernel and would have problems. If you flash a di18 based kernel after restoring your di18 backup, you should be fine. I've found the easiest way to restore a backup is just to reflash the rom and then advanced restore /data. Your data partition is where your apps and settings will be.
Is it possible to have a rooted device, use nandroid to make a backup, revert to stock/unroot, and then restore data from that backup? Can you even use the backup after you unroot?
never tried that - although I do not see why not
odin back to factory reset
you will need to odin clockwork recovery as stock recovery will not work
three finger startup to Clockwork
then go to restore - advanced - pick the file and restore data only
I just learned about advanced restore recently but have not done what you ask
If it does not work you can restore to where you were with no harm done
remember that titanium backup only works with root access.
If you're stock then you won't have the recovery needed to do a restore from the nand backup.
Yes, you would have to have clockwork recovery installed also though. Then just odin back to one of the stock images. Then later re root and reinstall clockwork and restore back up.
If you are talking about EI22 and want to keep CWM as a recovery to be able to restore said backup then you will need a custom kernel anyway so that the stock recovery doesn't keep overwriting CWM. What is the reason why you want to do this?
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If you are talking about EI22 and want to keep CWM as a recovery to be able to restore said backup then you will need a custom kernel anyway so that the stock recovery doesn't keep overwriting CWM. What is the reason why you want to do this?
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I screwed up my phone a while back with the crappy samsung cable that comes with it. Ever since it has been slower and my pc won't recognize it no matter what I do. So I bought a new cable and I wanted to revert to stock to try and start over with the rooting and custom rom process, but I didn't want to lose all my contacts, apps, music, etc. in the process.
W0lfy B said:
I screwed up my phone a while back with the crappy samsung cable that comes with it. Ever since it has been slower and my pc won't recognize it no matter what I do. So I bought a new cable and I wanted to revert to stock to try and start over with the rooting and custom rom process, but I didn't want to lose all my contacts, apps, music, etc. in the process.
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OK. once you root again and have CWM back on you will be able to restore everything. So Odin away to EC05 stock, one-click root, flash a GB ROM and restore your data.
Well you should always be saving your contacts to your google account, then when you sign back in it will just use your account to reload your contacts. Your music is saved to SD, so when yiou open any new music program it should search your SD and find the music. Likeness previous posts, the issue your going to have doing this is not having a custom recovery...you wont be able to restore a nand with stock recovery. I agree with previous posts, it sucks you'll lose data, but the most functional and clean way to do this would be to Odin to EC05, use the EC05 to EI22 modem zip in the development section, and flash your custom rom and kernel. If you are concerned with performance and lag, see Universeral Adrenaline Shot and Supercharger script...good Luck!
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I was wondering if I can Nandroid my current ICS setup using AGAT's? Whenever i backup using the EL26 Kernel, I have to go back to 1.85 odin, and Flash an ICS Kernel. This also adds the yellow triangle (ugh). I use mobile odin to flash my ICS Kernels. But when i restore using th EL26 Method, It requires me PC odin'ing a ICS Kernel. I learned my lesson hard bricking messing around a few days ago. I seemed to have no Problems Flashing multiple ICS roms with AGAT's recovery using the regular method (which was not how i bricked), And i even restored flawlessly a backed up setup without having to use Odin to flash a ICS tar since it can't boot without one. Anyone have a more convenient way? Or can i just use AGAT's to backup and restore my ICS roms?
Yes, the AGAT Recovery supports nandroid backup and restore.
Done it a few times going back to his earlier repacks. With the additional safety he has built in with the help of Chirs41g and sfhub I think they are very safe.
I actually create a nandroid close to every day to copy to my PC. Keep trying a few other ROMs; wiping flashing checking them out etc., but come back to Agat's work (via nandoids) because, for me anyways, everything works. And works very well.
I know a lot of people are coming from the EVO 3D...
Anyway i have a few question becuase im reading stuff about flashing issues...
I was about to flash a ICS ROM(Paranoid or CM9) and i read that i have to be carefull beacuse if i want to go back Nandroids will not work?
Well how do i make a Nandroid that works? I read that the only way to go back is flashing Stock via Odin(Im i wrong?)
I just finish the rooting process and im ready to install ICS ROM.
In the evo way, only thing i need it to do was nandroid, wipe, install from zip, DONE.
Thanks guys!
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I know a lot of people are coming from the EVO 3D...
Anyway i have a few question becuase im reading stuff about flashing issues...
I was about to flash a ICS ROM(Paranoid or CM9) and i read that i have to be carefull beacuse if i want to go back Nandroids will not work?
Well how do i make a Nandroid that works? I read that the only way to go back is flashing Stock via Odin(Im i wrong?)
I just finish the rooting process and im ready to install ICS ROM.
In the evo way, only thing i need it to do was nandroid, wipe, install from zip, DONE.
Thanks guys!
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Basically make a nandroid with GB recovery the flash ics. If you want to restore Odin GB rom then nandroid restore.
Every rom should have instructions and as long as they are followed you should be safe.
Look up sfhub (I think) and agats custom recovery threads for more info.
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rockypr said:
I know a lot of people are coming from the EVO 3D...
Anyway i have a few question becuase im reading stuff about flashing issues...
I was about to flash a ICS ROM(Paranoid or CM9) and i read that i have to be carefull beacuse if i want to go back Nandroids will not work?
Well how do i make a Nandroid that works? I read that the only way to go back is flashing Stock via Odin(Im i wrong?)
I just finish the rooting process and im ready to install ICS ROM.
In the evo way, only thing i need it to do was nandroid, wipe, install from zip, DONE.
Thanks guys!
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Nandroids are perfectly safe, the only time when they're not safe, is when you make/restore from one on ICS.
The problem with all these ICS leaks, is a bug plaguing the emmc, which I believe that some methods of using ICS recoveries makes it wipe or something. Point is, it causes a brick. Here is the method that I use when flashing ICS, which works for most ICS ROMs, as most ICS ROMs need an EL26/EL29 framework. Pretty sure Paranoidandroid recommends this method, too.
Download these drivers
Download this: OC ODIN File for EL26 and this: E4GT Root Utility
Using Titanium Backup, make a backup of all your stuff, or use your preferred back-upper, just not nandroid. I recommend buying the Pro version, because it will save you so many times, and the dev is great. It's a little expensive though for an app.
OC Odin back to EL26. The good thing about this is, the process is straight forward, and doesn't add to your flash counter, and does not yellow triangle either.
Open up e4gtauto-sfx.exe, option C, then I. This gives you CWM, And just in case, I do not recommend using other than standard CWM to flash ICS roms. but that's me.
When your phone reboots, it should have CWM, and be rooted, just load up the flashing files onto your sd card, load up CWM, do 1 system data wipe, and flash the files in the order they have to be flashed.
Also, really important, DO NOT DIRECTLY RESTORE FROM A NANDROID You will most likely cause a brick if you do.
If you want to go back to GB, you have to Odin back to GB, and THEN you can perform the Nandroid Restore.
F3L1XZS said:
Nandroids are perfectly safe, the only time when they're not safe, is when you make/restore from one on ICS.
The problem with all these ICS leaks, is a bug plaguing the emmc, which I believe that some methods of using ICS recoveries makes it wipe or something. Point is, it causes a brick. Here is the method that I use when flashing ICS, which works for most ICS ROMs, as most ICS ROMs need an EL26/EL29 framework. Pretty sure Paranoidandroid recommends this method, too.
Download these drivers
Download this: OC ODIN File for EL26 and this: E4GT Root Utility
Using Titanium Backup, make a backup of all your stuff, or use your preferred back-upper, just not nandroid. I recommend buying the Pro version, because it will save you so many times, and the dev is great. It's a little expensive though for an app.
OC Odin back to EL26. The good thing about this is, the process is straight forward, and doesn't add to your flash counter, and does not yellow triangle either.
Open up e4gtauto-sfx.exe, option C, then I. This gives you CWM, And just in case, I do not recommend using other than standard CWM to flash ICS roms. but that's me.
When your phone reboots, it should have CWM, and be rooted, just load up the flashing files onto your sd card, load up CWM, do 1 system data wipe, and flash the files in the order they have to be flashed.
Also, really important, DO NOT DIRECTLY RESTORE FROM A NANDROID You will most likely cause a brick if you do.
If you want to go back to GB, you have to Odin back to GB, and THEN you can perform the Nandroid Restore.
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Great info THANKS!!!!...
Also there is no problem to flash that EL26 file? when my stock is el29?
rockypr said:
Great info THANKS!!!!...
Also there is no problem to flash that EL26 file? when my stock is el29?
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For OC ODIN, you don't have to worry about flashing, just plug your phone into the computer once you have the program running, an the drivers, and you'll be fine.
And yeah, you can go back using ODIN.
You just shouldn't use CWM to flash an older version of something if you're on the newer version.
So if install ICS and I want to return to GB the safe thing to do is run Odin back to stock rooted then Nandroid Restore?
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So if install ICS and I want to return to GB the safe thing to do is run Odin back to stock rooted then Nandroid Restore?
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That is correct.
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I've tried StockCWM-EL26 and Philz Touch. Both make nandroid backups without errors and restore without errors. But when I boot up after restore, I get constant popups for apps missing and crashing.
I'm to the point were I don't want to flash anything because if something happens and I want to go back, I have to start from scratch every time.
unknownsoldierx said:
I've tried StockCWM-EL26 and Philz Touch. Both make nandroid backups without errors and restore without errors. But when I boot up after restore, I get constant popups for apps missing and crashing.
I'm to the point were I don't want to flash anything because if something happens and I want to go back, I have to start from scratch every time.
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You should not use Philz to backup or restore. I have only used Philz to flash. Once I am on the ROM, the ROM's custom recovery is sufficient enough to do backups and restores. Most of the ROMs have a custom recovery already installed. Let's say you wanted to flash villuminati. You would use Philz to flash the ROM and Gapps. Once you rebooted into recovery again, you should be on CMW. You don't need anything else. In my time of being here, I have only used EL29 to get from AGATs recovery. AGATs is not good for flashing ROMs, so most ppl use EL26 or EL29. Try it this way and see if everything works. Remember, Philz should be used only to flash, never for backing up or restoring. Let me know how it works out.
I'm currently on stock JB and everything runs fine. I need a recovery I can flash to make a nandroid of my current setup, before flashing another rom.
In my experience with my previous phone, once I found a custom rom that I liked, I pretty much never needed to make a nandroid for that rom. But I need a reliable way of restoring my current stock setup.
I actually don't intend to use Philz for anything ever again. I was already aware that it wasn't good for backups, but the last time I used it to flash Liquid Smooth ran into a bunch of trouble. I didn't like the way the rom was running, so I booted into recovery and flashed Philz to use it's convenient "wipe for new rom" to make sure everything was clean for restore (I like that it deletes .android-secure on both SD cards.) Then I needed to flash StockCWM-EL26 to restore the nandroid, but when I tried to do that I just got an error 7. I tried flashing different recoveries, roms, modems. All gave errors. Philz wouldn't do anything. Had to hook phone up to the computer and flash StockCWM-EL26 using odin. Then I restored the nandroid, booted up and everything was fubar. Hooked up to PC again, flashed stock image using Odin, and set everything up from scratch.
unknownsoldierx said:
I'm currently on stock JB and everything runs fine. I need a recovery I can flash to make a nandroid of my current setup, before flashing another rom.
In my experience with my previous phone, once I found a custom rom that I liked, I pretty much never needed to make a nandroid for that rom. But I need a reliable way of restoring my current stock setup.
I actually don't intend to use Philz for anything ever again. I was already aware that it wasn't good for backups, but the last time I used it to flash Liquid Smooth ran into a bunch of trouble. I didn't like the way the rom was running, so I booted into recovery and flashed Philz to use it's convenient "wipe for new rom" to make sure everything was clean for restore (I like that it deletes .android-secure on both SD cards.) Then I needed to flash StockCWM-EL26 to restore the nandroid, but when I tried to do that I just got an error 7. I tried flashing different recoveries, roms, modems. All gave errors. Philz wouldn't do anything. Had to hook phone up to the computer and flash StockCWM-EL26 using odin. Then I restored the nandroid, booted up and everything was fubar. Hooked up to PC again, flashed stock image using Odin, and set everything up from scratch.
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The one thing I found out about these phones, is one thing may work for me buy not for you. It is the nature of the beast. Glad you were able to get things back up and running. Don't get discouraged. You should keep a copy of the one-click on your PC just in case you need to get back to stock. I have both the FL24 and GB27 for that specific reason.
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