I've tried StockCWM-EL26 and Philz Touch. Both make nandroid backups without errors and restore without errors. But when I boot up after restore, I get constant popups for apps missing and crashing.
I'm to the point were I don't want to flash anything because if something happens and I want to go back, I have to start from scratch every time.
unknownsoldierx said:
I've tried StockCWM-EL26 and Philz Touch. Both make nandroid backups without errors and restore without errors. But when I boot up after restore, I get constant popups for apps missing and crashing.
I'm to the point were I don't want to flash anything because if something happens and I want to go back, I have to start from scratch every time.
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You should not use Philz to backup or restore. I have only used Philz to flash. Once I am on the ROM, the ROM's custom recovery is sufficient enough to do backups and restores. Most of the ROMs have a custom recovery already installed. Let's say you wanted to flash villuminati. You would use Philz to flash the ROM and Gapps. Once you rebooted into recovery again, you should be on CMW. You don't need anything else. In my time of being here, I have only used EL29 to get from AGATs recovery. AGATs is not good for flashing ROMs, so most ppl use EL26 or EL29. Try it this way and see if everything works. Remember, Philz should be used only to flash, never for backing up or restoring. Let me know how it works out.
I'm currently on stock JB and everything runs fine. I need a recovery I can flash to make a nandroid of my current setup, before flashing another rom.
In my experience with my previous phone, once I found a custom rom that I liked, I pretty much never needed to make a nandroid for that rom. But I need a reliable way of restoring my current stock setup.
I actually don't intend to use Philz for anything ever again. I was already aware that it wasn't good for backups, but the last time I used it to flash Liquid Smooth ran into a bunch of trouble. I didn't like the way the rom was running, so I booted into recovery and flashed Philz to use it's convenient "wipe for new rom" to make sure everything was clean for restore (I like that it deletes .android-secure on both SD cards.) Then I needed to flash StockCWM-EL26 to restore the nandroid, but when I tried to do that I just got an error 7. I tried flashing different recoveries, roms, modems. All gave errors. Philz wouldn't do anything. Had to hook phone up to the computer and flash StockCWM-EL26 using odin. Then I restored the nandroid, booted up and everything was fubar. Hooked up to PC again, flashed stock image using Odin, and set everything up from scratch.
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I'm currently on stock JB and everything runs fine. I need a recovery I can flash to make a nandroid of my current setup, before flashing another rom.
In my experience with my previous phone, once I found a custom rom that I liked, I pretty much never needed to make a nandroid for that rom. But I need a reliable way of restoring my current stock setup.
I actually don't intend to use Philz for anything ever again. I was already aware that it wasn't good for backups, but the last time I used it to flash Liquid Smooth ran into a bunch of trouble. I didn't like the way the rom was running, so I booted into recovery and flashed Philz to use it's convenient "wipe for new rom" to make sure everything was clean for restore (I like that it deletes .android-secure on both SD cards.) Then I needed to flash StockCWM-EL26 to restore the nandroid, but when I tried to do that I just got an error 7. I tried flashing different recoveries, roms, modems. All gave errors. Philz wouldn't do anything. Had to hook phone up to the computer and flash StockCWM-EL26 using odin. Then I restored the nandroid, booted up and everything was fubar. Hooked up to PC again, flashed stock image using Odin, and set everything up from scratch.
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The one thing I found out about these phones, is one thing may work for me buy not for you. It is the nature of the beast. Glad you were able to get things back up and running. Don't get discouraged. You should keep a copy of the one-click on your PC just in case you need to get back to stock. I have both the FL24 and GB27 for that specific reason.
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Just wondering what course of action I should take. If anything could get me back to my first nandroid. I just rooted my phone, and I started trying out roms, seeing which I liked best. Not sure how it works exactly, but I figured it was that I could go from one nandroid to any other and it would work. I flashed mik3d, made a nandroid, and then flashed destroyer. All correct steps done, all fine up until that point. Tried to restore, and neither of the nandroids worked. And i tested them before I flashed destroyer. I was stuck in destroyer. Since then ive been able to flash either destroyer or mik3d, but i tried cyanogen and it gets me stuck in bootloop no matter what I do. After flashing mik3d or destroyer, it let's me restore to the last backup before the flash. No other. I backed up my apps originally, but not the data. i guess i just wanna know if I could find a way to restore the original nandroid and get my apps back instead of losing all the data. Also, mik3d is currently running EXTREMELY slow. Computer unavailable for the next few hours, typing this on my phone, and its so laggy. This has taken about 15-20 minutes to type. And if there really is no way to restore my app data by restoring the original nandroid, then what should i do to restore to stock ROM, rooted or not, doesnt matter.
OK, first off, if you're just rooted, you probably have Clockwork Mod for recovery.
You want to change that to Amon Ra.
There's a post in the development section with the file and how to flash it.
This will make your nandroids obsolete.
If you DO have Amon Ra now, or after you flash it, so this:
Go to Wipe.
Wipe All User Data/Factory Reset.
Then wipe ever sub-option, EXCEPT, SD Card: or Battery Stats if you're not fully charged.
Hit return and USB Toggle. Put the ROM you want to flash on your SD Card, then you can flash that. If I were you, I would just use the Stock/Rooted ROM from the Dev section first. You need to have a Sense ROM anyhow, if you ever need to update PRL, Profile, or take your phone into Sprint.
Once you have that loaded up, go back to Recovery and make a Nandroid of it. I always backup everything except cache, which ensures that if I have to restore, it's exactly back to how I had it all set up.
Then, put a custom ROM on that you want to flash, repeat the Wipe Procedure and flash away!
Well I'll try all that when I get home. In the middle of a 4 hour drive now. But I realized that I might have an out. Just got a new SD card yesterday, and I was using that. Switched to the old one, which happens to be after I loaded mik3d but not yet destroyer, and I'm back to the stock Rom rooted. I'll deal with the rest later.
I was wondering if I can Nandroid my current ICS setup using AGAT's? Whenever i backup using the EL26 Kernel, I have to go back to 1.85 odin, and Flash an ICS Kernel. This also adds the yellow triangle (ugh). I use mobile odin to flash my ICS Kernels. But when i restore using th EL26 Method, It requires me PC odin'ing a ICS Kernel. I learned my lesson hard bricking messing around a few days ago. I seemed to have no Problems Flashing multiple ICS roms with AGAT's recovery using the regular method (which was not how i bricked), And i even restored flawlessly a backed up setup without having to use Odin to flash a ICS tar since it can't boot without one. Anyone have a more convenient way? Or can i just use AGAT's to backup and restore my ICS roms?
Yes, the AGAT Recovery supports nandroid backup and restore.
Done it a few times going back to his earlier repacks. With the additional safety he has built in with the help of Chirs41g and sfhub I think they are very safe.
I actually create a nandroid close to every day to copy to my PC. Keep trying a few other ROMs; wiping flashing checking them out etc., but come back to Agat's work (via nandoids) because, for me anyways, everything works. And works very well.
I know a lot of people are coming from the EVO 3D...
Anyway i have a few question becuase im reading stuff about flashing issues...
I was about to flash a ICS ROM(Paranoid or CM9) and i read that i have to be carefull beacuse if i want to go back Nandroids will not work?
Well how do i make a Nandroid that works? I read that the only way to go back is flashing Stock via Odin(Im i wrong?)
I just finish the rooting process and im ready to install ICS ROM.
In the evo way, only thing i need it to do was nandroid, wipe, install from zip, DONE.
Thanks guys!
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I know a lot of people are coming from the EVO 3D...
Anyway i have a few question becuase im reading stuff about flashing issues...
I was about to flash a ICS ROM(Paranoid or CM9) and i read that i have to be carefull beacuse if i want to go back Nandroids will not work?
Well how do i make a Nandroid that works? I read that the only way to go back is flashing Stock via Odin(Im i wrong?)
I just finish the rooting process and im ready to install ICS ROM.
In the evo way, only thing i need it to do was nandroid, wipe, install from zip, DONE.
Thanks guys!
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Basically make a nandroid with GB recovery the flash ics. If you want to restore Odin GB rom then nandroid restore.
Every rom should have instructions and as long as they are followed you should be safe.
Look up sfhub (I think) and agats custom recovery threads for more info.
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rockypr said:
I know a lot of people are coming from the EVO 3D...
Anyway i have a few question becuase im reading stuff about flashing issues...
I was about to flash a ICS ROM(Paranoid or CM9) and i read that i have to be carefull beacuse if i want to go back Nandroids will not work?
Well how do i make a Nandroid that works? I read that the only way to go back is flashing Stock via Odin(Im i wrong?)
I just finish the rooting process and im ready to install ICS ROM.
In the evo way, only thing i need it to do was nandroid, wipe, install from zip, DONE.
Thanks guys!
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Nandroids are perfectly safe, the only time when they're not safe, is when you make/restore from one on ICS.
The problem with all these ICS leaks, is a bug plaguing the emmc, which I believe that some methods of using ICS recoveries makes it wipe or something. Point is, it causes a brick. Here is the method that I use when flashing ICS, which works for most ICS ROMs, as most ICS ROMs need an EL26/EL29 framework. Pretty sure Paranoidandroid recommends this method, too.
Download these drivers
Download this: OC ODIN File for EL26 and this: E4GT Root Utility
Using Titanium Backup, make a backup of all your stuff, or use your preferred back-upper, just not nandroid. I recommend buying the Pro version, because it will save you so many times, and the dev is great. It's a little expensive though for an app.
OC Odin back to EL26. The good thing about this is, the process is straight forward, and doesn't add to your flash counter, and does not yellow triangle either.
Open up e4gtauto-sfx.exe, option C, then I. This gives you CWM, And just in case, I do not recommend using other than standard CWM to flash ICS roms. but that's me.
When your phone reboots, it should have CWM, and be rooted, just load up the flashing files onto your sd card, load up CWM, do 1 system data wipe, and flash the files in the order they have to be flashed.
Also, really important, DO NOT DIRECTLY RESTORE FROM A NANDROID You will most likely cause a brick if you do.
If you want to go back to GB, you have to Odin back to GB, and THEN you can perform the Nandroid Restore.
F3L1XZS said:
Nandroids are perfectly safe, the only time when they're not safe, is when you make/restore from one on ICS.
The problem with all these ICS leaks, is a bug plaguing the emmc, which I believe that some methods of using ICS recoveries makes it wipe or something. Point is, it causes a brick. Here is the method that I use when flashing ICS, which works for most ICS ROMs, as most ICS ROMs need an EL26/EL29 framework. Pretty sure Paranoidandroid recommends this method, too.
Download these drivers
Download this: OC ODIN File for EL26 and this: E4GT Root Utility
Using Titanium Backup, make a backup of all your stuff, or use your preferred back-upper, just not nandroid. I recommend buying the Pro version, because it will save you so many times, and the dev is great. It's a little expensive though for an app.
OC Odin back to EL26. The good thing about this is, the process is straight forward, and doesn't add to your flash counter, and does not yellow triangle either.
Open up e4gtauto-sfx.exe, option C, then I. This gives you CWM, And just in case, I do not recommend using other than standard CWM to flash ICS roms. but that's me.
When your phone reboots, it should have CWM, and be rooted, just load up the flashing files onto your sd card, load up CWM, do 1 system data wipe, and flash the files in the order they have to be flashed.
Also, really important, DO NOT DIRECTLY RESTORE FROM A NANDROID You will most likely cause a brick if you do.
If you want to go back to GB, you have to Odin back to GB, and THEN you can perform the Nandroid Restore.
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Great info THANKS!!!!...
Also there is no problem to flash that EL26 file? when my stock is el29?
rockypr said:
Great info THANKS!!!!...
Also there is no problem to flash that EL26 file? when my stock is el29?
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For OC ODIN, you don't have to worry about flashing, just plug your phone into the computer once you have the program running, an the drivers, and you'll be fine.
And yeah, you can go back using ODIN.
You just shouldn't use CWM to flash an older version of something if you're on the newer version.
So if install ICS and I want to return to GB the safe thing to do is run Odin back to stock rooted then Nandroid Restore?
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So if install ICS and I want to return to GB the safe thing to do is run Odin back to stock rooted then Nandroid Restore?
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That is correct.
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Hi all,
I'm having trouble restoring backups when I go between GB and JB. Sbrissen's lastest Alpha build is the JB I'm using. Everything goes fine with the restore until "Data". Then the restore fails. I mobile odin the EL29 with autoboot into recovery, install the ROM (JB in this example) . I then try to restore a backup I made with the same exact version of CWM from the same exact ROM that I used to create the back up. Maybe a better question is How can I create a JB backup, go back to GB, and return to JB and restore that backup. Cause what I'm doing isn't working.
Thanks
Which GB ROM are you coming from? GB recoveries should be safe so you shouldn't have to Odin to EL29, unless you're on a stock ROM without a custom recovery. Also are you wiping system, data, cache, and dalvik cache prior to restoring your backup?
mwcarnage said:
Which GB ROM are you coming from? GB recoveries should be safe so you shouldn't have to Odin to EL29, unless you're on a stock ROM without a custom recovery. Also are you wiping system, data, cache, and dalvik cache prior to restoring your backup?
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I'm using the latest Blazer GB Rom. I'm wiping everything also,factory reset,cache,dalvik cache, etc. I have to flash back to GB to update an app that requires my correct serial number to work, JB Roms do not do this at the moment so the app wont work. That is the reason for flashing back to GB (didn't want to mess with ICS for obvious reasons). I'm coming from HTC Evo 4g so things are a little different. On the Epic 4G, I was under the impression you had to use the same recovery to restore that was used to create the backup. Can I just jump back and forth between GB and JB using the nand backup with each others recovery? GB's CWM is 5 and JB's CWM is 6. I didn't think you could because if the backup won't restore with the same CWM is was created with, how would it restore with another version? Still a little foggy on the process E4GT uses.
Thanks
dal320driver said:
I'm using the latest Blazer GB Rom. I'm wiping everything also,factory reset,cache,dalvik cache, etc. I have to flash back to GB to update an app that requires my correct serial number to work, JB Roms do not do this at the moment so the app wont work. That is the reason for flashing back to GB (didn't want to mess with ICS for obvious reasons). I'm coming from HTC Evo 4g so things are a little different. On the Epic 4G, I was under the impression you had to use the same recovery to restore that was used to create the backup. Can I just jump back and forth between GB and JB using the nand backup with each others recovery? GB's CWM is 5 and JB's CWM is 6. I didn't think you could because if the backup won't restore with the same CWM is was created with, how would it restore with another version? Still a little foggy on the process E4GT uses.
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dal320driver said:
Hi all,
I'm having trouble restoring backups when I go between GB and JB. Sbrissen's lastest Alpha build is the JB I'm using. Everything goes fine with the restore until "Data". Then the restore fails. I mobile odin the EL29 with autoboot into recovery, install the ROM (JB in this example) . I then try to restore a backup I made with the same exact version of CWM from the same exact ROM that I used to create the back up. Maybe a better question is How can I create a JB backup, go back to GB, and return to JB and restore that backup. Cause what I'm doing isn't working.
Thanks
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I've gone from rooted EL29 back to a a JB ROM and restored with no issues. The ROM I use is Paranoid Android. I usually allow my phone to boot then reboot into recovery before restoring. Hopefully this isn't a stupid question, but sometimes things get forgotten/overlooked when flashing ROMs. Anyways, did you flash the JB gapps after flashing the ROM? Just asking since this step was not in your posts.
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Which GB ROM are you coming from? GB recoveries should be safe so you shouldn't have to Odin to EL29, unless you're on a stock ROM without a custom recovery. Also are you wiping system, data, cache, and dalvik cache prior to restoring your backup?
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kmok said:
I've gone from rooted EL29 back to a a JB ROM and restored with no issues. The ROM I use is Paranoid Android. I usually allow my phone to boot then reboot into recovery before restoring. Hopefully this isn't a stupid question, but sometimes things get forgotten/overlooked when flashing ROMs. Anyways, did you flash the JB gapps after flashing the ROM? Just asking since this step was not in your posts.
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Yes, I flashed JB gapps also. I'm not having trouble re-flashing the ROM's back and forth. . This part is successful. The problem is when I go back into recovery and try to restore a backup (of either ROM just flashed) it isn't working. Sorry for the confusion.
Thanks
dal320driver said:
Yes, I flashed JB gapps also. I'm not having trouble re-flashing the ROM's back and forth. . This part is successful. The problem is when I go back into recovery and try to restore a backup (of either ROM just flashed) it isn't working. Sorry for the confusion.
Thanks
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Okay, I was just making sure something wasn't forgotten when you were going back to JB this time around. I figured you were able to get the different ROMs working since you were able to make a backup of the JB ROM you were using. AFAIK the different versions of CWM (5 vs 6) shouldn't matter in this situation. Hopefully someone else has had the same problem and will be able to chime in.
CWM6 creates backups differently than CWM5 or most other recoveries. Instead of putting the entire backup in one folder, it has a separate Blobs folder that contains a lot of the data. If the folders get separated, the backup won't get restored correctly. Did you by any chance move the main folder or delete the blobs folder?
Hello, I recently rooted my wifes Note 2 that was on the latest OTA 4.3. Was not easy BTW. I did a back up in recovery of boot, system, and data. I figured I was good to go and start trying out other roms.
The first one I flashed was Macks Allstar 5.0 rom. Everything was great. Then my wife informed me that she did not have all of her contacts backed up to google and some were only saved to her phone. So then I figure I could just restore the original backup and extract the contacts and be able to install them to any rom.
Thats when everything went wrong. Everytime I tried restoring the back up,it would crash and recovery would do like a reboot. After many attempts I figured id try another version of recovery. After flashing many earlier versions of twrp and trying to restore, I finally was able to complete a restore from version 2.6. I was ecstatic. But then my heart sank again when boot always hangs on samsung logo. And that is where I'm stuck. I am able to flash other roms no problem but cant restore my original backup.
Needless to say my wife is ready to kill me.
Please if anyone could help me I would really appreciate it. I have searched throughout this forum and internet for hours and can not seem to find any help with this issue.
I am thankful to have been able to get this far with the help from the XDA community posts I never needed direct help even with prior phone rootings but this one has got me stumped. Thanks in advance
You need to flash Phil's recovery version 6.0.7.9. If you cant restore your backup with Phil's then I'm thinking you might be sol. Make sure you know where you saved the backup to. It's either on the phone's internal sd or external sd card. Choose the correct location in Phil's recovery and if it isn't corrupt it should work. You may also want to copy your backup onto your pc just in case because that's your only backup and doing a full wipe or odin restore could permanently delete it. Good luck.
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You need to flash Phil's recovery version 6.0.7.9. If you cant restore your backup with Phil's then I'm thinking you might be sol. Make sure you know where you saved the backup to. It's either on the phone's internal sd or external sd card. Choose the correct location in Phil's recovery and if it isn't corrupt it should work. You may also want to copy your backup onto your pc just in case because that's your only backup and doing a full wipe or odin restore could permanently delete it. Good luck.
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Thank you for your reply. I am at work right now and left the phone with my wife with a working rom. I will try phils recovery when I get home. As far as backups, I have two copies. One on my SD card and the other on PC but if they're both fried I guess that negates my efforts in redundancy. It's hard to believe the backup got corrupt so quickly. I have another backup of the 2nd rom I flashed and that one wont install as well.
Is there something I am doing wrong? If the backup file is corrupt, is there a way to extract contacts seperately out of backup?
Method b.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2648855
My wife does that too. Sorry
ColeTrain! said:
Method b.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2648855
My wife does that too. Sorry
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Life of a married man. Haha!
Well, as my backup file was done with TWRP, I tried method B with TWRP recovery and it wont work so now I'm in the process of trying method A. Will update once I tried it.
I think my problem has to do with TWRP not playing friendly with 4.3 ROMS. If that is the case method A looks like it will work.:fingers-crossed:
alexandnen said:
Life of a married man. Haha!
Well, as my backup file was done with TWRP, I tried method B with TWRP recovery and it wont work so now I'm in the process of trying method A. Will update once I tried it.
I think my problem has to do with TWRP not playing friendly with 4.3 ROMS. If that is the case method A looks like it will work.:fingers-crossed:
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That's exactly right. Bootloader isn't playing well with TWRP recovery. Phil"s 6.0.7.9 seems to be compatible in most ROM vs bootloader situations. Don't use latest version of Phil's recovery as it doesn't work as well and most people recommend this as well.
If Phil's recovery won't flash your restore then Odin all the way back to stock unrooted LK8 ROM then root it with the Toolkit and flash TWRP from the toolkit at the same time. Then see if you can restore at that point.
Looks like this project has come to an end. My wife likes her new rom and doesn't want to let me work on her phone anymore. She was able to get most of her contacts back I will make sure she backs her contacts to google and I will try to convince her to install Titanium backup to backup all her app data.
Unfortunately all I have is a work issued iphone that I have no interest in jailbreaking. I really don't see the point.
I am still confident that I could have eventually restored her backup successfully with the help here.
Thank you tx_dbx_tx and coletrain for your help.