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Android 2.2 + Sense + 720p

Where can I get this ROM?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1h-yJPq8M0
It seems HTC official..
found the original source: http://www.myppc.it/web/viewtopic.php?t=3352&f=44
It's gonna be released today

It's buried in HERE

It's a prototype test Rom from HTC. ROM has watermark and tracking. Not supposed for public release.
Let's just wait for the public official release which should not be too far...
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ruffruff said:
Let's just wait for the public official release which should not be too far...
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If you mean the HTC official release, there's no guarantee of that.
There were leaked builds of 2.1 with Sense for the Hero more than 6 months before they actually started to release it.
Whilst I don't expect the Desire release to be too far away, I'm just pointing out that the existence of an almost feature complete 2.2 with Sense leaked build, doesn't necessarily mean that HTC will release the final soon (though they may of course!).
What does work in our favour at the moment is that the Desire/EVO/Incredible still look to be the flagship HTC Android phones for a few more months, whereas with the Hero HTC wanted to sell Nexus One's, Desires, and Legends and the delay looked very much like a cynical attempt to boost sales on the newer devices first.
Regards,
Dave

Wouldn't get your hopes up of anything soon
Interview with HTC's PR Manager

GB for Desire/Bravo with Sense 3.0

i just got response from htc regarding my question will GB update for Desire/Bravo contain Sense 3.0...this is what they sent me:
Thank you for contacting HTC.
In regards to your enquiry, kindly note that the 2.3 gingerbread upgrade has not been released for the Desire phone yet, but it will be relased soon.
kindly note that that the upgrade will include the new HTC Sense 3.0.

Wow! that's really great!

So they are suggesting that the leaked Rom was a very early test build and not close to final.hmm
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I highly doubt this.
If it would contain a Sense upgrade, it would be 2.1, but certainly not 3.0
First of all, the hardware of the Desire isnt capable of running Sense 3.0 without a bunch of hacks (see custom roms) and secondly, it would affect sales on their newer devices.
Also see:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/14/htc-sense-3-0-will-only-support-sensation-evo-3d-flyer-and-new/

If you copied and pasted that message from your email then the sender hasn't spelt the second released properly.
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Lunatic2 said:
I highly doubt this.
If it would contain a Sense upgrade, it would be 2.1, but certainly not 3.0
First of all, the hardware of the Desire isnt capable of running Sense 3.0 without a bunch of hacks (see custom roms) and secondly, it would affect sales on their newer devices.
Also see:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/14/htc-sense-3-0-will-only-support-sensation-evo-3d-flyer-and-new/
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Maybe some bits of sense 3.0 like sense 2.5?
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sergmeister said:
Maybe some bits of sense 3.0 like sense 2.5?
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That might be, yes. But I don't think that they will release a full sense 3 version for desire.... Until then we have our devs (*damo* has released a version from the leaked kingdom ruu)
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i think the best you can hope for is the same as the DHD

maybe it'll be sense 3.0, just optimized for desire...

heraSK said:
maybe it'll be sense 3.0, just optimized for desire...
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I also find this highly unlikely.
Why would HTC want to update what is an end of life device with their latest sense version?
It doesn't make sense (excuse the pun).
From a commercial point of view, if they did that, they would be shooting themselves in the foot, and I don't think they are that stupid.

_thalamus said:
I also find this highly unlikely.
Why would HTC want to update what is an end of life device with their latest sense version?
It doesn't make sense (excuse the pun).
From a commercial point of view, if they did that, they would be shooting themselves in the foot, and I don't think they are that stupid.
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Imo they would be stupid if they do not provide updates. I will never buy a Samsung smartphone again just because of that...
Apple always provides latest updates for their phones and that is a good thing.

_thalamus said:
I also find this highly unlikely.
Why would HTC want to update what is an end of life device with their latest sense version?
It doesn't make sense (excuse the pun).
From a commercial point of view, if they did that, they would be shooting themselves in the foot, and I don't think they are that stupid.
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HTC is anything but stupid. Look at the way they market discriminate their products, adding and subtracting bits and pieces here and there. What they can't do is stop unofficial development, hence the upcoming invite to developers to contribute to making their products more "desirable".
Here's an idea: why pay for r & d when you can get it for free?

i just got another reply from HTC, it looks like they were to hasty with the first answer:
"In regards to your enquiry before, about the HTC sense version 3.0 with the 2.3 gingerbread update for the HTC Desire phone.
I do apologize for contacting you again, but I have just received an update from HTC, that the Desire phone will receive the 2.3 gingerbread upgrade/update soon. However unfortunately, there is no confirmation yet in regards whether the updated Desire phone will have the new sense version 3.0 or not.
I really do apologize for the inconvinience."
looks like the modders here on XDA will still have something to work on... but, fingers crossed....

heraSK said:
i just got another reply from HTC, it looks like they were to hasty with the first answer:
"In regards to your enquiry before, about the HTC sense version 3.0 with the 2.3 gingerbread update for the HTC Desire phone.
I do apologize for contacting you again, but I have just received an update from HTC, that the Desire phone will receive the 2.3 gingerbread upgrade/update soon. However unfortunately, there is no confirmation yet in regards whether the updated Desire phone will have the new sense version 3.0 or not.
I really do apologize for the inconvinience."
looks like the modders here on XDA will still have something to work on... but, fingers crossed....
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I think u will get an other reply that will say "unfortunally htc said the update will have sense 1.9"
We can just hope for sense 2.1, we will never get sense 3.0 officially, of course not now already..

HTC seemed to plainly say awhile back that no phone other than dual cores (being Sensation and Evo 3D) will get sense 3.0 going forward....
So I still think the best you can hope for is 2.1

No we will get sense 2.1for sure cause 2 ppl from Netherlands sent an email to HTC and told them that gb will roll out with 2.1
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Lothaen said:
HTC seemed to plainly say awhile back that no phone other than dual cores (being Sensation and Evo 3D) will get sense 3.0 going forward....
So I still think the best you can hope for is 2.1
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I thought that kingdom was single core.. am I right?
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bartoloandre98 said:
No we will get sense 2.1for sure cause 2 ppl from Netherlands sent an email to HTC and told them that gb will roll out with 2.1
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The response depends from the customer care operator..But anyway they don't know the response..Htc didn't provided details on that..
Only the developers/management team that are working on the update know the true and know when it will come out

dexter93 said:
I thought that kingdom was single core.. am I right?
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I suppose you can say the Flyer is single core too - so who knows...
a quick google said that htc took the dual core back and decided it'd be done on a device-by-device basis
http://phandroid.com/2011/04/14/htc-sense-3-0-will-only-support-sensation-evo-3d-flyer-for-now/

If you read the post I made on the other topic, its been confirmed by HTC email I got that HTC desire will get android 2.3 and with sense 2.1 Q2
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ICS coming to HTC Devices!

http://androidcommunity.com/htc-looking-over-ice-cream-sandwich-to-determine-upgrade-plan-20111021/
Since Google unveiled Ice Cream Sandwich earlier this week, HTC has been looking closely at the new OS’s features and functionality to determine our upgrade plans. We’re a recognized industry leader in providing fast and consistent upgrades to our Android devices, and Ice Cream Sandwich will be no different.
Upgrades require a careful balance of hardware and software to ensure the best possible performance and usability, so please stay tuned as we assess our product portfolio. Our goal is to upgrade as many HTC devices as possible and we’ll be sharing details on specific devices and timing in the coming weeks!
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I doubt there will be ICS for Desire but it's still great news as it will be easier to port it for Desire from Device with same resolution etc.

Shocker...

Ye xD had you expected HTC to suddenly abandon android completely?
But yes it's nice with some kind of confirmation for those wanting sense ports, but a timeline would be even more appreciated.
Personally i'm gonna stick with aosp for now.

im not having a go at the op, but i cant understand why someone would post that htc are supporting ics, even if they werent, thanks to the brilliant devs we have for the desire, we'll be getting ics, and we already have an alpha build already.

will8578 said:
im not having a go at the op, but i cant understand why someone would post that htc are supporting ics, even if they werent, thanks to the brilliant devs we have for the desire, we'll be getting ics, and we already have an alpha build already.
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Though the chances of them porting a full sense on top(for those wanting sense) is very slim xD So it's still kinda good news.

I believe one of the main UI features of ICS is that you won't need Sense.

After seeing UI on screenshots I want Sense more than ever.

Terepin said:
After seeing UI on screenshots I want Sense more than ever.
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at least some people want sense on ICS too... I get sad when everyone just moans that sense is rubbish

ICS UI is a joke. Even stock Android ain't consistent across their OWN APPS! That's just fail on so many levels.

sense on the wildfire made me hate sense ui, ofcourse on the desire its amazing, although i fell in lurv with the desire because of miui, which so far at 2 weeks is the longest rom iv had, i used to flash it on friday then few days later would be flashing a new one, oh and TP kutgw as house, very amusing u miserable bleep lol
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Request for Desire

See here: http://www.htc.com/www/help/android4faq/
Who can conatct to HTC to request ICS for Desire ?!

This thread need to move to general.
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dungphp said:
See here: http://www.htc.com/www/help/android4faq/
Who can conatct to HTC to request ICS for Desire ?!
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Huge number of people had already signed a petition on rmd-team.ru, and the petition had been sent.
However, I don't see any point in this - HTC WON'T upgrade Desire anymore. All our hopes to ICS (which are being fulfilled more and more) lie with fellow devs.
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HTC can't release ICS for the Desire because Sense won't fit on the /system partition(they can't go hacking about like our devs can). Google wouldn't even release AOSP ICS for the Nexus One because it lacked space.

About petition:
It's true I sent it.
Their answers:
"Thank you. We have forwarded your message to the appropriate department."
After a few days...
"Unfortunately, this update isn't planned. We apologise."

nathris said:
HTC can't release ICS for the Desire because Sense won't fit on the /system partition(they can't go hacking about like our devs can). Google wouldn't even release AOSP ICS for the Nexus One because it lacked space.
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Exactly. HTC can't update the desire with ics, because all factory roms have to fit a devices internal partitions, which sense ics will never do (hell, they couldn't even do a proper gb release)
Instead of pointlessly hoping for an official release, help and support the devs that are already getting it working. Its the only way ics is ever being developed for the desire.

lenny_kano said:
Exactly. HTC can't update the desire with ics, because all factory roms have to fit a devices internal partitions, which sense ics will never do (hell, they couldn't even do a proper gb release)
Instead of pointlessly hoping for an official release, help and support the devs that are already getting it working. Its the only way ics is ever being developed for the desire.
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I trust shaky with the task.....he has probably already done more then anyone could have hoped when sense 4 was released.... Big thumbs up for him...... He's doing more then HTC....
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This is why devs rule over manufacturers. They can get the job done.

lenny_kano said:
Exactly. HTC can't update the desire with ics, because all factory roms have to fit a devices internal partitions, which sense ics will never do (hell, they couldn't even do a proper gb release)
Instead of pointlessly hoping for an official release, help and support the devs that are already getting it working. Its the only way ics is ever being developed for the desire.
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I don't think a company like HTC is incapable of making an update that could change the hboot and create a ext3/ext4 partition on an sd card and make it posibile to install ics with sense4 on the Desire. The thing is that it wouldn't be beneficial for them concidering that they are after all a company that "makes" devices. If they did that then neighter of us would even concider buying a new device than that would mean bancrupcy for them. The main purpose for any company is selling, wheater it's a real or virtual product and HTC produces phisical products not just the software that completes them.
They said initialy that the Desire isn't capable of running GB never the less a version with Sense on it... after that they said that no mater what it can't run ICS... and in that light how many of us can tell them wrong.
In a final saying, it's just down to the devs like Sandvold or Shaky or any of them on XDA and not to create a rom that shows them that there are other people that have a reputation that is earned through hard work and our endless apreciation and deepest respect.
Sorry for my english as it isn't my main language.
Kind regards.
Pushu.X
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pushu.x said:
I don't think a company like HTC is incapable of making an update that could change the hboot and create a ext3/ext4 partition on an sd card and make it posibile to install ics with sense4 on the Desire. The thing is that it wouldn't be beneficial for them concidering that they are after all a company that "makes" devices. If they did that then neighter of us would even concider buying a new device than that would mean bancrupcy for them. The main purpose for any company is selling, wheater it's a real or virtual product and HTC produces phisical products not just the software that completes them.
They said initialy that the Desire isn't capable of running GB never the less a version with Sense on it... after that they said that no mater what it can't run ICS... and in that light how many of us can tell them wrong.
In a final saying, it's just down to the devs like Sandvold or Shaky or any of them on XDA and not to create a rom that shows them that there are other people that have a reputation that is earned through hard work and our endless apreciation and deepest respect.
Sorry for my english as it isn't my main language.
Kind regards.
Pushu.X
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Why are you taking side of manufacturer ?
We are customers, we paid good money to buy a device which should get updated for a couple of years.........specially Android as it is open source.....
See Linux, Ubuntu, Firefox do they charge for updates......
Heck, take APPLE for example, i heard they still give updates for 3g which was released quite a while ago......
I'm not saying your wrong, but why are you thinking from HTC standpoint? They already have too much profit margins......people will still buy new phones even if old ones get updated.........
For example, you can still run the latest windows and apps on a Pentium4 HT even though ITS STONE AGED......see my point? People haven't stopped buying core i7 due to it.......
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Guys you're forgetting the obvious here. HTC does not have to release ICS on the Desire because it is now older than 2 years from initial shipping. Also there's limitations on hardware such as low internal memory. Do not say SD ext as not everybody will understand the point of sd ext. With froyo the last proper ota ROM do not expect any proper updates in the future. Shaky is working on a 3.0 kernel so expect some major improvements when that is released.
If you really want ICS sell your desire and buy a 2nd hand nexus s.
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Another point is: The least of users would even want to install an official update, because of hardware limitations (too few memory) it could never be an OTA. You all know that, without sd-ext our Desires are nearly unusable. And because of that it would be a download-and-use-at-your-own-risk-thing, as 2.3.3 was. I'd say that the 2.3.3 update was also installed mostly by experienced users, who'd also install a custom rom. So why even release one, if there's plenty of custom roms availible? HTC can use their manpower better. So stop complaining, buy a new phone or use any ICS rom.
BTW, we can call ourselves lucky that the desire even got so many updates. See for example some Motorola phones which are still stuck on 2.1. And that's not because of hardware, but the companies not willing to update. HTC is one of the better, as they still plan to upgrade some of the older devices.

Yasir Javed Ansari said:
Why are you taking side of manufacturer ?
We are customers, we paid good money to buy a device which should get updated for a couple of years.........specially Android as it is open source.....
See Linux, Ubuntu, Firefox do they charge for updates......
Heck, take APPLE for example, i heard they still give updates for 3g which was released quite a while ago......
I'm not saying your wrong, but why are you thinking from HTC standpoint? They already have too much profit margins......people will still buy new phones even if old ones get updated.........
For example, you can still run the latest windows and apps on a Pentium4 HT even though ITS STONE AGED......see my point? People haven't stopped buying core i7 due to it.......
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Never took sides with anyone... because I am in comerce and trade I was just stating a personal opinion on a marketing policy. Besides the fact that I own a HTC product I have no other connection to them... so no need for me to take sides.
And as for linux, firefox, opera and all other "software" developers it makes sense to keep updating because their products only live on others hardware.
Never meant to offend anyone, sorry if I've left that impression.
As for an ICS OTA, even if it were to be released, after using custom ROMs for more than a year now and such a great experience I, personaly, wouldn't go back to stock.
Kind regards.
Pushu.X
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The Everything Jellybean Discussion Thread

Ok folks, I've been seeing a lot of Jellybean threads popping up, soooo to cut down on clutter, I have decided to create this thread.
ALL things Jellybean related belongs here. DO NOT create new Jellybeam threads, please. Any Jellybean thread found outside of here will be deleted without notice.
Your caring, loving, Moderator.
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"If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice"~Rush
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soham_sss said:
Dude, there was already one thread, right?? Anyways, a poll would be helpfull
Thank you
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A poll about what...

PeartFan40 said:
Yes, there were a few Jellybean threads. I created this to prevent others from being created, clogging up the forums. Is there a problem?
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A poll, asking users if they think the one v would get an official update

soham_sss said:
A poll, asking users if they think the one v would get an official update
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because....the point in that?? of course we will get an offical jellybean update

If you guys have Cm9 .. then all you need to do is change some stuff in RAMDISK (IN KERNEL) and copy the App , Framework and media folder ... Cm9 libs *MAY* boot your phone

This is strictly a jellybean dicussion thread only. Please refrain from off-topic discussion. If it's not related to jellybean, it doesn't belong here. Thank you.
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What!! The 'XDA Developers' need not worry!
Why are we worried? Why are we even discussing??!
JellyBean WILL come to every phone!
I think y'all forgot that we are Developers, the XDA Developers !

we are? :thumbdown:
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Paresh Kalinani said:
Why are we worried? Why are we even discussing??!
JellyBean WILL come to every phone!
I think y'all forgot that we are Developers, the XDA Developers !
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well that isnt any help to you is it? since you dont wanna root your phone let alone flash a custom rom.

Jellybean to one s and one xl- News released by Telstra
Look at this news i found:
http://phandroid.com/2012/07/19/htc...ean-update-for-htc-one-s-and-xl-in-australia/

I just hope we got JB soon.Im realy corious whats going to change and i realy want to see this butter smooth thing.
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Yeah. Maybe seems like the One V will get an official update to Jellybean "soon"

I'm going to be the resident Debbie Downer and suggest that HTC might not bother doing a JB upgrade for the HTC One V. On a hardware tier level, it is well behind the One S and One X (Snapdragon S4s or Tegra 3 chipsets, vs the Snapdragon S2 circa late 2010 in the One V).
The good news is that ICS to JB is nothing like GB to ICS. My understanding is that the only major driver change has been to audio (as a result of all the audio upgrades in JB). On my old Defy, they already have working JB builds, camera and all (this is on a device that never received an upgrade beyond Froyo), the only problem being audio. Given we already have ICS compatible libs, an unofficial JB solution will easily follow the first complete CM9 ROM.
So yeah, the JB hope for the One V lies in getting an AOSP ICS build running perfectly. The major challenge I suspect, once CM9 is done, would be getting the audio going in JB. Fingers crossed folks.

I've said it several times that One V will not get JB officially from HTC and everyone started laughing at me... everyone said that this phone is a Mid-Range phone and it will get the update - well, it is a mid range phone but HTC will not bother on working on a build for a phone that has such a low price. They only care about money so to be honest, the economy will work on they're favour. They will not give JB to One V, instead, they give it to One X and S since those phones are now the Elite ones, and after several months or next year when JB will be more mature, they will release new phones, Elite ones + Mid range ones with JB (just like the case with One S, X and V), "forcing" the consumer to buy a phone that has the latest and greatest Android version up to date.

More news from the horses mouth: HTC confirms Jelly Bean for One X, One S and One XL incoming
They obviously don't confirm the One V, but they left the door cracked:
“Please stay tuned for more updates regarding device upgrades, timing and other details about HTC and Jelly Bean” the company told us.
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1ceb0x said:
I've said it several times that One V will not get JB officially from HTC and everyone started laughing at me... everyone said that this phone is a Mid-Range phone and it will get the update - well, it is a mid range phone but HTC will not bother on working on a build for a phone that has such a low price. They only care about money so to be honest, the economy will work on they're favour. They will not give JB to One V, instead, they give it to One X and S since those phones are now the Elite ones, and after several months or next year when JB will be more mature, they will release new phones, Elite ones + Mid range ones with JB (just like the case with One S, X and V), "forcing" the consumer to buy a phone that has the latest and greatest Android version up to date.
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you're still not proved right yet...One v still stands a fair chance that it'll get jb

1ceb0x said:
I've said it several times that One V will not get JB officially from HTC and everyone started laughing at me... everyone said that this phone is a Mid-Range phone and it will get the update - well, it is a mid range phone but HTC will not bother on working on a build for a phone that has such a low price. They only care about money so to be honest, the economy will work on they're favour. They will not give JB to One V, instead, they give it to One X and S since those phones are now the Elite ones, and after several months or next year when JB will be more mature, they will release new phones, Elite ones + Mid range ones with JB (just like the case with One S, X and V), "forcing" the consumer to buy a phone that has the latest and greatest Android version up to date.
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I'm assuming the One V is a loss leader of the One series. If they are taking this mid range phone and selling 10k a month, and only 2k of the new phones, which is going to demand more support and which is going to be more attractive with JB?
Your thinking is only going down one path rather than taking other variables into consideration.

chevymeister said:
I'm assuming the One V is a loss leader of the One series. If they are taking this mid range phone and selling 10k a month, and only 2k of the new phones, which is going to demand more support and which is going to be more attractive with JB?
Your thinking is only going down one path rather than taking other variables into consideration.
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hmmm Not 2K but you've got a point there.
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And, also, Samsung galaxy nexus S has the same spec sheet of Htc one v. Cant see why it wont get Jb, now.

soham_sss said:
hmmm Not 2K but you've got a point there.
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And, also, Samsung galaxy nexus S has the same spec sheet of Htc one v. Cant see why it wont get Jb, now.
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The numbers weren't actual but just examples. The way I view the One V is budget and we know how much people love budget.

soham_sss said:
hmmm Not 2K but you've got a point there.
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And, also, Samsung galaxy nexus S has the same spec sheet of Htc one v. Cant see why it wont get Jb, now.
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Nexus s is a google phone.
It has already gotten official OTA jelly bean update.
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