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Porting HTC ONE V (crazy idea..)

Just saw HTC is announced new phone today, and HTC ONE V (the one looks like HERO) has the similar specs like i8150
3.7 inch 480X800
1ghz single core, 5mp, and running android 4.0
if we got it's camera driver port into i8150....
By the way... I don't about the ports, can someone teach me

Good Luck !

The disgusting thing is that the One V has the same RAM as our W and a slower processor, and anyways it comes with ICS.
CAN YOU HEAR ME SAMSUNG?

banelicious said:
The disgusting thing is that the One V has the same RAM as our W and a slower processor, and anyways it comes with ICS.
CAN YOU HEAR ME SAMSUNG?
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Unfortunately Sammy is DEAFFF to customers who pay out good
hard-earned money for devices.....
they take your money.....
and then say "phuck you" fools!!!!
buy we will have the last laugh.....how many potential future customers have Sammy pissed on now
and what do those customers, including many young ppl, do in future....
I think we all know the answer to that:
PHUCK YOU TOO SAMMY!!!!
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The interesting thing is they DO appear to make the best droids out there and sell more because of it. I'm sickened by their crappy upgrade culture but I wonder if there will be a better high end droid(from a different OEM) when I decide to upgrade?....Just a thought
Sent from my Wonder

Sry for being abit off topic, but the specs on htc one X looks yummy. but for me it all comes down to price and value. And value is the only reason i bought the sgw.
I never really cared about which Android version comes with the phone cuz i knw the awesome ppl here at xda will come up with something.

Hmm... sounds like everyone dissapoint with sammy
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Whoa porting One-V's Sense 4.0 on our Galaxy W is definitely awesome. To date, Sense 4.0 is the best UI on Android while I am now starting to hate Touchwiz. Hope Samsung gets working on the ICS update for our Wonder as Huawei has given the update to the Honor with almost same specs as our SGW. Good luck if your going to port Sense 4.0 on SGW.

hahaha, I wish to port that but i dunno all about porting =(

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me too i'm not a dev but hopefully someone will port once cm9 gets ready.

Don't really understand why it is so difficult to bring an open source OS to a phone. The whole thing is open and visible to the developer, right? What is missing?
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drei4stein said:
Don't really understand why it is so difficult to bring an open source OS to a phone. The whole thing is open and visible to the developer, right? What is missing?
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Maybe, I understand now, the hardware is not open to developer, like a black box looking from outside, right?

Request for Desire

See here: http://www.htc.com/www/help/android4faq/
Who can conatct to HTC to request ICS for Desire ?!

This thread need to move to general.
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dungphp said:
See here: http://www.htc.com/www/help/android4faq/
Who can conatct to HTC to request ICS for Desire ?!
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Huge number of people had already signed a petition on rmd-team.ru, and the petition had been sent.
However, I don't see any point in this - HTC WON'T upgrade Desire anymore. All our hopes to ICS (which are being fulfilled more and more) lie with fellow devs.
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HTC can't release ICS for the Desire because Sense won't fit on the /system partition(they can't go hacking about like our devs can). Google wouldn't even release AOSP ICS for the Nexus One because it lacked space.

About petition:
It's true I sent it.
Their answers:
"Thank you. We have forwarded your message to the appropriate department."
After a few days...
"Unfortunately, this update isn't planned. We apologise."

nathris said:
HTC can't release ICS for the Desire because Sense won't fit on the /system partition(they can't go hacking about like our devs can). Google wouldn't even release AOSP ICS for the Nexus One because it lacked space.
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Exactly. HTC can't update the desire with ics, because all factory roms have to fit a devices internal partitions, which sense ics will never do (hell, they couldn't even do a proper gb release)
Instead of pointlessly hoping for an official release, help and support the devs that are already getting it working. Its the only way ics is ever being developed for the desire.

lenny_kano said:
Exactly. HTC can't update the desire with ics, because all factory roms have to fit a devices internal partitions, which sense ics will never do (hell, they couldn't even do a proper gb release)
Instead of pointlessly hoping for an official release, help and support the devs that are already getting it working. Its the only way ics is ever being developed for the desire.
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I trust shaky with the task.....he has probably already done more then anyone could have hoped when sense 4 was released.... Big thumbs up for him...... He's doing more then HTC....
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This is why devs rule over manufacturers. They can get the job done.

lenny_kano said:
Exactly. HTC can't update the desire with ics, because all factory roms have to fit a devices internal partitions, which sense ics will never do (hell, they couldn't even do a proper gb release)
Instead of pointlessly hoping for an official release, help and support the devs that are already getting it working. Its the only way ics is ever being developed for the desire.
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I don't think a company like HTC is incapable of making an update that could change the hboot and create a ext3/ext4 partition on an sd card and make it posibile to install ics with sense4 on the Desire. The thing is that it wouldn't be beneficial for them concidering that they are after all a company that "makes" devices. If they did that then neighter of us would even concider buying a new device than that would mean bancrupcy for them. The main purpose for any company is selling, wheater it's a real or virtual product and HTC produces phisical products not just the software that completes them.
They said initialy that the Desire isn't capable of running GB never the less a version with Sense on it... after that they said that no mater what it can't run ICS... and in that light how many of us can tell them wrong.
In a final saying, it's just down to the devs like Sandvold or Shaky or any of them on XDA and not to create a rom that shows them that there are other people that have a reputation that is earned through hard work and our endless apreciation and deepest respect.
Sorry for my english as it isn't my main language.
Kind regards.
Pushu.X
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pushu.x said:
I don't think a company like HTC is incapable of making an update that could change the hboot and create a ext3/ext4 partition on an sd card and make it posibile to install ics with sense4 on the Desire. The thing is that it wouldn't be beneficial for them concidering that they are after all a company that "makes" devices. If they did that then neighter of us would even concider buying a new device than that would mean bancrupcy for them. The main purpose for any company is selling, wheater it's a real or virtual product and HTC produces phisical products not just the software that completes them.
They said initialy that the Desire isn't capable of running GB never the less a version with Sense on it... after that they said that no mater what it can't run ICS... and in that light how many of us can tell them wrong.
In a final saying, it's just down to the devs like Sandvold or Shaky or any of them on XDA and not to create a rom that shows them that there are other people that have a reputation that is earned through hard work and our endless apreciation and deepest respect.
Sorry for my english as it isn't my main language.
Kind regards.
Pushu.X
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Why are you taking side of manufacturer ?
We are customers, we paid good money to buy a device which should get updated for a couple of years.........specially Android as it is open source.....
See Linux, Ubuntu, Firefox do they charge for updates......
Heck, take APPLE for example, i heard they still give updates for 3g which was released quite a while ago......
I'm not saying your wrong, but why are you thinking from HTC standpoint? They already have too much profit margins......people will still buy new phones even if old ones get updated.........
For example, you can still run the latest windows and apps on a Pentium4 HT even though ITS STONE AGED......see my point? People haven't stopped buying core i7 due to it.......
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Guys you're forgetting the obvious here. HTC does not have to release ICS on the Desire because it is now older than 2 years from initial shipping. Also there's limitations on hardware such as low internal memory. Do not say SD ext as not everybody will understand the point of sd ext. With froyo the last proper ota ROM do not expect any proper updates in the future. Shaky is working on a 3.0 kernel so expect some major improvements when that is released.
If you really want ICS sell your desire and buy a 2nd hand nexus s.
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Another point is: The least of users would even want to install an official update, because of hardware limitations (too few memory) it could never be an OTA. You all know that, without sd-ext our Desires are nearly unusable. And because of that it would be a download-and-use-at-your-own-risk-thing, as 2.3.3 was. I'd say that the 2.3.3 update was also installed mostly by experienced users, who'd also install a custom rom. So why even release one, if there's plenty of custom roms availible? HTC can use their manpower better. So stop complaining, buy a new phone or use any ICS rom.
BTW, we can call ourselves lucky that the desire even got so many updates. See for example some Motorola phones which are still stuck on 2.1. And that's not because of hardware, but the companies not willing to update. HTC is one of the better, as they still plan to upgrade some of the older devices.

Yasir Javed Ansari said:
Why are you taking side of manufacturer ?
We are customers, we paid good money to buy a device which should get updated for a couple of years.........specially Android as it is open source.....
See Linux, Ubuntu, Firefox do they charge for updates......
Heck, take APPLE for example, i heard they still give updates for 3g which was released quite a while ago......
I'm not saying your wrong, but why are you thinking from HTC standpoint? They already have too much profit margins......people will still buy new phones even if old ones get updated.........
For example, you can still run the latest windows and apps on a Pentium4 HT even though ITS STONE AGED......see my point? People haven't stopped buying core i7 due to it.......
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Never took sides with anyone... because I am in comerce and trade I was just stating a personal opinion on a marketing policy. Besides the fact that I own a HTC product I have no other connection to them... so no need for me to take sides.
And as for linux, firefox, opera and all other "software" developers it makes sense to keep updating because their products only live on others hardware.
Never meant to offend anyone, sorry if I've left that impression.
As for an ICS OTA, even if it were to be released, after using custom ROMs for more than a year now and such a great experience I, personaly, wouldn't go back to stock.
Kind regards.
Pushu.X
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HTC planning to bring Jelly Bean to a selection of phones

HTC planning to bring Jelly Bean to a selection of phones sometime down the line
We’re not the least bit surprised by the statement we’ve just received from HTC regarding upgrades to Android 4.1 Jelly Bean. They’ve expressed their excitement in the upgrade’s arrival and are now evaluating the upgrade to see which phones they will end up pushing them out to.
I think it’s a safe assumption that all the HTC Hero devices will get the upgrade, and a few others might soon have the opportunity to get in on it, as well. But that’s all we know for now: they’re planning on bringing the upgrade to some devices. Let’s hope things come around sooner rather than later.
"We are excited about Android Jelly Bean and are planning to support it across a variety of our devices.* We are reviewing the software to determine our upgrade plans and schedule, so please stay tuned for more updates on specific device upgrade plans."
Taken from here http://phandroid.com/2012/06/28/htc-planning-to-bring-jelly-bean-to-a-selection-of-phones-sometime-down-the-line/

Lol what ALL HTC HERO DEVICES....lol.....OK..
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All i know is that HTCrap will not support our model. That's how market works. They will support only top models and a few other ones and they will also release some new fancy phones running JB.
Forgive me if I'm wrong but we all can guess that JB for One V will not come as an official support...

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All i know is that HTCrap will not support our model. That's how market works. They will support only top models and a few other ones and they will also release some new fancy phones running JB.
Forgive me if I'm wrong but we all can guess that JB for One V will not come as an official support...
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All new HTC phones will come in 2013...
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1ceb0x said:
All i know is that HTCrap will not support our model. That's how market works. They will support only top models and a few other ones and they will also release some new fancy phones running JB.
Forgive me if I'm wrong but we all can guess that JB for One V will not come as an official support...
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seriously?? of course they will support the ONE V officially....the WHOLE one series are the flagship PHONES.

Lloir said:
seriously?? of course they will support the ONE V officially....the WHOLE one series are the flagship PHONES.
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@icebox:
Even Wildfire got 2.1 to 2.2 why not One V...HTC Desire got 2.1,2.2,2.3...
Seriously you think they will neglect us...also they have released the One Series as a brand and if I am not wrong we might just get the update on the same day...
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Das ndawsc
HTC would NEVER Release a device and not updte it to a newer OS. Yes we have had a few minor updates but nothing big only fixes and so on. We will get the JB update. Look at HTC track record. They update ALL devices. I cannot see them releasing a device only to provide (( fixes updates )) they shall release a new build for us soon which in this case will be JB. If you have a diff opinion then thats your right but thats what i think and i would even go about betting cash on it

Well the wildfire s shipped with gingerbread 2.3 and guess what, it never recieved any other version.
So i wouldn't hold my breath, although i hope it comes.

intel007 said:
Well the wildfire s shipped with gingerbread 2.3 and guess what, it never recieved any other version.
So i wouldn't hold my breath, although i hope it comes.
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hey m8,nice to see you here...JB shouldn´t be that big of a deal for them to release,its not a huge version jump...its more like our GB went from 2.3.3 to 2.3.5...so yeah,lets wait and see(fingers crossed)

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Why JB when ICS is not working at all? :(

Hi all
I know that maybe this post will be removed, but until there, I'm wondering why are some of us trying to move on to JB when the current attempts to put ICS working on our Desire aren't yet succeded?
Does it worth?
Thanks to all

I strongly agree with. Not to disrespect the developers but going to point b when point a is not working properly is not a smart thing to do.
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JB is more like a minor release than ICS. Almost all was fixed in ICS rom but camera and h/w acceleration video decoding. This bugs are not easy to fix, they requires new drivers writen from zero and there is no more a 'camera' developer on that. In fact JB for now has the same problems (and few others) but for a month of development is promising better than ICS. We all hope someone will obtain a full working camera/video, but until now this problem remains in both 4.* branch
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carval2k said:
Hi all
I know that maybe this post will be removed, but until there, I'm wondering why are some of us trying to move on to JB when the current attempts to put ICS working on our Desire aren't yet succeded?
Does it worth?
Thanks to all
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Strongly disagree with you or at least with the choice of words. I've been using ICS on my desire since March and don't even look at sense or GB for me everything always worked perfectly so how can you say that it's not working camera, video and everything else is working for me, so have you even tried any ICS rom lately?
And yep JB is minor update but I've put JB on my bros desire and its working almost better than ICS at least the speed of opening apps, do I think developers see more potential working on JB
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On ICS, beside the force-close errors, the GPS not working, issues with Wi-fi/3G and some other minor issues that does not works on this ICS, and works perfectly on CM7.1...
About the choice of words... I'm not english, sorry for that

JB
What do you mean???
If you like to be on the bleeding edge then be here on the xda forums
as JB is the latest bleeding edge thats why Im on pre-Alpha JB and it works grate
No vidoe and no camera, but how uses that anyway :cyclops:

I have to say that i kinda really dont like ICS. But DK, Sandvold and Nikez all have it pretty much as good as its gona get and all can be used as a everyday rom so fair play to them. About JB.. well that is definitly coming on fast, just look at Nikez's work. So my point is why complain? If it was'nt for devs trying to port things to the desire we would all be stuck on a bog standard Desire or all probably baught a new phone by now. Be greatfull for their work and efforts.
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gie62001 said:
Strongly disagree with you or at least with the choice of words. I've been using ICS on my desire since March and don't even look at sense or GB for me everything always worked perfectly so how can you say that it's not working camera, video and everything else is working for me, so have you even tried any ICS rom lately?
And yep JB is minor update but I've put JB on my bros desire and its working almost better than ICS at least the speed of opening apps, do I think developers see more potential working on JB
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Have to disagree with you on this one. JB is a Major update. Hence the Project Butter, I believe this is the only thing iOS got better than Android. so if this will works then we will finally put that bad apple to the ground

I'm not complaining about this amazing work of all devs here! I'm very thankful to all them. I just let my opinion about, in my opinion, good work to do.
Being or not being on the bleeding edge it's not a priority for me. I use technology to help me on my daily work and not just to say that I've this or that gadget. I prefer and in fact I need a fully working device with a older version rather than the latest no working...
About the camera and video, I agree at all... I can't say the same about the GPS and wi-fi/3G swapping/issues... For now I'll be running the best ever made ROM for Desire: CM7.1

bjarkimg said:
as JB is the latest bleeding edge thats why Im on pre-Alpha JB
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And that's why noone with a grain of salt in his head takes your advices for grantedl.

bjarkimg said:
Have to disagree with you on this one. JB is a Major update. Hence the Project Butter, I believe this is the only thing iOS got better than Android. so if this will works then we will finally put that bad apple to the ground
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Well if JB was major update it would not then be 4.1 and would be 5.0 from development point of view and if it was major update Nikez and other devs wouldn't be progressing as fast as they are now.
But if you take project butter then yep it is pretty major change between having laggy UI and smooth UI as they finally figured out how this can be achieved
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jmcclue said:
I have to say that i kinda really dont like ICS. But DK, Sandvold and Nikez all have it pretty much as good as its gona get and all can be used as a everyday rom so fair play to them. About JB.. well that is definitly coming on fast, just look at Nikez's work. So my point is why complain? If it was'nt for devs trying to port things to the desire we would all be stuck on a bog standard Desire or all probably baught a new phone by now. Be greatfull for their work and efforts.
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well for my part I love these posts, then I can get up to 10 posts and start nagging on the developers threads :laugh::laugh:
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gie62001 said:
Well if JB was major update it would not then be 4.1 and would be 5.0 from development point of view and if it was major update Nikez and other devs wouldn't be progressing as fast as they are now.
But if you take project butter then yep it is pretty major change between having laggy UI and smooth UI as they finally figured out how this can be achieved
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Yes agreed, but I think they are just modest
Im just surprised apple did not patent "Smooth UI" or did they maybe
Since they did this cracy patent for internet search result thus making Google Now need to be "not as smart as it could be"...
*Working link
http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-...8,086,604.PN.&OS=PN/8,086,604&RS=PN/8,086,604
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carval2k said:
I'm not complaining about this amazing work of all devs here! I'm very thankful to all them. I just let my opinion about, in my opinion, good work to do.
Being or not being on the bleeding edge it's not a priority for me. I use technology to help me on my daily work and not just to say that I've this or that gadget. I prefer and in fact I need a fully working device with a older version rather than the latest no working...
About the camera and video, I agree at all... I can't say the same about the GPS and wi-fi/3G swapping/issues... For now I'll be running the best ever made ROM for Desire: CM7.1
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Then why not just stick to STOCK ?..

Devs being devs will try and push the boundaries. That's what they do. You can't stop them for doing what they do no matter how pointless it is for you. They are in it for their enjoyment and noobs and instability freaks are just here for the ride.
My Desire is still on Gingerbread and I would probably not try ICS or JB roms on it until it has "Stable" labeled on it at least. (Which probably not gonna happen tbh)
Near stable, pretty stable, almost stable, kinda stable, 90% stable does not equal to "stable"(no matter how many recommendations people here say about a certain rom). That's not going to cut it for me. I don't wanna be in a situation where I suddenly have a bsod, a reboot, signal loss, or system freeze during an emergency situation because I want the bleeding edge in technology installed on my phone.

stankyou said:
Devs being devs will try and push the boundaries. That's what they do. You can't stop them for doing what they do no matter how pointless it is for you. They are in it for their enjoyment and noobs and instability freaks are just here for the ride.
My Desire is still on Gingerbread and I would probably not try ICS or JB roms on it until it has "Stable" labeled on it at least. (Which probably not gonna happen tbh)
Near stable, pretty stable, almost stable, kinda stable, 90% stable does not equal to "stable"(no matter how many recommendations people here say about a certain rom). That's not going to cut it for me. I don't wanna be in a situation where I suddenly have a bsod, a reboot, signal loss, or system freeze during an emergency situation because I want the bleeding edge in technology installed on my phone.
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Honestly, I doubt I could say this any better. I'd troll a bit moar maybe

bjarkimg said:
well for my part I love these posts, then I can get up to 10 posts and start nagging on the developers threads :laugh::laugh:
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Yes agreed, but I think they are just modest
Im just surprised apple did not patent "Smooth UI" or did they maybe
Since they did this cracy patent for internet search result thus making Google Now need to be "not as smart as it could be"...
*Working link
http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-...8,086,604.PN.&OS=PN/8,086,604&RS=PN/8,086,604
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Then why not just stick to STOCK ?..
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Well... Of course I can still run on stock ROM, but... That one is to old, to slow and even to feature less in some things. Being on the edge as it price (mistakes and lots of errors). CM7.1 is much better than stock ROM, and even better if compared with all ICS/JB attempts...
Thanks for the remark

Pretty sure the .1 release JB has over ICS is worth it for the (when working) project butter - ie smoothness from gpu/hwa not just the cpu.

gie62001 said:
Strongly disagree with you or at least with the choice of words. I've been using ICS on my desire since March and don't even look at sense or GB for me everything always worked perfectly so how can you say that it's not working camera, video and everything else is working for me, so have you even tried any ICS rom lately?
And yep JB is minor update but I've put JB on my bros desire and its working almost better than ICS at least the speed of opening apps, do I think developers see more potential working on JB
Sent from my HTC Desire using xda app-developers app
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bjarkimg said:
What do you mean???
If you like to be on the bleeding edge then be here on the xda forums
as JB is the latest bleeding edge thats why Im on pre-Alpha JB and it works grate
No vidoe and no camera, but how uses that anyway :cyclops:
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For all of you flashing with greatness of ICS and JB on Desire, just take a look at General and Q&A sections most problems are with 4.0 branch.
You just have to realize that if you want that fully working don't upgrade your software, upgrade your phone...

nlooooo said:
just take a look at General and Q&A sections most problems are with 4.0 branch.
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I'd ban that. No asking for help using beta software.

nlooooo said:
For all of you flashing with greatness of ICS and JB on Desire, just take a look at General and Q&A sections most problems are with 4.0 branch.
You just have to realize that if you want that fully working don't upgrade your software, upgrade your phone...
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Duh...

erklat said:
I'd ban that. No asking for help using beta software.
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+1.
The right way is to go to the thread and ask for help if you need.
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carval2k said:
Duh...
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You also have to accept the fact that when you loose the official support you loose the most of the thing. I don't wanna say that our developers ain't great, they are, but for most of them it's just something to do in their spare time and they (probably ) have their own private life, they don't live on XDA...

Doesn't seem to be much development for this phone?

Correct me if I'm wrong but there doesn't seem to be much development for this phone, at least not currently. It seems there's only a couple roms that are maintained regularly and then there are a bunch of ports that aren't regularly updated or maintained. Coming from the razr it seemed there were new roms or updates to roms every few days and that was on a locked bootloader. Anyone have some insight to share? I'm just curious is all, nothing against any of the devs. I appreciate any and all work put forward.

fatmando2 said:
Correct me if I'm wrong but there doesn't seem to be much development for this phone, at least not currently. It seems there's only a couple roms that are maintained regularly and then there are a bunch of ports that aren't regularly updated or maintained. Coming from the razr it seemed there were new roms or updates to roms every few days and that was on a locked bootloader. Anyone have some insight to share? I'm just curious is all, nothing against any of the devs. I appreciate any and all work put forward.
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This is a dead end phone kind of..
those who got it, got it cos they were waiting for it for a long time (me)
or it came out when they needed a new phone (most the rest)
The HTC One Maxx IS coming.
that's a fact.
and this phone was not enough to move HTC DNA phone ppl to this phone, DNA has a bigger screen, some won't change just because of that..
also most on DNA are waiting for the HTC One Maxx, personally I don't see how a 6 inch phone will fit in your pocket and is just too much, many ppl are waiting for it and this phone is much to the liking of how the htc inc4 threads went down, which is bad.
this will be better, but because of that one maxx coming, not too many jumped on this bandwagon. and a finger scanner? really?
you have that many OTHER people using your phone you need a finger scanner.. tisk tisk HTC, time to jump on elevate and ask wth they were thinking lmao

andybones said:
This is a dead end phone kind of..
those who got it, got it cos they were waiting for it for a long time (me)
or it came out when they needed a new phone (most the rest)
The HTC One Maxx IS coming.
that's a fact.
and this phone was not enough to move HTC DNA phone ppl to this phone, DNA has a bigger screen, some won't change just because of that..
also most on DNA are waiting for the HTC One Maxx, personally I don't see how a 6 inch phone will fit in your pocket and is just too much, many ppl are waiting for it and this phone is much to the liking of how the htc inc4 threads went down, which is bad.
this will be better, but because of that one maxx coming, not too many jumped on this bandwagon. and a finger scanner? really?
you have that many OTHER people using your phone you need a finger scanner.. tisk tisk HTC, time to jump on elevate and ask wth they were thinking lmao
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Those are some good points, I thought with the popularity of this phone that even on verizon there were bound to be more developers though but maybe not. As far as the maxx goes I'm not much of a fan, it seems they could have put much more thought into it than they did..

fatmando2 said:
Correct me if I'm wrong but there doesn't seem to be much development for this phone, at least not currently. It seems there's only a couple roms that are maintained regularly and then there are a bunch of ports that aren't regularly updated or maintained.
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HTC hasn't even release the kernel sources for this phone yet.
Coming from the razr it seemed there were new roms or updates to roms every few days and that was on a locked bootloader.
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No, there weren't. There were simply people taking stuff from this and that roms, tweaking some settings to their liking and posting the result as a rom.
There are actually only a limited number of original roms, because those take a lot of work to make, and there are teams of people maintaining them. These roms usually support most of the popular devices out there, so you aren't really missing anything. You can find a list of those here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_custom_Android_firmwares
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andybones said:
This is a dead end phone kind of..
those who got it, got it cos they were waiting for it for a long time (me)
or it came out when they needed a new phone (most the rest)
The HTC One Maxx IS coming.
that's a fact.
and this phone was not enough to move HTC DNA phone ppl to this phone, DNA has a bigger screen, some won't change just because of that..
also most on DNA are waiting for the HTC One Maxx, personally I don't see how a 6 inch phone will fit in your pocket and is just too much, many ppl are waiting for it and this phone is much to the liking of how the htc inc4 threads went down, which is bad.
this will be better, but because of that one maxx coming, not too many jumped on this bandwagon. and a finger scanner? really?
you have that many OTHER people using your phone you need a finger scanner.. tisk tisk HTC, time to jump on elevate and ask wth they were thinking lmao
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Well the same can be said of all phones, since there's _always_ going to be a better phone coming right around the corner...

sadboyzz said:
HTC hasn't even release the kernel sources for this phone yet.
No, there weren't. There were simply people taking stuff from this and that roms, tweaking some settings to their liking and posting the result as a rom.
There are actually only a limited number of original roms, because those take a lot of work to make, and there are teams of people maintaining them. These roms usually support most of the popular devices out there, so you aren't really missing anything. You can find a list of those here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_custom_Android_firmwares
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Well the same can be said of all phones, since there's _always_ going to be a better phone coming right around the corner...
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I do agree, but the HTC Inc4 was a special case.
That forum DIED..
even with S-OFF..

Coming from a DNA to the One just because I got the dna to hold me over until I was able to get the One. While not a huge difference, I like the one more.
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I gotta tell you though, I like this hardware. GPS locks almost instanly (S3 was a constant headache, and I had 3 of them) Sound is awesome (I mean, its a phone, but come on!), Heavy metal, attractive. Out of the box the S3 was a slicker UI, but would not stand any physical abuse, and I wear mine on my hip in a Siedio holster. I have this One customized now and it is almost there. Excellent puzzle, keeps me busy.

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HTC hasn't even release the kernel sources for this phone yet.
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Do they always release source eventually? I'm guessing this would lead to development of custom kernels and things of that nature?

I also think xposed framework has eliminated some of the advantages of custom ROMs. Android tweaking and hacking is evolving. SENSE ROM development is growing though, and we have most of the major AOSP ROMs as well.
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fatmando2 said:
Do they always release source eventually?
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Well by distributing the Linux kernel on their phone they are legally compelled by the GPLv2 to make the corresponding source code available. Not even "eventually", but "immediately". Technically however, what the GPL does _not_ dictate is the _venue_ in which they release the source. What that means is that they _aren't_ compelled to put the source code up on the Internet for the public to download. They can choose to just send the source code, by email, cd, or whatever, to those who ask for it, and that would make them in compliance with the GPL. Distributing the source on htcdev.com is just their choice of doing things.
Short answer: yes.
I'm guessing this would lead to development of custom kernels and things of that nature?
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Yes. People have already adapted kernels from other versions of m7 and make them run on the m7vzw. But without HTC's own source as a starting point it's hard to really get a stable kernel.

If you read through the general HTC One development forums it sounds like there are several popular roms waiting on 4.3 to release a VZW version. For instance, ViperOne is for sure coming. Whether they're waiting on 4.3 or not is beyond me, but it is coming.
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I was just wondering that today. But then again i do really enjoy the stock. With root for adblock/teether and no blink feed its almost perfect for me. But, i am keeping my toes crossed anyway!!!
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It is 4.3 that they're waiting for, since all other models have it already. Also, all non-verizon models were 4.1, not 4.2, so we're kind of in Limbo here.

I'm running the Slim ROM for the HTC One, which is superb, and it's 4.3.1.

rddev13 said:
I was just wondering that today. But then again i do really enjoy the stock. With root for adblock/teether and no blink feed its almost perfect for me. But, i am keeping my toes crossed anyway!!!
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Something i don't understand is why people don't like BlinkFeed? I find it very useful.
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Development will increase when 4.3 drops and the 4.2 source code. There are private projects going on for sure that are waiting on either 4.3 or source... and also porting attempts...just haven't been made public yet.
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Just hoping people keep developing, I'll be using it for two more years.

I will say that after a few hours with my new One, huge improvement over the DNA in every way
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brymaster5000 said:
Development will increase when 4.3 drops and the 4.2 source code. There are private projects going on for sure that are waiting on either 4.3 or source... and also porting attempts...just haven't been made public yet.
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This thread question has popped up a few times, including by me. We may get a few more roms, but I agree with Andy that this phone is kind of a "dead end"..
I am just really happy Andy is here and making us a nice rom because w/out him, this would be a sad phone for custom roms.

What sort of "development" are you looking for? Maybe I've fallen out of the flash addiction, but I don't see the need for a bajillion and one ROMS to choose from with a tweak here or there. I'm glad that there is consolidation in feature sets that make only a few necessary. That said, it would be nice to have a Franco-Kernel equivalent and an associated app to easily apply Kernel settings.
Also, although this is my first HTC phone, I think Sense is really good and I actually prefer it (minus blinkfeed, admittedly) to stock android. I'm willing to bet there are others out there who feel that way too.