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Will Desire ever be a modded phone?

Hi,
I am due to trade in my faithful G1 in the next three weeks. The obvious choice financially for a replacement is the Desire.
The best thing about owning the G1 was the wave of development that has followed its release, I have really enjoyed being able to swap ROMs and have the such a wide range of choice to do so.
So, will the Desire ever have this developer base, or has it been eclipsed by the Nexus in this respect? has anyone else thought about this as part of their decision for their next handset?
I know the stock answer is going to be "get a Nexus", but that doesnt makes financial sense at the moment. Maybe I will have to wait until a proper UK release....
Sent from my T-Mobile G1 using the XDA mobile application powered by Tapatalk

I don't see how you might think the Desire won't get a large developer base. Any phone on XDA gets a large developer base IMO and there are are plenty of Android specific forums that can help you mod when the phone has been rooted.
I think you'll be fine to upgrade to the Desire

The desire will be rooted soon and supposedly has interchangeable roms with the N1 anyway.

All sounds reassuring, thanks I probably named this post poorly..I think it was the extent to which attention would be focused I was concerned about. G1 and Nexus seemed to be in the right place at the right time when devs like Cyanogen were getting hold of new handsets and modding them.

Although I hope I am wrong it is by no means certain that the Desire will be "hacked" to accept Custom ROMs. I understand that Paul at Modaco has been able to "root" the Desire but a lot more work is required before Custom ROMs can be loaded.
There is an assumption here that the "Developers" can do anything. It might just not be possible without a "leak" from someone within HTC.
It might be worth waiting a while before purchasing.

or you just buy it and wait for it to be rooted?
why should you wait until it is cuz we all know it will be rooted. its only a matter of time.
and if it cant be rooted we are screwd because all new htc (android) devices will have the same kind of security or even better !!

networkkilla said:
Hi,
I am due to trade in my faithful G1 in the next three weeks. The obvious choice financially for a replacement is the Desire.
The best thing about owning the G1 was the wave of development that has followed its release, I have really enjoyed being able to swap ROMs and have the such a wide range of choice to do so.
So, will the Desire ever have this developer base, or has it been eclipsed by the Nexus in this respect? has anyone else thought about this as part of their decision for their next handset?
I know the stock answer is going to be "get a Nexus", but that doesnt makes financial sense at the moment. Maybe I will have to wait until a proper UK release....
Sent from my T-Mobile G1 using the XDA mobile application powered by Tapatalk
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I am in the same boat as you... I have a G1 and absolutely love the modding and dev community out there, it made my phone 1000x more fun to own . I have been looking at the Desire and there are some great deals out there (price wise) so I am seriously considering getting one. The N1 is too expensive for me atm, plus the N1 hasnt sold as well as Google had hoped... For me I hope the desire will outsell the N1 and hopefully have a large dev support....

[Poll][Community effort]Best way to tell HTC that Desire is lacking updates?!

Hey all!
- So.. we want sense 2.0 right?
- We want Gingerbread right?
- MS Exchange support in Mail client (add account fails..)?
- Maybe a fix for the SMS not sending the sms to the recipient (rare.. but known, see the thread for Desire's bugs)
... I propose we create a common message to HTC asking for updates.
My main reason for this is the same lame answer everyone gets after emailing them for a certain update/fix.
We always get the "we don't know when" or "HTC makes sure you have the latest blah blah blah.."
Let's make a stand and say to HTC we don't want them to be like other companies that don't update "older" models!
Desire's hardware can - surely - withstand Gingerbread + Sense, Sense 2.0 and more..
The specs aren't near old enough not to have the latests features Android has to offer!
So.. with that in mind maybe you could unite our efforts and take a common action..
I'm suggesting the ones in the poll.. have another idea?
Update:
!PANDA as suggested sending the link to this thread to HTC.. so plz leave a reply

Once loads of people have voted, we all e-mail htc with the link to this poll, so they'll actually see this as most of the time they just send us templates.
The same has been done with the 1.24.161.3 vodafone update (just update, no poll used)
That is all. Good Bye.
Sent from my HTC Desire using the XDApp. Pure Madness.

Of course it doesn't hurt to ask them for further support I think it is still to soon to say they won't support us. I think we will get an upgrade to gingerbread, maybe even with sense 2.0 (which I think is the biggest obstacle because the rom is so large otherwise it should run fine( and it does on my phone))
It took them 3 months to port froyo...

tiotempestade said:
Hey all!
- So.. we want sense 2.0 right?
- We want Gingerbread right?
- MS Exchange support in Mail client (add account fails..)?
- Maybe a fix for the SMS not sending the sms to the recipient (rare.. but known, see the thread for Desire's bugs)
... I propose we create a common message to HTC asking for updates.
My main reason for this is the same lame answer everyone gets after emailing them for a certain update/fix.
We always get the "we don't know when" or "HTC makes sure you have the latest blah blah blah.."
Let's make a stand and say to HTC we don't want them to be like other companies that don't update "older" models!
Desire's hardware can - surely - withstand Gingerbread + Sense, Sense 2.0 and more..
The specs aren't near old enough not to have the latests features Android has to offer!
So.. with that in mind maybe you could unite our efforts and take a common action..
I'm suggesting the ones in the poll.. have another idea?
Update:
!PANDA as suggested sending the link to this thread to HTC.. so plz leave a reply
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We already have the first 2 on your list - look through the first 2 pages of the 'Desire Android Development' thread....
My experience is that HTC do whatever HTC want to do. They would much rather have you spend some more $$ on a new device than pour effort into updating/supporting your old one. Now I'm not saying that's how it should be, just saying that's how it is.
That's why this place is so valuable - people spend the time and effort to provide stuff HTC (and others) never intended you to have.
Gotta love XDA Devs
Good luck with your idea tho.

godutch said:
Of course it doesn't hurt to ask them for further support I think it is still to soon to say they won't support us. I think we will get an upgrade to gingerbread, maybe even with sense 2.0 (which I think is the biggest obstacle because the rom is so large otherwise it should run fine( and it does on my phone))
It took them 3 months to port froyo...
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Er..
It is too soon to have gingerbread.. of course it is!
But what about the messaging thing? Has it ever happened to you? It's kinda bothering to send something you wrote to your girlfriend and have it delivered to your boss.. Who knows he might like it or he might sue you for sexual harassment..
JK, but seriously, there's little things that should be fixed.
For example showing the sms you sent as a reply before the sms that originated the reply..
The ms exchange mail thing..
I believe they will take a while to give us 2.3 and we have to understand that Sense is a very good GUI (the best I've experienced so far..) because it is well programmed and tested. So HTC is just "protecting" their image by taking three months to port the new version of Android.
But look for example the case of Sony Ericson saying 2.1 is too good already and future updates shouldn't be expected.. Sure their costumers replied back.. and now they're getting 2.2 on some models.. (We'll see..)
My point here is that by requesting fixes and updates we are showing that we are satisfied costumers and want it to continue that way. So in a month or two, if there's no 2.3 for Desire maybe we can have this thread to show dis contempt..
(And by the way.. Sense 2.0 isn't that big of an obstacle.. it's already working entirely in Desire's NAND.. just have a look at some DHD ROMs ports to Desire in the Development section.. Saying that Sense 2.0 won't fit in Desire's NAND is saying that XDA has better chefs than HTC... lol )

cr1960 said:
We already have the first 2 on your list - look through the first 2 pages of the 'Desire Android Development' thread....
My experience is that HTC do whatever HTC want to do. They would much rather have you spend some more $$ on a new device than pour effort into updating/supporting your old one. Now I'm not saying that's how it should be, just saying that's how it is.
That's why this place is so valuable - people spend the time and effort to provide stuff HTC (and others) never intended you to have.
Gotta love XDA Devs
Good luck with your idea tho.
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Sorry.. forgot to put the 5th option on the poll
"Nahh.. it's good the way it is.."
(not saying it isn't.. )
I meant official updates dummy!!...

tiotempestade said:
Sorry.. forgot to put the 5th option on the poll
"Nahh.. it's good the way it is.."
(not saying it isn't.. )
I meant official updates dummy!!...
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I'm a results focussed kind of guy - official/unofficial who cares just as long as it works

Don't get me wrong, I'm also that focused. But if you end up with a bricked phone it kinda.. no longer works..

I was thinking that the DHD ports has sense running too.... so we just need HTC to allow us to connect to htcsense.com with a DHD port too!
I want the mail app fixed so it works with hotmail eas... surely its a small bug fix...
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

Lothaen said:
I was thinking that the DHD ports has sense running too.... so we just need HTC to allow us to connect to htcsense.com with a DHD port too!
I want the mail app fixed so it works with hotmail eas... surely its a small bug fix...
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
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DHD ports (with Sense 2.0) work in sense.com
It's just not officially available.. But you can try it..
I recommend Alex-V's DHD ROM..

This poll equates to the following:
"Hi BMW,
I bought a 3 series last year with a 2-litre engine and I now see you have a 2.5-litre engine. When can I book in my new engine?"
Bit extreme, I know, but HTC don't have to update the Desire to anything. They're a business and they release new phones with new software. We might get it, we might not

That can be true in car business. But smart phone making is different. And when you buy car you are not only buying finished product but in most cases also 1, 2, 3, 5 year guarantee that include replace car, tow service, help on road if yours car stops obedience. Bmw also has free maintenance for first 100.000km or 5 years. Every business has its rules. And we as buyers of smartphones we set them. So, i ll buy my next phone from company that will offer me at least 2 years of updates. Thats the reason i don’t buy samsung anymore. Hope i don’t need to search for new manufacture. I like htc. But updates are important to me.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

bubigrega said:
That can be true in car business. But smart phone making is different. And when you buy car you are not only buying finished product but in most cases also 1, 2, 3, 5 year guarantee that include replace car, tow service, help on road if yours car stops obedience. Bmw also has free maintenance for first 100.000km or 5 years. Every business has its rules. And we as buyers of smartphones we set them. So, i ll buy my next phone from company that will offer me at least 2 years of updates. Thats the reason i don’t buy samsung anymore. Hope i don’t need to search for new manufacture. I like htc. But updates are important to me.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
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Not just to you. HTC should provide the official updated, and although you can say that we already 'have' them, you shouldn't really have to root the phone to have them. A phone like our Desire ain't cheap, we should at least get HTC's service as well as the product. So far, we've had the product, and in most cases very good product, but the updates arn't here, which sometimes makes Nokia look better: me and other members sent them an e-mail regarding an update with kinetik scrolling etc, it happened withing a couple of weeks! Come on HTC, Nokia knows how to listen to its customers, so if you want us to stay loyal, you have to be loyal to us.
That is all. Good Bye.

tiotempestade said:
DHD ports (with Sense 2.0) work in sense.com
It's just not officially available.. But you can try it..
I recommend Alex-V's DHD ROM..
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don't you need a DHD serial number?
I don't have one

I'm fine with buying a new phone when the updates will no longer go on them.
I flashed my HTC Touch HD with WinMo6.5.3 to make sure it was updated when I found HTC wouldn't push out anymore updates... I'm just waiting for that point when HTC won't push any updates out, or they won't fit on anymore then I'll probably be rooting and flashing...
I purchased my Desire in about July 2010 for around £390 - that's the most I've paid for a phone and I don't intend giving it up just yet...

Lothaen said:
I'm fine with buying a new phone when the updates will no longer go on them.
I flashed my HTC Touch HD with WinMo6.5.3 to make sure it was updated when I found HTC wouldn't push out anymore updates... I'm just waiting for that point when HTC won't push any updates out, or they won't fit on anymore then I'll probably be rooting and flashing...
I purchased my Desire in about July 2010 for around £390 - that's the most I've paid for a phone and I don't intend giving it up just yet...
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However, some people can not afford to buy new phones, just make the most if what they've got, but HTC will not even do that! Okay, Froyo wasn't that bad for the unbranded devices, but why shoul our providers get the updates to brand them?! People who don;t know what branding is etc, will think that HTC is just not as good as other phones, Nokia for example- no barnding, and although there may be some on the case of the phone, no Software Branding. Therefore, updates are pushed a lot quicker!
Back to the point, people like me want to make sure that they get as much as they can for what we pay, and for that reason, I don't think that HTC is as helpful as they can be.
That is al. Good Bye.

Desire / Nexus S
If HTC makes an update ill buy desire if not ill buy Nexus S, maybe........maybe not......ohh i LOVE the htc sense and i want a phone with the sense so i wont buy Nexus S.......Maybe desire z? but it has the keyboard problems and i dont need a keyboard.....ill buy desire (the normal one) and ill flash a cooked rom with 2.3 and the new sense, if possible...

tiotempestade said:
(And by the way.. Sense 2.0 isn't that big of an obstacle.. it's already working entirely in Desire's NAND.. just have a look at some DHD ROMs ports to Desire in the Development section.. Saying that Sense 2.0 won't fit in Desire's NAND is saying that XDA has better chefs than HTC... lol )
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Creating an sd-ext partition is not something average users can be expected to do before upgrading to sense 2.0

godutch said:
Creating an sd-ext partition is not something average users can be expected to do before upgrading to sense 2.0
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Don't underestimate the power of the Dark side, Luke!
It's only a script.. if we lived in an utopia HTC would just release the next OTA with it..
data2sd, app2sd+ script can create the partition and even align it.. http://www.patriotmemory.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3696
Maybe even with reiserFS partitions for faster access, but I think the dev's are getting to the conclusion that not all SDs work well with reiserFS.. so EXT3

[i want updates [

Desire will get gingerbread OTA update :D

hey guys seems like HTC is keeping the spirit up and giving the Desire a gingerbread OTA update by the end of june
not that our devs haven't already got gingerbread on it but like this we will have HTC sense the right way it's supposed to
check one of engadget's latest posts ull see

Ding ding ding.
Number 6, enjoy your short moment of fame.
Remember you have to share it with a increasing group of people who post stuff that has been posed before.

Search for a post next time instead of creating a post that has already been created about 10 times already. Seriously, no wonder why coutts left this forum. Full of idiots.

Yeah, but you could have said this in a much friendly way...

That was nice. No but seriously, I was in a **** mood and seriously, people should read more. Personally, I go through the forums and search to find stuff and I read an awful lot of posts (quite sad to be honest). It just gets on my nerves sometimes.

Been on Oxygen for a few weeks and frankly exchanging Sense for 300MB of onboard (not SD) app space is worth the loss of Sense. Using dialer1 and handcent and a bundle of other neat apps is great. Also have double the battery life that I had either 2.2 Stock Sense

oursoul, why do you insist on posting that very same line/paragraph/sales pitch on every single new thread that is popping up regarding the *ahem* "latest" news of Gingerbread OTA.
Bumping up your post count?

Did you find a replacement to take the "Notes" info from gmail contacts and link them all together which sense does? Thats the only reason in holding on TBH

It`s been official now, I`am reading on some site.

I prefer the Sense Dialer so dont like any of the current stock ROMs, so will wait patiently for the OTA.
Any better similar ones, that has contacts pics and facebook integration?

did anyone hear the leaked android 2.3.2 Galaxy S release?
I'll be disappointed if the Galaxy S gets a gingerbread update before the Desire... HTC will be slipping if that happens!

You know the drill mate.. the update will roll out.. it will be filled with bugs.. rants all over the place about how Sammy manages to make ****ty firmwares and then out of nowhere HTC will pop the update for us making the Desire again the first non developer device that gets the newest Android itteration
Or something along those lines.. I hope..
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

what will be funny is that by time June/July has come and we our 2.3 update, there is no doubt 2.5 (2.6) will have been announced and we'll all want that version instead.
Hopefully we'll atleast get the updated Sense with the update.

if Samsung roll out 2.3.2 then I hope HTC roll out 2.3.3 at least
also I would like them to fix the htc mail client too so it works with hotmail eas...

It's going to be annoying in 2.3 that you can't link Google contacts with Facebook ones, that was one of the things I missed when using Gingerbread ROMS. Looking forward to going back to an official ROM though whenever it's released.

I've been using the DevNull Rom, which is supposed to be a stock Android Rom, since yesterday.
HTC Sense is definitely more user friendly and intuitive....... has a lot more features too.
However, I find it to be quite unstable and kills the battery pretty quickly, and let's not forget the stupid apps like stock and peep.
Coming from HTC Sense, stock Android takes a while to get used to but I'm glad I made the switch 'cause my phone is a lot more stable now and the battery life has improved considerably.

oursoul said:
Nah I was just having a giggle, making a point.
No harm done eh.
I dont need to bump my post count, that's just ridiculous.
Sorry to offend
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a)partition tables are not related to this thread
b)what you are pointing out is just plain ridiculous. There is definitely no point in getting 300mb of internal space when a decent SD card outperforms nand. You can't fit use other roms either which are meant to be used with large caches, and you could brick your device.
Oh, and c) you don't get any of the aosp bugs either
Sent from my HTC Desire using Tapatalk

How many of you think the 2.3 update may bring the latest Sense Along with it.
it is quite possible I think !! but then .. we could get the same one too :\

jackie_jagger said:
How many of you think the 2.3 update may bring the latest Sense Along with it.
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I expect same Sense version, but hope for the newer one

@Erklat: what aosp bugs are you talking about? I'm thinking about flashing oxygen because it is said to be bugfree.
I am almost certain that HTC's Desire gingerbread Rom will use the old sense version. Nandspace is simply too small. HD -ROMs only work because of high use of A2SD and HTC can't use that on official ROMs.
Sent from my HTC Desire

Petition to HTC (Official Android 4.0)

Good afternoon XDA and especially HTC Desire users!
We know that we don't have much chance to get full-working Android 4.0 but the hope dies at last)
So we made a petition, maybe it is a crazy idea, but i hope that HTC Developers will continue our support!
It is a try to get official Android 4.0 WITHOUT HTC SENSE
So there is no harm in trying! Maybe it will work!
Here is the petition:http://rmd-team.ru/?page_id=393
PS Sorry for my English. If you can change something there, because it is wrong, contact me!

Why "crazy idea"?!
N1
I HOPE THIS HELP!

Хорошая идея)!
Goooood idea!

Count me in ..

and me too....

me too guys

I think this is a noble cause, but there are some big problems with it.
1) HTC had tremendous trouble updating the Desire to Gingerbread, due to the small internal memory size. Squeezing ICS with Sense on top into that same limited amount of memory just isn't going to fly.
2) Even if they could, they're not going to make the effort anyway. The Desire may have been HTC's flagship at one point, right now it's just a 2 year old phone that has seen its fair share of updates. Right now, they'll focus on their current flagships - and could you blame them? If we want their official ICS + Sense experience, we'd just have to buy one of their newer phones. Unless they bring that to our old Desires, which is why they're not going to - their main goal is to make money after all.
3) This doesn't belong in development, post it in the General forum.

If so could HTC will stop manufacturing the focus of software development takes. I love HTC!

ZeGuitarist said:
I think this is a noble cause, but there are some big problems with it.
1) HTC had tremendous trouble updating the Desire to Gingerbread, due to the small internal memory size. Squeezing ICS with Sense on top into that same limited amount of memory just isn't going to fly.
2) Even if they could, they're not going to make the effort anyway. The Desire may have been HTC's flagship at one point, right now it's just a 2 year old phone that has seen its fair share of updates. Right now, they'll focus on their current flagships - and could you blame them? If we want their official ICS + Sense experience, we'd just have to buy one of their newer phones. Unless they bring that to our old Desires, which is why they're not going to - their main goal is to make money after all.
3) This doesn't belong in development, post it in the General forum.
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1) I wrote about HTC Sense in this petition. If it is possible to remove it from this rom everything will be perfect
2) if moderators move this theme to general topic, i will agree with them, but it's closely connected with development.

Never hurts to try, but I think this one is in vain.
They would either have to change hboot partition layout or do something else crazy. There just isn't enough space left on a stock hboot at the moment after installing ICS, let alone Sense on top of it.
The reason we can use ICS is because of A2SD setups where we gain additional space. HTC can't expect this from everyone in a rom for consumers.

i suppose you could petition to get source or drivers released so the amazing devs can cook stuff up for us, that would make more Sense, get it sense lolllllllll

MihailPro said:
1) I wrote about HTC Sense in this petition. If it is possible to remove it from this rom everything will be perfect
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Why would they remove their trigger?
This makes no sense. I'm Desire user but I'm with HTC 100% on this.
Sent from my HTC Desire using Tapatalk

As others have said, this will never happen:
1) HTC will not remove Sense from any update - even HTC's new phones with Android 4.0 coming out will still have Sense. As far as HTC is concerned, Sense is what sets them apart from other makers.
2) With Sense, the only way to fit ICS on the Desire would be to change the partition layout. However, no manufacturer will release an update that requires changing the partition layout, for multiple reasons (necessity of unlocking bootloader, warranty invalidation, likelihood of bricking phone, etc)
On the other hand, both Sandvold's and dk_zero_cool's ROMs are pretty much usable as daily drivers. I think we can be pretty happy with how well supported our Desire is by the dev community, and forget about support from HTC (Case in point - Gingerbread: Did anyone actually use the Gingerbread update from HTC? IMO the custom ROMs from this site were all a million times better)

very good idea, it is on that ICS will be well on my desire

Good idea, guys))
Хорошая идея, парни)) Хехе)) Наши)

Im in too cheers

Signed. Hope it helps

kuroneko007 said:
2) With Sense, the only way to fit ICS on the Desire would be to change the partition layout. However, no manufacturer will release an update that requires changing the partition layout, for multiple reasons (necessity of unlocking bootloader, warranty invalidation, likelihood of bricking phone, etc)
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My knowledge on this is limited, but Im fairly sure the partition layout could be changed in an update if they wanted it to be. Correct me if Im wrong, but the partition layout is defined in the HBOOT, and HTC have updated the HBOOT via updates in the past.
That said, I am fairly confident they wouldn't do it for other reasons (it'll wipe the users /data partition, and the Desire is now an old phone that they don't see any reason to update).
Would love HTC to prove me wrong though and release an ICS update (or at the very least, updated drivers & kernel/etc that would make things a lot easier for the devs here)

signed as well
Sent from my HTC Desire using Tapatalk

I hope you all know this is pointless

Desire development is seem to be going dead

Desire development is seem to be going dead..
Doesn't feel good but.. really the development section is slowly going dead...

Captain Obvious to the rescue?
If you decided to have a rant, at least write a few sentences so that we have something to read?
Sent from my HTC Desire using Tapatalk

Yeah... I can see that too. Most "real developer" have moved to other device section. What we have now that still in Desire development is Alex-V (still active) and Coolexe will show up once in a while. Droidzone stops developing ROMs due to job commitment. Well, I'm talking about the real developer for Sense not AOSP and real developer, not modders. Once both Alex-V and Coolexe stop developing for Desire, we can expect a dead end for Desire.

every phone has a shelf life . just wait for ur upgrade and hope that the dev community is as good/helpful as this one

Gotta expect it on a 2 yo device. when you see Runnymede AIO and RSK 6 it's hard to see how much further this thing can be pushed. It's already amazing what's possible compared with what HTC intended for it, but there comes a time...

Its normaly said the device is as good as its developers, but after being part of xda for such a long time i really belive the device is as good as its supporters..! and the more the supporters move towards new devices (Especially alot these days due to the end of 2 year contracts) the lesser is the need for any one to bring something new to the device because not many are interested in using it.
And as far as the developers are concerned alot of the dev's were first supporters who really learned to develop as a process to get something new to their own and everyones devices. Many of them dont take official classes to become dev's it just takes a willing supporter of the device n community to actually give in imp time and learn and try developing.
Buh anyways The HTC DESIRE was a great 2 year run, for its money, hardware and this community..! Thankx to All The Dev's for giving us way more than HTC could ever deliver. The Desire was truely a developer phone.. just hope we see the same support in a future device !

I will probably keep my desire for another 2 years. Here in the UK you get massive reductions in line rental if you do not upgrade with a new handset. Besides that I see nothing on the market that's worth upgrading for.
It's all just gimmicks with software bugs, at least my desire is finally at a stage where everything works as planned. I'm still a stock Rom user and by browsing this forum I can see lots of upgrade potential if I venture into the dark side (go rooted).
I don't know how it works elsewhere but here in the UK the average consumer is pretty clued up on phones and most will search the net for bugs before choosing a phone.
I know quite a few iPhone users who have not upgraded to 4s and have instead opted to stay with their current iPhones and benefit from cheaper line rental.
There is also a recession so that means people are looking to save money. Old desires from the UK get sent to new owners in 3rd world countries. Basically the desire is here for another 2 years easily so it makes sense for developers to stick with it.

ckpv5 said:
Yeah... I can see that too. Most "real developer" have moved to other device section. What we have now that still in Desire development is Alex-V (still active) and Coolexe will show up once in a while. Droidzone stops developing ROMs due to job commitment. Well, I'm talking about the real developer for Sense not AOSP and real developer, not modders. Once both Alex-V and Coolexe stop developing for Desire, we can expect a dead end for Desire.
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Alex v already move to sensation xl..
Maybe you can continue desire development..
Because you help so many people.
And me also learn a lot from you..
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Xda should have a Hall of Fame. First to get crowned the HTC Desire. Any one here from Desires introduction and still has it will know of all the Dev. work done over two tears. I will always hang onto mine too much of a classic to let go.
I also have an Evo 3d (not mine but owner hates it) SGS2 and Nexus One. My Desire is still my daily driver. Some of the best Devs have worked on the Desire and I still check here regularly. So to the Rom Devs, Themers, Modders and Contributors no matter how small the contribution it has been a terrific two years.
If I can single out Madmaxx for the Touch Recovery as the greatest piece of Tech to grace the Desire and Alpharev for S-Off. Just my opinion.

Of course everybody is moving. The HTC Desire is now > two years old. Thats the smartphone lifecycle I think. Dont unterstand me wrong, I absolutely love my desire because its such a reliable phone.

It's long dead. There is very little to no development on it right now. The things you see most on the development section nowadays are merely applied knowledge learned from 'true' development that happened a year or so ago. I see this section going to the legacy devices list pretty soon.

I can't see any problems here. There are loads of stable roms - cyanogen mod, oxygen, even moded or rooted senses, there is no need to spend time on an old device, when it already has reached it's maximum

steveathome said:
Xda should have a Hall of Fame. First to get crowned the HTC Desire.
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The HD2 should be crowned first place, that's the phone that just won't die.

There are plenty of nice Roms in the Desire Section but as with my old phones, HTC Touch HD, HTC HD2 and now HTC Desire they all become old and newer phones come out. That is life. I am getting a new phone myself and looking into what is hot and got the most potential but I will still keep my Desire and hopefully look for new Roms like Sense 3.6 and Sense 4 and 100% working ICS Roms. The new phone will probably have ICS installed or upgraded but I still love Flashing new Roms just for sake of it, isnt that what we all love doing.
One thing for certain, the Desire will go down as one of the most remembered phones.

Desire and g1 best phones ever
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CM 7.2 is coming.
ICS drivers from Qualcomm is also released, let's see if something catches fire soon enough
Also, the desire hardware is kinda limited after 2 years of development.

I've only had my Desire for a year now, and moved to a custom ROM about half a year ago (InsertCoin 2.3.3) once my hunger for apps started giving me storage issues.
Am now on Sandvold ICS and LOVE the UI and HWA speed. Unfortunately, the daily random crashes I'm experiencing mean that a bit more development is needed.
As long as ICS gets stable I'm happy.

The phone is two HTC generations old now, and over 2 years since it was released. I think ICS will be the last Android version to see the Desire.
Still, there is plenty of development going on for ICS in my opinion. A new version of CM9 was just released, Sandvold has his stock version, and a development thread for Sense 4.0 has just opened. There is probably a good 6 months worth of work left.

This was my first android and parting ways with it is going to be hard but yeah we have to move on some time. No new developments rom wise besides the ics and potential ics sense stuff...
I'd say the desire still got some steam left in him
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Kalavere said:
The HD2 should be crowned first place, that's the phone that just won't die.
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Hahaha that's true!!
Never dies
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