i just got response from htc regarding my question will GB update for Desire/Bravo contain Sense 3.0...this is what they sent me:
Thank you for contacting HTC.
In regards to your enquiry, kindly note that the 2.3 gingerbread upgrade has not been released for the Desire phone yet, but it will be relased soon.
kindly note that that the upgrade will include the new HTC Sense 3.0.
Wow! that's really great!
So they are suggesting that the leaked Rom was a very early test build and not close to final.hmm
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I highly doubt this.
If it would contain a Sense upgrade, it would be 2.1, but certainly not 3.0
First of all, the hardware of the Desire isnt capable of running Sense 3.0 without a bunch of hacks (see custom roms) and secondly, it would affect sales on their newer devices.
Also see:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/14/htc-sense-3-0-will-only-support-sensation-evo-3d-flyer-and-new/
If you copied and pasted that message from your email then the sender hasn't spelt the second released properly.
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Lunatic2 said:
I highly doubt this.
If it would contain a Sense upgrade, it would be 2.1, but certainly not 3.0
First of all, the hardware of the Desire isnt capable of running Sense 3.0 without a bunch of hacks (see custom roms) and secondly, it would affect sales on their newer devices.
Also see:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/14/htc-sense-3-0-will-only-support-sensation-evo-3d-flyer-and-new/
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Maybe some bits of sense 3.0 like sense 2.5?
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sergmeister said:
Maybe some bits of sense 3.0 like sense 2.5?
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That might be, yes. But I don't think that they will release a full sense 3 version for desire.... Until then we have our devs (*damo* has released a version from the leaked kingdom ruu)
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i think the best you can hope for is the same as the DHD
maybe it'll be sense 3.0, just optimized for desire...
heraSK said:
maybe it'll be sense 3.0, just optimized for desire...
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I also find this highly unlikely.
Why would HTC want to update what is an end of life device with their latest sense version?
It doesn't make sense (excuse the pun).
From a commercial point of view, if they did that, they would be shooting themselves in the foot, and I don't think they are that stupid.
_thalamus said:
I also find this highly unlikely.
Why would HTC want to update what is an end of life device with their latest sense version?
It doesn't make sense (excuse the pun).
From a commercial point of view, if they did that, they would be shooting themselves in the foot, and I don't think they are that stupid.
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Imo they would be stupid if they do not provide updates. I will never buy a Samsung smartphone again just because of that...
Apple always provides latest updates for their phones and that is a good thing.
_thalamus said:
I also find this highly unlikely.
Why would HTC want to update what is an end of life device with their latest sense version?
It doesn't make sense (excuse the pun).
From a commercial point of view, if they did that, they would be shooting themselves in the foot, and I don't think they are that stupid.
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HTC is anything but stupid. Look at the way they market discriminate their products, adding and subtracting bits and pieces here and there. What they can't do is stop unofficial development, hence the upcoming invite to developers to contribute to making their products more "desirable".
Here's an idea: why pay for r & d when you can get it for free?
i just got another reply from HTC, it looks like they were to hasty with the first answer:
"In regards to your enquiry before, about the HTC sense version 3.0 with the 2.3 gingerbread update for the HTC Desire phone.
I do apologize for contacting you again, but I have just received an update from HTC, that the Desire phone will receive the 2.3 gingerbread upgrade/update soon. However unfortunately, there is no confirmation yet in regards whether the updated Desire phone will have the new sense version 3.0 or not.
I really do apologize for the inconvinience."
looks like the modders here on XDA will still have something to work on... but, fingers crossed....
heraSK said:
i just got another reply from HTC, it looks like they were to hasty with the first answer:
"In regards to your enquiry before, about the HTC sense version 3.0 with the 2.3 gingerbread update for the HTC Desire phone.
I do apologize for contacting you again, but I have just received an update from HTC, that the Desire phone will receive the 2.3 gingerbread upgrade/update soon. However unfortunately, there is no confirmation yet in regards whether the updated Desire phone will have the new sense version 3.0 or not.
I really do apologize for the inconvinience."
looks like the modders here on XDA will still have something to work on... but, fingers crossed....
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I think u will get an other reply that will say "unfortunally htc said the update will have sense 1.9"
We can just hope for sense 2.1, we will never get sense 3.0 officially, of course not now already..
HTC seemed to plainly say awhile back that no phone other than dual cores (being Sensation and Evo 3D) will get sense 3.0 going forward....
So I still think the best you can hope for is 2.1
No we will get sense 2.1for sure cause 2 ppl from Netherlands sent an email to HTC and told them that gb will roll out with 2.1
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Lothaen said:
HTC seemed to plainly say awhile back that no phone other than dual cores (being Sensation and Evo 3D) will get sense 3.0 going forward....
So I still think the best you can hope for is 2.1
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I thought that kingdom was single core.. am I right?
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bartoloandre98 said:
No we will get sense 2.1for sure cause 2 ppl from Netherlands sent an email to HTC and told them that gb will roll out with 2.1
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The response depends from the customer care operator..But anyway they don't know the response..Htc didn't provided details on that..
Only the developers/management team that are working on the update know the true and know when it will come out
dexter93 said:
I thought that kingdom was single core.. am I right?
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I suppose you can say the Flyer is single core too - so who knows...
a quick google said that htc took the dual core back and decided it'd be done on a device-by-device basis
http://phandroid.com/2011/04/14/htc-sense-3-0-will-only-support-sensation-evo-3d-flyer-for-now/
If you read the post I made on the other topic, its been confirmed by HTC email I got that HTC desire will get android 2.3 and with sense 2.1 Q2
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Hello everyone!
I just chatted with someone from HTC [HTC.com]
and i asked him if the 2.3 update for the desire comes with sense 2.1 of 3.0.
He told me it will come with sense 2.1!
If im done with the chat i will post the whole chat here!
chat log:
Customer Chat Chat Transcript
Please wait while we find an agent you are now connected helpen.U Dries.Dries: Hi Nick, thanks for contacting customer support from HTC. Currently I am here to read your question.
Nick: Good morning
Nick: Okay
Dries: What is meant exactly with your question?
Nick: I have a Desire
Nick: but I read some rumors about an update end of May
Nick: but I would like to clarify
Nick: And some say there is in sense or sense 3.0 2.1
Nick: So I thought I take a minute contact
Nick: Because I mean the HTC Wildfire S has the same memory as RAM and ROM which has Sense 2.1, so I thought why would not the normal Desire
Dries: I ask a moment. Please be patient if you please
Nick: Okay I wait
Dries: It comes with Sense 2.1
Nick: Wow I'm really happy!
Nick: And you also know when it comes around?
Dries: Unfortunately I can not say exactly when it will roll out this update, but was soon to begin.
Nick: Okay so before July?
Dries: I can assure you unfortunately.
Nick: Okay, because the earlier leaked test builds gingerbread still had a 1.9 older sense, but I am glad that my desire so with a recent version of sense comes
Dries: I understand that.
Nick: Well I know just enough until now
Nick: Thanks a lot for everything!
Dries: That is welcome. I can today somewhere else help?
Nick: Oh no it is enough
Nick: I wish you a nice day!
Dries: Thank you for contacting, I wish you a nice day.
Make sure they mean our Desire and not Desire HD, and also make sure if the old sense or the 2.1 sense..Just to be sure
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Make sure they mean our Desire and not Desire HD, and also make sure if the old sense or the 2.1 sense..Just to be sure
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just see yourself i think this is quite a deal
EDIT: im going to ask again for confirmation hahaha just to be sure (A), PS: the chatting is so funny lol..
Sorry to say this, but he probably mixed the desire with the desire HD, a regular mixup from HTC customer service rep's.
All indicates that the Desire is getting a modified Sense 1.9 update, with bits from the 2.0 Sense that came with the Desire HD release.
(ref the leaked test rom)
I refuse to jump with joy before I can see this with my own eyes ;-)
fregor said:
Sorry to say this, but he probably mixed the desire with the desire HD, a regular mixup from HTC customer service rep's.
All indicates that the Desire is getting a modified Sense 1.9 update, with bits from the 2.0 Sense that came with the Desire HD release.
(ref the leaked test rom)
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look at the chat... it would be stupid if he thinks a des HD cause the 2.3 update is already out.. so i dont think it will be a desHD
PS: im going to get confirmation to chat again but with someone else so stay tuned!! this time i will be clearer! and i wil post the chat log..
The thing is, the common appearance of the HTC customer service rep's are infact that they are..stupid. (read: missinformed or not informed)
They have a history of mixups and unfortunate statements about software updates and the big pool of HTC models out there. I'll trust my real estater before I trust HTC customer service again
But for your sake, I'll be positive. GO NUTS!
grate news thx
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look at the chat... it would be stupid if he thinks a des HD cause the 2.3 update is already out.. so i dont think it will be a desHD
PS: im going to get confirmation to chat again but with someone else so stay tuned!! this time i will be clearer! and i wil post the chat log..
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perhaps suggest calling it the HTC Desire (BRAVO) ORIGINAL - not the Desire HD - Ace...
and/or make them say which model they are referring to, rather than you saying it
I still don't believe it. Until I see it on my Desire it won't exist
We will see it this month!
waiting for it hopefully.
Well, I tried the htc live chat on my country, and no one is available
Then, I tried with htc uk live chat, and this what happened:
Hi , thank you for contacting HTC Support. How may I help you today?
Customer: hi
Customer: I have an HTC Desire original, codename BRAVO
Customer: I would like to know, which version of htc sense will be implemented in the gingerbread 2.3 update
James: We are excited to announce that the HTC Desire will receive the Gingerbread (Android 2.3) update in Q2 2011. Stay tuned for details as we get closer to the update availability.
James: The HTC Sense Version will not be changed.
Customer: thanks, there is a release date?
James: Not as yet. We do not know.
James: Please stay tuned to our website.
James: All information will be on the support page.
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As usual, they don't know nothing, but he seems about sure that the htc sense will not change on our desire..who know..
andQlimax said:
Well, I tried the htc live chat on my country, and no one is available
Then, I tried with htc uk live chat, and this what happened:
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that is a lie, because in the leaked RUU's the htc sense version HAS changed.
nickislauw said:
that is a lie, because in the leaked RUU's the htc sense version HAS changed.
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Well not, the version is the same, is the old sense..they just add some things of the new sense
But in my opinion, all is possible, as the customer service don't seems to have much details on the update for our desire
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Well not, the version is the same, is the old sense..they just add some things of the new sense
But in my opinion, all is possible, as the customer service don't seems to have much details on the update for our desire
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Well, we will just see it, i mean, thee wildfire S has got the same amount of ROM and LESS RAM then our desire and it got sense 2.1, so why wont they put it on desire?
Just wait till they roll out and hope the best.
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As usual, they don't know nothing, but he seems about sure that the htc sense will not change on our desire..who know..
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they don't know nothing, so they do know something!
I dont really see the point of this as right now the "Sense" scene is all about Sense 3.0 which already has a working beta ROM in existence. Most Sense users are all using either InsertCoin, RCMixS or like me Reflex S which has Sense 2.1 + 3.0 features and most are stable.
When the Sense 3.0 ports are our of beta i bet that even if HTC do officially release this update, no one is really going to care.
The devs here have been rolling out updates faster than you can get used to the new version they just released yesterday.
I chatted today also with HTC and he said that de Update comes in Q2 - THIS MONTH! I asked him "Is this true? or will it be an desaster like the Hero update?" The Said: "No, it comes this month!"
The question of Sense 2.1 he answert with: "Desire will get Sense 2.1 but it can be with an later update! But the chance is big that it comes together"
He said this in german and i translated what he said quick and dirty
3f1f37 said:
I dont really see the point of this as right now the "Sense" scene is all about Sense 3.0 which already has a working beta ROM in existence. Most Sense users are all using either InsertCoin, RCMixS or like me Reflex S which has Sense 2.1 + 3.0 features and most are stable.
When the Sense 3.0 ports are our of beta i bet that even if HTC do officially release this update, no one is really going to care.
The devs here have been rolling out updates faster than you can get used to the new version they just released yesterday.
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The point is that there is probably a big HTC customer base that don't wanna root or flash custom roms. Actually I believe it's bigger than the custom scene. And this is their only hope for an update.
The XDA forum has become a place for any kind of Android fan for info and such, not for just developers and cooks.
fregor said:
The point is that there is probably a big HTC customer base that don't wanna root or flash custom roms. Actually I believe it's bigger than the custom scene. And this is their only hope for an update.
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+1
But who comes to XDA with a stock Desire and just looks at all the custom goodness and decides not to partake.
That's like going to a bar, buying liquor and just looking at it.
Purpose Defeated.
I have a question : In future HTC will build ship rom with sense 3.0 for Dersire HD ? If you have information of Desire HD in next rom , please share . Thanks ALL .
Shouldn't this be in Q&A's.....
Hello.
From what I read everywhere on the net, HTC announced that the 3.0 Sense is not focused on DesireHD, and the reason is that the hardware is not powerful enough to maintain a good use of Sense. Apparently this would be true for single-core phones.
Arma.
It's well known from htc's Facebook page that they said they were looking at what Sense 3.0 features could be implemented into the DHD. Asking when or will the DHD ship with Sense is like asking how long is a piece of string. Most probably in the form of an update if at all.
I personally have more faith in dev's here on xda as they deliver what htc doesn't.
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HTC might official make a DHD specific sense 3.0 based rom but since they are going to release the SDK for sense 3.0 you could expect near perfect rom's from our dev's
HTC is building ships now? Great news!
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pattsy said:
HTC is building ships now? Great news!
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I wonder what kind, small speed boats, yachts, cruise ships, or maybe even navy contracts for battleships, destroyers, etc...
pattsy said:
HTC is building ships now? Great news!
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LMAFO i did'nt notice that
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I wonder what kind, small speed boats, yachts, cruise ships, or maybe even navy contracts for battleships, destroyers, etc...
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I was hopeing for super speed boats... Ill just keep my fingers crossed...
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im hoping for massive starships so we can conquer other planets in the name of HTC!!!
Armrhero said:
Hello.
From what I read everywhere on the net, HTC announced that the 3.0 Sense is not focused on DesireHD, and the reason is that the hardware is not powerful enough to maintain a good use of Sense. Apparently this would be true for single-core phones.
Arma.
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I personally think it's a business decision rather than a technical one. They need to push the sales of new flagship products, so it's very reasonable they add this feature only to newer ones.
As now many Sense 3.0 roms emerge, I don't think DHD is not powerful enough for it.
ywliu
cordell507 said:
im hoping for massive starships so we can conquer other planets in the name of HTC!!!
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and we could name them xdatron, etc hehehe ...let's see how many names we can come up with after xda ..(though i seriously think this is not the place for it heheh)
LOL dersire xand this is obviously in the wrong section....
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Probably not due to the fact they lied to us all and said "our devices will not be powerful enough to run sense 3.0"
which translates into, we are money grabbing bastards please buy a new phone.
i love the fact he spelt desire differently 3 times
Even if they release official sense 3.0 it will be working much better on custom roms + there are already custom roms with sense 3.0 =)
When , when , when , when
... sense 3.0 ...
At the beginning i was amazed of the stock rom of my dhd... Then i realised that there two million ways of getting connected to any not bothering me socialnetwork on the planet, only the one cool thing i wanted to use, was down due to maintenance every time i tried... HTCsensedotcom. I´m now on cm7 and i won`t go back to a sense Rom in the near future. I bet the DHD is powerful enough to run a 3.0 Sense Rom. Even on a simple desire it should run well with some optimisation, but htc doesn´t care that much, like ywliu said it's a business decision. Droping their own sales and spending menpower to optimize cool shiny new features for older devices?... nevermind
Just released
Source: http://www.unwiredview.com/2011/06/...droid-2-3-gingerbread-update-now-rolling-out/
http://www.multiupload.com/EDWCXFPKAL
DO NOT TRY TO FLASH THIS TO YOUR HD2!!!!
Do you maybe mean this is Desire? Not the HD? Because the filename doesnt sound like its the HD (gb s = I dont know so maybe it is HD). If it is HD, I dont think this is any different from what we have now?
If its really desire, then OMG! This would be Christmas in the middle of the year! No more graphic bugs and no more overall lagging/incompleteness. Nice find, I do hope its the desire source!
Thanks
(And 100MB? Thats pretty small for HD I think...for sense even, IDK.)
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Do you maybe mean this is Desire? Not the HD? Because the filename doesnt sound like its the HD (gb s = I dont know so maybe it is HD). If it is HD, I dont think this is any different from what we have now?
If its really desire, then OMG! This would be Christmas in the middle of the year! No more graphic bugs and no more overall lagging/incompleteness. Nice find, I do hope its the desire source!
Thanks
(And 100MB? Thats pretty small for HD I think...for sense even, IDK.)
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Here: http://www.androidcentral.com/android-23-gingerbread-now-available-telus-htc-desire-hd
Desire gingerbread is coming!
The Gingerbread Desire rom is coming very soon!!!
At a dutch site this was announced after an earlier news bulletin which told it was canceled:
original Dutch version:
http://tweakers.net/nieuws/75145/update-htc-desire-begint-volgende-week.html
http://tweakers.net/nieuws/75073/htc-schrapt-beloofde-gingerbread-update-desire-niet-update.html
Translated version:
http://translate.google.nl/translat...5/update-htc-desire-begint-volgende-week.html
http://translate.google.nl/translat...rbread-update-desire-niet-update.html&act=url
I thought it wouldn't be sense 3.0 because htc claims it doesn't perform on the Desire serie including the desire HD.
Also the gingerbread Desire HD has been released for some months ago.
We didn't need the Desire GB rom, we need the kernel source of the Desire Gingerbread kernel to fix the graphics and camcorder problems (imilka post). We have enough Desire HD GB rom's.
Look at http://developer.htc.com/ and wait for a new entry "HTC Desire - GB -2.6.35 kernel source code". When HTC release the Desire update, they have to publish the needed kernel source.
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We didn't need the Desire GB rom, we need the kernel source of the Desire Gingerbread kernel to fix the graphics and camcorder problems (imilka post). We have enough Desire HD GB rom's.
Look at http://developer.htc.com/ and wait for a new entry "HTC Desire - GB -2.6.35 kernel source code". When HTC release the Desire update, they have to publish the needed kernel source.
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HTC originally said they weren't going to give the desire a gb update, but the retracted that post and said they will be doing it soon. Which means the source code will be out soon
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Nixda99 said:
We didn't need the Desire GB rom, we need the kernel source of the Desire Gingerbread kernel to fix the graphics and camcorder problems (imilka post). We have enough Desire HD GB rom's.
Look at http://developer.htc.com/ and wait for a new entry "HTC Desire - GB -2.6.35 kernel source code". When HTC release the Desire update, they have to publish the needed kernel source.
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Guess what, they just released it, at the link you mentioned: HTC Desire HD - GB MR -2.6.35 kernel source code
Magnumutz said:
Guess what, they just released it, at the link you mentioned: HTC Desire HD - GB MR -2.6.35 kernel source code
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But we need HTC Desire 2.6.35 sources, not Desire HD..
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Guess what, they just released it, at the link you mentioned: HTC Desire HD - GB MR -2.6.35 kernel source code
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We need the Desire kernel source, not the Desire HD, the kernel of the HD is out for a long time already...
This thread should not have been posted here, this will bring confusion and noobs will start to flash without reading with a brick as result!
@thisjustin Please remove the link from the first post.
My bad, i was so excited by all this, that i failed
Sorry!
but in the first post it says dont flash to hd2 even noobs can read
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but in the first post it says dont flash to hd2 even noobs can read
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If that was true this thread didnt even exist as this was posted 100 times already
michie said:
If that was true this thread didnt even exist as this was posted 100 times already
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Show me the hundred other times this thread was posted.
Thats what I figured. Dude posted what everyone else keeps thinking we need.
The DESIRE HD IS THE WRONG PHONE! WE DO NOT HAVE A HD PHONE! WHEN THE ORIGINAL DESIRE COMES OUT WITH THE GB UPDATE, WE CAN ALL JUMP FOR JOY!
CLOSE THIS THREAD MODS
so none of the variations of Desire (ie HTC Desire S or Z) would work either?.....jus wondering lol
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so none of the variations of Desire (ie HTC Desire S or Z) would work either?.....jus wondering lol
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No, they have different hardware than our phone. The DESIRE, NOTHING ELSE, just PLAIN old DESIRE will work perfect for our phones. But ANYTHING else, WILL NOT WORK.
They need to sticky this one sentence. Let everyone know that the original desire is what we need. They ARE in progress to release as everyone keeps saying.
Great, now we have even more misinformation... ^^
You should edit your post to say "The Desire source is what we need to get everything working perfectly on our phones. Everything else will work but just not that well. "
Hell, we even got the sensation/kingdom roms ported on the h2d, so I don't see what you remotely mean by "No, they have different hardware than our phone. The DESIRE, NOTHING ELSE, just PLAIN old DESIRE will work perfect for our phones. But ANYTHING else, WILL NOT WORK."
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No, they have different hardware than our phone. The DESIRE, NOTHING ELSE, just PLAIN old DESIRE will work perfect for our phones. But ANYTHING else, WILL NOT WORK.
They need to sticky this one sentence. Let everyone know that the original desire is what we need. They ARE in progress to release as everyone keeps saying.
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What crack are you on?
Yeah Desire is good for porting to HD2 but its by no means the "only" device that will work.
TheATHEiST said:
What crack are you on?
Yeah Desire is good for porting to HD2 but its by no means the "only" device that will work.
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Obviously others work, I am not blind....we are using them.
Im saying
For REAL working files/roms, we need the desire release, I assumed (which I was obviously dumb for) everyone reading it knew I meant the source, what we have ALL been waiting on. Graphical bugs and probably performance issues because of that plus other 'closer' related phone code can be used.
We (the devs - not me) are using patched code/files that are working but will work better once we get the desire release. All I was saying was this is for the desire hd, and we need the desire release. Its known we need that. What the hell do you mean these other work? They do but are not working as WELL as they CAN be. Lets wait for the release then discus. Either way, this should still be close its irrelevant.
EDIT: And YOU didnt even read the thread. If you read who I was reponding to, he knew we were talking about this 'perfecting' our phone with the source, and asked if any other 'source' would work. I responded. Read before accusing next time
e334 said:
Great, now we have even more misinformation... ^^
You should edit your post to say "The Desire source is what we need to get everything working perfectly on our phones. Everything else will work but just not that well. "
Hell, we even got the sensation/kingdom roms ported on the h2d, so I don't see what you remotely mean by "No, they have different hardware than our phone. The DESIRE, NOTHING ELSE, just PLAIN old DESIRE will work perfect for our phones. But ANYTHING else, WILL NOT WORK."
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....wow, then whats the difference with this one???
Lets play the waiting game....figure it out yet? Nothing...
ITS DESIRE HD!!
Ok, lets try again. Go count how many roms are using this DESIRE HD.
Lots.
Now see how many threads have issues, like graphical problems or broken cameras (for 2 definite)
Lots.
So, please let me know where im lost...because these files he seemed to post up (the OP), are what will 'work'...what we already have...awesome. We are all waiting for the functional code, in the...
DESIRE 'source'
Get it? I hope you 'understand' my misinformation
EDIT: And YOU didnt even read the thread either. If you read who I was reponding to, he knew we were talking about this 'perfecting' our phone with the source, and asked if any other 'source' would work. I responded. Read before accusing next time
Hey!
Today, I was doing some surfing, and came across the Sense SDK/HTCdev page on the web. It's already been covered on the forums, however I think that there may be a slight hint there as to what the new Gingerbread ROM on the Desire will include:
http://www.htcdev.com/about/
If you look at the Desire in the greyish box down the page, you will clearly see the Sense UI running in the image is the new version that is found on the Gingerbread Sense devices.
This could be one of two things:
1. A little hint as to the features of the Gingerbread ROM
2. A mistake in the Photoshop department
I'm hoping it's number one, but IMHO I think it will turn out to be number two, what with the leaked HTC Asia ROM having the FroYo Sense UI... but anyhow, let's wait and see!
What do you think?
Thanks!
-Cameron
This seems like a photoshop mistake. They just fit in a screenshot of the Sense UI they got laying around and fit it in a press shot of the HTC Desire.
But.. (there's always a but)
It somehow would make sense that they upgraded the Sense version of the Desire to 2.1 (or something similar). In the leaked Asia builds, you could find some features that were only found on Sense 2.1 + every single phone in the Desire "family" is running 2.1.
Also, remember HTC saying that there wasn't enough internal space on the Desire for Gingerbread + Sense? Yeah well, those leaked Asia updates, they had Sense + GB, didn't they? And as far as I know, that ROM was about the same size as a FroYo stock ROM.
My guess is that they were slowly porting Sense 2.1 to the Desire, feature by feature and at some point, someone said "this is going to slow, we're having more issues than planned, this is going to cost us more money and time than we planned", so naturally, HTC pulled the plug, until the community went nuts and screamed rape and fire. Sooo, they're now settling for a dirty solution: ditch some apps from the system partition, which can be found on the market.
What I can't seem to think of is why they wouldn't stick with the regular Sense that we have right now, mixed with GB. It would've been easier and less time consuming.
This is just a sequence of thoughts that I have concerning this update, don't go believing me or telling me that I'm wrong, I'm just thinking out loud, sharing my perspective
Thanks for that. I'm hoping that you're wrong though, because I'd like to get Sense 2.1 without ports but that's me, greedy as always
HTC doesn't do "porting" as many of the dev's here on XDA do, they got the source code so they only need to compile a Sense 2.1 version for the HTC Desire Which was what I meant with porting.
I'm hoping for a Sense 2.1 update as well, since I like Sense 2.1 far more than Sense 3 (based on what I've seen, tried and read) but I'm not getting my hopes up.. Time will tell ^^
No, by ports I meant that the new Desire update wouldn't be ported, so there would be no incompatibilities. Hope thats what you meant just
Hi, i'm also hope that Desire will get sense 2.1, in Poland we sometimes say that "the hope is the mother of the stupid people" after translation of course but maybe this time it will be different ;p
BTW. Official ROM's are theoretically 100% bugfree, but practically may be different or devs are making better functionality ROM
Regards
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This was discussed weeks ago when the HTC Dev site first came online - I reckon it's a Photoshop personally
pavel54 said:
Hi, i'm also hope that Desire will get sense 2.1, in Poland we sometimes say that "the hope is the mother of the stupid people" after translation of course but maybe this time it will be different ;p
BTW. Official ROM's are theoretically 100% bugfree, but practically may be different or devs are making better functionality ROM
Regards
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But, as all mothers, she loves her children
Doubt it...
Probably justa an original sense with gingerbread... they seem to have problems with speed using sense 3
Bartyzel said:
But, as all mothers, she loves her children
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right /// hehe dokładnie
@flavio.moringa - it's clear that we will not see sense 3.0 because it's reserved for Sensation / more expensive HTC models or newer models as it provides a logical marketing policy
but 2.1 would be a very positive surprise...
See here: http://www.htc.com/www/help/android4faq/
Who can conatct to HTC to request ICS for Desire ?!
This thread need to move to general.
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dungphp said:
See here: http://www.htc.com/www/help/android4faq/
Who can conatct to HTC to request ICS for Desire ?!
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Huge number of people had already signed a petition on rmd-team.ru, and the petition had been sent.
However, I don't see any point in this - HTC WON'T upgrade Desire anymore. All our hopes to ICS (which are being fulfilled more and more) lie with fellow devs.
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HTC can't release ICS for the Desire because Sense won't fit on the /system partition(they can't go hacking about like our devs can). Google wouldn't even release AOSP ICS for the Nexus One because it lacked space.
About petition:
It's true I sent it.
Their answers:
"Thank you. We have forwarded your message to the appropriate department."
After a few days...
"Unfortunately, this update isn't planned. We apologise."
nathris said:
HTC can't release ICS for the Desire because Sense won't fit on the /system partition(they can't go hacking about like our devs can). Google wouldn't even release AOSP ICS for the Nexus One because it lacked space.
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Exactly. HTC can't update the desire with ics, because all factory roms have to fit a devices internal partitions, which sense ics will never do (hell, they couldn't even do a proper gb release)
Instead of pointlessly hoping for an official release, help and support the devs that are already getting it working. Its the only way ics is ever being developed for the desire.
lenny_kano said:
Exactly. HTC can't update the desire with ics, because all factory roms have to fit a devices internal partitions, which sense ics will never do (hell, they couldn't even do a proper gb release)
Instead of pointlessly hoping for an official release, help and support the devs that are already getting it working. Its the only way ics is ever being developed for the desire.
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I trust shaky with the task.....he has probably already done more then anyone could have hoped when sense 4 was released.... Big thumbs up for him...... He's doing more then HTC....
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This is why devs rule over manufacturers. They can get the job done.
lenny_kano said:
Exactly. HTC can't update the desire with ics, because all factory roms have to fit a devices internal partitions, which sense ics will never do (hell, they couldn't even do a proper gb release)
Instead of pointlessly hoping for an official release, help and support the devs that are already getting it working. Its the only way ics is ever being developed for the desire.
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I don't think a company like HTC is incapable of making an update that could change the hboot and create a ext3/ext4 partition on an sd card and make it posibile to install ics with sense4 on the Desire. The thing is that it wouldn't be beneficial for them concidering that they are after all a company that "makes" devices. If they did that then neighter of us would even concider buying a new device than that would mean bancrupcy for them. The main purpose for any company is selling, wheater it's a real or virtual product and HTC produces phisical products not just the software that completes them.
They said initialy that the Desire isn't capable of running GB never the less a version with Sense on it... after that they said that no mater what it can't run ICS... and in that light how many of us can tell them wrong.
In a final saying, it's just down to the devs like Sandvold or Shaky or any of them on XDA and not to create a rom that shows them that there are other people that have a reputation that is earned through hard work and our endless apreciation and deepest respect.
Sorry for my english as it isn't my main language.
Kind regards.
Pushu.X
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pushu.x said:
I don't think a company like HTC is incapable of making an update that could change the hboot and create a ext3/ext4 partition on an sd card and make it posibile to install ics with sense4 on the Desire. The thing is that it wouldn't be beneficial for them concidering that they are after all a company that "makes" devices. If they did that then neighter of us would even concider buying a new device than that would mean bancrupcy for them. The main purpose for any company is selling, wheater it's a real or virtual product and HTC produces phisical products not just the software that completes them.
They said initialy that the Desire isn't capable of running GB never the less a version with Sense on it... after that they said that no mater what it can't run ICS... and in that light how many of us can tell them wrong.
In a final saying, it's just down to the devs like Sandvold or Shaky or any of them on XDA and not to create a rom that shows them that there are other people that have a reputation that is earned through hard work and our endless apreciation and deepest respect.
Sorry for my english as it isn't my main language.
Kind regards.
Pushu.X
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Why are you taking side of manufacturer ?
We are customers, we paid good money to buy a device which should get updated for a couple of years.........specially Android as it is open source.....
See Linux, Ubuntu, Firefox do they charge for updates......
Heck, take APPLE for example, i heard they still give updates for 3g which was released quite a while ago......
I'm not saying your wrong, but why are you thinking from HTC standpoint? They already have too much profit margins......people will still buy new phones even if old ones get updated.........
For example, you can still run the latest windows and apps on a Pentium4 HT even though ITS STONE AGED......see my point? People haven't stopped buying core i7 due to it.......
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Guys you're forgetting the obvious here. HTC does not have to release ICS on the Desire because it is now older than 2 years from initial shipping. Also there's limitations on hardware such as low internal memory. Do not say SD ext as not everybody will understand the point of sd ext. With froyo the last proper ota ROM do not expect any proper updates in the future. Shaky is working on a 3.0 kernel so expect some major improvements when that is released.
If you really want ICS sell your desire and buy a 2nd hand nexus s.
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Another point is: The least of users would even want to install an official update, because of hardware limitations (too few memory) it could never be an OTA. You all know that, without sd-ext our Desires are nearly unusable. And because of that it would be a download-and-use-at-your-own-risk-thing, as 2.3.3 was. I'd say that the 2.3.3 update was also installed mostly by experienced users, who'd also install a custom rom. So why even release one, if there's plenty of custom roms availible? HTC can use their manpower better. So stop complaining, buy a new phone or use any ICS rom.
BTW, we can call ourselves lucky that the desire even got so many updates. See for example some Motorola phones which are still stuck on 2.1. And that's not because of hardware, but the companies not willing to update. HTC is one of the better, as they still plan to upgrade some of the older devices.
Yasir Javed Ansari said:
Why are you taking side of manufacturer ?
We are customers, we paid good money to buy a device which should get updated for a couple of years.........specially Android as it is open source.....
See Linux, Ubuntu, Firefox do they charge for updates......
Heck, take APPLE for example, i heard they still give updates for 3g which was released quite a while ago......
I'm not saying your wrong, but why are you thinking from HTC standpoint? They already have too much profit margins......people will still buy new phones even if old ones get updated.........
For example, you can still run the latest windows and apps on a Pentium4 HT even though ITS STONE AGED......see my point? People haven't stopped buying core i7 due to it.......
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Never took sides with anyone... because I am in comerce and trade I was just stating a personal opinion on a marketing policy. Besides the fact that I own a HTC product I have no other connection to them... so no need for me to take sides.
And as for linux, firefox, opera and all other "software" developers it makes sense to keep updating because their products only live on others hardware.
Never meant to offend anyone, sorry if I've left that impression.
As for an ICS OTA, even if it were to be released, after using custom ROMs for more than a year now and such a great experience I, personaly, wouldn't go back to stock.
Kind regards.
Pushu.X
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