Ok so after the AOKP hard brick debacle, what is the preferred method of Nandroid backup (if any) for ics roms or even just gingerbread roms. I am not messing with rom manager to backup my roms anymore. Someone said rom manager is taboo on this forum lol
Odin/Mobile odin the el26 cwm kernel and backup your setup there. Once done, you can either just reflash the rom or flash a compatible kernel so it will boot.
If you ever want to restore, just odin/mobile the el26 cwm kernel, restore nandroid, then flash compatible kernel so it will boot.
So i can use this method to backup an ics rom? I would be using mobile odin pro. The EL26 kernel.
Yes. And you would also need the kernel for the rom. After you backup or restore you will still have the el26 kernel. So you would need to flash the kernel actually meant for your rom
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Perfect, Thanks for the reply!
Anytime man
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Hey all,
Is there anyway to get a version of cwm that can:
A) backup and restore nandroids on ics safely, ie, backup cm9, and restore a backup of fc15.
B) safely do all of this without bricking.
If not, do you guys think this ice, cwm, and bricking will ever be fixed? Thanks in advance!.
P.s., tired of having to Odin back to el29 to flash new roms from ics...........
Thanks!
mick3444 said:
Hey all,
Is there anyway to get a version of cwm that can:
A) backup and restore nandroids on ics safely, ie, backup cm9, and restore a backup of fc15.
B) safely do all of this without bricking.
If not, do you guys think this ice, cwm, and bricking will ever be fixed? Thanks in advance!.
P.s., tired of having to Odin back to el29 to flash new roms from ics...........
Thanks!
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Yes it will be fixed when they get source code and see just what scamsung changed ...but not yet keep Odin handy if your not a Mason.....
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Thanx, this is the answer I was looking for!
mick3444 said:
Hey all,
Is there anyway to get a version of cwm that can:
A) backup and restore nandroids on ics safely, ie, backup cm9, and restore a backup of fc15.
B) safely do all of this without bricking.
If not, do you guys think this ice, cwm, and bricking will ever be fixed? Thanks in advance!.
P.s., tired of having to Odin back to el29 to flash new roms from ics...........
Thanks!
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I use mobile Odin for replacing stock kernels with repacks then use ROM manager to boot into cwm recovery and flash away. Never wipe data in cwm or use reset as partitions changed. Calks format all
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I know a lot of people are coming from the EVO 3D...
Anyway i have a few question becuase im reading stuff about flashing issues...
I was about to flash a ICS ROM(Paranoid or CM9) and i read that i have to be carefull beacuse if i want to go back Nandroids will not work?
Well how do i make a Nandroid that works? I read that the only way to go back is flashing Stock via Odin(Im i wrong?)
I just finish the rooting process and im ready to install ICS ROM.
In the evo way, only thing i need it to do was nandroid, wipe, install from zip, DONE.
Thanks guys!
rockypr said:
I know a lot of people are coming from the EVO 3D...
Anyway i have a few question becuase im reading stuff about flashing issues...
I was about to flash a ICS ROM(Paranoid or CM9) and i read that i have to be carefull beacuse if i want to go back Nandroids will not work?
Well how do i make a Nandroid that works? I read that the only way to go back is flashing Stock via Odin(Im i wrong?)
I just finish the rooting process and im ready to install ICS ROM.
In the evo way, only thing i need it to do was nandroid, wipe, install from zip, DONE.
Thanks guys!
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Basically make a nandroid with GB recovery the flash ics. If you want to restore Odin GB rom then nandroid restore.
Every rom should have instructions and as long as they are followed you should be safe.
Look up sfhub (I think) and agats custom recovery threads for more info.
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rockypr said:
I know a lot of people are coming from the EVO 3D...
Anyway i have a few question becuase im reading stuff about flashing issues...
I was about to flash a ICS ROM(Paranoid or CM9) and i read that i have to be carefull beacuse if i want to go back Nandroids will not work?
Well how do i make a Nandroid that works? I read that the only way to go back is flashing Stock via Odin(Im i wrong?)
I just finish the rooting process and im ready to install ICS ROM.
In the evo way, only thing i need it to do was nandroid, wipe, install from zip, DONE.
Thanks guys!
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Nandroids are perfectly safe, the only time when they're not safe, is when you make/restore from one on ICS.
The problem with all these ICS leaks, is a bug plaguing the emmc, which I believe that some methods of using ICS recoveries makes it wipe or something. Point is, it causes a brick. Here is the method that I use when flashing ICS, which works for most ICS ROMs, as most ICS ROMs need an EL26/EL29 framework. Pretty sure Paranoidandroid recommends this method, too.
Download these drivers
Download this: OC ODIN File for EL26 and this: E4GT Root Utility
Using Titanium Backup, make a backup of all your stuff, or use your preferred back-upper, just not nandroid. I recommend buying the Pro version, because it will save you so many times, and the dev is great. It's a little expensive though for an app.
OC Odin back to EL26. The good thing about this is, the process is straight forward, and doesn't add to your flash counter, and does not yellow triangle either.
Open up e4gtauto-sfx.exe, option C, then I. This gives you CWM, And just in case, I do not recommend using other than standard CWM to flash ICS roms. but that's me.
When your phone reboots, it should have CWM, and be rooted, just load up the flashing files onto your sd card, load up CWM, do 1 system data wipe, and flash the files in the order they have to be flashed.
Also, really important, DO NOT DIRECTLY RESTORE FROM A NANDROID You will most likely cause a brick if you do.
If you want to go back to GB, you have to Odin back to GB, and THEN you can perform the Nandroid Restore.
F3L1XZS said:
Nandroids are perfectly safe, the only time when they're not safe, is when you make/restore from one on ICS.
The problem with all these ICS leaks, is a bug plaguing the emmc, which I believe that some methods of using ICS recoveries makes it wipe or something. Point is, it causes a brick. Here is the method that I use when flashing ICS, which works for most ICS ROMs, as most ICS ROMs need an EL26/EL29 framework. Pretty sure Paranoidandroid recommends this method, too.
Download these drivers
Download this: OC ODIN File for EL26 and this: E4GT Root Utility
Using Titanium Backup, make a backup of all your stuff, or use your preferred back-upper, just not nandroid. I recommend buying the Pro version, because it will save you so many times, and the dev is great. It's a little expensive though for an app.
OC Odin back to EL26. The good thing about this is, the process is straight forward, and doesn't add to your flash counter, and does not yellow triangle either.
Open up e4gtauto-sfx.exe, option C, then I. This gives you CWM, And just in case, I do not recommend using other than standard CWM to flash ICS roms. but that's me.
When your phone reboots, it should have CWM, and be rooted, just load up the flashing files onto your sd card, load up CWM, do 1 system data wipe, and flash the files in the order they have to be flashed.
Also, really important, DO NOT DIRECTLY RESTORE FROM A NANDROID You will most likely cause a brick if you do.
If you want to go back to GB, you have to Odin back to GB, and THEN you can perform the Nandroid Restore.
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Great info THANKS!!!!...
Also there is no problem to flash that EL26 file? when my stock is el29?
rockypr said:
Great info THANKS!!!!...
Also there is no problem to flash that EL26 file? when my stock is el29?
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For OC ODIN, you don't have to worry about flashing, just plug your phone into the computer once you have the program running, an the drivers, and you'll be fine.
And yeah, you can go back using ODIN.
You just shouldn't use CWM to flash an older version of something if you're on the newer version.
So if install ICS and I want to return to GB the safe thing to do is run Odin back to stock rooted then Nandroid Restore?
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rockypr said:
So if install ICS and I want to return to GB the safe thing to do is run Odin back to stock rooted then Nandroid Restore?
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That is correct.
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I have a TWRP nandroid of AOKP which I would like to restore to. Would it be safe to restore using Agat's custom recovery? Thanks.
I thought agats was cwm. If so you can't.
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Hi all. I'm coming from a HTC Evo so some things on the touch are a little different to me. My question is this: I have noticed that some roms require a specific recovery be used. I am running AGAT recovery now but the rom I am wanting to install requires CWM. If I flash this rom and recovery, how do I get my AGAT backups if needed. Do I just reflash AGAT and use them? Like I said coming from an EVO, I only had one recovery (AMON) for all my needs. Switching back and forth between recoveries and how to do it is new to me.
Thanks,
LJ
CWM backups done in CWM or CWM based recovery should work in any CWM recovery of compatible version. TWRP, being a different case.
This phones recovery is packed in the kernel which you might have found out by now. You can flash kernels in recovery if they have a zip or you can use mobile odin (desktop odin as well) to flash tar's.
You can flash the kernel you used for the backup and then restore the backup if you want. If AGAT's recovery is CWM based (many are) you can flash most roms with it. Thats the entire point of it. But once you flash the rom you will have whatever kernel/recovery that rom has until you flash another one so it will change on you. If your going AOSP (cm9 etc) then stock cwm is of course recommended.
Thanks for the info.
LJ
Recovery restore
How about if I backup using 4EXT and would like to restore using CWM ?? will it be still supported?
yassirazi said:
How about if I backup using 4EXT and would like to restore using CWM ?? will it be still supported?
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There is not 4ext recovery for the epic touch. And no cwm wont restore backups from any other recovery except cwm or a cwm variant
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I recently installed the rom: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2285290
It includes AGAT_Recovery tREC_v0.3.5
I made a nandroid backup with it (it looks and functions identically to CWM). When I flashed back the EL26 ODIN one-click and tried recovery, the system image failed to flash. My question is: if I need to make a restoration with a system image created in AGAT_Recovery tREC_v0.3.5, is that image safe to restore with AGAT_Recovery tREC_v0.3.5?
Thanks for reading!
otacon507 said:
I recently installed the rom: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2285290
It includes AGAT_Recovery tREC_v0.3.5
I made a nandroid backup with it (it looks and functions identically to CWM). When I flashed back the EL26 ODIN one-click and tried recovery, the system image failed to flash. My question is: if I need to make a restoration with a system image created in AGAT_Recovery tREC_v0.3.5, is that image safe to restore with AGAT_Recovery tREC_v0.3.5?
Thanks for reading!
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You must restore using the same kernel that you used to create the backup.
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tdunham said:
You must restore using the same kernel that you used to create the backup.
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OK, so in every case the 'safe' recover is EL26 (Gingerbread). That is a different kernel than my current ROM runs. So basically, what do I need to do to nandroid backup & recover? Like I CWM failed when doing the above. Next time, are you saying that I:
EL26 CWM-->(flash kernel of ROM backup)-->(restore ROM)-->??
otacon507 said:
OK, so in every case the 'safe' recover is EL26 (Gingerbread). That is a different kernel than my current ROM runs. So basically, what do I need to do to nandroid backup & recover? Like I CWM failed when doing the above. Next time, are you saying that I:
EL26 CWM-->(flash kernel of ROM backup)-->(restore ROM)-->??
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Yes, you can flash the Agat kernel from EL26 and then restore the CWM to restore the backup.
The Agat is a safe kernel and fine for backup & restore and flashing mods but many phones have issues with flashing entire roms with it (no need to flash a different kernel unless you are reflashing the rom) so we recommend using the older EL26 CWM or EL29 Directboot kernels just for when you're flashing JB roms. The only time you would need EL26 or EL29 is for flashing a fresh JB rom. This why you see instructions for flashing the Project X rom using EL26 or EL29 Directboot and the same applies to any custom JB rom.
Note: Of course, always follow the special flashing instructions that are provided for any custom rom.
tdunham said:
Yes, you can flash the Agat kernel from EL26 and then restore the CWM to restore the backup.
The Agat is a safe kernel and fine for backup & restore and flashing mods but many phones have issues with flashing entire roms with it (no need to flash a different kernel unless you are reflashing the rom) so we recommend using the older EL26 CWM or EL29 Directboot kernels just for when you're flashing JB roms. The only time you would need EL26 or EL29 is for flashing a fresh JB rom. This why you see instructions for flashing the Project X rom using EL26 or EL29 Directboot and the same applies to any custom JB rom.
Note: Of course, always follow the special flashing instructions that are provided for any custom rom.
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So the basic procedure in this case would be (from Agat Kernel CFW) --> flash EL26 cwm --> Flash CFW kernel --> restore CFW
Am I understanding you correctly?
Not sure why the extra step there.
You created the backup with Agat, you have to use it to restore it too.
If that's what you said, then yeah go for it.
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My only concern was with the the fact that the rom is indeed JB based. Thanks for the help
tdunham said:
Not sure why the extra step there.
You created the backup with Agat, you have to use it to restore it too.
If that's what you said, then yeah go for it.
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