Hi all. I'm coming from a HTC Evo so some things on the touch are a little different to me. My question is this: I have noticed that some roms require a specific recovery be used. I am running AGAT recovery now but the rom I am wanting to install requires CWM. If I flash this rom and recovery, how do I get my AGAT backups if needed. Do I just reflash AGAT and use them? Like I said coming from an EVO, I only had one recovery (AMON) for all my needs. Switching back and forth between recoveries and how to do it is new to me.
Thanks,
LJ
CWM backups done in CWM or CWM based recovery should work in any CWM recovery of compatible version. TWRP, being a different case.
This phones recovery is packed in the kernel which you might have found out by now. You can flash kernels in recovery if they have a zip or you can use mobile odin (desktop odin as well) to flash tar's.
You can flash the kernel you used for the backup and then restore the backup if you want. If AGAT's recovery is CWM based (many are) you can flash most roms with it. Thats the entire point of it. But once you flash the rom you will have whatever kernel/recovery that rom has until you flash another one so it will change on you. If your going AOSP (cm9 etc) then stock cwm is of course recommended.
Thanks for the info.
LJ
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How about if I backup using 4EXT and would like to restore using CWM ?? will it be still supported?
yassirazi said:
How about if I backup using 4EXT and would like to restore using CWM ?? will it be still supported?
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There is not 4ext recovery for the epic touch. And no cwm wont restore backups from any other recovery except cwm or a cwm variant
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title says it all can i restore a backup that i made with CWM recovery using the team rogue CWM recovery
yes as it is still cwm. if it was different versions like say cwm 4 then no. but all of our recoveries now I believe use the same. so yes. restore away.
ok cool thanks
no problem man. happy flashing!
Ok so after the AOKP hard brick debacle, what is the preferred method of Nandroid backup (if any) for ics roms or even just gingerbread roms. I am not messing with rom manager to backup my roms anymore. Someone said rom manager is taboo on this forum lol
Odin/Mobile odin the el26 cwm kernel and backup your setup there. Once done, you can either just reflash the rom or flash a compatible kernel so it will boot.
If you ever want to restore, just odin/mobile the el26 cwm kernel, restore nandroid, then flash compatible kernel so it will boot.
So i can use this method to backup an ics rom? I would be using mobile odin pro. The EL26 kernel.
Yes. And you would also need the kernel for the rom. After you backup or restore you will still have the el26 kernel. So you would need to flash the kernel actually meant for your rom
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Perfect, Thanks for the reply!
Anytime man
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I've CWM 6.0.2.3 installed.But i think it needs some kind of improvement.To select an option, we need to double touch that option.One for selecting and second for confirmation.This is because there would be less chance u select any other option rather that u want.Example is PhilZ recovery is the best recovery i used on my GNote..
Also, i want to know that which recovery (CWM or TWRP) is the best recovery for Gnex ?I heard TWRP is best alternative for CWM.
Thirdly, I used to restore my call logs and sms through Titanium Backup from CWM backup earlier.But the CWM backup format has now been changed.Instead of creating "backup" folder, contents are now saved in several folders called "blobs".So m left with no option to restore sms from newer CWM backup.
Any solutions or ideas??
CWM 6.0.2.3 reverted back to the old TAR format so doesn't use blobs any more unless you tell it to
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CWM 6.0.2.3 reverted back to the old TAR format so doesn't use blobs any more unless you tell it to
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what about TWRP recovery?and have u used PhilZ recovery?did u noticed any change?
I am rather new at all things android development but keeping that in mind I have easily backed up, wiped, flashed, installed, and restored no problem using twrp. Tremendously simple to download, install, and use with no hiccups along the way
I would check some videos out on twrp you might find it useful in your decision making on which recovery to use
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I am rather new at all things android development but keeping that in mind I have easily backed up, wiped, flashed, installed, and restored no problem using twrp. Tremendously simple to download, install, and use with no hiccups along the way
I would check some videos out on twrp you might find it useful in your decision making on which recovery to use
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ya..ur rite..i haven't used twrp till now but i heard its better than cwm..so m surely gonna give it a try
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what about TWRP recovery?and have u used PhilZ recovery?did u noticed any change?
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TWRP - I don't like it personally, I always use CWM. PhilZ? Never heard of it...
EddyOS said:
TWRP - I don't like it personally, I always use CWM. PhilZ? Never heard of it...
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philZ made modified CWM recovery for devices like S2 and GNote..
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philZ made modified CWM recovery for devices like S2 and GNote..
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As far that I know of PhilZ only makes recovery for Exynos-based device, like the original Note, there's no PhilZ for the Gnex. TWRP has all the thing that you've said earlier (And IMHO, more user friendly), but backups aren't interchangeable between the two. So you'll have to get rid of those blobs.
I recently installed the rom: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2285290
It includes AGAT_Recovery tREC_v0.3.5
I made a nandroid backup with it (it looks and functions identically to CWM). When I flashed back the EL26 ODIN one-click and tried recovery, the system image failed to flash. My question is: if I need to make a restoration with a system image created in AGAT_Recovery tREC_v0.3.5, is that image safe to restore with AGAT_Recovery tREC_v0.3.5?
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I recently installed the rom: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2285290
It includes AGAT_Recovery tREC_v0.3.5
I made a nandroid backup with it (it looks and functions identically to CWM). When I flashed back the EL26 ODIN one-click and tried recovery, the system image failed to flash. My question is: if I need to make a restoration with a system image created in AGAT_Recovery tREC_v0.3.5, is that image safe to restore with AGAT_Recovery tREC_v0.3.5?
Thanks for reading!
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You must restore using the same kernel that you used to create the backup.
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tdunham said:
You must restore using the same kernel that you used to create the backup.
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OK, so in every case the 'safe' recover is EL26 (Gingerbread). That is a different kernel than my current ROM runs. So basically, what do I need to do to nandroid backup & recover? Like I CWM failed when doing the above. Next time, are you saying that I:
EL26 CWM-->(flash kernel of ROM backup)-->(restore ROM)-->??
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OK, so in every case the 'safe' recover is EL26 (Gingerbread). That is a different kernel than my current ROM runs. So basically, what do I need to do to nandroid backup & recover? Like I CWM failed when doing the above. Next time, are you saying that I:
EL26 CWM-->(flash kernel of ROM backup)-->(restore ROM)-->??
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Yes, you can flash the Agat kernel from EL26 and then restore the CWM to restore the backup.
The Agat is a safe kernel and fine for backup & restore and flashing mods but many phones have issues with flashing entire roms with it (no need to flash a different kernel unless you are reflashing the rom) so we recommend using the older EL26 CWM or EL29 Directboot kernels just for when you're flashing JB roms. The only time you would need EL26 or EL29 is for flashing a fresh JB rom. This why you see instructions for flashing the Project X rom using EL26 or EL29 Directboot and the same applies to any custom JB rom.
Note: Of course, always follow the special flashing instructions that are provided for any custom rom.
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Yes, you can flash the Agat kernel from EL26 and then restore the CWM to restore the backup.
The Agat is a safe kernel and fine for backup & restore and flashing mods but many phones have issues with flashing entire roms with it (no need to flash a different kernel unless you are reflashing the rom) so we recommend using the older EL26 CWM or EL29 Directboot kernels just for when you're flashing JB roms. The only time you would need EL26 or EL29 is for flashing a fresh JB rom. This why you see instructions for flashing the Project X rom using EL26 or EL29 Directboot and the same applies to any custom JB rom.
Note: Of course, always follow the special flashing instructions that are provided for any custom rom.
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So the basic procedure in this case would be (from Agat Kernel CFW) --> flash EL26 cwm --> Flash CFW kernel --> restore CFW
Am I understanding you correctly?
Not sure why the extra step there.
You created the backup with Agat, you have to use it to restore it too.
If that's what you said, then yeah go for it.
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My only concern was with the the fact that the rom is indeed JB based. Thanks for the help
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Not sure why the extra step there.
You created the backup with Agat, you have to use it to restore it too.
If that's what you said, then yeah go for it.
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Guys,
I rooted GS3 using CFroot and Odin, SuperSU is running. I have i747m Rogers canadian version. How do I backup the current ROM?
I downloaded 'stock' ROM from SamMobile I747MVLUFNF2 for backup purpose. There is so many posts and videos everywhere on how to do backup of current ROM and I am very confused, and dont want to mess this phone up. I downloaded ROM Manager but when I boot into recover mode I dont have option to backup ROM, only restore from SD, reset, restore from flash, wipe cache , there is no backup option. I pulled the battery out and tried many times it did not see backup ROM option.
This is what I want to do, what is the best aproach ?
1. How to backup current Rooted ROM to sdcard, so I can recover if required. ROM Manager I have on the phone is v5.5.3.7. I watched video on galaxys3root.com but he used 9300 GS3 from different carrier.
2. I want to try a new ROM give the phone new life, with all functions working including front camera. WHich ROM do you recommend for my phone?
I also installed ROM Manager, Titanium Backup, Terminal Emulator, Nandroid Manager, and BusyBox. Not sure if I need these apps, but they are there.
Can someone point me in the right direction?
Thanks,
Install the latest version of Philz Touch or TWRP for the d2lte, boot into recovery, create a backup and save it to your external SD card and computer.
Thank you.
audit13 said:
Install the latest version of Philz Touch or TWRP for the d2lte, boot into recovery, create a backup and save it to your external SD card and computer.
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Thanks! Philz Rocks, it is exactly what I was looking for !
I loaded Philz Touch 6.48 for d2lte, and it worked great. Did full backup and I am ready to flash.
DO I NEED to keep ROM Manager for anything ?
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Thanks! Philz Rocks, it is exactly what I was looking for !
I loaded Philz Touch 6.48 for d2lte, and it worked great. Did full backup and I am ready to flash.
DO I NEED to keep ROM Manager for anything ?
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I don't use ROM manager. I just flash a custom ROM and a quick reboot app which gives me the option to boot into download mode, power off, reboot system, or reboot into recovery.
Thanks.
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I don't use ROM manager. I just flash a custom ROM and a quick reboot app which gives me the option to boot into download mode, power off, reboot system, or reboot into recovery.
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Hi audit13,
1. how do I copy backup from SD to computer. These are hidden on SD card and not visible even to Android? Is there a trick to it?
2. Which ROM do you recommend for Galaxy S3 i747m (original Rogers now unlocked), so all the functions work well and stable on the phone? I was interested in CM11 Nightly.
This is ALL new to me, first time doing it.
Thanks again for you answers,
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Hi audit13,
1. how do I copy backup from SD to computer. These are hidden on SD card and not visible even to Android? Is there a trick to it?
This is ALL new to me, first time doing it.
Thanks again for you answers,
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Both CWM and TWRP recoveries create a directory in /sdcard named either clockworkmod or TWRP and store the backups in a subdirectory. It is likely that PHILZ does the same. There may even be an option to store the backup to the external sdcard at the time of creation.
TWRP stores the backup in a folder called \TWRP\Backups\serial#ofphone\name of folder.
I'm not sure about CWM as I don't have a phone with CWM at the moment.
I run the Liquidsmooth milestone on a Nexus4 and Moto G because I love the dark theme.
I have a device on TWRP and another on CWM, I just didn't bother with the full path because he is on PHILZ, as you recommended, and I could not check that path.
Philz Touch to TWRP recovery migration.
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I have a device on TWRP and another on CWM, I just didn't bother with the full path because he is on PHILZ, as you recommended, and I could not check that path.
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Thanks to you guys, I have successfully converted GS3 stock Samsung 4.4.3 GS3 (rogers unlocked) to Philz Touch with CM11 rom, works great on Bell (Virgin) network.
But I have a question;
I would like to try TWRP If I want to switch from Philz to TWRP recovery instead, how much is involved to make a switch? Which recovery is more popular and better supported?
Is it as simple as flashing in Odin proper twrp .tar file for my d2lte?
Thanks.
If there is a flash able zip for twrp, you can boot into philz and flash it.
Any backups made with philz cannot be restored with twrp.
I tried twrp and switched to philz due to issues I had flashing custom roms with twrp.
I don't have my i747m because I have it to a relative in May so support has probably improved with newer versions of twrp.
Philz Touch to TWRP recovery migration.
I flashed TWRP over Philz Touch using Odin. I am going to wait until newer CM11 nightly comes out to test it, but Philz seems more intuitive to me. I can always flash back to restore backups I made with Philz Touch.
Thanks.