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How do you order your soft buttons?

How do you order your soft buttons and which ones do you include. I started off modeling the Nexus S buttons and moved to the these three shortly there after.
Home long-press gives me the recent menu.
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Back - Home - Search - Menu
Little awkward coming from the Thunderbolt (Which had home in the first slot) but I feel like this works best.
Oh and of course long pressing home brings up recents.

I have played with this order too. I want to get on board with google and stay away from menu.
What bothered me was when I pushed it, on some apps menu would appear at the top. Leaving me to wonder why I just didn't push the in app menu.
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Live2Follow said:
I have played with this order too. I want to get on board with google and stay away from menu.
What bothered me was when I pushed it, on some apps menu would appear at the top. Leaving me to wonder why I just didn't push the in app menu.
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Hopefully I am not too off topic saying it pisses me off that sometimes the menu is located up top and sometimes down low. wtf? This needs to be standardized and quick.

WiredPirate said:
Hopefully I am not too off topic saying it pisses me off that sometimes the menu is located up top and sometimes down low. wtf? This needs to be standardized and quick.
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Thus you will always have people modding it to the navigation bar. It is (In my eyes) going to be too in consistent and power users will want a centralized location to always have it available.

I've played with a few different softkey orders (and played with adding the big menu button back), but I keep coming back to the stock arrangement. I guess I'm just boring.

Back-Menu-Home-Task-Search

Ive played around with ordering and I keep coming back to the stock setup.
Back / Home / Recents
*Although I do have the menu buttons show up on both sides*
I had it originally set up so that a long press on home showed recents, but the small delay of waiting for the recent apps was quite annoying. It's the little things that bother me apparently lol

Back | Home | Search | Recent

Back-Home-Menu

Back|Big Menu|Search|Home
I hold home for recent apps.
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Interesting differences. I just can't decide what's best for me. All options seems interesting.
In terms of standardization. We will have to see if new phones opt for on screen or off screen buttons.
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back - home - search
I have long press home for recents and long press search for voice command and 3 dot legacy menu on both sides. I find this layout the most efficient and aesthetically pleasing.
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back, home, search, multitask
I really hope someone finds a way to implement an app drawer button opens up the app drawer and overlays ontop of whatever youre doing

I used to have menu(hidden)-back-home-task-search-menu(hidden) but I recently moved to back-home(long press for tasks)-search-menu(hidden)
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Back - search - recent- home
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Menu - Back | Home | Search | Recent - Menu

This is how I have mine.

Menu - Task - Home - Back - Search - Menu
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[Q] 3 dots ('Menu' button) - VERY ANNOYING - Could someone fix that?

Hey guys,
I received my Htc One X today.
It's great and all, I love it, but one thing that really annoys me is the menu button (3 dots) which is placed on the screen and resizes the screen (basically makes the screen smaller) on many games and apps, also, it's almost always visible in almost every app/game - very annoying.
I'd suggest if someone could fix that button, like.. remove the button completely from the screen and let apps use the full HD mode, like they're supposed to - and use a hardware button such as volume up/down (if pressed for like 3 seconds) for it.
That would be great and it would really improve the software, I think HTC messed that one up.
A picture to show those buttons:
blog.notebooksbilliger.de/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/vellamoquer.jpg
And they're always there, always on that side (if not build into the app - which it isn't in most cases), and very annoying when gaming.
What do you think?
Thanks in advance if any pro programmer is going to fix this!

That's not an HTC feature the 3 dots are ICS

The button appears when an app isn't optimized for ICS.
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Oh ok. Thanks for the replies.

Maybe, modifying /system/usr/keylayout/qwerty.kl to change that hardware key to MENU from APP_SWITCH will do the trick.
Or, something like this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=21501238
However, my One X is still not here, so can't try that.

yup some apps are still not following ICS guidelines atm
i was really surprised that even the XDA app is not even optimized for ICS, what the ...
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The best possible Solution would be long press Task manager to open Menu. But even after that it would be probably necessary to disable the menu bar from poping up.

myself11 said:
The best possible Solution would be long press Task manager to open Menu. But even after that it would be probably necessary to disable the menu bar from poping up.
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Re-map task manager to the menu button, and use long press for task manager.
I don't think one can make too much use of the task manager anyways.

Rycon33 said:
yup some apps are still not following ICS guidelines atm
i was really surprised that even the XDA app is not even optimized for ICS, what the ...
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I'm not very surprised; the XDA app is sadly pretty mediocre. Most annoying thing is that it insists on showing only thumbnails of images, with no way to see the full image unless you open the thread in your web browser (and even if you do so, it won't take you right to the post you were reading; it'll start you at the top of that page of the thread and make you scroll.)

eeeeeee said:
Re-map task manager to the menu button, and use long press for task manager.
I don't think one can make too much use of the task manager anyways.
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I absolutely agree. Would be nice if someone could do that and remove the digital menu button / let apps use the full screen.

knoxploration said:
I'm not very surprised; the XDA app is sadly pretty mediocre. Most annoying thing is that it insists on showing only thumbnails of images, with no way to see the full image unless you open the thread in your web browser (and even if you do so, it won't take you right to the post you were reading; it'll start you at the top of that page of the thread and make you scroll.)
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very true indeed, even on their premium version, their handling of images is a pain

Incidentally, everybody complaining about the menu button would do well to consider that on many phones, you *never* get that real-estate back, because *all* of the buttons are on that bar. The way HTC has done it, if the app is properly coded you get to use the full screen real estate, and you're not wasting battery power on backlighting a bar that's always unavailable to the apps, and always black.

When I've used ICS on my HTC Dz, the button isn't there, so it is definitely possible to instruct ICS not to use the button, if a hardware button is available.
I am pretty sure that it's possible to cook into the ROM.

qpop said:
When I've used ICS on my HTC Dz, the button isn't there, so it is definitely possible to instruct ICS not to use the button, if a hardware button is available.
I am pretty sure that it's possible to cook into the ROM.
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Yeah, but as you said, your DZ has a hardware menu button. But it's probably possible to use the multitask button as a menu button and keep the multitask menu that way is has been - you open it by long pressing home.

det66 said:
That's not an HTC feature the 3 dots are ICS
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Well I am running ICS on my nexus one and something has been done to that rom in order to not show the three dots, as it has a hardware menu button there is no need for the software one, and whatever they have done prevents it from displaying it so hopefully it could be done here

Well I tweeted the following to Paul O'brien :
@PaulOBrien How realistic for ROM dev to remap hw multitask button on one x into menu button w/longpress for m/task + get rid of ugly 3 dots
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And got this reply:
@qpopbadop already on it.
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^^^ that's great news
yes, once permanent root is achieved, modders here will find a way on optimizing our One X

Yay! Can't wait. Didn't think that many people would agree

Rycon33 said:
^^^ that's great news
yes, once permanent root is achieved, modders here will find a way on optimizing our One X
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Permanent root has already been achieved; and S-Off achieved by HTCDev route. It'll likely be as good as it gets for a while at least.

knoxploration said:
I'm not very surprised; the XDA app is sadly pretty mediocre. Most annoying thing is that it insists on showing only thumbnails of images, with no way to see the full image unless you open the thread in your web browser (and even if you do so, it won't take you right to the post you were reading; it'll start you at the top of that page of the thread and make you scroll.)
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The free version does
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What do u think about the virtual keys?

Does anyone miss the soft keys?
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I like the virtual keys as they change sides when I rotate the phone around. Plus they disappear when you don't need them.

I much prefer the virtual keys. It gives the front of the phone a sleeker look, it gives less areas for dust/dirt to get into the phone (vs physical keys), and I like that they can disappear when unneeded for some extra screen real estate.

I agree. Sometimes the old softkeys wouldn't turn off while I'm watching videos even after I had them timed to turn off. Plus we get a bit more screen space. And the phone looks differently from every other android that has the softkeys. I haven't seen other phones sporting the virtual keys. Why would that be?
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Coming from an HTC Incredible, I LOVE the change, I like how they rotate based on orientation, and disappear when not needed/wanted. The part I love the most is the fact that you can customize them with specific ROMs (or apps) so you aren't stuck with keys you may never use (like the search key...).

Another nice thing about the software keys is they always, always have the same exact sensitivity as the rest of the touchscreen. On my Epic they were less sensitive. My back key especially was even less sensitive.
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Honest questions, what's to miss about the soft keys? There's nothing they can do that the virtual keys don't do just as well or better.

pfmiller said:
Honest questions, what's to miss about the soft keys? There's nothing they can do that the virtual keys don't do just as well or better.
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How about this, when ur old android won't boot down /turn off properly u realize something is wrong because youre experiencing a lag aka hang. The screen looks like its off but u know it is not completely powered down because the softkeys are still on. Which results in having to pull the battery out. That's not exactly a benefit of having softkeys compared to virtual keys, but do u understand what I mean?
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Virtual keys FTW!

I couldn't imagine going back to actual buttons. Its not only astetically pleasing, but extremely functional as well.
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Virtual are much better also because you can remove them totally and use other input methods.

Love them...
A. Reduces the bezel, less bezel = more screen
B. Looks much cleaner when the phone is off... love that the gnex is totally black when off
C. Can customize the buttons with custom roms... i don't ever use the Android Search and Recent/Task buttons but I use Menu religiously. I like that I can get rid of the buttons i dont use and add ones that I do and also change the ordering and size of them... customization is the whole point of Android IMHO

norazi said:
Love them...
A. Reduces the bezel, less bezel = more screen
B. Looks much cleaner when the phone is off... love that the gnex is totally black when off
C. Can customize the buttons with custom roms... i don't ever use the Android Search and Recent/Task buttons but I use Menu religiously. I like that I can get rid of the buttons i dont use and add ones that I do and also change the ordering and size of them... customization is the whole point of Android IMHO
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Google managed to keep that stark black screen with the Nexus S.
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the keys are ok but personally i prefer my phone in full screen and LMT

Liskrig said:
Coming from an HTC Incredible, I LOVE the change, I like how they rotate based on orientation, and disappear when not needed/wanted. The part I love the most is the fact that you can customize them with specific ROMs (or apps) so you aren't stuck with keys you may never use (like the search key...).
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I'm also coming from the DInc.
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Anyhow, I am very happy with them. I always had the backlight turned off on the capacitive buttons on my previous phone as the backlight was way too bright, so the difference is minuscule.

[Q} Flashlight via Hard Buttons?

Does anyone know if there is a patch or app or mod that will allow the use of the Flashlight torch via the volume or home buttons on the phone. For example I would like to be able to turn the flashlight on by clicking the volume up and down at the same time or double tapping the home button. Some how turn the light on without having to unlock the phone and navigate to a widget.

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I've used an older app on another handset called "button remapper". It literally does just that, but I'm not sure if it'll knock out the buttons original function all together or just allow both functions to run depending on the current state of use you're in.
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Skynote rom has it built in, long press the home key on the lockscreen turns on the flashlight.

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Does anyone know if there is a patch or app or mod that will allow the use of the Flashlight torch via the volume or home buttons on the phone. For example I would like to be able to turn the flashlight on by clicking the volume up and down at the same time or double tapping the home button. Some how turn the light on without having to unlock the phone and navigate to a widget.
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Carbon rom 1.8 has this feature built in ....g
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9wire said:
Skynote rom has it built in, long press the home key on the lockscreen turns on the flashlight.
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Yes, so does slim.
I've got it set as home long press for torch and back long press to screen off.
T0LTE : DEVIL : SLIM

And BTW...
stock TW rom and cleanrom variants have this feature too..
Basically every rom we use around here has the option....g
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Thanks everyone for your responses.
I've heard that other ROM's had this feature, I was just wondering if there was a way to install the feature manually apart from a ROM as I'm currently running the Jedi X17 ROM and it does not have this feature.
I will have to check out button remapper.
Thanks again guys!

jim256 said:
Thanks everyone for your responses.
I've heard that other ROM's had this feature, I was just wondering if there was a way to install the feature manually apart from a ROM as I'm currently running the Jedi X17 ROM and it does not have this feature.
I will have to check out button remapper.
Thanks again guys!
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Since you want to stay with the Rom of your choice. You just need to install xposed framework, then all you need is the Tweak Box module. And your good to go!
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The above sounded like a great fix, but it shows that I must be running Android 4.2/4.3.
Any ideas for how to remap the buttons on 4.1.2? I'd like to be able to do a long home button press on the lock screen for the torch and a double tap when unlocked for Google Voice Search rather than SVoice.

jim256 said:
The above sounded like a great fix, but it shows that I must be running Android 4.2/4.3.
Any ideas for how to remap the buttons on 4.1.2? I'd like to be able to do a long home button press on the lock screen for the torch and a double tap when unlocked for Google Voice Search rather than SVoice.
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I'm running a bunch of xposed framework mods on my Skynote Rom. And it's 4.1.2... so not sure where you read that. But it should work with your device! Make a back up of what you have now. Then try it out see if it helps you problem.
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[Q] Help me disable the menu & search button.

My D710 is driving me insane with the phantom menu button. Its so bad my search button has been going off at random too. This of course only happens when I am sending text messages, or receiving them. Which makes it extremely frustrating.
I know there's ways to disable these buttons. I do not have my phone rooted, and would rather not root it right now. I am still fighting sprint to replacing it with a different brand, but they insist on repairing it over and over again. If I root it, that will just give them ammo to deny my claims.
Is there anyway to disable the buttons on a bone stock GB27 setup?? Thanks in advance.

If you hold down the menu key. Search will pop up. So your search key is fine. The menu phantom press triggers a "hold" on the menu key at time thus, search pops up. There's a thread someone in the general forum that "fixes" the problem with the menu key.
EDIT: Unfortunately, the file to remap the keys are at system level, so rooting is the only way. You can temporary root, however.
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HighxVoltage said:
If you hold down the menu key. Search will pop up. So your search key is fine. The menu phantom press triggers a "hold" on the menu key at time thus, search pops up. There's a thread someone in the general forum that "fixes" the problem with the menu key.
EDIT: Unfortunately, the file to remap the keys are at system level, so rooting is the only way. You can temporary root, however.
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No, if i hold my menu button down... nothing happens. But if i hit the search bar, search pops up.
I am having phantom menu & search buttons. My phone has a mind of its own whenever data is being transfered over the network. My daughters D710 does not act nearly as bad as mine does. Her's does phantom menu every now and then, but mine phantom menu & phantom searches EVERY SINGLE TIME. Unless i am at the sprint store of course.
Anyhow, I understand now that its not possible without root. When you say temporary root, does that mean just root, do the mod & then return to stock? Or is there some other method of temporary rooting?

Hmm.. On stock the way the keys are for me are the way I explained.
Anyway. When finishing running the exploit, you reboot, once the phone is booted, you'll have root. Once you finish editing the file, reboot. Once booted, root is gone. There's an app called frama-root for our device that let's you temp root if I remember correctly.
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Here is a tutorial on how to disable your key so you can use pie control and LMT. @graydiggy put it together and it works great, but you'll have to send it back to Sprint and have them replace the pba(mother board) to fix the issue completely. Be sure to thank him if it works for you! Happy Thanksgiving
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2201012
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jdsingle76 said:
Here is a tutorial on how to disable your key so you can use pie control and LMT. @graydiggy put it together and it works great, but you'll have to send it back to Sprint and have them replace the pba(mother board) to fix the issue completely. Be sure to thank him if it works for you! Happy Thanksgiving
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2201012
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I sent my phone to Samsung twice for warranty repairs. They replaced the screen first, then when I sent it back they replaced the PBA. The problem never got any better, so I took it to my local sprint store where the tech was well aware of the issue. He replaced my screen (again) and it seems like the problem has gotten worse.
I will take a look at the tutorial you linked and see if i can make this work. Does that tutorial require me to root my device?

Yup, you'll need to be rooted.
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Great, so I followed the guide and Disabled the softkeys, then enabled the Navbar. Seems like that took care of it, so far I have had 0 phantom keypresses.
I hate giving up screen space for the navbar. Especially when only the Menu button is at fault. Is there anyway to disable JUST the menu button, and leave the Home, back & search keys?
Thanks again for the help guys.

This method is for the power button, but I'm sure you could remap the menu button too-http://androidforums.com/showthread.php?t=796092
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Okay so today I flashed this ROM to my phone: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1889349
I went to get rid of the hardware buttons... but the modified generic.kl file did not disable the hardware keys like it did with the stock rom.
Any ideas why and how I can get the mod to work with the MIUI rom??

Xposed additions allows remapping of hardware keys
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Xposed additions allows remapping of hardware keys
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I fixed the problem by replacing the phone.
I got a LG G2. I will never get another Samsung phone.