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All the different versions of the Play, and it's availability across the globe is making things very confusing for me to figure out. Can someone please give me some straight answers to the following questions? (And, yes, I -did- try to read the threads, but I'm not getting it.)
First, my relevant stats:
Wireless Provider: Verizon
Location: US
Phone: Xperia Play
Model: R800x
Network type: CDMA
Bootloader: Locked
Rooted: Yes
Custom Recovery: CWM installed to the \System
Questions:
1. If I have my bootloader unlocked, what ROMS will work properly with the US Verizon network?
2. Again, assuming the above, which kernel(s) should be used?
3. Once more, assuming the above, how is the functionality of the Gamepad affected? (Obviously, it needs to work to make any sense of having the phone unlocked and loading a Custom ROM.)
Maybe I'm making this harder than it needs to be. But, it seems to me that the R800x is such a different beast from all the other models of the Play that it would almost make sense to have its own sub-forum.
Please note my prior Android experience has been with the LG Ally and the LG Vortex. No bootloaders, no multiple models with different rules based on the country of origin, just straight-forward simple configurations. The rules were simple: Root, install Custom Recovery, make a Nandroid, install your choice of Custom ROMs and enjoy. So you can see why this environment is so perplexing to me.
Thank you in advance for clarifying my options. I'm sure with all the knowledgeable folks here, I'll soon be rocking a new configuration.
Bumpage
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the title of the rom will say cdma in it if the rom/kernel work on the r800x
as far as functionality goes the stock roms aka not cm7 or ics they work perfect, cm7 is hit and miss with the game pad some games work some dont (i think most work though.) as far as ics its not made for our phone might never be.
Thanks for that info. Just want to make sure it's worth doing.
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bladestonez said:
the title of the rom will say cdma in it if the rom/kernel work on the r800x
as far as functionality goes the stock roms aka not cm7 or ics they work perfect, cm7 is hit and miss with the game pad some games work some dont (i think most work though.) as far as ics its not made for our phone might never be.
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uh Ics is for our phone try looking in Xda thread in android development for Xperia Play plAy
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bladestonez said:
the title of the rom will say cdma in it if the rom/kernel work on the r800x
as far as functionality goes the stock roms aka not cm7 or ics they work perfect, cm7 is hit and miss with the game pad some games work some dont (i think most work though.) as far as ics its not made for our phone might never be.
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How misinformed are you buddy?
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He means the R800x. Verizon may not give us ICS. We're still stuck on 2.3.3.
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Not for R800x which is CDMA. See why it's so confusing?
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yeah my bad.. didn't read it properly
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First thing, sorry for not searching but I'm going to br busy over the coming week or two with school and tests so please, I would be very grateful.
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What are the main things I should know about the Xperia Play?
(In terms of Rooting and Bootloader Unlocking etc)
I'm coming from an Xperia 8 and I'm not a n00b at Android hacking so I can take a lot in.
Also, is there any bug in the Play that I should know about? I'm hoping that by the time I get mine (2 weeks) it will. Come shipped with ICS.
If not, I can use PCC ....right?
Thanks guys,
Really looking forward to joining the R800i community.
Anything guys?
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Go with it! :beer:
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It probably won't come with ICS. However, if you unlock your bootloader (free using Sony's official method if you have an R800i) we have an official ICS beta from Sony. It's perfectly stable for everyday use. There are also a few roms based on it.
We can't flash kernels from recovery so get used to using fastboot. It's actually pretty simple.
Be aware that the gamepad doesn't work properly in non-stock based roms - CM7 for example. Sony's stock rom is actually quite good anyway once you've de-bloated.
Other than that it's just another Android phone really
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It probably won't come with ICS. However, if you unlock your bootloader (free using Sony's official method if you have an R800i) we have an official ICS beta from Sony. It's perfectly stable for everyday use. There are also a few roms based on it.
We can't flash kernels from recovery so get used to using fastboot. It's actually pretty simple.
Be aware that the gamepad doesn't work properly in non-stock based roms - CM7 for example. Sony's stock rom is actually quite good anyway once you've de-bloated.
Other than that it's just another Android phone really
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Thanks for your reply
Yea, don't worry. I'm used to flashing kernels and backups in Flashtool from my X8 , so fast boot shouldn't be too hard, but I'll have have to learn more about it as we don't have that over on the X8....
Also, its a bit of a bummer that the game pad doesn't work on custom ROMs :/
But just as a matter of interest, does the game pad work on the ICS Beta and can the game pad or
down arrow be used for scrolling on web pages?
And I'm also very surprised that Sony have given access to a Boot loader Unlocking tool!
Anyway, thank you very much for your reply.
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not sure about the other questions although you can use the down/up button on the gamepad to scroll through pages
IrishStuff09 said:
Thanks for your reply
Yea, don't worry. I'm used to flashing kernels and backups in Flashtool from my X8 , so fast boot shouldn't be too hard, but I'll have have to learn more about it as we don't have that over on the X8....
Also, its a bit of a bummer that the game pad doesn't work on custom ROMs :/
But just as a matter of interest, does the game pad work on the ICS Beta and can the game pad or
down arrow be used for scrolling on web pages?
And I'm also very surprised that Sony have given access to a Boot loader Unlocking tool!
Anyway, thank you very much for your reply.
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Gamepad works fine on the official beta, although some games don't perform as well as they do in GB.
Yes, D-pad can be used for scrolling web pages
If I were you I'd flash the Sony beta ICS with the Sony kernel. Unless you like games, then I'd flash the latest Gingerbread ROM. Emulators (especially PSXperia) work better with GB.
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MilkyJoePD said:
If I were you I'd flash the Sony beta ICS with the Sony kernel. Unless you like games, then I'd flash the latest Gingerbread ROM. Emulators (especially PSXperia) work better with GB.
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Ah, OK thanks
And if I happen to get an R800i model, where can I unlock its bootlader, as MicaelBH said Sony have a free unlocking tool.
Also, I'm hoping that the Xperia Play can be rooted in flash tool..right?
Again, I really appreciate your answers.
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IrishStuff09 said:
Ah, OK thanks
And if I happen to get an R800i model, where can I unlock its bootlader, as MicaelBH said Sony have a free unlocking tool.
Also, I'm hoping that the Xperia Play can be rooted in flash tool..right?
Again, I really appreciate your answers.
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It's right here http://unlockbootloader.sonymobile.com/
Thanks xRegrets.
Got my Play today, will be setting it up tomorrow.
Glad to be with you guys! I'm not a freaking ''troller'' so don't worry
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My warning to you: the slider ribbon cable tends to break easily. Don't fiddle with the slider and only open it when you're actually playing games.
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At the moment I cant unlock my bootloader, so Im wondering if there is a ICS Rom that works with the normal kernel. Im on the most recent NA 2.3.4 firmware for the R800a if that makes a difference and I have the Xperia Play 4G (R800at).
Thanks guys.
No
I didn't think so but I saw someone say something like that in the general subforum. Thanks.
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Nope. But on the plus side, the official ICS update from Sony is imminent.
Bacondroid said:
Nope. But on the plus side, the official ICS update from Sony is imminent.
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Not as imminent as you might have been led to believe.
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The only ICS roms we have right now require an unlocked bootloader. They alone aren't worth unlocking it IMO.
Might as well just wait for the official update.
Unlocking the bootloader is still a good idea in general, but if the only rom you wanna try is stock ICS, and not any custom ones, don't bother.
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I heard the ICS++ work with a locked bootloader...but i dont think its true
If you like the design of ICS then use a rom that is ICS themed...at least a little
MacCoremag said:
I heard the ICS++ work with a locked bootloader...but i dont think its true
If you like the design of ICS then use a rom that is ICS themed...at least a little
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It's impossible that it could work locked, since you need to flash an ICS kernel with fastboot.
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So I was just wondering if there is finally a free way to unlock my R800x bootloader yet? I don't mind paying for the service to be done but my hubby is not very tech savvy and he don't want me to pay some stranger to do it for me! No offense to the one's who does this! I really want to download custom ROMs and get my phone running the way I want and know it can! I would like to try the ICS test ROM just to see how it runs on my device! I used to have a HTC Hero that I rooted and flashed ROMs like crazy! I kinda got addicted to it! Now I am having Flash withdraws! Here's to hoping a free method is available!!!!
Not for the R800x.
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Ok thanks! Just checking!
I just got an Xperia Play (Verizon) and to my surprise it was rooted already.
Gingerbread 2.3.2
Baseband: 7X30A-AAABQMAZM-1290_10-01
Kernel: 2.6.21.9-perf
Build Number: 3.0.E.2.89
Should I get a Gingerbread rom? ICS rom? Leave it on stock? I plan to use this phone for gaming, music, and web browsing (and using the former more than the latter), so I'm looking for the solution with the best gaming performance. Not going to be used as a phone at all. Also, is 7-8gb enough for games? I have about 22gb of music than I want to put on the Play once I get around to getting a 32gb micro sd card.
Unlock your phone. It costs $25 but so worth it. I unlocked mine a couple days ago.
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DubleJayJ said:
Unlock your phone. It costs $25 but so worth it. I unlocked mine a couple days ago.
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What do you mean by unlock? Like unlock to use for other carriers? I'm not using it as a phone cause I don't need to. I only bought it for gaming, since I'm selling my Droid X to a friend.
isoDUB said:
What do you mean by unlock? Like unlock to use for other carriers? I'm not using it as a phone cause I don't need to. I only bought it for gaming, since I'm selling my Droid X to a friend.
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no you need to unlock the bootloader to flash custom kernels which are needed for custom ROMs
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fma965 said:
no you need to unlock the bootloader to flash custom kernels which are needed for custom ROMs
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Oh really? You have anywhere I can read up on this stuff? And how can I check if it's unlocked?
How viable do you think stock is just for gaming and music?
isoDUB said:
Oh really? You have anywhere I can read up on this stuff? And how can I check if it's unlocked?
How viable do you think stock is just for gaming and music?
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please use search
stock based roms are the best for gaming you can flash roms like true ancestor and Gin2JellyBean Without a unlocked bootloader as they can use stock kernel
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fma965 said:
please use search
stock based roms are the best for gaming you can flash roms like true ancestor and Gin2JellyBean Without a unlocked bootloader as they can use stock kernel
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Sorry about not using search.
Basically, what you're saying is stock based roms like the ones you listed will be able to be flashed by CWM or whatever method the R800x uses, and other roms like CM9 will brick me right?
I'll try reading through the stickies or other topics right now.
isoDUB said:
Sorry about not using search.
Basically, what you're saying is stock based roms like the ones you listed will be able to be flashed by CWM or whatever method the R800x uses, and other roms like CM9 will brick me right?
I'll try reading through the stickies or other topics right now.
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yes essentially but it won't brick it as you can use flashtool to flash it back.
I'm going sleep now since its 04:30am lol, night and good luck
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fma965 said:
yes essentially but it won't brick it as you can use flashtool to flash it back.
I'm going sleep now since its 04:30am lol, night and good luck
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Alright thanks a lot. Gonna do some more research. Is it just me or is it hard to find an R800x rom? Only definite ones I've found are Cola and GBTweaked. I like Xperia NXT and Gin2JellyBean but I can't tell if they are R800x compatible.
isoDUB said:
Alright thanks a lot. Gonna do some more research. Is it just me or is it hard to find an R800x rom? Only definite ones I've found are Cola and GBTweaked. I like Xperia NXT and Gin2JellyBean but I can't tell if they are R800x compatible.
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Any ROM will work if you're not planning on using it as a phone. (GSM Roms break the phone aspect of the R800x, that should be it.)
Pax
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paxChristos said:
Any ROM will work if you're not planning on using it as a phone. (GSM Roms break the phone aspect of the R800x, that should be it.)
Pax
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Yeah, why are cdma roms so hard to make? glad I have gsm
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fma965 said:
Yeah, why are cdma roms so hard to make? glad I have gsm
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They're not any harder to make than a GSM ROM, its just our user base is smaller, (and also, on average, from who I've communicated with, the more active R800x users tend to be older, so less time to spend working on ROMs) leading to less ROMs
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I am currently working on a Minot rom that is somewhat built for gaming. When I am done I will post the link here
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So basically I can use any rom I want that works on a locked bootloader? Won't mess with wifi or any other important function besides the phone, yes? That'll make choosing a rom much easier. Thanks for the info guys.
Hey guys. I decided to go with Xperia NXT v1.2. In the guide, it says to flash some firmware and root. Since I am rooted, can I skip those steps and go straight to installing CWM?
isoDUB said:
Hey guys. I decided to go with Xperia NXT v1.2. In the guide, it says to flash some firmware and root. Since I am rooted, can I skip those steps and go straight to installing CWM?
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I recommend that you follow all the steps for optimal performance
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fma965 said:
I recommend that you follow all the steps for optimal performance
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Alright will do.
Completely off topic here but is your avatar the album art for Living Things?
Linkin Park album
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isoDUB said:
Hey guys. I decided to go with Xperia NXT v1.2. In the guide, it says to flash some firmware and root. Since I am rooted, can I skip those steps and go straight to installing CWM?
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Why are you trying to install a GSM ROM!??!? It won't work on the R800x unless you like a black homes screen, soft key not working, video recording, pictures, etc. You need a CDMA rom which is practically the stock rom debloated. Apparently there is no custom roms for the CDMA xperia play other than cyanogenmod or fxp. Make sure you know how to use flashtool to revert your xperia play back to stock and fully functional again.
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Why are you trying to install a GSM ROM!??!? It won't work on the R800x unless you like a black homes screen, soft key not working, video recording, pictures, etc. You need a CDMA rom which is practically the stock rom debloated. Apparently there is no custom roms for the CDMA xperia play other than cyanogenmod or fxp. Make sure you know how to use flashtool to revert your xperia play back to stock and fully functional again.
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What? I was told that it only affects the phone stuff like data, calling and sms.
EDIT: Looked at GBTweaked, and do any of you guys know what he means when he says he removed basic games? I'd like to keep Asphalt 6.