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Can someone please clear up my confusion

All the different versions of the Play, and it's availability across the globe is making things very confusing for me to figure out. Can someone please give me some straight answers to the following questions? (And, yes, I -did- try to read the threads, but I'm not getting it.)
First, my relevant stats:
Wireless Provider: Verizon
Location: US
Phone: Xperia Play
Model: R800x
Network type: CDMA
Bootloader: Locked
Rooted: Yes
Custom Recovery: CWM installed to the \System
Questions:
1. If I have my bootloader unlocked, what ROMS will work properly with the US Verizon network?
2. Again, assuming the above, which kernel(s) should be used?
3. Once more, assuming the above, how is the functionality of the Gamepad affected? (Obviously, it needs to work to make any sense of having the phone unlocked and loading a Custom ROM.)
Maybe I'm making this harder than it needs to be. But, it seems to me that the R800x is such a different beast from all the other models of the Play that it would almost make sense to have its own sub-forum.
Please note my prior Android experience has been with the LG Ally and the LG Vortex. No bootloaders, no multiple models with different rules based on the country of origin, just straight-forward simple configurations. The rules were simple: Root, install Custom Recovery, make a Nandroid, install your choice of Custom ROMs and enjoy. So you can see why this environment is so perplexing to me.
Thank you in advance for clarifying my options. I'm sure with all the knowledgeable folks here, I'll soon be rocking a new configuration.

Bumpage
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the title of the rom will say cdma in it if the rom/kernel work on the r800x
as far as functionality goes the stock roms aka not cm7 or ics they work perfect, cm7 is hit and miss with the game pad some games work some dont (i think most work though.) as far as ics its not made for our phone might never be.

Thanks for that info. Just want to make sure it's worth doing.
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bladestonez said:
the title of the rom will say cdma in it if the rom/kernel work on the r800x
as far as functionality goes the stock roms aka not cm7 or ics they work perfect, cm7 is hit and miss with the game pad some games work some dont (i think most work though.) as far as ics its not made for our phone might never be.
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uh Ics is for our phone try looking in Xda thread in android development for Xperia Play plAy
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bladestonez said:
the title of the rom will say cdma in it if the rom/kernel work on the r800x
as far as functionality goes the stock roms aka not cm7 or ics they work perfect, cm7 is hit and miss with the game pad some games work some dont (i think most work though.) as far as ics its not made for our phone might never be.
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How misinformed are you buddy?
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He means the R800x. Verizon may not give us ICS. We're still stuck on 2.3.3.
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Not for R800x which is CDMA. See why it's so confusing?
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yeah my bad.. didn't read it properly
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[Q] Any ICS Roms that work without unlocking bootloader?

At the moment I cant unlock my bootloader, so Im wondering if there is a ICS Rom that works with the normal kernel. Im on the most recent NA 2.3.4 firmware for the R800a if that makes a difference and I have the Xperia Play 4G (R800at).
Thanks guys.

No

I didn't think so but I saw someone say something like that in the general subforum. Thanks.
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Nope. But on the plus side, the official ICS update from Sony is imminent.

Bacondroid said:
Nope. But on the plus side, the official ICS update from Sony is imminent.
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Not as imminent as you might have been led to believe.
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The only ICS roms we have right now require an unlocked bootloader. They alone aren't worth unlocking it IMO.
Might as well just wait for the official update.
Unlocking the bootloader is still a good idea in general, but if the only rom you wanna try is stock ICS, and not any custom ones, don't bother.
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I heard the ICS++ work with a locked bootloader...but i dont think its true
If you like the design of ICS then use a rom that is ICS themed...at least a little

MacCoremag said:
I heard the ICS++ work with a locked bootloader...but i dont think its true
If you like the design of ICS then use a rom that is ICS themed...at least a little
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It's impossible that it could work locked, since you need to flash an ICS kernel with fastboot.
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Ics fast approaching?

So its getting closer to june, we were told when ics was due in feb/march that it was being delayed till may/june.
My question is does anyone really think we will get an official ics at all?

I think there's no reason not to, we got the beta, and our Xperia Play's are pretty decent to run ICS has the Arc S.
Just a matter of time I believe

Don't say fast approaching! They'll delay it even further! You know they watch these forums, right!?

Slowly approaching...
Not to mention, the date they gave is when they start rolling it out, it could take 4 - 6 weeks from the first release til your specific one. August/September ; how does that sound?
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MilkyJoePD said:
Slowly approaching...
Not to mention, the date they gave is when they start rolling it out, it could take 4 - 6 weeks from the first release til your specific one. August/September ; how does that sound?
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Not to mention the fact that while all of you lucky R800i users will probably get an official ICS update, we R800x users probably don't have a snowball's chance in hell of ever getting it.

http://www.ptcrb.com/vendor/complete/view_complete_request_guest.cfm?modelid=18898
For R800i I take a regular look at this site. We'll be close to ICS when some new builds will show up here. Right now, the newest build for R800i is German's .69. So any future builds should be ICS builds I think.

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I'm on Stock 2.3.3 now and when IXS comes around for my R800i, will I have to unroot first?
(I'll be updating via PCC).
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romcio47 said:
http://www.ptcrb.com/vendor/complete/view_complete_request_guest.cfm?modelid=18898
For R800i I take a regular look at this site. We'll be close to ICS when some new builds will show up here. Right now, the newest build for R800i is German's .69. So any future builds should be ICS builds I think.
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Have you noticed that normal Arc and the other 2011 handsets that were due out same time as Play have been up there on there lists for a while ready to go. No sign of the Plays FW. With so many issues with games on there Beta Rom, Would it be a good idea from Sony to release FW which is very buggy and takes half of the plays features away. Cant see game Dev's rushing out to Fix there old titles just for Sony's mistake.

is there any reason why sony delay xperia play ICS? forget the beta version, we just need the final one
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MilkyJoePD said:
Slowly approaching...
Not to mention, the date they gave is when they start rolling it out, it could take 4 - 6 weeks from the first release til your specific one. August/September ; how does that sound?
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Can't someone just compile a ROM for us?

Just sit back and enjoy the ride the update will xome eventually if your obsessed with updates get a ps3 it updates everytime you turn it on
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That only updates often to try to stop cfw and true blu users.

I seem to remember Sony saying that people would be better staying on Gingerbread.
I wouldn't be surprised if Sony didn't update.
Though, in all fairness, some of the ICS ROMs on here are better looking than the standard Sony stuff
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I am sure, that Sony will give us the ICS update.
The situation about updates was/is bad for Sony, so they want to change something a give updates earlier.
BUT, as they said, gingerbread is running good and ICS is not optimalized yet. I think, that update will came later than they said, but it WILL come.
Here is also question about gaming HW. So this is/will be big problem i think. On ICS it has different functionality than GB.
No one maked rom, that will support gaming HW in all ways like stock rom. And THIS will be problem about new ICS.

Gh61 said:
I am sure, that Sony will give us the ICS update.
The situation about updates was/is bad for Sony, so they want to change something a give updates earlier.
BUT, as they said, gingerbread is running good and ICS is not optimalized yet. I think, that update will came later than they said, but it WILL come.
Here is also question about gaming HW. So this is/will be big problem i think. On ICS it has different functionality than GB.
No one maked rom, that will support gaming HW in all ways like stock rom. And THIS will be problem about new ICS.
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I'm gonna say that people should wait and see what the Cyanogenmod team do with it. They made gingerbread even better with CM7
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Still undecided whether I will update.
Will it be like installing Windows Vista on an old PC?
Or will it be like installing Windows 7?
If it's a 'Vista like experience' I deffo don't want to do it.

Gh61 said:
I am sure, that Sony will give us the ICS update.
The situation about updates was/is bad for Sony, so they want to change something a give updates earlier.
BUT, as they said, gingerbread is running good and ICS is not optimalized yet. I think, that update will came later than they said, but it WILL come.
Here is also question about gaming HW. So this is/will be big problem i think. On ICS it has different functionality than GB.
No one maked rom, that will support gaming HW in all ways like stock rom. And THIS will be problem about new ICS.
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I'm guessing that's because Sony hasn't released the source for the beta.

psxpetey said:
Just sit back and enjoy the ride the update will xome eventually if your obsessed with updates get a ps3 it updates everytime you turn it on
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Last time I updated my PS3 was a couple of months ago,your point?

GetPatriotized said:
Last time I updated my PS3 was a couple of months ago,your point?
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Probably a 360 or PC gamer
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CTU_Loscombe said:
Probably a 360 or PC gamer
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Nope,I only play on PS3. Game on it everyday. Never owned a 360,barely play PC games.

Dev Challenge

OK first, this thread does not intend to convey any lack of appreciation or respect to the devs or any of their ROMs.
That being said, it seems to me that by now, most of the ROMs are pretty much the same as the ROMs they are cloned from. Really, there are just so many things you can mod, after all.
However, there are a few things that have been left unresolved and I think it might be useful to make a list of the things we would like the devs to take on. So I will start the ball rolling land maybe others would care to offer some ideas as well.
1. A patch for ROMs based on the Sony Beta to enable fully functional CDMA and 3G capability.
2. Increased volume in CM9.
3. A Verizon 2.3.4 FTF file.
4. A modified Play Launcher which shows all your games.
That's all I can think of for now. Please feel free to add your USEFUL and POSITIVE comments and suggestions. And as always, thanks to our devs for the work you do. We appreciate you so much!
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Its funny you mention the 3G Verizon CDMA, I have been messaging with Pax on the topic of makinga CDMA patch, in factc I literally just emailed him on it, again, about 20 seconds ago... I asked him if he wanted to make a thread on the Dev section where we try to get some additional help with the CDMA patch as I have no programming experience and I have never used APK tool, and I do not exactly have a lot of free time due to job, wife, kids, etc. But I am willing to give it a shot. I was thinking o getting a AT&T Xplay after my contract is due in Dec, but I think I have changed my mind, and decided why cant we just create a CDMA patch. I mean if they have it for AOSP, why not us. Plus, I see all these cool ROMs for the GSM and go, "I want to try that ROM".

jgregoryj1 said:
Its funny you mention the 3G Verizon CDMA, I have been messaging with Pax on the topic of makinga CDMA patch, in factc I literally just emailed him on it, again, about 20 seconds ago... I asked him if he wanted to make a thread on the Dev section where we try to get some additional help with the CDMA patch as I have no programming experience and I have never used APK tool, and I do not exactly have a lot of free time due to job, wife, kids, etc. But I am willing to give it a shot. I was thinking o getting a AT&T Xplay after my contract is due in Dec, but I think I have changed my mind, and decided why cant we just create a CDMA patch. I mean if they have it for AOSP, why not us. Plus, I see all these cool ROMs for the GSM and go, "I want to try that ROM".
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My thoughts exactly. Same with some of the GB ROMs like Ancestor. It would be nice to have a patch for those, which ought to be doable since we have GB 2.3.4 compatibility now.
It comes down to whether or not we have enough users that need it and a dev or devs interested in the challenges.
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About #4, there is this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=14712258
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Swipe off notifications in Gingerbread.
That would suit me down to the ground
Or implementation of the 4 Corners UI from the X10Mini. Saves having folders everywhere

I want swipe to remove notifications for GB too! It's so epic!
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leots said:
I want swipe to remove notifications for GB too! It's so epic!
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I dont reckon it would be too hard to implement to be honest

Here is the thread to make it yourself, although I wonder if the apk from the op is not compatible with you cdma guys as if I remember well he owns a ray.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1483193
[HOWTO]Implement Swipe to Remove Notification
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netizenmt said:
My thoughts exactly. Same with some of the GB ROMs like Ancestor. It would be nice to have a patch for those, which ought to be doable since we have GB 2.3.4 compatibility now.
It comes down to whether or not we have enough users that need it and a dev or devs interested in the challenges.
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I agree wholeheartedly. I see tons of ROMs that I'd love to try but they're all GSM, especially gingerbread ROMs.
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netizenmt said:
However, there are a few things that have been left unresolved and I think it might be useful to make a list of the things we would like the devs to take on. So I will start the ball rolling land maybe others would care to offer some ideas as well.
1. A patch for ROMs based on the Sony Beta to enable fully functional CDMA and 3G capability.
2. Increased volume in CM9.
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Challenge accepted.
Regarding #3 - The update needs to be posted to SEUS, then an ftf can be made.
Regarding #4 - I don't use the launcher, so I won't be messing with it too much.
Otherwise, I'll be starting on number two soon & one eventually
Pax
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paxChristos said:
Challenge accepted.
Regarding #3 - The update needs to be posted to SEUS, then an ftf can be made.
Regarding #4 - I don't use the launcher, so I won't be messing with it too much.
Otherwise, I'll be starting on number two soon & one eventually
Pax
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Appreciate it, Pax. I'll be glad to test for you.
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I don't know what's with the audio but its present in all AOSP roms, I think its an issue for other devices too.
It might have something to do with the audio effects.
After the stunt Sony just pulled, open sourcing their touch pad implementation would be fair enough, and IMHO would be better than official ICS.
I need a new kernel splash screen my support for Sony has dropped a little bit, but hopefully they will treat us with respect and release something for us.
Touch pads fully fixed on CM9 would be awesomesauce
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KeiranFTW said:
I don't know what's with the audio but its present in all AOSP roms, I think its an issue for other devices too.
It might have something to do with the audio effects.
After the stunt Sony just pulled, open sourcing their touch pad implementation would be fair enough, and IMHO would be better than official ICS.
I need a new kernel splash screen my support for Sony has dropped a little bit, but hopefully they will treat us with respect and release something for us.
Touch pads fully fixed on CM9 would be awesomesauce
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Yeah +1 on the new splash screen lol or...keep the logo and put Dont.Believe under it lmao

About this dev challenge:
Stereo has been fixed, volume will be much louder: https://github.com/CyanogenMod/andr...mmit/bab72b92f3f1d806ae1306e99cc2ff0570053660
Volume on first boot is fixed.
WiFi tethering SHOULD be fixed.
Bluetooth audio is still broken afaik
But progress is good
Thanks to FXP for fixing audio!
Should be in next nightly/FXP release
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Another thing that would be awesome is a CDMA patch to use with GSM ROMs based on 2.3.X ROMs
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+1. Totally.
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KeiranFTW said:
About this dev challenge:
Stereo has been fixed, volume will be much louder: https://github.com/CyanogenMod/andr...mmit/bab72b92f3f1d806ae1306e99cc2ff0570053660
Volume on first boot is fixed.
WiFi tethering SHOULD be fixed.
Bluetooth audio is still broken afaik
But progress is good
Thanks to FXP for fixing audio!
Should be in next nightly/FXP release
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FINALLY! Now I can use ICS! Wait... dammit. I want to play Bruce Lee and those games. F*ck.
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Just got an R800x. Where do I go from here?

I just got an Xperia Play (Verizon) and to my surprise it was rooted already.
Gingerbread 2.3.2
Baseband: 7X30A-AAABQMAZM-1290_10-01
Kernel: 2.6.21.9-perf
Build Number: 3.0.E.2.89
Should I get a Gingerbread rom? ICS rom? Leave it on stock? I plan to use this phone for gaming, music, and web browsing (and using the former more than the latter), so I'm looking for the solution with the best gaming performance. Not going to be used as a phone at all. Also, is 7-8gb enough for games? I have about 22gb of music than I want to put on the Play once I get around to getting a 32gb micro sd card.

Unlock your phone. It costs $25 but so worth it. I unlocked mine a couple days ago.
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DubleJayJ said:
Unlock your phone. It costs $25 but so worth it. I unlocked mine a couple days ago.
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What do you mean by unlock? Like unlock to use for other carriers? I'm not using it as a phone cause I don't need to. I only bought it for gaming, since I'm selling my Droid X to a friend.

isoDUB said:
What do you mean by unlock? Like unlock to use for other carriers? I'm not using it as a phone cause I don't need to. I only bought it for gaming, since I'm selling my Droid X to a friend.
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no you need to unlock the bootloader to flash custom kernels which are needed for custom ROMs
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fma965 said:
no you need to unlock the bootloader to flash custom kernels which are needed for custom ROMs
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Oh really? You have anywhere I can read up on this stuff? And how can I check if it's unlocked?
How viable do you think stock is just for gaming and music?

isoDUB said:
Oh really? You have anywhere I can read up on this stuff? And how can I check if it's unlocked?
How viable do you think stock is just for gaming and music?
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please use search
stock based roms are the best for gaming you can flash roms like true ancestor and Gin2JellyBean Without a unlocked bootloader as they can use stock kernel
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fma965 said:
please use search
stock based roms are the best for gaming you can flash roms like true ancestor and Gin2JellyBean Without a unlocked bootloader as they can use stock kernel
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Sorry about not using search.
Basically, what you're saying is stock based roms like the ones you listed will be able to be flashed by CWM or whatever method the R800x uses, and other roms like CM9 will brick me right?
I'll try reading through the stickies or other topics right now.

isoDUB said:
Sorry about not using search.
Basically, what you're saying is stock based roms like the ones you listed will be able to be flashed by CWM or whatever method the R800x uses, and other roms like CM9 will brick me right?
I'll try reading through the stickies or other topics right now.
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yes essentially but it won't brick it as you can use flashtool to flash it back.
I'm going sleep now since its 04:30am lol, night and good luck
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fma965 said:
yes essentially but it won't brick it as you can use flashtool to flash it back.
I'm going sleep now since its 04:30am lol, night and good luck
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Alright thanks a lot. Gonna do some more research. Is it just me or is it hard to find an R800x rom? Only definite ones I've found are Cola and GBTweaked. I like Xperia NXT and Gin2JellyBean but I can't tell if they are R800x compatible.

isoDUB said:
Alright thanks a lot. Gonna do some more research. Is it just me or is it hard to find an R800x rom? Only definite ones I've found are Cola and GBTweaked. I like Xperia NXT and Gin2JellyBean but I can't tell if they are R800x compatible.
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Any ROM will work if you're not planning on using it as a phone. (GSM Roms break the phone aspect of the R800x, that should be it.)
Pax
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paxChristos said:
Any ROM will work if you're not planning on using it as a phone. (GSM Roms break the phone aspect of the R800x, that should be it.)
Pax
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Yeah, why are cdma roms so hard to make? glad I have gsm
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fma965 said:
Yeah, why are cdma roms so hard to make? glad I have gsm
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They're not any harder to make than a GSM ROM, its just our user base is smaller, (and also, on average, from who I've communicated with, the more active R800x users tend to be older, so less time to spend working on ROMs) leading to less ROMs
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I am currently working on a Minot rom that is somewhat built for gaming. When I am done I will post the link here
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So basically I can use any rom I want that works on a locked bootloader? Won't mess with wifi or any other important function besides the phone, yes? That'll make choosing a rom much easier. Thanks for the info guys.

Hey guys. I decided to go with Xperia NXT v1.2. In the guide, it says to flash some firmware and root. Since I am rooted, can I skip those steps and go straight to installing CWM?

isoDUB said:
Hey guys. I decided to go with Xperia NXT v1.2. In the guide, it says to flash some firmware and root. Since I am rooted, can I skip those steps and go straight to installing CWM?
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I recommend that you follow all the steps for optimal performance
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I recommend that you follow all the steps for optimal performance
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Alright will do.
Completely off topic here but is your avatar the album art for Living Things?

Linkin Park album
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isoDUB said:
Hey guys. I decided to go with Xperia NXT v1.2. In the guide, it says to flash some firmware and root. Since I am rooted, can I skip those steps and go straight to installing CWM?
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Why are you trying to install a GSM ROM!??!? It won't work on the R800x unless you like a black homes screen, soft key not working, video recording, pictures, etc. You need a CDMA rom which is practically the stock rom debloated. Apparently there is no custom roms for the CDMA xperia play other than cyanogenmod or fxp. Make sure you know how to use flashtool to revert your xperia play back to stock and fully functional again.

chery2k said:
Why are you trying to install a GSM ROM!??!? It won't work on the R800x unless you like a black homes screen, soft key not working, video recording, pictures, etc. You need a CDMA rom which is practically the stock rom debloated. Apparently there is no custom roms for the CDMA xperia play other than cyanogenmod or fxp. Make sure you know how to use flashtool to revert your xperia play back to stock and fully functional again.
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What? I was told that it only affects the phone stuff like data, calling and sms.
EDIT: Looked at GBTweaked, and do any of you guys know what he means when he says he removed basic games? I'd like to keep Asphalt 6.