All the different versions of the Play, and it's availability across the globe is making things very confusing for me to figure out. Can someone please give me some straight answers to the following questions? (And, yes, I -did- try to read the threads, but I'm not getting it.)
First, my relevant stats:
Wireless Provider: Verizon
Location: US
Phone: Xperia Play
Model: R800x
Network type: CDMA
Bootloader: Locked
Rooted: Yes
Custom Recovery: CWM installed to the \System
Questions:
1. If I have my bootloader unlocked, what ROMS will work properly with the US Verizon network?
2. Again, assuming the above, which kernel(s) should be used?
3. Once more, assuming the above, how is the functionality of the Gamepad affected? (Obviously, it needs to work to make any sense of having the phone unlocked and loading a Custom ROM.)
Maybe I'm making this harder than it needs to be. But, it seems to me that the R800x is such a different beast from all the other models of the Play that it would almost make sense to have its own sub-forum.
Please note my prior Android experience has been with the LG Ally and the LG Vortex. No bootloaders, no multiple models with different rules based on the country of origin, just straight-forward simple configurations. The rules were simple: Root, install Custom Recovery, make a Nandroid, install your choice of Custom ROMs and enjoy. So you can see why this environment is so perplexing to me.
Thank you in advance for clarifying my options. I'm sure with all the knowledgeable folks here, I'll soon be rocking a new configuration.
Bumpage
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the title of the rom will say cdma in it if the rom/kernel work on the r800x
as far as functionality goes the stock roms aka not cm7 or ics they work perfect, cm7 is hit and miss with the game pad some games work some dont (i think most work though.) as far as ics its not made for our phone might never be.
Thanks for that info. Just want to make sure it's worth doing.
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bladestonez said:
the title of the rom will say cdma in it if the rom/kernel work on the r800x
as far as functionality goes the stock roms aka not cm7 or ics they work perfect, cm7 is hit and miss with the game pad some games work some dont (i think most work though.) as far as ics its not made for our phone might never be.
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uh Ics is for our phone try looking in Xda thread in android development for Xperia Play plAy
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bladestonez said:
the title of the rom will say cdma in it if the rom/kernel work on the r800x
as far as functionality goes the stock roms aka not cm7 or ics they work perfect, cm7 is hit and miss with the game pad some games work some dont (i think most work though.) as far as ics its not made for our phone might never be.
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How misinformed are you buddy?
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He means the R800x. Verizon may not give us ICS. We're still stuck on 2.3.3.
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Not for R800x which is CDMA. See why it's so confusing?
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yeah my bad.. didn't read it properly
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Hey there everybody.
I'm thinking of jumping to a verizon xperia play and i'm trying to figure out how i'd root it and get to the point where i can flash custom roms.
I think the Flash Tool is what i want, but i cant find any detailed explanation of what it does and how to use it (i'm a big fan of reading up) on either its thread here, the x10 thread, or its website. I think it might be so ubiquitous here that i'm out of my element coming from sprint/samsung land. Help a brother out?
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Trickee360 said:
Hey there everybody.
I'm thinking of jumping to a verizon xperia play and i'm trying to figure out how i'd root it and get to the point where i can flash custom roms.
I think the Flash Tool is what i want, but i cant find any detailed explanation of what it does and how to use it (i'm a big fan of reading up) on either its thread here, the x10 thread, or its website. I think it might be so ubiquitous here that i'm out of my element coming from sprint/samsung land. Help a brother out?
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If do get it there are something you should know.
Root is easy, check the link named zergRush in my signature.
To load a custom rom (that doesn't require a new kernel) you need to install CWM, and there is an app available in the market for it (CWM for Xperia, or something like that)
If you want a rom that requires a custom kernel (i.e. cm7 is all that we have right now) then you need to pay ($24) to unlock the bootloader to install a custom rom
Flashtool is a combination of two programs, it can be used in fastboot mode (to load a custom kernel (i think, i've only used it for the other usage I'll talk about now)
Otherwise it can be used to flash a ftf file (a copy of the update) to bring your phone to stock.
Pax
Thanks very much. Sounds simple enough. I have another question now: how about tethering? i realize i'll have a data cap to contend with, but if i need that option, how does it work on the play?
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Trickee360 said:
Thanks very much. Sounds simple enough. I have another question now: how about tethering? i realize i'll have a data cap to contend with, but if i need that option, how does it work on the play?
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CM 7 has it built in. on stock, your only option is a 3rd party program (without a tethering plan, of course)
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Seems pretty standard, then. Thanks
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OK, I have had my R800x since last August and I love this phone. My last two phones were the Motorola Milestone and Motorola Droid 2 Global (never buying a Moto again, hate them and their locked tight BL)
Anyway, my question is why is it that someone cant just make a CDMA patch that would work with either all or select GSM Roms? Maybe make a patch and apply that as an update.zip to after flashing a GSM rom to the r800x and have it work? Can someone shed some light on this as to why this has happend or been suggested? I am sure that I am not the only one to ask this question........thoughts?
Think it's something to do with the radio.
Actually reminds me of region locking on DVDs :s
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So there is no way to make a patch that would just over write the radio to work with CDMA Verizon?
I have seen some older android phones where they were able to flash a cdma patch to make GSM roms work on the CDMA variants of the phone..... why cant this be done here?
I have no idea how it works. Probably better asking a dev to be honest.
There may be a workaround but I can't be certain
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I have no idea how it works. Probably better asking a dev to be honest.
There may be a workaround but I can't be certain
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Hmmm, ok. I will ask a couple Devs. Thank you for your feedback CTU (any relation to the totally bada$$ show 24? The Jack Bauer Power Hour)
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Hmmm, ok. I will ask a couple Devs. Thank you for your feedback CTU (any relation to the totally bada$$ show 24? The Jack Bauer Power Hour)
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Yep
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OK, I have had my R800x since last August and I love this phone. My last two phones were the Motorola Milestone and Motorola Droid 2 Global (never buying a Moto again, hate them and their locked tight BL)
Anyway, my question is why is it that someone cant just make a CDMA patch that would work with either all or select GSM Roms? Maybe make a patch and apply that as an update.zip to after flashing a GSM rom to the r800x and have it work? Can someone shed some light on this as to why this has happend or been suggested? I am sure that I am not the only one to ask this question........thoughts?
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There are select GSM ROMs that work (or somewhat work)
GSM to CDMA Patches do exist, and work most of the time.
2.3.3 GSM ROMs (that are below 4.0.x.x firmware) can be easily ported to CDMA
CM9 and AOKP have been ported to CDMA from the GSM variants.
The Sony ICS Beta has been ported to CDMA, with various results.
OK first, this thread does not intend to convey any lack of appreciation or respect to the devs or any of their ROMs.
That being said, it seems to me that by now, most of the ROMs are pretty much the same as the ROMs they are cloned from. Really, there are just so many things you can mod, after all.
However, there are a few things that have been left unresolved and I think it might be useful to make a list of the things we would like the devs to take on. So I will start the ball rolling land maybe others would care to offer some ideas as well.
1. A patch for ROMs based on the Sony Beta to enable fully functional CDMA and 3G capability.
2. Increased volume in CM9.
3. A Verizon 2.3.4 FTF file.
4. A modified Play Launcher which shows all your games.
That's all I can think of for now. Please feel free to add your USEFUL and POSITIVE comments and suggestions. And as always, thanks to our devs for the work you do. We appreciate you so much!
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Its funny you mention the 3G Verizon CDMA, I have been messaging with Pax on the topic of makinga CDMA patch, in factc I literally just emailed him on it, again, about 20 seconds ago... I asked him if he wanted to make a thread on the Dev section where we try to get some additional help with the CDMA patch as I have no programming experience and I have never used APK tool, and I do not exactly have a lot of free time due to job, wife, kids, etc. But I am willing to give it a shot. I was thinking o getting a AT&T Xplay after my contract is due in Dec, but I think I have changed my mind, and decided why cant we just create a CDMA patch. I mean if they have it for AOSP, why not us. Plus, I see all these cool ROMs for the GSM and go, "I want to try that ROM".
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Its funny you mention the 3G Verizon CDMA, I have been messaging with Pax on the topic of makinga CDMA patch, in factc I literally just emailed him on it, again, about 20 seconds ago... I asked him if he wanted to make a thread on the Dev section where we try to get some additional help with the CDMA patch as I have no programming experience and I have never used APK tool, and I do not exactly have a lot of free time due to job, wife, kids, etc. But I am willing to give it a shot. I was thinking o getting a AT&T Xplay after my contract is due in Dec, but I think I have changed my mind, and decided why cant we just create a CDMA patch. I mean if they have it for AOSP, why not us. Plus, I see all these cool ROMs for the GSM and go, "I want to try that ROM".
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My thoughts exactly. Same with some of the GB ROMs like Ancestor. It would be nice to have a patch for those, which ought to be doable since we have GB 2.3.4 compatibility now.
It comes down to whether or not we have enough users that need it and a dev or devs interested in the challenges.
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About #4, there is this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=14712258
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Swipe off notifications in Gingerbread.
That would suit me down to the ground
Or implementation of the 4 Corners UI from the X10Mini. Saves having folders everywhere
I want swipe to remove notifications for GB too! It's so epic!
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leots said:
I want swipe to remove notifications for GB too! It's so epic!
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I dont reckon it would be too hard to implement to be honest
Here is the thread to make it yourself, although I wonder if the apk from the op is not compatible with you cdma guys as if I remember well he owns a ray.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1483193
[HOWTO]Implement Swipe to Remove Notification
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netizenmt said:
My thoughts exactly. Same with some of the GB ROMs like Ancestor. It would be nice to have a patch for those, which ought to be doable since we have GB 2.3.4 compatibility now.
It comes down to whether or not we have enough users that need it and a dev or devs interested in the challenges.
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I agree wholeheartedly. I see tons of ROMs that I'd love to try but they're all GSM, especially gingerbread ROMs.
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However, there are a few things that have been left unresolved and I think it might be useful to make a list of the things we would like the devs to take on. So I will start the ball rolling land maybe others would care to offer some ideas as well.
1. A patch for ROMs based on the Sony Beta to enable fully functional CDMA and 3G capability.
2. Increased volume in CM9.
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Challenge accepted.
Regarding #3 - The update needs to be posted to SEUS, then an ftf can be made.
Regarding #4 - I don't use the launcher, so I won't be messing with it too much.
Otherwise, I'll be starting on number two soon & one eventually
Pax
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paxChristos said:
Challenge accepted.
Regarding #3 - The update needs to be posted to SEUS, then an ftf can be made.
Regarding #4 - I don't use the launcher, so I won't be messing with it too much.
Otherwise, I'll be starting on number two soon & one eventually
Pax
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Appreciate it, Pax. I'll be glad to test for you.
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I don't know what's with the audio but its present in all AOSP roms, I think its an issue for other devices too.
It might have something to do with the audio effects.
After the stunt Sony just pulled, open sourcing their touch pad implementation would be fair enough, and IMHO would be better than official ICS.
I need a new kernel splash screen my support for Sony has dropped a little bit, but hopefully they will treat us with respect and release something for us.
Touch pads fully fixed on CM9 would be awesomesauce
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I don't know what's with the audio but its present in all AOSP roms, I think its an issue for other devices too.
It might have something to do with the audio effects.
After the stunt Sony just pulled, open sourcing their touch pad implementation would be fair enough, and IMHO would be better than official ICS.
I need a new kernel splash screen my support for Sony has dropped a little bit, but hopefully they will treat us with respect and release something for us.
Touch pads fully fixed on CM9 would be awesomesauce
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Yeah +1 on the new splash screen lol or...keep the logo and put Dont.Believe under it lmao
About this dev challenge:
Stereo has been fixed, volume will be much louder: https://github.com/CyanogenMod/andr...mmit/bab72b92f3f1d806ae1306e99cc2ff0570053660
Volume on first boot is fixed.
WiFi tethering SHOULD be fixed.
Bluetooth audio is still broken afaik
But progress is good
Thanks to FXP for fixing audio!
Should be in next nightly/FXP release
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Another thing that would be awesome is a CDMA patch to use with GSM ROMs based on 2.3.X ROMs
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+1. Totally.
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KeiranFTW said:
About this dev challenge:
Stereo has been fixed, volume will be much louder: https://github.com/CyanogenMod/andr...mmit/bab72b92f3f1d806ae1306e99cc2ff0570053660
Volume on first boot is fixed.
WiFi tethering SHOULD be fixed.
Bluetooth audio is still broken afaik
But progress is good
Thanks to FXP for fixing audio!
Should be in next nightly/FXP release
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FINALLY! Now I can use ICS! Wait... dammit. I want to play Bruce Lee and those games. F*ck.
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i just wanna ask is it possible? i just rooted my Verizon r800x locked BL using superoneclick i am currently on 2.3.3.
You can use locked bl roms only. Unfortunately, no ICS for you.
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There may still be hope.
While 2.3.4 does work it is a bit flawed but if you don't mind being disconnected from Google servers its not a big deal. As for 2.3.3 I enjoyed Cola rom since I like to build my own setup and it is quite striped of clutter. There are a few other nice ones to try as well. Do hope the recent try to port some of the themes and such will work out as it would give us quite a few more options.
I just got an Xperia Play (Verizon) and to my surprise it was rooted already.
Gingerbread 2.3.2
Baseband: 7X30A-AAABQMAZM-1290_10-01
Kernel: 2.6.21.9-perf
Build Number: 3.0.E.2.89
Should I get a Gingerbread rom? ICS rom? Leave it on stock? I plan to use this phone for gaming, music, and web browsing (and using the former more than the latter), so I'm looking for the solution with the best gaming performance. Not going to be used as a phone at all. Also, is 7-8gb enough for games? I have about 22gb of music than I want to put on the Play once I get around to getting a 32gb micro sd card.
Unlock your phone. It costs $25 but so worth it. I unlocked mine a couple days ago.
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DubleJayJ said:
Unlock your phone. It costs $25 but so worth it. I unlocked mine a couple days ago.
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What do you mean by unlock? Like unlock to use for other carriers? I'm not using it as a phone cause I don't need to. I only bought it for gaming, since I'm selling my Droid X to a friend.
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What do you mean by unlock? Like unlock to use for other carriers? I'm not using it as a phone cause I don't need to. I only bought it for gaming, since I'm selling my Droid X to a friend.
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no you need to unlock the bootloader to flash custom kernels which are needed for custom ROMs
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no you need to unlock the bootloader to flash custom kernels which are needed for custom ROMs
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Oh really? You have anywhere I can read up on this stuff? And how can I check if it's unlocked?
How viable do you think stock is just for gaming and music?
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Oh really? You have anywhere I can read up on this stuff? And how can I check if it's unlocked?
How viable do you think stock is just for gaming and music?
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please use search
stock based roms are the best for gaming you can flash roms like true ancestor and Gin2JellyBean Without a unlocked bootloader as they can use stock kernel
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please use search
stock based roms are the best for gaming you can flash roms like true ancestor and Gin2JellyBean Without a unlocked bootloader as they can use stock kernel
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Sorry about not using search.
Basically, what you're saying is stock based roms like the ones you listed will be able to be flashed by CWM or whatever method the R800x uses, and other roms like CM9 will brick me right?
I'll try reading through the stickies or other topics right now.
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Sorry about not using search.
Basically, what you're saying is stock based roms like the ones you listed will be able to be flashed by CWM or whatever method the R800x uses, and other roms like CM9 will brick me right?
I'll try reading through the stickies or other topics right now.
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yes essentially but it won't brick it as you can use flashtool to flash it back.
I'm going sleep now since its 04:30am lol, night and good luck
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yes essentially but it won't brick it as you can use flashtool to flash it back.
I'm going sleep now since its 04:30am lol, night and good luck
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Alright thanks a lot. Gonna do some more research. Is it just me or is it hard to find an R800x rom? Only definite ones I've found are Cola and GBTweaked. I like Xperia NXT and Gin2JellyBean but I can't tell if they are R800x compatible.
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Alright thanks a lot. Gonna do some more research. Is it just me or is it hard to find an R800x rom? Only definite ones I've found are Cola and GBTweaked. I like Xperia NXT and Gin2JellyBean but I can't tell if they are R800x compatible.
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Any ROM will work if you're not planning on using it as a phone. (GSM Roms break the phone aspect of the R800x, that should be it.)
Pax
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Any ROM will work if you're not planning on using it as a phone. (GSM Roms break the phone aspect of the R800x, that should be it.)
Pax
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Yeah, why are cdma roms so hard to make? glad I have gsm
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Yeah, why are cdma roms so hard to make? glad I have gsm
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They're not any harder to make than a GSM ROM, its just our user base is smaller, (and also, on average, from who I've communicated with, the more active R800x users tend to be older, so less time to spend working on ROMs) leading to less ROMs
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I am currently working on a Minot rom that is somewhat built for gaming. When I am done I will post the link here
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So basically I can use any rom I want that works on a locked bootloader? Won't mess with wifi or any other important function besides the phone, yes? That'll make choosing a rom much easier. Thanks for the info guys.
Hey guys. I decided to go with Xperia NXT v1.2. In the guide, it says to flash some firmware and root. Since I am rooted, can I skip those steps and go straight to installing CWM?
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Hey guys. I decided to go with Xperia NXT v1.2. In the guide, it says to flash some firmware and root. Since I am rooted, can I skip those steps and go straight to installing CWM?
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I recommend that you follow all the steps for optimal performance
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I recommend that you follow all the steps for optimal performance
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Alright will do.
Completely off topic here but is your avatar the album art for Living Things?
Linkin Park album
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isoDUB said:
Hey guys. I decided to go with Xperia NXT v1.2. In the guide, it says to flash some firmware and root. Since I am rooted, can I skip those steps and go straight to installing CWM?
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Why are you trying to install a GSM ROM!??!? It won't work on the R800x unless you like a black homes screen, soft key not working, video recording, pictures, etc. You need a CDMA rom which is practically the stock rom debloated. Apparently there is no custom roms for the CDMA xperia play other than cyanogenmod or fxp. Make sure you know how to use flashtool to revert your xperia play back to stock and fully functional again.
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Why are you trying to install a GSM ROM!??!? It won't work on the R800x unless you like a black homes screen, soft key not working, video recording, pictures, etc. You need a CDMA rom which is practically the stock rom debloated. Apparently there is no custom roms for the CDMA xperia play other than cyanogenmod or fxp. Make sure you know how to use flashtool to revert your xperia play back to stock and fully functional again.
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What? I was told that it only affects the phone stuff like data, calling and sms.
EDIT: Looked at GBTweaked, and do any of you guys know what he means when he says he removed basic games? I'd like to keep Asphalt 6.