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Getting an inc2 from gassy need help

Alright my droid inc2 willbe here in a couple of hours and m coming from a fassy I am reallying confused on the rooting process for this phone and Rome and stuff of that nature if anyone could point me in the right direction it would be great. Like do I ever use Odin? Hemdiell? Cwm? Bootloader? Ill be honest compared to the galaxy s it seems like a totally fifteenth scene and this was the first phone I rooted. Any suggestion is welcome
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Golgotha theskull said:
Alright my droid inc2 willbe here in a couple of hours and m coming from a fassy I am reallying confused on the rooting process for this phone and Rome and stuff of that nature if anyone could point me in the right direction it would be great. Like do I ever use Odin? Hemdiell? Cwm? Bootloader? Ill be honest compared to the galaxy s it seems like a totally fifteenth scene and this was the first phone I rooted. Any suggestion is welcome
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Do not accept the ota update, whatever you do.
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kingsway8605 said:
Do not accept the ota update, whatever you do.
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Negative Nancy is right

Golgotha theskull said:
Alright my droid inc2 willbe here in a couple of hours and m coming from a fassy I am reallying confused on the rooting process for this phone and Rome and stuff of that nature if anyone could point me in the right direction it would be great. Like do I ever use Odin? Hemdiell? Cwm? Bootloader? Ill be honest compared to the galaxy s it seems like a totally fifteenth scene and this was the first phone I rooted. Any suggestion is welcome
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Root from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1160511
simply dl, unzip to desktop, install other files on website, plug in phone "with usb debugging" and set to charge. Run Alpharevx and it will do all the work for you. It will also install Clockwork Recovery.
From there I did this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1160745
and after that simply install the ROM you want in the Dinc2 Android Dev section of this forum. I have used CM7 and MIUI 1.7.8. I was a CM fan but am really enjoying the MIUI interface and themes. You can DL Rom Manager from the market and have it DL and install the latest version of either one of these themes, or you can dl them from this site and install them manually.

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Do not accept the ota update, whatever you do.
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It came with it preinstalled I read that much and when I saw that got a little frustrated
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first thing to do when you're DInc2 arrives is check the software info. If you're still on Froyo, then you're golden, you can use a free software utility made by Alpharev X to S-OFF (bypass the digital signature that prevents unauthorized software installation). If it comes preinstalled with Gingerbread, you're boned; the only way to S-OFF is to use an XTC Clip which will cost you abit of cash. If you find yourself needing to go that route, PM me, I have an unused PAYG XTC Clip with 1 credit.

In came with gingerbread is there not a way to flash the froyo Rom like the fascinate if not I don't think ill root for a while in case I need to take my phone in
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Will this phone every get a more conventional root?

Coming from HTC/Motorola phones primarily the development for this phone has confused me a bit. Those phones used to get a normal root method pretty soon after release without having to worry about messing around the kernal.
Is there going to be a day where you can just root it and leave the kernal alone or is the kernal/root thing exclusive to Samsung phones?

Whsn i was on att i would use superoneclick. I too was wondering this.
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We need this.
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The root for this phone is as easy as it gets. I just rooted my friends inspire and while it is only one click the process it goes through us way more complex.
Samsung Galaxy S II

stangdriverdoug said:
The root for this phone is as easy as it gets. I just rooted my friends inspire and while it is only one click the process it goes through us way more complex.
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Yeah I have to say this was a very easy process to root coming from an evo4g
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I think he meant the fact that ur using the kernel to get to root instaed the more conventional root method we are used to seeing on devices like htc and so on. It is pretty strange the fact u flash a kernel and then flash to get root its typically gain root then flash somethingy. Or at least thats what my noob ass is used to lol
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stangdriverdoug said:
The root for this phone is as easy as it gets. I just rooted my friends inspire and while it is only one click the process it goes through us way more complex.
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All the root methods are simple to execute for someone who can read. But I am referring to the fact (as edison said) that you have to flash a new kernal to achieve root. I'm personally waiting for a more typical root method before I root.
Not that I don't appreciate/love the dev community but I like a COMPLETE stock setup with root before I go messing around experimenting because I don't necessarily trust EVERY dev and don't have the technical expertise to fix stuff myself.

Only solution is to just wait, I don't think many would be working on another root method because this one isn't complex, is noob friendly and works 100% I don't see any pressing reason for another method
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Yup I hear ya. You can always root then odin bubbys pulled stock kernel for a complete stock root. It's not one click but it's close. Only draw back it there is no recovery.
Samsung Galaxy S II

Conventional root?
What is that?

Umm...there is no other way? There's no exploit anymore guys...it's either flash a rooted kernel or flash a rooted /system. And that's easy as hell
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Unless you can get hold of Samsung's signing keys for creating a signed update.zip or find a new exploit (which would have to be fixed eventually because exploits are essentially security holes) you are pretty much stuck with the current methods.
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squshy 7 said:
Umm...there is no other way? There's no exploit anymore guys...it's either flash a rooted kernel or flash a rooted /system. And that's easy as hell
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Wow,so no more one click roost with cwm then we can flash any kernel and be good? Shizznit, one click was good stuff
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I miss z4root. Im not a newber but I know I like my simplicity redundantly simple.
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Honestly odin is pretty the one click we need.
.: sent from my Samsung Galaxy S II Epic 4G Touch :.

Dude samsung released the source and practically handed us root on a silver platter
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gpgorbosjr said:
All the root methods are simple to execute for someone who can read. But I am referring to the fact (as edison said) that you have to flash a new kernal to achieve root. I'm personally waiting for a more typical root method before I root.
Not that I don't appreciate/love the dev community but I like a COMPLETE stock setup with root before I go messing around experimenting because I don't necessarily trust EVERY dev and don't have the technical expertise to fix stuff myself.
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Why should anyone find a exploit to root the phone when the bootloader
Is open and allows you to root much easier....google keeps closing holes in software making it harder and harder to root ...its not a htc where they s-off the phone .....this will probably be the only way to root because there is no reason to find another
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What could be easier than putting this in Odin http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1282415 and hitting the start button

I think the point people are trying to make here is that they wish there was a way to have root and recovery and remain bone stock. So far there is no way to do this. Alot of people don't want to flash a custom kernel at this point because of all the problems people are reporting. Myself included. I am still stock and won't root until devs get this stuff sorted. Maybe koush will figure it out...
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It's not really clear from the titles in the development section, but there is a way to root without flashing a kernel.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1282418
That's a stock system image, simply modified to include root. No kernel at all.

Galaxy Nexus Guy Needing Help On Buddies Sprint Epic 4G

Hey guys posting this up for a friend.
He sent me a message the other day after I told him about the voice app that is similar to Siri on the Iphone. He said he wanted that app and asked if I could install it for him, forgetting his phone was stock I said I would. Here is the thing, he wants to keep the phone like it is so changing rom's etc is out of the question.
Here is my current situation:
I rooted the phone and SuperUser is on there and shows to be working correctly. So that's a positive!
I downloaded the the autorun thing(sorry can't think of the name right now) where you could add ClockWorkRecovery to it. It's FF18 so I done the option D on the program and it ran and completed and the phone reset like it should but it won't go into CWR by doing the PWR+VolUp+VolDown that I'm used to.
Phone is running the ICS OTA update(FF18)
He doesn't have Root Explorer or any pay for app to allow me to delete any system apps or add any by copy and pasting. I have a ZIP file I found that would allow me to add the app through CWR but I'm not sure what I done wrong or if I don't know the correct way to get into CWR on that phone. I also read online that the factory Kernel won't allow the phone to go into CWR. I hate that I'm posting a thread that is common knowledge but I don't own the phone. Thanks in advance!!

Holding down the Pwr+Vol up puts you into Cwm....Pwr+Vol dwn puts you into download mode/odin
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Post above mine will get you where you need to be dude, I'm assuming you're trying to flash the Google now apk? Or svoice? I cannot recommend Google now over svoice highly enough... svoice is not so good, a lot like siri in that way come to think of it...
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Awesome guys, thanks for the quick replies!!!
It was S Voice that he was wanting, does Google Now do the same thing? Any info/links? Much appreciated guys!!

Google now does the same thing and more, all much better than svoice and much much better than siri... overview found here... http://www.google.com/landing/now/
Apk here... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1747224
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The svoice app is Samsung's Siri equivalent. Its ok, but not really anything more than a novelty. Google now is part of jelly bean (which i'm kinda surprised you don't have on your nexus, but I digress) and is a much more polished Siri competitor, that is, in many ways and in my opinion better than siri.

This is a Epic 4g touch thread not the Epic 4g. These are different phones. Go to the Epic 4g Q&A thread.
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GiantJay said:
This is a Epic 4g touch thread not the Epic 4g. These are different phones. Go to the Epic 4g Q&A thread.
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Hmm didn't know the Epic 4G had an FF18 OTA, or an ICS OTA for that matter...
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Thanks for the help! I do have Google Now on my Nexus, just didn't pay attention to the new word of "Now" after it. It's pretty neat though, I enjoy it.
I don't think it'll work on his phone since he's on the stock ROM and it says it must be a Deodexed rom. I think he'll be happy with SVoice, thanks again for your help!

If u cant get into recovery withvol up and power somethin wrong.. Maybe get mobile odin or just pc odin a better cwm with custom recovery like agat or kuban or someones
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Recovery is not safe to use on stock ff18 by the way. You could potentially brick your friend's phone. Please if you can provide current screenshots of about phone showing current rom and kernel.

im0rtalz said:
Recovery is not safe to use on stock ff18 by the way. You could potentially brick your friend's phone. Please if you can provide current screenshots of about phone showing current rom and kernel.
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He posted he already got the svoice zip flashed, regardless of the safety of the recovery he shouldn't have had to worry about it for what he was trying to do... he wasn't wiping any partitions to flash a rom or anything...
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The PWR+VolUp worked and I flashed the SVoice.zip but it didn't install the app on the phone. If you try to install it through ES File Explorer it says "Application Cannot Be Installed". That phone is kicking my ass for whatever reason, I'm sure it's because of the stock ROM. My Fascinate and Nexus never did fight me that way, but they were never on stock ROM very long.
What's the best way to install this app on a stock ROM? Thank you all for the help so far.

im0rtalz said:
Recovery is not safe to use on stock ff18 by the way. You could potentially brick your friend's phone. Please if you can provide current screenshots of about phone showing current rom and kernel.
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The only unsafe thing in the recovery is a factory reset. Flashing a zip is not gonna brick you unless it's a seriously corrupt file.

Anyone have any info to add? Why won't this app flash through the zip in CWR?

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Finally got it, thanks for your help guys!!!

[Q] Password protect both Download mode and Recovery????

Hey guys..
Straight forward question..
Is it possible to password protect our Download and Recovery modes?
And i mean when you press and hold vol dwn+home+power method. Not through the android software reboot menu.
I want/like this idea because if someone were to steal my phone. They would NEVER be able to flash a custom ROM or even flash a stock ROM img. They would be completely locked out making the device useless to them.
The only way i think they could get past it is by using JTAG to overwrite the download partition with a stock one. But hardly anyone has a JTAG device.
Well this would be awesome. lol
Have at it

Im guessing it would require a modified bootloader. Not really sure though. Ive wondered about this myself. Never seen it done though.
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DocHoliday77 said:
Im guessing it would require a modified bootloader. Not really sure though. Ive wondered about this myself. Never seen it done though.
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I think it would be the ultimate level of security. And i agree a modified bootloader would be necessary. How one would go abouts creating one i am clueless.

elesbb said:
I think it would be the ultimate level of security. And i agree a modified bootloader would be necessary. How one would go abouts creating one i am clueless.
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As am I lol! This ones a bit above my skill level!
Problem is, itd have to be redone for each model. Unless there was a way to have sonething that could sit on top of or intercept power on and run before the bootloader....I really have no idea though, just tossing ideas!
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DocHoliday77 said:
As am I lol! This ones a bit above my skill level!
Problem is, itd have to be redone for each model. Unless there was a way to have sonething that could sit on top of or intercept power on and run before the bootloader....I really have no idea though, just tossing ideas!
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Too bad it's not the HD2
But yes I think one would need to be made for each device... and if I or anyone can create the bootloader, how would you flash the bootloader? JTAG device?
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Believe it or not, Im pretty sure you can flash any partition through Odin, so there you go! I could be wrong of course....
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Believe it or not, Im pretty sure you can flash any partition through Odin, so there you go! I could be wrong of course....
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Hey you could be right too! I never knew that! Hmmm I think in my spare time I shall delve into this!
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Best of luck on it man! If I can be of help let me know, though on this dont expect a lot from me!!
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that is a great idea indeed.:good:

Very interesting topic, but I think it is impossible to do (Recovery & download) are design to prevent forgotten password issues.
What a pity

Guys i thnk if it can be done
It will be easy to install it on our devices if rooted (stock android)
As companies like sammy ,htc have diff kernals
I thnk we can successfully do this fr nexus ,micromax ,karbonn etc.....
Lets have a try
Ny one tried this before
If so plz gimme a guide of it so that it will b easy fr me
Lemmi try my best fr us to have ultimate theft protection on our android devices
I hope if it wrks google may add it on its future devices

The "ultimative" protection would be:
When a phone is stolen, you can remotely trigger "the suicide button" xD
When it is triggered and the phone receives the command (Even if the phone is running other ROM) it reboots the phone and erases the Bootloader and some other things that are important for the phone to work.
Best. Protection. Ever.
Second thing I could imagine is that phone companies could protect the download mode with a password (12 digits or so).
That password will come printed on one of the manuals when you buy the phone.
If you attempt to flash an image in download mode, you will be prompted for the password.
And, optionally, if you put the password 10 times wrong, it will erase bootloader and etc.
Third idea: The download mode only will prompt for a password (printed on the manual), if you atempt to flash another ROM on it... Because this will change the confidential signature that the old ROM has passed to the download mode.
(I am not sure if this could be done. I'm just saying ideas...)

Kernels

So I've been searching everywhere but I can't seem to find anything about it for LGOG, how do you flash a custom kernel? I found some methods for other phones but I'm afraid to try them because I don't know of its the same method required for the LGOG. I'm an android newbie so I apologize if this is something that's easy to do
I'm running JellyBeer and my current kernel says 3.4 HP Pavilion Notebook
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sccrplyr214 said:
So I've been searching everywhere but I can't seem to find anything about it for LGOG, how do you flash a custom kernel? I found some methods for other phones but I'm afraid to try them because I don't know of its the same method required for the LGOG. I'm an android newbie so I apologize if this is something that's easy to do
I'm running JellyBeer and my current kernel says 3.4 HP Pavilion Notebook
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only kernel to my knowledge you can flash if yourrunning an aosp rom ( which jellybeer is) would be smoocha kernel thread for it in android development kinda buried a bit but its there got the link for you
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2246163
if running stock can run evloutions kernel is super sweet
heres evloutions link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2181976

Now how would I go about doing that? I'm pretty sure I found that thread earlier but it didn't have instructions. Would I just put it into the root storage and flash it like I would for a ROM or gapps package?
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sccrplyr214 said:
Now how would I go about doing that? I'm pretty sure I found that thread earlier but it didn't have instructions. Would I just put it into the root storage and flash it like I would for a ROM or gapps package?
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yeppers put in sdcard0
go to recovery
some say you dont have to wipe cacehs for kernel but i do just to be safe
flash kernel
reboot
profit

spleef said:
yeppers put in sdcard0
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some say you dont have to wipe cacehs for kernel but i do just to be safe
flash kernel
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Thank you, now its time to flash this *****! Hopefully it'll give me a bit of a performance/battery life increase. I also read something in another thread mentioning the connections optimizer I believe? I couldn't find it again, but it said deleting/uninstalling/freezing that and another similar app would improve download speed and battery life but it wasn't very detailed nor could I find them when I searched through everything in my file explorer. I also didn't want to delete anything that sounded that important without knowing for sure because I surely can't afford to brick my phone
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sccrplyr214 said:
Thank you, now its time to flash this *****! Hopefully it'll give me a bit of a performance/battery life increase. I also read something in another thread mentioning the connections optimizer I believe? I couldn't find it again, but it said deleting/uninstalling/freezing that and another similar app would improve download speed and battery life but it wasn't very detailed nor could I find them when I searched through everything in my file explorer. I also didn't want to delete anything that sounded that important without knowing for sure because I surely can't afford to brick my phone
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It's not going to be on jelly beer or any aosp ROM.. it is a built in the settings stock app and If your inclined to freeze it (which im not saying do, never did it myself or read anyone doing it but could use titanium as long as your rooted) but if your on any of our custom ROMs the Dev of it will help you it with most issues, our devs here are in a class of their own..... simply superb
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sccrplyr214 said:
Thank you, now its time to flash this *****! Hopefully it'll give me a bit of a performance/battery life increase. I also read something in another thread mentioning the connections optimizer I believe? I couldn't find it again, but it said deleting/uninstalling/freezing that and another similar app would improve download speed and battery life but it wasn't very detailed nor could I find them when I searched through everything in my file explorer. I also didn't want to delete anything that sounded that important without knowing for sure because I surely can't afford to brick my phone
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I think this is included in the stock rom and I think most custom roms get rid of it. If this is incorrect please someone correct me
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