Re: HSPA Settings Change in Build.Prop - Samsung Epic 4G Touch

Re: HSPA Settings Change in Build.Prop
So I had watched this debate the other day .
Curiousity got the best of me...
I applied these settings and my 3g is not only waay faster...but also incredibley predictable and consistent...
I think you guys are being a little silly in saying this isnt true... A lot of people could benefit from this.

Sahn-J said:
So I had watched this debate the other day .
Curiousity got the best of me...
I applied these settings and my 3g is not only waay faster...but also incredibley predictable and consistent...
I think you guys are being a little silly in saying this isnt true... A lot of people could benefit from this.
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Can you provide a link to this debate and some information?

I believe this is the thread in question:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1681998

TNumber5 said:
I believe this is the thread in question:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1681998
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Yeah, sort of. Most of the posts were removed :/
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Sahn-J said:
Yeah, sort of. Most of the posts were removed :/
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lol and apparently that guy is temp banned XD http://d.pr/i/5NPp

HaiKaiDo said:
lol and apparently that guy is temp banned XD http://d.pr/i/5NPp
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That's what someone was telling me but it has to be about something else, right?
I mean, the settings help a lot but there was some serious trolling going on anyway (weren't you one) That'd be pretty sad if the punishment for knowing you are right is a ban.

Sahn-J said:
That's what someone was telling me but it has to be about something else, right?
I mean, the settings help a lot but there was some serious trolling going on anyway (weren't you one) That'd be pretty sad if the punishment for knowing you are right is a ban.
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he wasnt banned for being right, he was banned for being an asshat.
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after applying the changes in build.prop and rebooting, my 3g speeds have dropped from about 860 kbps to 475 kbps, however, my 4g speeds increased from 6125 kbps to 11750 kbps. O_O

Still curious how and why ANYONE could think that editing 1: the build.prop which for most anything now is useless junk. It's main purpose is to serve as a file that programs can read in order to know the properties of the device. That's it. 2: Editing HSPA settings for a CDMA device which doesn't use HSPA or anything like it. Two completely different techs.
If one happens to obtain 'higher' speeds by editing a file that governs absolutely nothing when it comes to the radio - it's called circumstantial. That being, the higher speeds are not a result of the edits you made but of the situation and would have resulted regardless of the edits being made. eg. you rebooted your phone after making the edits. The re-registering on the nearest tower caused the higher speeds - not the edits.
The build.prop is not a setting file. It's not read by the system in order to set any parameters. Only by apps or shared by the system in order for an app or website to know the properties of the device like resolution, model, brand, version, is it CDMA or GSM, 3G or 4G capable, what class of 3G/4G, and so on.
This topic is old and tired. It really is. It's time to lock another thread or delete it entirely.

Placebo effect of course.

so let me get this straight:
Dude provides useful information. He goes about it by stating facts, and the way he comes across (mind you this is the internet) is of being an asshat.
He's then insulted saying he's a complete n00b asshat.
He proves (through countless edits) his results, and some people take interest.
Some curious individuals apply his settings and poof! not only is he right on some levels of 3g, but on 4g as well.
And you laugh and say not only is it circumstantial, but it's also a placebo effect...EVEN THOUGH SPEED TESTS PROVE OTHERWISE.
interesting bunch of individuals you are.

I'm going to lock this one as I can see infractions will more than likely be handed out.
The thread will still be here (as the other one is) if you want to try it for yourself.
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Sahn-J said:
So I had watched this debate the other day .
Curiousity got the best of me...
I applied these settings and my 3g is not only waay faster...but also incredibley predictable and consistent...
I think you guys are being a little silly in saying this isnt true... A lot of people could benefit from this.
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Sahn-J said:
That's what someone was telling me but it has to be about something else, right?
I mean, the settings help a lot but there was some serious trolling going on anyway (weren't you one) That'd be pretty sad if the punishment for knowing you are right is a ban.
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Interesting considering you two are the exact same person. Creating a thread to copy your other thread.... Really?
cnstarz said:
he wasnt banned for being right, he was banned for being an asshat.
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This.
KCRic said:
Still curious how and why ANYONE could think that editing 1: the build.prop which for most anything now is useless junk. It's main purpose is to serve as a file that programs can read in order to know the properties of the device. That's it. 2: Editing HSPA settings for a CDMA device which doesn't use HSPA or anything like it. Two completely different techs.
If one happens to obtain 'higher' speeds by editing a file that governs absolutely nothing when it comes to the radio - it's called circumstantial. That being, the higher speeds are not a result of the edits you made but of the situation and would have resulted regardless of the edits being made. eg. you rebooted your phone after making the edits. The re-registering on the nearest tower caused the higher speeds - not the edits.
The build.prop is not a setting file. It's not read by the system in order to set any parameters. Only by apps or shared by the system in order for an app or website to know the properties of the device like resolution, model, brand, version, is it CDMA or GSM, 3G or 4G capable, what class of 3G/4G, and so on.
This topic is old and tired. It really is. It's time to lock another thread or delete it entirely.
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And this.

Related

Why?

Why do some people post their entire EVO Software Information on their signatures? I mean, what do we care about what PRL or PRI version someone is running? lol It's just like those that post their Speedtest.net results in their signatures as well. hahaha
Why Not Honda Cop
Picasosz said:
Why Not Honda Cop
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Just asking, don't get on the defensive.
ohh, you had me on your side there until the speedtest comment, haha
Maybe for a similar reason as to why people post pics of their cars in their sigs...
I put my tethered speed test in my sig today, never have done it before.
And I used to be one who put the basics about my phone in my sig (phone, rom, kernel) but that changes so often it's just a pain in the neck to keep up with.
HondaCop said:
Why do some people post their entire EVO Software Information on their signatures? I mean, what do we care about what PRL or PRI version someone is running? lol It's just like those that post their Speedtest.net results in their signatures as well. hahaha
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The same thing could be said for pretty much anything anyone puts in their signatures. Why bother have a witty quote? Or a picture of your favorite car or dog or sports team?
Well, actually the software version information might actually be helpful to give context's to a user's post. For instance, if someone is giving me advice on which ROM to install on my EVO, and according to their signature they are still using a Mogul-- I think I might take their advice slightly less seriously.
nebenezer said:
Maybe for a similar reason as to why people post pics of their cars in their sigs...
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HA!!! I thought it would take longer for someone to say that! HAHAHAHAH Yea, I guess you are right. BTW, before someone gets all defensive and starts trying to dissing me, I can take a joke as well. I was just trying to stir up some funny replies and lighten up the mood sometimes, since I spend so much time on these forums. hahaha
sohr said:
For instance, if someone is giving me advice on which ROM to install on my EVO, and according to their signature they are still using a Mogul-- I think I might take their advice slightly less seriously.
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LOL Yea, I agree
I don't really get the point that much here either because the amount of variation is not that great. On car forums I've been on it's helpful because there can be so many variables at play in diagnosing a problem or someone may want to ask you for your opinion on some aftermarket product you're using. To each their own but it does seem e-penis-like here.
Sent from the void...
Would you rather they post the size, weight and girth of their schlongs? Err, no..
Well its not as bad as when people here pit their Mac book specs in their sign. But yeah that usually reserved for PC gamers showing off their builds
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Actually....it can be helpfull as far as the specs in the sig.....when I was trying to root and upgrade my phone it was helpfull to see what others had.
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HondaCop, are you a car guy or just a honda-cop guy?
Are the results from the "Speed Test" application valid? Someone mentioned here one time that basing your connection speed, off of what you read, was not a good idea

okay, so on throttling...

i want to use the tool on this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=888372. i was reading through the t-mobile guide on throttling, and i got to page 9 without finding my answer. there are 39 pages, and i'm sorry if it offends someone that i didnt read through them all. so, my question is, will this tool work on my g2? or will it break it? i have back ups of both the stock rooted g2 rom, and my cyangoen user customized rom on my phone and on my computer. but i'd really rather not wait the ten minutes without internet that is going to happen if this ****s up.
EDIT: Okay so just be clear, this a post, about a tool, for the htc EVO, linked up there, that i want to know, whether it would be safe to use, on my G2
Dude, at least *try* to do your own research before starting a new thread. No more than halfway down on the first page of this subforum is this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=863923
How to defeat data throttling, specifically built for the G2.
moved up to orig post.
jenlow said:
just to be clear, this is a question about a tool, for the htc evo, to remove throttling on sprint. if youd click through, you would see that. what i want to know, is if its safe to use on the g2.
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Why would you think something made specificly for another phone would work on the G2. There is a thread in development for this subject and give instructions on how to defeat the data throttling, if those instructions are to complicated for you to follow then I think you might have to wait for someone here in the G2 forum to come up with a one click solution.
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why does everyone on xda think im retarded? I just want to know, if it would be safe to use. as from what i can tell, it only edits the services.jar file. I did not say i could not follow the directions on how to defeat throttling. I did not say i couldnt handle it. what i did say, was IS IT SAFE TO USE.
joemm said:
Why would you think something made specificly for another phone would work on the G2. There is a thread in development for this subject and give instructions on how to defeat the data throttling, if those instructions are to complicated for you to follow then I think you might have to wait for someone here in the G2 forum to come up with a one click solution.
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and if reading, correct spelling, and the correct usage of too, to, and two are too complicated for you, you should probably get microsoft word.
jenlow said:
why does everyone on xda think im retarded? I just want to know, if it would be safe to use. as from what i can tell, it only edits the services.jar file. I did not say i could not follow the directions on how to defeat throttling. I did not say i couldnt handle it. what i did say, was IS IT SAFE TO USE.
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Heres an idea, back up YOUR system, nandriod, then download the evo tool and run it, then you will get your awnser, i dont think anyone here is gonna be your beta tester, if its eatting at you that bad to know, then test it and let the rest of us know the big question. Does it work?
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jenlow said:
and if reading, correct spelling, and the correct usage of too, to, and two are too complicated for you, you should probably get microsoft word.
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At least I can follow instructions, and I dont have threads closed. Trust me everyone here is getting tired of you. And the data throttling thread works great for me, learn how to edit the service.jar files and repackage them then you wont have to beg for awnsers.....lol....please help me someone blah,blah,blah...
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jenlow said:
why does everyone on xda think im retarded? I just want to know, if it would be safe to use. as from what i can tell, it only edits the services.jar file. I did not say i could not follow the directions on how to defeat throttling. I did not say i couldnt handle it. what i did say, was IS IT SAFE TO USE.
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I misunderstood your original post.
However, here's what I'm thinking (no I didn't try it, I don't care about data throttling, but I did read the OP on both links). Given that this is a services.jar edit, and the threads linked specifically say that each ROM's services.jar file is different (hence the lack of a single solution for all ROMs), I would say that this is *probably* not a good idea to use across devices.
As mentioned above though, simply do a nandroid and then try it yourself - as long as you can boot into recovery, you can restore the nandroid if it doesn't and then the only thing you've wasted is ~15-20 minutes of your own time.
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I misunderstood your original post.
However, here's what I'm thinking (no I didn't try it, I don't care about data throttling, but I did read the OP on both links). Given that this is a services.jar edit, and the threads linked specifically say that each ROM's services.jar file is different (hence the lack of a single solution for all ROMs), I would say that this is *probably* not a good idea to use across devices.
As mentioned above though, simply do a nandroid and then try it yourself - as long as you can boot into recovery, you can restore the nandroid if it doesn't and then the only thing you've wasted is ~15-20 minutes of your own time.
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what im going to try, as per a message from a user, is to use the t-mobile services.jar in the zip, an edited version, and use it that way.
the reason i did ask, is that as my phone is the only source of internet i have atm, i dont want to break it permanently, or to a point where i need to have the internet to fix it.
joemm said:
At least I can follow instructions, and I dont have threads closed. Trust me everyone here is getting tired of you. And the data throttling thread works great for me, learn how to edit the service.jar files and repackage them then you wont have to beg for awnsers.....lol....please help me someone blah,blah,blah...
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you can follow instructions eh? well so can i. i rooted my device, installed cyanogen on it, ive edited several other things on my phone, as per the instructions of others. Notice how i asked before i actually went through with the update? i figured hey, there's a lot of guys more knowledgeable than me on here, why not see if someone knows the answer before i end up possibly having to come back here asking for help.
But then there are retards like you. My major, is computer science. my speciality is non unix-based programming. linux is a fun little project for me, not my life. that being said, when someone out there has much more experience in an area than me, i'm not afraid to ask for help. Someone who actually understands what i am asking, like the guy above me, and the nice guy who pm'ed me knows that i'm not asking a stupid question.
So here is a little quote to live by, "There are stupid questions. But if I(jenlow) am asking a question, you can guarantee it isnt because i didnt simply miss something.
now troll, crawl into your little hole, and keep extorting the patience of those that cross your bridge.
jenlow said:
you can follow instructions eh? well so can i. i rooted my device, installed cyanogen on it, ive edited several other things on my phone, as per the instructions of others. Notice how i asked before i actually went through with the update? i figured hey, there's a lot of guys more knowledgeable than me on here, why not see if someone knows the answer before i end up possibly having to come back here asking for help.
But then there are retards like you. My major, is computer science. my speciality is non unix-based programming. linux is a fun little project for me, not my life. that being said, when someone out there has much more experience in an area than me, i'm not afraid to ask for help. Someone who actually understands what i am asking, like the guy above me, and the nice guy who pm'ed me knows that i'm not asking a stupid question.
So here is a little quote to live by, "There are stupid questions. But if I(jenlow) am asking a question, you can guarantee it isnt because i didnt simply miss something.
now troll, crawl into your little hole, and keep extorting the patience of those that cross your bridge.
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And your phone is your only source of internet....LMAO
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joemm said:
And your phone is your only source of internet....LMAO
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yeah, because i'm going to school. and i just moved into my own apartment. And since mommy and daddy dont foot my bills, i'm waiting on internet until i get paid.
jenlow said:
yeah, because i'm going to school. and i just moved into my own apartment. And since mommy and daddy dont foot my bills, i'm waiting on internet until i get paid.
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I think I hear a violin playing......
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I think i hear a troll growing, oh ****, sorry, i forgot i was feeding one. Peace.
in case anyone competent wants to check this out, here is what i have done so far. i did not flash the original tool, but i did open the tool up and replace the services.jar with an edited version using the cyanogen cm6.1.1 stable releases copy of services.jar repacked it, and tried to flash. I got ~"trying to update>opening update>update failed (bad)" in the clockwork recovery language. i didnt edit anything about the tool other than the version of services.jar inside of it.
the version i used from cyanogen, i edited following the how to defeat data throttling instructions with the windows script.
and lol to the guy who rated this thread one star. ONE GUY. ha ha hahahahahahah.
Well here's my two cents on 2 topics...
On topic : I think making a zip file for instantaneous data cap removal would be great. I did the data throttle removal when it first came about to the G2 but the kicker is that I really dislike cyanogen roms and reverted back to stock shortly after. I forget just exactly how to repack a zip like this but messed with it in Flippys overclocking zip to make my own 1.9ghz update.zip a while back. Hopefully I can make one if Jenlow doesn't figure it out before me. I personally find it to be a good overall question that is sprouting some good ideas
I mean the possibility of a zip format throttle remover would benefit the entire community so why fight about it?
Off topic : Soooooo about this internet.... I have a friend who is paying $25/mo for a 1mbit connection in his apartment. I used my speedtest app in his living room. I got roughly 9.6mbits down. (Who the hell cares about up speeds though lol)
I pay exactly the same price he does for a lan as I do for my data and it is nearly 10x faster. In cases like that, it's more than worth it to use your phone as your source for internet.
/debate
The only troll I see in this thread is the OP; otherwise, said OP would have searched the "G2 and Desire Z Android Development" section and/or just click on the second-to-last link of my signature. Considering that I must've flashed a modified system.jar to my own phone at least two dozen times over various ROMs (including the current GingerVillain), I'd say it's safe.

[Q] Whats the best radio for your Desire Z?

Hey
Lets hear some user expirences. What has been the best radio for you?
PLEASE state where you are from and (this is optional) what mobile provider you have. This is VERY important to see which is better or/and worst for you.
State things like battery life, signal, 3G speeds, etc....
I want to point out (since there are very rude people in this thread) that what works for one person, may not work for you, even if you are in the same city on the same provider. There are a lot of factors that go into radio experiences.
That being said, DO NOT POST HERE SAYING THIS IS USELESS. If you dont agree with the thread, simply dont enter it and do not post. From now on, Im going to start reporting posts that just whine and ***** about the thread and say nothing on topic. If you have nothing helpful to say, dont say anything at all
If you want to check them out and test/switch them out, they are located at: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=970809&highlight=radio
Thanks and good luck!
Not sure what you're trying to find out, but bear in mind that even if someone has the same carrier as you, your own experience with a specific radio might be a lot different from theirs due to the complex factors involved (e.g. geography, type of signal you're receiving, etc).
There is no "best" radio other than the one you find works best for you.
Sent from my Desire Z running CM7.
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Not sure what you're trying to find out, but bear in mind that even if someone has the same carrier as you, your own experience with a specific radio might be a lot different from theirs due to the complex factors involved (e.g. geography, type of signal you're receiving, etc).
There is no "best" radio other than the one you find works best for you.
Sent from my Desire Z running CM7.
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The reason I asked for location: Thats why, because it is one of the factors that makes it different.
If you do not agree with this thread, just leave and dont comment Simple as that. If you want to share your expirence than go on right ahead!
mkwm said:
I'm using 26.10.04.03_M. Almost all the time, I'm within range of HSPA+ network in city center, but sometimes I'm in the area with extermely weak 2G signal only. None of the radios was able to maintain stable mobile data connection in such conditions. The only difference I see is that with current radio, my phone connects to my school's wireless network a bit faster than with shipped one. But that's all, battery life is also similar.
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Great post. Thanks
been using the 26.13.04.19 about a now, ive tried both with and without changing the lib files. either way i havent found too much difference in speeds and battery life. truthfully i feel i was getting the same speeds on the 26.02.01.15 radio and the battery life was a bit better. where i live i get great reception overall, rarely do i find myself without h (4g) or 3g. this is the case with both of these radios, ill check back as i continue playing with different radios.
great idea for a post by the way, over time the poll may give insight to the best radio for our phones be it just a generic overview (as the best will vary from user to user)
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If you do not agree with this thread, just leave and dont comment Simple as that.
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Umm, no sorry, it doesn't work that way. If you don't want people to disagree with you, then the internet is not for you.
Besides, its not like stevie was being snippy or anything. Just politely stated the simple fact that the correct radio is largely related to your specific location and carrier (and there are quite arguably, the most important variables). He's pointing out a valid flaw in the main point of this thread and poll. Better for him to mentioned it, then for people to think that some poll is going to magically steer them to the "best" radio, which it is not.
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Umm, no sorry, it doesn't work that way. If you don't want people to disagree with you, then the internet is not for you.
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I told him (and you) if you dont agree (and/or seem to understand) the purpose of the thread, then you have no reason of being here.
I clearly stated:
PLEASE state where you are from and (this is optional) what mobile provider you have. This is VERY important to see which is better or/and worst for you.
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And you yourself said:
the correct radio is largely related to your specific location and carrier (and there are quite arguably, the most important variables).
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So again: If you are not intrested in saying nothing, dont post. Simple as that.
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I told him (and you) if you dont agree (and/or seem to understand) the purpose of the thread, then you have no reason of being here.
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So only people that agree with you get to post on your threads? So who made you king of this forum?
Besides, steviewevie knows 100 times more than you ever will about smartphones, and very helpful to these forums. So it would be advisable not to smartmouth off at people like him, just because he doesn't agree with you.
Canada on Rogers : Vision_Radio_12.62.60.27_26.13.04.19 seems the best for me speedwise and connection wise and OK for battery life. For the battery life, the stock radio from Bell(where I got the phone originally) was the best, but I forgot what was it's number.
redpoint73: While you might find the poll useless to you, it can be useful to others. Your posts in this thread though are 100% useless.
@kinwolf This has been addressed who knows how many times. This poll cannot and will not offer credible information, and that's due to the fact that radio results vary between users, whether they're on the same provider/geographical area or not.
Regardless, I'm not "against" this thread, but I simply don't see how it is going to help anyone.
Just my 2 cents.
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So only people that agree with you get to post on your threads?
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Yes. You are just ruining a thread, not giving anything useful towards it.
redpoint73 said:
Besides, steviewevie knows 100 times more than you ever will about smartphones, and very helpful to these forums. So it would be advisable not to smartmouth off at people like him, just because he doesn't agree with you.
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Stop brown nosing. I understand exactly what you and he put. Again, if you dont agree with the thread, simple dont post.
kinwolf said:
Canada on Rogers : Vision_Radio_12.62.60.27_26.13.04.19 seems the best for me speedwise and connection wise and OK for battery life. For the battery life, the stock radio from Bell(where I got the phone originally) was the best, but I forgot what was it's number.
redpoint73: While you might find the poll useless to you, it can be useful to others. Your posts in this thread though are 100% useless.
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Thanks.
crestofawave said:
@kinwolf This has been addressed who knows how many times. This poll cannot and will not offer credible information, and that's due to the fact that radio results vary between users, whether they're on the same provider/geographical area or not.
Regardless, I'm not "against" this thread, but I simply don't see how it is going to help anyone.
Just my 2 cents.
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The bold part is the most important; If you are not intrested in this thread or dont see how it is useful, simply do not post. It is very easy and simple; As a matter of fact, to post or view the thread, you have to click a button. To ignore it, you dont have to do anything!
Updated first post.
with Vision_RADIO_12.28b.60.140e_26.03.02.26 i have some eco while calling
.30 tmo g2 running dz hboot in nor cal
P.s. responding to posts that dont 'agree' with you is just as useless as making a post to say 'thanks'
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kinwolf said:
Canada on Rogers : Vision_Radio_12.62.60.27_26.13.04.19 seems the best for me speedwise and connection wise and OK for battery life. For the battery life, the stock radio from Bell(where I got the phone originally) was the best, but I forgot what was it's number.
redpoint73: While you might find the poll useless to you, it can be useful to others. Your posts in this thread though are 100% useless.
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This post is a good example why this whole thread is fundamentally flawed. Saying your location is "Canada" is not specific enough. You need to get to the city level, location within the city, probably even the same cell tower. Even then, reception would still vary due to line of sight and distance to that particular tower. so you'd practically have to live in the same house, for the same radio to mean the same thing. So anecdotal information on what radio is "best" is completely worthless.
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riahc3 said:
Stop brown nosing. I understand exactly what you and he put. Again, if you dont agree with the thread, simple dont post.
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Paying respect where its due is not brown nosing. But someone on high of a horse as you wouldn't know anything about respect.
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Hey
I want to point out (since there are very rude people in this thread) that what works for one person, may not work for you, even if you are in the same city on the same provider. There are a lot of factors that go into radio experiences.
That being said, DO NOT POST HERE SAYING THIS IS USELESS. If you dont agree with the thread, simply dont enter it and do not post. From now on, Im going to start reporting posts that just whine and ***** about the thread and say nothing on topic. If you have nothing helpful to say, dont say anything at all
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You are completely over-reacting and being overly defensive. Nobody has been particularly rude. If you think so, you clearly haven't spent much time on XDA! Nobody said this thread was useless, either. But people have given constructive criticism why this thread is fundamentally flawed, and given that criticism pretty politely. You have a pretty sad opinion on what constitutes "whining and *****ing". If you want to report me, go ahead. I doubt any of the mods would buy it.
The main reasons myself and others call out the technical reason that there is no "best" radio, is because there is already a lot of misconception about this topic. And it needs to be called out, so that other users take this thread for what it is. You've revised your OP quite a bit along these lines. But only AFTER the alleged "*****ing and moaning". So I guess the criticism was constructive and useful after all, wasn't it?
I'll have to agree with redpoint73 and also add with the fact that this issue also has to do with the hardware aspect of the phone. You surely don't expect radio's to be identical photocopies of each other. So two phones at the same location with same ROM's and RADIO's can handle signals differently. If you add the location and carrier factors on top of that, there's no best radio, location wise or carrier wise.
And besides, this phone has been out for about TWO years. If there was some solution for this it would have already been covered.

Turn on SMS over IMS?

Can someone tell what was the default setting on the Turn on SMS over IMS? Should that feature be on or off and what does it do in general thanks?
You don't have to start another thread just because your first one didn't get answered...
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Thanks for the info that helped alot.
chasmanz28 said:
Thanks for the info that helped alot.
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OP, it's a pain asking on message boards,people get all defensive when they don't know the answer!
The only semi-useful info I could find was at code.google.com - (I'm a new user, can't post URL's)
Herman76 said:
You don't have to start another thread just because your first one didn't get answered...
Swiftkey'ed on my CM9 Galaxy Nexus
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This whole site has a great deal of unhelpful, self righteous twats. Top it off with the stupid posting restrictions for new users and you have a pretty damn unfriendly place for noobs. I should have known from the snarky video I had to watch just to join that this was an exclusive Android guru only place. It sucks that people come here to chat and get help with issues and this is the kind of responses they get. Good job. :thumbdown:
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chasmanz28 said:
Can someone tell what was the default setting on the Turn on SMS over IMS? Should that feature be on or off and what does it do in general thanks?
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The default setting is off.
IMS = IP Multimedia Subsystem
IP = Internet Protocol
SIP = Session Initiation Protocol
With setting off, SMS is sent/received over 1x circuit switched connection
With setting on, SMS is supposedly sent/received over a SIP session over IP (e.g. LTE)
I'm not sure if one is better than the other or what advantages/disadvantages either would have.
Is IMS even functional? I know it will be for VoLTE, but what about now?
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This whole site has a great deal of unhelpful, self righteous twats. Top it off with the stupid posting restrictions for new users and you have a pretty damn unfriendly place for noobs. I should have known from the snarky video I had to watch just to join that this was an exclusive Android guru only place. It sucks that people come here to chat and get help with issues and this is the kind of responses they get. Good job. :thumbdown:
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I 100% agree with this.
Herman76 said:
You don't have to start another thread just because your first one didn't get answered...
Swiftkey'ed on my CM9 Galaxy Nexus
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Look at this dudes signature, you can tell he's a corn ball.
Anyway, I was curious about this too because sms over ims is supposed to be available when volte launches, which hasn't yet (volte is voice and sms coming over LTE). Right now only data comes over LTE. Voice is still 1x with some other convoluted ehrpd stuff.
Anyhow, any luck with this? Did you give it a try? I imagine your data usage would go up since text would go against your data usage.
Xfanatic said:
This whole site has a great deal of unhelpful, self righteous twats. Top it off with the stupid posting restrictions for new users and you have a pretty damn unfriendly place for noobs. I should have known from the snarky video I had to watch just to join that this was an exclusive Android guru only place. It sucks that people come here to chat and get help with issues and this is the kind of responses they get. Good job. :thumbdown:
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Finally, someone whom sees it how I do. It's sad to see that this still happens. Every since the BB days and mIRC chat all the way up until now it continues. Forums are meant to help the "Noob" or "Lam3r" if any of you are old enough to remember that term. If you want to help then great, but if not then I would love for these fat, anti-social dorks to do something other than harass and discourage the young ones (and the older) who wish to learn.
If everyone could follow that philosophy as a general rule. Kind of like Open Source software, it's done for a cause, something greater than one's self. If forum users (not naming any in particular) would open their minds and allow a bit of tolerance for the unknowing rather than providing links to this, this and this (which sometimes is the easiest way to resolve and issue or answer a question). But god forbid if someone doesn't use the search feature.
I understand that answering the same questions over and over again is annoying. But rather than push that person off with another link or trolling comment just think back to when you were that "Lam3r" or that "N00b" noone wanted to help back in the 90's and how frustrating it was.
None of us started out this life knowing anything about software development, computers and networking, telecommunications, etc. But when a forum is created, watch out....everyone is an expert and "you are an idiot" if you have a simple question to ask. N00b's, don't let these loser's discourage you. Keep looking for your answers on XDA and you will find someone willing to help. There are tons of super cool members here.
And again, I'm with you 100% Xfanatic....
Deuces.
PAinguINx said:
Finally, someone whom sees it how I do. It's sad to see that this still happens. Every since the BB days and mIRC chat all the way up until now it continues. Forums are meant to help the "Noob" or "Lam3r" if any of you are old enough to remember that term. If you want to help then great, but if not then I would love for these fat, anti-social dorks to do something other than harass and discourage the young ones (and the older) who wish to learn.
If everyone could follow that philosophy as a general rule. Kind of like Open Source software, it's done for a cause, something greater than one's self. If forum users (not naming any in particular) would open their minds and allow a bit of tolerance for the unknowing rather than providing links to this, this and this (which sometimes is the easiest way to resolve and issue or answer a question). But god forbid if someone doesn't use the search feature.
I understand that answering the same questions over and over again is annoying. But rather than push that person off with another link or trolling comment just think back to when you were that "Lam3r" or that "N00b" noone wanted to help back in the 90's and how frustrating it was.
None of us started out this life knowing anything about software development, computers and networking, telecommunications, etc. But when a forum is created, watch out....everyone is an expert and "you are an idiot" if you have a simple question to ask. N00b's, don't let these loser's discourage you. Keep looking for your answers on XDA and you will find someone willing to help. There are tons of super cool members here.
And again, I'm with you 100% Xfanatic....
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I agree with you about agreeing with Xfanatic...and Lam3rs should not get discouraged because there really are good people out there!
On the topic - this reminds me of the setting in older phones (maybe began with the first few colour phones?) of using GPRS for SMS. Never really understood if it had any advantage/disadvantage and it was disabled by default. I didnt see any change in performance if it was on or off, and also couldn't see a notable change in data usage but it was harder to track back then...
ishaang said:
I agree with you about agreeing with Xfanatic...and Lam3rs should not get discouraged because there really are good people out there!
On the topic - this reminds me of the setting in older phones (maybe began with the first few colour phones?) of using GPRS for SMS. Never really understood if it had any advantage/disadvantage and it was disabled by default. I didnt see any change in performance if it was on or off, and also couldn't see a notable change in data usage but it was harder to track back then...
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How old are the phones you're referring to?
PAinguINx said:
How old are the phones you're referring to?
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Before phones were smart.
Haha! some like the P900 I still have a lot of respect for and it was probably as smart as todays phones with less gimmick
I was talking about phones from around 2002 or 2003...Nokia 7250i for example
This user's guide I found for the phone has the setting listed as one of the features - http://dl.owneriq.net/4/41149a6d-d289-4d77-b932-7006a2d469d8.pdf
IMS
wikipedia is your friend ref: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_Multimedia_Subsystem .. option remains relevant for new phones ie Nexus 4 etc. Sometimes registration is required to enable.
Rob
T-mobile definitely utilizes LTE(SIP - see above for definition) for sending texts. Not sure about other carriers.
Edit: I just tested on and off with or without registration, and really don't experience any noticeable difference regardless of how it's set. None the less, its apparently active on T-Mobile network.
Really?
You guys are all such a big help for people aren't you. this comes up in the top of a lot of SMS/IMS search results and you people are arguing over internet politics. juts fricken help people or move along okay? I gave up on trying to find my answer in this muck!
Cry babys
Dj_Dvkane said:
You guys are all such a big help for people aren't you. this comes up in the top of a lot of SMS/IMS search results and you people are arguing over internet politics. juts fricken help people or move along okay? I gave up on trying to find my answer in this muck!
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AGREE!
I wish I found my answer in this thread as I found during my friend Google search.
Instead I wasted my time reading blah blah blah Cry Babys blah!
I cant get 4g on my sony xperia m2 and when i got to network operators no 4g shows up please help

Phone Goes to Lockscreen When Call is Busy

when i call someone and its busy, my phone goes directly to the lockscreen instead of returning to the dial pad. how do i stop this from happening?
Stock, custom Rom? Special dial pad app? More info please.
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ScreamingSkulls said:
Stock, custom Rom? Special dial pad app? More info please.
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well its self-explanatory.. every tmobile s3 does this when a busy call comes in. its a factory stock rom. and no special dial pad.
iranz said:
well its self-explanatory.. every tmobile s3 does this when a busy call comes in. its a factory stock rom. and no special dial pad.
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Actually it is not self explanatory since you ARE on XDA.. did you do the basic factory reset first?
My phone has done this on every ROM I've tried I think. Including stock. Very annoying
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Actually it is not self explanatory since you ARE on XDA.. did you do the basic factory reset first?
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actually it is self-explanatory for those WHO OWN an S3 which obviously YOU DONT otherwise you'd know what we're talking about.
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My phone has done this on every ROM I've tried I think. Including stock. Very annoying
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yes i agree!!! its very annoying. and i wonder why it does this which wouldnt make sense. there has to be a fix to do somewhere.
edited because I hate wasting my time.
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actually it is self-explanatory for those WHO OWN an S3 which obviously YOU DONT otherwise you'd know what we're talking about.
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Actually he does own one. Read his signature.
Take a chill pill and offer some help to new users
Friendly Neighborhood Moderator
kennyglass123 said:
Actually he does own one. Read his signature.
Take a chill pill and offer some help to new users
Friendly Neighborhood Moderator
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actually he doesnt. otherwise, he'd know exactly how the phone functions when its busy. anyone can say anything in his signature, it doesnt mean its necessarily true. take it easy and offer some solutions to new comers to the forum.
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actually he doesnt. otherwise, he'd know exactly how the phone functions when its busy. anyone can say anything in his signature, it doesnt mean its necessarily true. take it easy and offer some solutions to new comers to the forum.
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Ahhhh yes we all like to edit our signatures and put in images or text about phones that we do not own and then we like to post in forums of phones we don't own. Well surprise I own a SGS3 (Not just 1 but 4 in my house) and I guess because the area I live in is so far advanced I have never had this "lockscreen when busy" happen because people from my planet all have CALL WAITING or VOICE MAIL which would be why I posted my initial reply to you.
In closing I'm sure with your positive and kind personality you have shown many will run to your rescue and provide a possible solution. I wait with excitement.
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Ahhhh yes we all like to edit our signatures and put in images or text about phones that we do not own and then we like to post in forums of phones we don't own.
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well ppl with issues have been known to do that.. i think youre one of them.
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Well surprise I own a SGS3 (Not just 1 but 4 in my house) and I guess because the area I live in is so far advanced I have never had this "lockscreen when busy" happen because people from my planet all have CALL WAITING or VOICE MAIL which would be why I posted my initial reply to you.
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surprise you DONT own a samsung galaxy s3. if you did you wouldve noticed that the phone gets lockscreened after a busy signal..
this guy says he owns 4 sg3's... ha ha ha!!!!! yeah ok mr. tmobile store, we believe you.
i guess ppl from your planet love to lie about things they dont own.. ha ha ha!!!
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In closing I'm sure with your positive and kind personality you have shown many will run to your rescue and provide a possible solution. I wait with excitement.
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in closing i'm sure with your truthful personality you think women are stupid enough to believe youre telling them the truth and therefore cant wait to sleep with you.. i wait with excitement when this happens.. keep dreaming Pinocchio cuz itll never happen.
Little out of hand dont you think?
FWIW i have never seen this either. I cant remember the last time i heard a busy signal....on any phone.
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I agree. Keep this up and infractions will follow. This is the second report I have had about this thread.
Fix the problem and move on.
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Little out of hand dont you think?
FWIW i have never seen this either. I cant remember the last time i heard a busy signal....on any phone.
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no not a little out of hand.. why dont you say the same thing to others who have 1st flamed up the thread? thats a good question.
if youve never seen an s3 lockscreened on a busy signal then you dont own an s3.
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I agree. Keep this up and infractions will follow. This is the second report I have had about this thread.
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i agree 100%.. i'm tired of these trolls... and i dont think you can fix the problem with these trolls.. real talk.
DocHoliday77 said:
Little out of hand dont you think?
FWIW i have never seen this either. I cant remember the last time i heard a busy signal....on any phone.
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I think around 2005. Before smart phones were even popular. Times sure have changed.
Or if you call yourself? Nvm it went to voicemail
psykhotic said:
I think around 2005. Before smart phones were even popular. Times sure have changed.
Or if you call yourself? Nvm it went to voicemail
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i'm going to tell u this as nice as possible.. i dont want you replying to my threads anymore.. DONT REPLY TO ANY OF MY THREADS ANYMORE AND DONT PM ME, OTHERWISE I WILL REPORT YOU TO THE MODS FOR HARASSMENT.
You can use the Ignore option to put anyone on your Ignore list. Click on the person's name and then Add To Ignore list. Then you will not see his/her posts, but if that person happens to have something benificial, you will not see that either.
Anyone can use the report button but it is for specific reasons/rule violations. If you see anything that breaks those, by all means report it but there has to be a justifiable reason behind the report for it to be actioned.
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You can use the Ignore option to put anyone on your Ignore list. Click on the person's name and then Add To Ignore list. Then you will not see his/her posts, but if that person happens to have something benificial, you will not see that either.
Anyone can use the report button but it is for specific reasons/rule violations. If you see anything that breaks those, by all means report it but there has to be a justifiable reason behind the report for it to be actioned.
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hi woodrube.. thanks for the info. i needed it. its just that this guy in the past has been coming to past threads and trolling and harassing not just me but other ppl. this is the justifiable reason..
iranz said:
i'm going to tell u this as nice as possible.. i dont want you replying to my threads anymore.. DONT REPLY TO ANY OF MY THREADS ANYMORE AND DONT PM ME, OTHERWISE I WILL REPORT YOU TO THE MODS FOR HARASSMENT.
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Report me for what? And why would I PM you? You're making me kind of uncomfortable dude...
iranz said:
hi woodrube.. thanks for the info. i needed it. its just that this guy in the past has been coming to past threads and trolling and harassing not just me but other ppl. this is the justifiable reason..
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Are you following me around? Keeping a journal on me or something? I'm hard on people because they have 0 posts and make new threads on topics that have multiple threads each less than a few days old..
While I may be a **** I also try to be helpful at the same time and not have a piss poor attitude to the people who are trying to help.
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Report me for what? And why would I PM you? You're making me kind of uncomfortable dude...
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i'm WARNING you for the last time.. stop following me and harassing me.. i've already talked to 2 mods about you and theyre reviewing your posts and membership in this forum.... DO NOT respond to ANY of my threads or posts from now on !!!

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