Hey
Lets hear some user expirences. What has been the best radio for you?
PLEASE state where you are from and (this is optional) what mobile provider you have. This is VERY important to see which is better or/and worst for you.
State things like battery life, signal, 3G speeds, etc....
I want to point out (since there are very rude people in this thread) that what works for one person, may not work for you, even if you are in the same city on the same provider. There are a lot of factors that go into radio experiences.
That being said, DO NOT POST HERE SAYING THIS IS USELESS. If you dont agree with the thread, simply dont enter it and do not post. From now on, Im going to start reporting posts that just whine and ***** about the thread and say nothing on topic. If you have nothing helpful to say, dont say anything at all
If you want to check them out and test/switch them out, they are located at: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=970809&highlight=radio
Thanks and good luck!
Not sure what you're trying to find out, but bear in mind that even if someone has the same carrier as you, your own experience with a specific radio might be a lot different from theirs due to the complex factors involved (e.g. geography, type of signal you're receiving, etc).
There is no "best" radio other than the one you find works best for you.
Sent from my Desire Z running CM7.
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Not sure what you're trying to find out, but bear in mind that even if someone has the same carrier as you, your own experience with a specific radio might be a lot different from theirs due to the complex factors involved (e.g. geography, type of signal you're receiving, etc).
There is no "best" radio other than the one you find works best for you.
Sent from my Desire Z running CM7.
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The reason I asked for location: Thats why, because it is one of the factors that makes it different.
If you do not agree with this thread, just leave and dont comment Simple as that. If you want to share your expirence than go on right ahead!
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I'm using 26.10.04.03_M. Almost all the time, I'm within range of HSPA+ network in city center, but sometimes I'm in the area with extermely weak 2G signal only. None of the radios was able to maintain stable mobile data connection in such conditions. The only difference I see is that with current radio, my phone connects to my school's wireless network a bit faster than with shipped one. But that's all, battery life is also similar.
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Great post. Thanks
been using the 26.13.04.19 about a now, ive tried both with and without changing the lib files. either way i havent found too much difference in speeds and battery life. truthfully i feel i was getting the same speeds on the 26.02.01.15 radio and the battery life was a bit better. where i live i get great reception overall, rarely do i find myself without h (4g) or 3g. this is the case with both of these radios, ill check back as i continue playing with different radios.
great idea for a post by the way, over time the poll may give insight to the best radio for our phones be it just a generic overview (as the best will vary from user to user)
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If you do not agree with this thread, just leave and dont comment Simple as that.
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Umm, no sorry, it doesn't work that way. If you don't want people to disagree with you, then the internet is not for you.
Besides, its not like stevie was being snippy or anything. Just politely stated the simple fact that the correct radio is largely related to your specific location and carrier (and there are quite arguably, the most important variables). He's pointing out a valid flaw in the main point of this thread and poll. Better for him to mentioned it, then for people to think that some poll is going to magically steer them to the "best" radio, which it is not.
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Umm, no sorry, it doesn't work that way. If you don't want people to disagree with you, then the internet is not for you.
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I told him (and you) if you dont agree (and/or seem to understand) the purpose of the thread, then you have no reason of being here.
I clearly stated:
PLEASE state where you are from and (this is optional) what mobile provider you have. This is VERY important to see which is better or/and worst for you.
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And you yourself said:
the correct radio is largely related to your specific location and carrier (and there are quite arguably, the most important variables).
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So again: If you are not intrested in saying nothing, dont post. Simple as that.
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I told him (and you) if you dont agree (and/or seem to understand) the purpose of the thread, then you have no reason of being here.
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So only people that agree with you get to post on your threads? So who made you king of this forum?
Besides, steviewevie knows 100 times more than you ever will about smartphones, and very helpful to these forums. So it would be advisable not to smartmouth off at people like him, just because he doesn't agree with you.
Canada on Rogers : Vision_Radio_12.62.60.27_26.13.04.19 seems the best for me speedwise and connection wise and OK for battery life. For the battery life, the stock radio from Bell(where I got the phone originally) was the best, but I forgot what was it's number.
redpoint73: While you might find the poll useless to you, it can be useful to others. Your posts in this thread though are 100% useless.
@kinwolf This has been addressed who knows how many times. This poll cannot and will not offer credible information, and that's due to the fact that radio results vary between users, whether they're on the same provider/geographical area or not.
Regardless, I'm not "against" this thread, but I simply don't see how it is going to help anyone.
Just my 2 cents.
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So only people that agree with you get to post on your threads?
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Yes. You are just ruining a thread, not giving anything useful towards it.
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Besides, steviewevie knows 100 times more than you ever will about smartphones, and very helpful to these forums. So it would be advisable not to smartmouth off at people like him, just because he doesn't agree with you.
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Stop brown nosing. I understand exactly what you and he put. Again, if you dont agree with the thread, simple dont post.
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Canada on Rogers : Vision_Radio_12.62.60.27_26.13.04.19 seems the best for me speedwise and connection wise and OK for battery life. For the battery life, the stock radio from Bell(where I got the phone originally) was the best, but I forgot what was it's number.
redpoint73: While you might find the poll useless to you, it can be useful to others. Your posts in this thread though are 100% useless.
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Thanks.
crestofawave said:
@kinwolf This has been addressed who knows how many times. This poll cannot and will not offer credible information, and that's due to the fact that radio results vary between users, whether they're on the same provider/geographical area or not.
Regardless, I'm not "against" this thread, but I simply don't see how it is going to help anyone.
Just my 2 cents.
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The bold part is the most important; If you are not intrested in this thread or dont see how it is useful, simply do not post. It is very easy and simple; As a matter of fact, to post or view the thread, you have to click a button. To ignore it, you dont have to do anything!
Updated first post.
with Vision_RADIO_12.28b.60.140e_26.03.02.26 i have some eco while calling
.30 tmo g2 running dz hboot in nor cal
P.s. responding to posts that dont 'agree' with you is just as useless as making a post to say 'thanks'
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Canada on Rogers : Vision_Radio_12.62.60.27_26.13.04.19 seems the best for me speedwise and connection wise and OK for battery life. For the battery life, the stock radio from Bell(where I got the phone originally) was the best, but I forgot what was it's number.
redpoint73: While you might find the poll useless to you, it can be useful to others. Your posts in this thread though are 100% useless.
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This post is a good example why this whole thread is fundamentally flawed. Saying your location is "Canada" is not specific enough. You need to get to the city level, location within the city, probably even the same cell tower. Even then, reception would still vary due to line of sight and distance to that particular tower. so you'd practically have to live in the same house, for the same radio to mean the same thing. So anecdotal information on what radio is "best" is completely worthless.
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Stop brown nosing. I understand exactly what you and he put. Again, if you dont agree with the thread, simple dont post.
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Paying respect where its due is not brown nosing. But someone on high of a horse as you wouldn't know anything about respect.
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Hey
I want to point out (since there are very rude people in this thread) that what works for one person, may not work for you, even if you are in the same city on the same provider. There are a lot of factors that go into radio experiences.
That being said, DO NOT POST HERE SAYING THIS IS USELESS. If you dont agree with the thread, simply dont enter it and do not post. From now on, Im going to start reporting posts that just whine and ***** about the thread and say nothing on topic. If you have nothing helpful to say, dont say anything at all
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You are completely over-reacting and being overly defensive. Nobody has been particularly rude. If you think so, you clearly haven't spent much time on XDA! Nobody said this thread was useless, either. But people have given constructive criticism why this thread is fundamentally flawed, and given that criticism pretty politely. You have a pretty sad opinion on what constitutes "whining and *****ing". If you want to report me, go ahead. I doubt any of the mods would buy it.
The main reasons myself and others call out the technical reason that there is no "best" radio, is because there is already a lot of misconception about this topic. And it needs to be called out, so that other users take this thread for what it is. You've revised your OP quite a bit along these lines. But only AFTER the alleged "*****ing and moaning". So I guess the criticism was constructive and useful after all, wasn't it?
I'll have to agree with redpoint73 and also add with the fact that this issue also has to do with the hardware aspect of the phone. You surely don't expect radio's to be identical photocopies of each other. So two phones at the same location with same ROM's and RADIO's can handle signals differently. If you add the location and carrier factors on top of that, there's no best radio, location wise or carrier wise.
And besides, this phone has been out for about TWO years. If there was some solution for this it would have already been covered.
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Re: HSPA Settings Change in Build.Prop
So I had watched this debate the other day .
Curiousity got the best of me...
I applied these settings and my 3g is not only waay faster...but also incredibley predictable and consistent...
I think you guys are being a little silly in saying this isnt true... A lot of people could benefit from this.
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So I had watched this debate the other day .
Curiousity got the best of me...
I applied these settings and my 3g is not only waay faster...but also incredibley predictable and consistent...
I think you guys are being a little silly in saying this isnt true... A lot of people could benefit from this.
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Can you provide a link to this debate and some information?
I believe this is the thread in question:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1681998
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I believe this is the thread in question:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1681998
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Yeah, sort of. Most of the posts were removed :/
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Yeah, sort of. Most of the posts were removed :/
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lol and apparently that guy is temp banned XD http://d.pr/i/5NPp
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lol and apparently that guy is temp banned XD http://d.pr/i/5NPp
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That's what someone was telling me but it has to be about something else, right?
I mean, the settings help a lot but there was some serious trolling going on anyway (weren't you one) That'd be pretty sad if the punishment for knowing you are right is a ban.
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That's what someone was telling me but it has to be about something else, right?
I mean, the settings help a lot but there was some serious trolling going on anyway (weren't you one) That'd be pretty sad if the punishment for knowing you are right is a ban.
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he wasnt banned for being right, he was banned for being an asshat.
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after applying the changes in build.prop and rebooting, my 3g speeds have dropped from about 860 kbps to 475 kbps, however, my 4g speeds increased from 6125 kbps to 11750 kbps. O_O
Still curious how and why ANYONE could think that editing 1: the build.prop which for most anything now is useless junk. It's main purpose is to serve as a file that programs can read in order to know the properties of the device. That's it. 2: Editing HSPA settings for a CDMA device which doesn't use HSPA or anything like it. Two completely different techs.
If one happens to obtain 'higher' speeds by editing a file that governs absolutely nothing when it comes to the radio - it's called circumstantial. That being, the higher speeds are not a result of the edits you made but of the situation and would have resulted regardless of the edits being made. eg. you rebooted your phone after making the edits. The re-registering on the nearest tower caused the higher speeds - not the edits.
The build.prop is not a setting file. It's not read by the system in order to set any parameters. Only by apps or shared by the system in order for an app or website to know the properties of the device like resolution, model, brand, version, is it CDMA or GSM, 3G or 4G capable, what class of 3G/4G, and so on.
This topic is old and tired. It really is. It's time to lock another thread or delete it entirely.
Placebo effect of course.
so let me get this straight:
Dude provides useful information. He goes about it by stating facts, and the way he comes across (mind you this is the internet) is of being an asshat.
He's then insulted saying he's a complete n00b asshat.
He proves (through countless edits) his results, and some people take interest.
Some curious individuals apply his settings and poof! not only is he right on some levels of 3g, but on 4g as well.
And you laugh and say not only is it circumstantial, but it's also a placebo effect...EVEN THOUGH SPEED TESTS PROVE OTHERWISE.
interesting bunch of individuals you are.
I'm going to lock this one as I can see infractions will more than likely be handed out.
The thread will still be here (as the other one is) if you want to try it for yourself.
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So I had watched this debate the other day .
Curiousity got the best of me...
I applied these settings and my 3g is not only waay faster...but also incredibley predictable and consistent...
I think you guys are being a little silly in saying this isnt true... A lot of people could benefit from this.
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That's what someone was telling me but it has to be about something else, right?
I mean, the settings help a lot but there was some serious trolling going on anyway (weren't you one) That'd be pretty sad if the punishment for knowing you are right is a ban.
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Interesting considering you two are the exact same person. Creating a thread to copy your other thread.... Really?
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he wasnt banned for being right, he was banned for being an asshat.
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This.
KCRic said:
Still curious how and why ANYONE could think that editing 1: the build.prop which for most anything now is useless junk. It's main purpose is to serve as a file that programs can read in order to know the properties of the device. That's it. 2: Editing HSPA settings for a CDMA device which doesn't use HSPA or anything like it. Two completely different techs.
If one happens to obtain 'higher' speeds by editing a file that governs absolutely nothing when it comes to the radio - it's called circumstantial. That being, the higher speeds are not a result of the edits you made but of the situation and would have resulted regardless of the edits being made. eg. you rebooted your phone after making the edits. The re-registering on the nearest tower caused the higher speeds - not the edits.
The build.prop is not a setting file. It's not read by the system in order to set any parameters. Only by apps or shared by the system in order for an app or website to know the properties of the device like resolution, model, brand, version, is it CDMA or GSM, 3G or 4G capable, what class of 3G/4G, and so on.
This topic is old and tired. It really is. It's time to lock another thread or delete it entirely.
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And this.
Can someone tell what was the default setting on the Turn on SMS over IMS? Should that feature be on or off and what does it do in general thanks?
You don't have to start another thread just because your first one didn't get answered...
Swiftkey'ed on my CM9 Galaxy Nexus
Thanks for the info that helped alot.
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Thanks for the info that helped alot.
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OP, it's a pain asking on message boards,people get all defensive when they don't know the answer!
The only semi-useful info I could find was at code.google.com - (I'm a new user, can't post URL's)
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You don't have to start another thread just because your first one didn't get answered...
Swiftkey'ed on my CM9 Galaxy Nexus
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This whole site has a great deal of unhelpful, self righteous twats. Top it off with the stupid posting restrictions for new users and you have a pretty damn unfriendly place for noobs. I should have known from the snarky video I had to watch just to join that this was an exclusive Android guru only place. It sucks that people come here to chat and get help with issues and this is the kind of responses they get. Good job. :thumbdown:
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Can someone tell what was the default setting on the Turn on SMS over IMS? Should that feature be on or off and what does it do in general thanks?
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The default setting is off.
IMS = IP Multimedia Subsystem
IP = Internet Protocol
SIP = Session Initiation Protocol
With setting off, SMS is sent/received over 1x circuit switched connection
With setting on, SMS is supposedly sent/received over a SIP session over IP (e.g. LTE)
I'm not sure if one is better than the other or what advantages/disadvantages either would have.
Is IMS even functional? I know it will be for VoLTE, but what about now?
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This whole site has a great deal of unhelpful, self righteous twats. Top it off with the stupid posting restrictions for new users and you have a pretty damn unfriendly place for noobs. I should have known from the snarky video I had to watch just to join that this was an exclusive Android guru only place. It sucks that people come here to chat and get help with issues and this is the kind of responses they get. Good job. :thumbdown:
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I 100% agree with this.
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You don't have to start another thread just because your first one didn't get answered...
Swiftkey'ed on my CM9 Galaxy Nexus
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Look at this dudes signature, you can tell he's a corn ball.
Anyway, I was curious about this too because sms over ims is supposed to be available when volte launches, which hasn't yet (volte is voice and sms coming over LTE). Right now only data comes over LTE. Voice is still 1x with some other convoluted ehrpd stuff.
Anyhow, any luck with this? Did you give it a try? I imagine your data usage would go up since text would go against your data usage.
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This whole site has a great deal of unhelpful, self righteous twats. Top it off with the stupid posting restrictions for new users and you have a pretty damn unfriendly place for noobs. I should have known from the snarky video I had to watch just to join that this was an exclusive Android guru only place. It sucks that people come here to chat and get help with issues and this is the kind of responses they get. Good job. :thumbdown:
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Finally, someone whom sees it how I do. It's sad to see that this still happens. Every since the BB days and mIRC chat all the way up until now it continues. Forums are meant to help the "Noob" or "Lam3r" if any of you are old enough to remember that term. If you want to help then great, but if not then I would love for these fat, anti-social dorks to do something other than harass and discourage the young ones (and the older) who wish to learn.
If everyone could follow that philosophy as a general rule. Kind of like Open Source software, it's done for a cause, something greater than one's self. If forum users (not naming any in particular) would open their minds and allow a bit of tolerance for the unknowing rather than providing links to this, this and this (which sometimes is the easiest way to resolve and issue or answer a question). But god forbid if someone doesn't use the search feature.
I understand that answering the same questions over and over again is annoying. But rather than push that person off with another link or trolling comment just think back to when you were that "Lam3r" or that "N00b" noone wanted to help back in the 90's and how frustrating it was.
None of us started out this life knowing anything about software development, computers and networking, telecommunications, etc. But when a forum is created, watch out....everyone is an expert and "you are an idiot" if you have a simple question to ask. N00b's, don't let these loser's discourage you. Keep looking for your answers on XDA and you will find someone willing to help. There are tons of super cool members here.
And again, I'm with you 100% Xfanatic....
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Finally, someone whom sees it how I do. It's sad to see that this still happens. Every since the BB days and mIRC chat all the way up until now it continues. Forums are meant to help the "Noob" or "Lam3r" if any of you are old enough to remember that term. If you want to help then great, but if not then I would love for these fat, anti-social dorks to do something other than harass and discourage the young ones (and the older) who wish to learn.
If everyone could follow that philosophy as a general rule. Kind of like Open Source software, it's done for a cause, something greater than one's self. If forum users (not naming any in particular) would open their minds and allow a bit of tolerance for the unknowing rather than providing links to this, this and this (which sometimes is the easiest way to resolve and issue or answer a question). But god forbid if someone doesn't use the search feature.
I understand that answering the same questions over and over again is annoying. But rather than push that person off with another link or trolling comment just think back to when you were that "Lam3r" or that "N00b" noone wanted to help back in the 90's and how frustrating it was.
None of us started out this life knowing anything about software development, computers and networking, telecommunications, etc. But when a forum is created, watch out....everyone is an expert and "you are an idiot" if you have a simple question to ask. N00b's, don't let these loser's discourage you. Keep looking for your answers on XDA and you will find someone willing to help. There are tons of super cool members here.
And again, I'm with you 100% Xfanatic....
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I agree with you about agreeing with Xfanatic...and Lam3rs should not get discouraged because there really are good people out there!
On the topic - this reminds me of the setting in older phones (maybe began with the first few colour phones?) of using GPRS for SMS. Never really understood if it had any advantage/disadvantage and it was disabled by default. I didnt see any change in performance if it was on or off, and also couldn't see a notable change in data usage but it was harder to track back then...
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I agree with you about agreeing with Xfanatic...and Lam3rs should not get discouraged because there really are good people out there!
On the topic - this reminds me of the setting in older phones (maybe began with the first few colour phones?) of using GPRS for SMS. Never really understood if it had any advantage/disadvantage and it was disabled by default. I didnt see any change in performance if it was on or off, and also couldn't see a notable change in data usage but it was harder to track back then...
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How old are the phones you're referring to?
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How old are the phones you're referring to?
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Before phones were smart.
Haha! some like the P900 I still have a lot of respect for and it was probably as smart as todays phones with less gimmick
I was talking about phones from around 2002 or 2003...Nokia 7250i for example
This user's guide I found for the phone has the setting listed as one of the features - http://dl.owneriq.net/4/41149a6d-d289-4d77-b932-7006a2d469d8.pdf
IMS
wikipedia is your friend ref: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_Multimedia_Subsystem .. option remains relevant for new phones ie Nexus 4 etc. Sometimes registration is required to enable.
Rob
T-mobile definitely utilizes LTE(SIP - see above for definition) for sending texts. Not sure about other carriers.
Edit: I just tested on and off with or without registration, and really don't experience any noticeable difference regardless of how it's set. None the less, its apparently active on T-Mobile network.
Really?
You guys are all such a big help for people aren't you. this comes up in the top of a lot of SMS/IMS search results and you people are arguing over internet politics. juts fricken help people or move along okay? I gave up on trying to find my answer in this muck!
Cry babys
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You guys are all such a big help for people aren't you. this comes up in the top of a lot of SMS/IMS search results and you people are arguing over internet politics. juts fricken help people or move along okay? I gave up on trying to find my answer in this muck!
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AGREE!
I wish I found my answer in this thread as I found during my friend Google search.
Instead I wasted my time reading blah blah blah Cry Babys blah!
I cant get 4g on my sony xperia m2 and when i got to network operators no 4g shows up please help
Just switched from Verizon a few days ago. I had a note 3 there as well. I am now on my fourth phone. The first three were black Note 3s and the GPS was unusable almost non functional. Got a white one from a new shipment as my fourth and while it is weak compared to our other phones, it is accurate enough to get around. I just want to make sure everyone thinks to check GPS before their return period is up as there is a bad batch out there. My first three even comprised of phones from two different phones. Good luck!
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Meant to say comprised of phones from two different stores. XDA premium won't let me edit. Sorry.
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A Samsung device... with a bad GPS? NEVER!
Ummm... its pretty much common knowledge by now that Samsung devices have finicky GPSes. I've had a Captivate, an S3, and an S4. GPS issues with all of them that took some tweaking to figure out.
Unfortunately, its not a hardware issue. Its a Samsung issue, most likely relating to baseband programming.
One thing that might fix it is forcing your phone to use HSPA only when you're using your GPS. On previous Samsung phones, network switching would kill the GPS every time so it doesn't seem far-fetched to think they still haven't fixed it now.
I just got my Note 3 last Friday so like 5 days ago. I have no issues with my GPS, it locks in about 8 seconds. I did have to turn on both GPS and Google location settings in Maps settings and it was fine. I don't use Maps often so i turn off Google location settings until i need them.
My GPS is was pretty weak too. It would take about a minute to get a lock, and when navigating down a freeway it would usually think I'm on the service drive next to it and constantly tell me to turn, etc... Strangely after flashing Willl03s cm11 my GPS locks right away and navigation is dead nuts.
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I have no problems got my note 3 in oct.
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Got mine launch day along with my Girl and both have flawless GPS
Official CM11 Powered SM-N900T
You're lucky. My HTC and Motorola phones had much better GPS. And I've had Samsung phones since the Moment. I'm willing to accept these shortcomings to have a device that is far superior in just about every other aspect.
It might be software issue or a bad app. I told op in his other thread the steps to take. Never heard back.
TWEAKED 1.0 NOTE 3
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A Samsung device... with a bad GPS? NEVER!
Ummm... its pretty much common knowledge by now that Samsung devices have finicky GPSes. I've had a Captivate, an S3, and an S4. GPS issues with all of them that took some tweaking to figure out.
Unfortunately, its not a hardware issue. Its a Samsung issue, most likely relating to baseband programming.
One thing that might fix it is forcing your phone to use HSPA only when you're using your GPS. On previous Samsung phones, network switching would kill the GPS every time so it doesn't seem far-fetched to think they still haven't fixed it now.
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Ummm... you are right that it is common knowledge, but unfortunately finicky doesn't equate to non-functional. Just trying to prevent people from ending up with a phone that has a useless feature. I now have a proper "finicky" Samsung GPS on my fourth phone.
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It might be software issue or a bad app. I told op in his other thread the steps to take. Never heard back.
TWEAKED 1.0 NOTE 3
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Did everything you said, on several phones. I had mentioned that, you may have overlooked it. These were problems I was having on out of the box phones, so roms and rooting at that point were irrelevant.
These phones tend to turn the actually GPS on for battery. Took me a while to figure it out. Make sure that us actually on then try again. Mine was fine to start then a little while ago it had issues. Turns out the GPS was off. All that is on is Google location with WiFi.
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Gordon Ramsay said:
Ummm... you are right that it is common knowledge, but unfortunately finicky doesn't equate to non-functional. Just trying to prevent people from ending up with a phone that has a useless feature. I now have a proper "finicky" Samsung GPS on my fourth phone.
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If it was a useless feature, there would be a huge uproar about it all over XDA.
Generally when someone goes on the sarcastic defensive, it means they know they did something wrong that they didn't do on their "working" phone. Just saying.
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If it was a useless feature, there would be a huge uproar about it all over XDA.
Generally when someone goes on the sarcastic defensive, it means they know they did something wrong that they didn't do on their "working" phone. Just saying.
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Are you serious right now? I am not an idiot when it comes to android phones. I have had many. I also am familiar with Samsung and GPS issues. I had an experience where 3 phones functioned as if they had no GPS antenna what so ever. I cleared GPS data, I downloaded the assistance data. I tried the NTP trick. Obviously I know it is not a common problem which is why I thought there was a possibility that there is a bad batch floating around out there. If you are so bored and aggitated that you feel the need to give me sarcastic condescending responses in response to me trying to simply be helpful, then I feel that speaks for itself. Next time if I feel I have something helpful to contribute I guess I will just keep it to myself. Asking people to check their GPS in the timespan of 14 days...how dare me. Sorry XDA
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Are you serious right now? I am not an idiot when it comes to android phones. I have had many. I also am familiar with Samsung and GPS issues. I had an experience where 3 phones functioned as if they had no GPS antenna what so ever. I cleared GPS data, I downloaded the assistance data. I tried the NTP trick. Obviously I know it is not a common problem which is why I thought there was a possibility that there is a bad batch floating around out there. If you are so bored and aggitated that you feel the need to give me sarcastic condescending responses in response to me trying to simply be helpful, then I feel that speaks for itself. Next time if I feel I have something helpful to contribute I guess I will just keep it to myself. Asking people to check their GPS in the timespan of 14 days...how dare me. Sorry XDA
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Sarcasm gets sarcasm. Can't take the heat? Get out of the sun.
You didn't specify any specifics as to what you tried in your first post and you've had cheeky responses to everyone else, what did you expect we were going to do, give you a shiny medal?
All of this that you just posted should have been in your first post. Your first post basically tells anyone who's having any GPS issue to return their phone but outlines nothing about what you did to attempt to fix it. Don't you think that's just a little bit important to put troubleshooting steps in a post when you're making a statement that there is a bad batch going around?
It isn't rocket science.
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Sarcasm gets sarcasm. Can't take the heat? Get out of the sun.
You didn't specify any specifics as to what you tried in your first post and you've had cheeky responses to everyone else, what did you expect we were going to do, give you a shiny medal?
All of this that you just posted should have been in your first post. Your first post basically tells anyone who's having any GPS issue to return their phone but outlines nothing about what you did to attempt to fix it. Don't you think that's just a little bit important to put troubleshooting steps in a post when you're making a statement that there is a bad batch going around?
It isn't rocket science.
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Wow you're a rude douche. Are you always that big of an a-hole to people who are just trying to be helpful? Lose the attitude man, it's not like his post is that big of an inconvenience to you.
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Sarcasm gets sarcasm. Can't take the heat? Get out of the sun.
You didn't specify any specifics as to what you tried in your first post and you've had cheeky responses to everyone else, what did you expect we were going to do, give you a shiny medal?
All of this that you just posted should have been in your first post. Your first post basically tells anyone who's having any GPS issue to return their phone but outlines nothing about what you did to attempt to fix it. Don't you think that's just a little bit important to put troubleshooting steps in a post when you're making a statement that there is a bad batch going around?
It isn't rocket science.
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Go back and read your first response to this post and then talk about cheeky.
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Go back and read your first response to this post and then talk about cheeky.
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I think I stated why I was being cheeky in my last post. The information that you put in your previous post should have been in the first one. Since it wasn't, it was logical to assume that you didn't know what you were doing. I wouldn't have said anything if you didn't turn around and have another cheeky quote to someone else which you also apparently thought deserved a second post all of its own.
There would have been no cheeky responses if you had been up front with all of the information in your original post.
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Wow you're a rude douche. Are you always that big of an a-hole to people who are just trying to be helpful? Lose the attitude man, it's not like his post is that big of an inconvenience to you.
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See the above. There really ought to be a school for how to formulate one's original post when starting a new thread with a test that you have to pass before you can ever post. If everyone posted threads saying that people should return a device based on issues they were having but with no details as to what specifically makes that device faulty, we would have people returning devices in droves for no good reason whatsoever. Don't attack me for doing what most others want to do or have done in the past and just given up on.
He didn't say to return the phone, he was simply saying to make sure the GPS worked okay before the 14 day return window was up. Really no harm in it, a better course of action on your part would have been to simply clarify some things that OP should have included in your first response instead of being a douche. Might as well close this thread OP since nobody can try to be helpful without getting flamed.
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Well let's just go ahead and go through all the points that your elitist mind has presented here. I create a post indicating that I had 3 bad GPS's, I suggested that everyone check theirs within the 14 day return period (completely reasonable and a nice reminder even if there isn't any concern of bad gps phones floating around). This is how you responded.
You: A Samsung device... with a bad GPS? NEVER!
Yes we all know Samsung's have quirky GPS, sarcasm at this point was already inappropriate and rude considering I was only offering a helpful suggestion.
You: Ummm... its pretty much common knowledge by now that Samsung devices have finicky GPSes. I've had a Captivate, an S3, and an S4. GPS issues with all of them that took some tweaking to figure out.
Assuming I am stupid and all problems I am having our user generated (even if they were, no reason for this, it never hurts to check the basic functionality of your device before your return period). Also rude and inappropriate.
I then respond to being attacked for no reason with an Ummm... of my own. Completely justified.
You: If it was a useless feature, there would be a huge uproar about it all over XDA. Generally when someone goes on the sarcastic defensive, it means they know they did something wrong that they didn't do on their "working" phone. Just saying.
Assuming again I am stupid and only providing a helpful tip for people as some sort of method for making up for stupidity (What did I do to deserve this?) This is also you assuming that there is no such thing as defective phones that aren't widespread in nature (also wrong and proven to be many times)
At this point I try to defend myself again and explain I am not an idiot and your responses to me trying to be helpful are rude and inappropriate.
You: Sarcasm gets sarcasm. Can't take the heat? Get out of the sun.
Makes no sense, since you were the first to start in with the sarcasm, and can't take the heat? XDA is not the wild wild west and you are not some edgy sheriff patrolling the dusty streets for posts that don't have all the information you think they should. This is a forum about a smart phone... get real.
You: You didn't specify any specifics as to what you tried in your first post and you've had cheeky responses to everyone else, what did you expect we were going to do, give you a shiny medal?
This is XDA, not Samsung support forums, not T-Mobile support forums, not Android Central. If you know how to root your phone then you should know how to properly check for a functioning GPS. My post was targeted at the same audience as XDA as a whole is targeted towards. My post was straight to the point and indicated my experience and general advice to check functionality within your return period. I am not here to educate on the specifics of troubleshooting a GPS. There are lots of other posts for that, and if I had, I have a suspicion that the big bad sheriff would be in town again to tell me I was re posting something. I also never indicated that I deserved any kind of credit for posting this. All I had was the bare minimum expectation that some condescending jerk wouldn't give me **** for doing nothing but trying to be helpful. My only "cheeky" response was towards you, no one else.
You: It isn't rocket science.
You're right, it's not.
You: If everyone posted threads saying that people should return a device based on issues they were having but with no details as to what specifically makes that device faulty, we would have people returning devices in droves for no good reason whatsoever.
Never advised anyone to return it, I said to check your GPS within your return period on the off chance there are more than a few defective units.
Thanks for ruining this thread and also being a cancer to this community by deterring others from providing helpful information. Perhaps the only solution for you would be to have XDA run every post by you before allowing it's publication. As someone else indicated, if your reasons for flaming me were truly out of concern for the content of my posts, your first objective would have been to add the information you felt was missed.
I'm having issues with a Samsung Galaxy S2 T989 where every time I place the phone on speaker, the call becomes choppy and blanks out completely at times, sounding as if I had no signal whatsoever. This started out with the stock rom so I decided to root it. I went from ICS to JB on Cyanogenmod. I flashed a newer radio because it would otherwise not let me flash anything. I tried flashing UVMC6 and it did not improve it. I then flashed UVMB1 (the 4G Blaze radio) and it still does the same thing. Call quality over the ear piece is good, but it all goes out the window when I use speakerphone.
I checked off the box on "Noise Suppression" and it doesn't do anything at all. The sound is still choppy over speakerphone. I've searched up on the forum, and so far the threads that come up are from 2012 or early 2013, but I assume that T-Mobile has made new radio/baseband settings since then.
My question is, what is the most stable radio/baseband to use on the T989 to get rid of the speakerphone problem, or is this problem a design flaw since the speaker is near the microphone?
All help is appreciated.
Wrong forum, belongs here. I've asked mods to move your thread, sit tight until they do.
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Wrong forum, belongs here. I've asked mods to move your thread, sit tight until they do.
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I realized that after I posted it, but didn't know how to delete it.
Thanks for the request.
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Best "anything" is based on your own personal preference/phone/area/setup. I recommend you try each for a day and see what is best for your phone and area.
There are only 2 radios that work on jelly bean...the newest T-Mobile one and the telus one. That's it.
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Also, some custom ROMs could have noise issues. You have to read through their threads to see. Or post in their threads.
Stock jelly bean should be flawless if thats what you want. Or a 4.1.2 touch wiz based ROM.
Good luck!
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I'm using CM 10.2 stable (4.3 JB) on my T989 Koodo. Getting the same speakerphone choppiness, and the same when using a bluetooth device.
Any luck finding a good stable radio package?
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I'm using CM 10.2 stable (4.3 JB) on my T989 Koodo. Getting the same speakerphone choppiness, and the same when using a bluetooth device.
Any luck finding a good stable radio package?
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Again.. There are only 2 radios that work on anything jelly bean or higher. T-Mobile or telus's newest. No other options. So all you can do is try other ROMs.
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Again.. There are only 2 radios that work on anything jelly bean or higher. T-Mobile or telus's newest. No other options. So all you can do is try other ROMs.
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Thanks for your very short, almost arrogant, half of an answer. We are here to help each other and by doing so teaching us something that someone taught you at one time.
I se that you have said in two different posts that there are only two that will work in a build that new but, in both posts you have neglected to tell which two those are. You would think that if one was tryingto be helpful instead of posting to be an ass and belittle a person who doesn't know as much as you, that you would be kind enough to have those two versions listed in the two very informative posts you spent so much time writing.
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Thanks for your very short, almost arrogant, half of an answer. We are here to help each other and by doing so teaching us something that someone taught you at one time.
I se that you have said in two different posts that there are only two that will work in a build that new but, in both posts you have neglected to tell which two those are. You would think that if one was tryingto be helpful instead of posting to be an ass and belittle a person who doesn't know as much as you, that you would be kind enough to have those two versions listed in the two very informative posts you spent so much time writing.
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Here you go. I searched for you and/or anyone and found this.....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1895400
First 2 radios in the list in the opening post. Apparently the mirror links are the ones to use.
Without scolding people for not searching like many will do, or giving them attitude, I like to encourage people to search for things... without a big long lecture. I'm sorry if that didn't sit well with you.
I gave a quick and precise answer. Possibly assuming most know what the 2 radios are.... it's been a long time this way on 4.1.2 or anything above. My bad.
Take care.
I appreciate the response and the link and the apology. I wasn't looking for either of those from you though. I was merely reading different posts and replies and it amazes me how lazy or just not driven to learn and read most of the new, and not so new , members are about about searches to find what they are looking for. It does get to be time consuming for some searches and some don't even try.
On the other side of the coin,it does get old reading questions that are answered in stickies or that one sees two or three times a week being asked throughout the site.
But, as a member who isn't too far from still being a noob but, has enough time in to see both sides of the fence , there is and always has been an almost elitist, ego among members who do know more than most. It can be intimidating to ask for help because of the way they get replies. Some people k ow nothing about cell phones that come here looking for help and then get berrated for posting in the room, or not knowing what OS or kernel is installed on their device.
I just wanted to remind you that you were probably one of those guys for some time and that posting a quip that doesn't do anything to help or guide the OP to the right answer. It just adds to the stress he or she is under because their device is not working right and they don't to feel stupid for not k owing something. We all know that feeling and it sucks.
I hope he got the links and one of them works. Thanks for posting the links and what you said. We're allhere for one basic goal. To learn and teach. Let's keep to that course on the ship were sailing on XDA
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I appreciate the response and the link and the apology. I wasn't looking for either of those from you though. I was merely reading different posts and replies and it amazes me how lazy or just not driven to learn and read most of the new, and not so new , members are about about searches to find what they are looking for. It does get to be time consuming for some searches and some don't even try.
On the other side of the coin,it does get old reading questions that are answered in stickies or that one sees two or three times a week being asked throughout the site.
But, as a member who isn't too far from still being a noob but, has enough time in to see both sides of the fence , there is and always has been an almost elitist, ego among members who do know more than most. It can be intimidating to ask for help because of the way they get replies. Some people k ow nothing about cell phones that come here looking for help and then get berrated for posting in the room, or not knowing what OS or kernel is installed on their device.
I just wanted to remind you that you were probably one of those guys for some time and that posting a quip that doesn't do anything to help or guide the OP to the right answer. It just adds to the stress he or she is under because their device is not working right and they don't to feel stupid for not k owing something. We all know that feeling and it sucks.
I hope he got the links and one of them works. Thanks for posting the links and what you said. We're allhere for one basic goal. To learn and teach. Let's keep to that course on the ship were sailing on XDA
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You're entitled to your opinion. Many would have found my original reply more than good enough. As many have in the past. Some maybe not. Remember tho, I don't work for XDA, I'm not paid to help anyone. I'm entitled to say or not say whatever I'd like. (Within XDA rules of course) As are you.
I'm sorry my original reply didn't contain enough info for you personally.....
But some of your accusations are rather insulting.... You don't get a green name on XDA being the type of person you have accused me of being. Yes many around are exactly like you describe..... I am not.
And I'm not here to take part in arguments either.
So let's agree to disagree. And leave it at that.
And keep in mind, blasting people for not helping "enough" or in the way you hoped for will probably get even less help and just more arguments.
Anyway, take care.
Hi, i just bought an emergency fone, htc one m8 - well anyway i hate the stock of it, just duznt seem normal aye - as the title implies i wanna know what roms are so stable that everything actually works without having to read through thousands of pages of bull**** just ta find an answer, and dont say to me that this questions been asked before, just answer the question aye - any recommends? i just want simple ****
M4elstr0m said:
Hi, i just bought an emergency fone, htc one m8 - well anyway i hate the stock of it, just duznt seem normal aye - as the title implies i wanna know what roms are so stable that everything actually works without having to read through thousands of pages of bull**** just ta find an answer, and dont say to me that this questions been asked before, just answer the question aye - any recommends? i just want simple ****
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If this is an emergency phone, and if everything works (no bugs), I highly recommend you don't mess with it. Keep it stock.
Keeping it stock is the best way to ensure that it will work appropriately in an emergency, which is the reason you purchased it.
You haven't been specific to what "everything works" means. Everything works just fine on the stock ROM. If you are having specific issues, name them, and maybe someone can advise you more properly.
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i wanna know what roms are so stable that everything actually works without having to read through thousands of pages of bull**** just ta find an answer,
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So what exactly constitutes "bullsh_t"??? I would suggest you tread carefully before coming onto a forum and flinging around borderline insults to all the valuable information contained here. XDA us a wealth of information, for those patient enough to read and learn. Your comment makes you sound entitled, and too lazy to do that. In the end, this is just another n00b thread asking the cringe-worthy question "What is the best ROM?" Completely contrary to the whole point of XDA.
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If this is an emergency phone, and if everything works (no bugs), I highly recommend you don't mess with it. Keep it stock.
Keeping it stock is the best way to ensure that it will work appropriately in an emergency, which is the reason you purchased it.
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thats not quite the reason i bought the fone - i dropped my old fone and its straight broke! so emergency meaning i needed a fone quick! but yep, i get what you mean, cheers and thanks
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You haven't been specific to what "everything works" means. Everything works just fine on the stock ROM. If you are having specific issues, name them, and maybe someone can advise you more properly..
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let me reiterate ... i hate the stock of it, so many things i just dont use and probably would never use either are loaded in the background - sense, car, dot thing ... yep ... nup!
i bought a case for it and wondered why it would keep blacking out the screen when id set it sideways watching a vid - background things that id never use - the dot thing!
rooting the device ... 165 apps being optimized? thats a lot of apps for stock! and people wonder why ther battery dont last but then a noob would never know
now what i mean by everything is - digging through thread after thread i read about sim card not being detected, camera not working, imei's going missing, and then theres this thing called s-on and it seems that i cant change that now without paying for it...
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So what exactly constitutes "bullsh_t"??? I would suggest you tread carefully before coming onto a forum and flinging around borderline insults to all the valuable information contained here. XDA us a wealth of information, for those patient enough to read and learn. Your comment makes you sound entitled, and too lazy to do that.
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hey dont get me wrong, i love xda and for sure there's great information here - what bothered me and prompted me to write this on such manner was i saw a guy ask along the lines of the best rom and then sum prick comes and tells him this questions been asked before and then pretty much proceeds ta tell him ta **** off, no suggestions, no help, just get the **** on ...
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In the end, this is just another n00b thread asking the cringe-worthy question "What is the best ROM?" Completely contrary to the whole point of XDA
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maybe cringey to you but i am a noob and i'd like ta know and if its contrary to xda to answer this question then how helpful is it?
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hey dont get me wrong, i love xda and for sure there's great information here - what bothered me and prompted me to write this on such manner was i saw a guy ask along the lines of the best rom and then sum prick comes and tells him this questions been asked before and then pretty much proceeds ta tell him ta **** off, no suggestions, no help, just get the **** on ...
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I don't think I like your attitude. Information that you don't want to read is "bullsh_t". And someone show tells the facts is "sum prick". You going to start calling me names too, if I tell you something you don't want to hear?
"Best ROM" is not a question that can be answered. You've already proven that point. Previous response suggested stock ROM. It's "best" for a lot of people. But it's not "best" for you. The "best" ROM is completely subjective. It is dependent on personal usage patters, preferences, etc. If you want a suggestion on a ROM, there are plenty of threads already discussing that.
XDA used to ban "best ROM" threads for the reason mentioned above. They now allow such threads. For no good reason, except pandering to lazy n00bs, and XDA jumped the shark on that note.